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big_caballito |
hey, how can i disable mobs per world? |
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big_caballito |
or is that even possible? |
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big_caballito |
oops wrong chan |
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n_to |
Hi everyone . I have a short question about translations. I'm atm reviewing german translations for mods and sometimes strings are missing. (both in the .tr files and in template.txt). |
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n_to |
Now the question: Is there a script for generating template.txt or are those files maintained manually? |
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n_to |
I searched through several wikis and I can't find an answer to this :( |
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n_to |
ah, I just stumble upon the dev-tool-page. this might help :) https://dev.minetest.net/Development_Tools |
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kingskid |
hi I just got a new lenovo desktop I installed linux Mint 20 on it but the software manger put me on minetest 5.0.1 how do I get the latist Mt? |
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MTDiscord |
<q333> compile it from source yourself |
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MTDiscord |
<q333> wget https://github.com/minetest/minetest/archive/5.4.0.tar.gz |
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kingskid |
Thanks MTDiscord |
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Bombo |
5.4.1 is the latest according to topic ;) |
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Bombo |
n_to: gut, i noticed that some translations are missing too :) |
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MiniontobyPI |
hi |
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tech_exorcist |
how can I see a list of blocks defined in a given namespace? |
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VanessaE |
iterate through minetest.registered_nodes{} using string.find() or string.match() to search for the namespace you want. |
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MiniontobyPI |
for what? |
13:42 |
tech_exorcist |
to see a list of the blocks defined in `default' |
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MiniontobyPI |
minetest.register_on_mods_loaded(function() |
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MiniontobyPI |
for key, value in pairs(minetest.registered_nodes) do |
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MiniontobyPI |
minetest.log(key) |
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MiniontobyPI |
end |
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MiniontobyPI |
end) |
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tech_exorcist |
thanks |
13:43 |
VanessaE |
noooo |
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MiniontobyPI |
I used that to get list of node drops |
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tech_exorcist |
<VanessaE> noooo | ? |
13:43 |
VanessaE |
well actually I guess that works too |
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MiniontobyPI |
and randomize them |
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MiniontobyPI |
btw yeah how to |
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MiniontobyPI |
local pos = player:get_pos() |
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MiniontobyPI |
local posst = minetest.pos_to_string(pos) |
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MiniontobyPI |
but then round it up to 1 decimal |
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MiniontobyPI |
im away |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Isolate library tables between sandbox and insecure env 623f0a8 https://git.io/JOEzZ (2021-04-18T14:06:42Z) |
14:09 |
MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: GLES fixes (#11205) 0077982 https://git.io/JOEzP (2021-04-18T14:07:13Z) |
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VanessaE |
uh uh. you devs need to rewrite Minetest. Linus Torvalds now says C++ is "a crap language" :) |
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VanessaE |
uh oh* |
14:18 |
sfan5 |
now? pretty sure he held that opinion for a long time |
14:18 |
VanessaE |
https://developers.slashdot.org/story/21/04/17/009241/linus-torvalds-says-rust-closer-for-linux-kernel-development-calls-c-a-crap-language |
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VanessaE |
I guess he's just all enamored with Rust :) |
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specing |
Both C and C++ are crap languages. The Ada programming language has been waiting since 1983 for people to care about software safety and is actually used where mistakes are very costly. it even has a gcc frontend => the compiler would stay the same. |
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Krock |
he already stated that years ago |
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VanessaE |
hm, well that's just slashdot being its usual behind-the-times source I suppose, then :) |
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celeron55 |
it shouldn't surprise anyone but C++ wasn't chosen because of it being or not being a crap language |
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celeron55 |
i just liked the library support |
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rubenwardy |
Torvalds said that one of the benefits of writing Git in C is keeping C++ programmers away |
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rubenwardy |
And yeah, that's usually the case. C++ is a bad language, but does have good library support |
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rubenwardy |
Minus the fact that dealing with libraries is painful |
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erlehmann |
there was this story about some guys inventing a gun that shoots forwards and backwards simultaneously. as they were disappointed with the number of killings and maimings resulting from it, they went on to invent C and unix. |
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erlehmann |
VanessaE everyone who gets bitten by a rustacean rewrites everything in rust i think |
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erlehmann |
like i have seen so many projects that were like "X but in rust" hihi |
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erlehmann |
(not X11, i mean X as a placeholder) |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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calcul0n |
maybe a good reason to love c++ is it keeps Torvalds away |
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VanessaE |
Krock: replied to your comment on my mapgen issue. |
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bodqhrohro |
erlehmann: I was bitten by haskellist once, and now I suffer because I can't simply recompile a tiny program for AArch64; probably I'll have to install the whole Cabal in Termux O_O |
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bodqhrohro |
It's gonna be much easier to rewrite the program in some better language. |
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erlehmann |
bodqhrohro i was once a developer like you, but then i took a POSIX sh script to the knee |
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erlehmann |
<calcul0n> maybe a good reason to love c++ is it keeps Torvalds away |
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erlehmann |
calcul0n, i question your evaluation skills, a bucket of manure would be able to do that with less complexity! |
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calcul0n |
:) |
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imi |
hi, for some reason in the latest dev I cannot chat. when I press T the console shows up but I cannot enter text. is that a known bug? seems like I cannot enter any text into any text field. I'm using 5.5-dev with irrlichtMT both of them upgraded to the latest |
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sfan5 |
OS? keyboard layout? any warning in the log? |
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sfan5 |
here's an existing report btw https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/11190#issuecomment-822036318 |
18:25 |
sfan5 |
and a patch you might want to try |
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imi |
sfan5: ubuntu 20.04 hungarian keyboard |
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imi |
437d01196 is known _NOT_ to have the issue |
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imi |
sfan5: I'll keep that patch in mind, someone suggested git bisect |
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sfan5 |
437d01196 is before text input changes so it "bypasses" that source of bugs |
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sfan5 |
it's pretty much clear which commit caused this (https://github.com/minetest/irrlicht/commit/3ef59028155ba4cab0f734aecb6bdfc2aa90cbf4) |
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imi |
ok then bisect isn't neccessary, is it? |
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imi |
should I try your patch then? |
19:20 |
sfan5 |
it's not mine but please do |
19:20 |
imi |
ok |
19:23 |
imi |
2 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file source/Irrlicht/CIrrDeviceLinux.cpp.rej |
19:27 |
sfan5 |
argh, line endings |
19:27 |
sfan5 |
here's a branch https://github.com/minetest/irrlicht/tree/imefix |
19:31 |
imi |
I started to fix by hand. should I just checkout this branch instead? |
19:34 |
sfan5 |
would save you time |
19:35 |
imi |
ok |
19:37 |
imi |
this bug is kind of probabilistic. sometimes it does not happen for hours sometimes it happens after just 5 minutes, so I'll let you know if I experience it again |
19:37 |
imi |
do I need to file a bug? |
19:39 |
sfan5 |
we already have one open which is likely the same one you're seeing |
19:43 |
imi |
no, this way I cannot chat at all |
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imi |
previously it worked sometimes for some amout of time |
19:44 |
sfan5 |
hm |
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sfan5 |
try the resetting to the "imefix1" commit |
19:44 |
imi |
by I cannot chat I mean I cannot enter any text into any text field |
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imi |
including the terminal |
19:45 |
imi |
can you help with that? I'm not a very big git wizard :( |
19:48 |
imi |
will git reset --soft HEAD~ do the trick? |
19:48 |
sfan5 |
git reset --hard HEAD^ |
19:48 |
sfan5 |
(then recompile obviously) |
19:49 |
imi |
obviously |
19:49 |
sfan5 |
just tested that patch here, works normally |
19:50 |
sfan5 |
you're on the latest minetest commit right? testing an older one is no use |
19:50 |
imi |
HEAD is now at 4719f3c Fix Android build (again) |
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imi |
minetest is 0077982fb |
19:51 |
sfan5 |
looks correct |
19:52 |
sfan5 |
except irrlicht is one commit too far, git reset origin/imefix^ --hard will directly take you to the correct commit |
19:53 |
imi |
I have a strong suspicion that I lose the ability to type the first time I move my mouse in-game with any text field and/or terminal open |
19:54 |
imi |
HEAD is now at e29e327 imefix1 |
19:54 |
sfan5 |
hold on, "Falling back to non-i18n input." does not appear in the log, does it? |
19:54 |
sfan5 |
because that'd make an important difference |
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imi |
unrelated: scrolling is very slow now in 5.5-dev (feels like 1 pixel per wheelclick) |
19:56 |
imi |
where whould I look for it? |
19:56 |
imi |
mt or irrlicht? git log? |
19:56 |
sfan5 |
mt when you run it |
19:57 |
imi |
on the console? or where? |
19:58 |
sfan5 |
in a terminal if you run it from one |
19:58 |
imi |
ok so stderr/stdout you mean |
19:58 |
sfan5 |
yea |
20:00 |
imi |
ok no instances of "i18n" in that output |
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imi |
anyhow now I can chat |
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sfan5 |
so you'd say the issue is now entirely gone? |
20:05 |
imi |
as far as I can tell. it used to be probabilistic, maybe I'll experience it in ~30 minutes, maybe not |
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imi |
ok so far my bug is gone |
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imi |
so I suspect it's solved |
21:05 |
sfan5 |
good to know, thank you for testing patiently |
21:06 |
imi |
ok thanks for the solution :) |
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