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IRC log for #minetest, 2021-02-16

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04:35 Noclip Floatlands are still marked as experimental. Are there currently any plans for changing them? How about the 5.4 update?
04:37 MTDiscord <s​rinivas> uh, last i checked, paramat was the mapgen guy, and he is on break
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09:01 sfan5 5.4.0 does not change anything about floatlands
09:02 Noclip Ok
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09:25 anuke[m] is it just me or is 5.4.0 player animation done clientside
09:27 Noclip Isn't all animation done clientside?
09:28 anuke[m] mods cant run stuff on the client in 5.3.X?
09:29 Noclip Yes (as far as I know).
09:29 anuke[m] so naturally youd have to send animation info from the server
09:30 Noclip animation info != animation
09:30 sfan5 the animation for the local player is client-side since at least 5.0.0
09:30 sfan5 the other players are handeled by the server
09:32 anuke[m] i have latest master running and player movement/rotation is a hell of a lot smoother than on some 5.4.0-dev thats a bit older
09:32 anuke[m] but it seems like something in builtin that changed
09:33 anuke[m] like when rotating camera in third person, rotation is immediate and not choppily catching up to the mouse
09:35 Noclip So you're now talking about the local player?
09:37 sfan5 I can assure you nothing about that changed in 5.4.0
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09:38 Noclip On my computer camera rotation in third person is immediate and completely smooth. (MT version 5.3.0)
09:39 Noclip I don't see anything like "choppily catching up" there.
09:40 anuke[m] yes
09:41 anuke[m] probably because im comparing 2 mods to about 50
09:42 Noclip That's possible.
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10:04 anuke[m] hmm
10:05 anuke[m] im comment out drawing code for some gui elements
10:05 anuke[m] a good 8ms of drawtime is added by simply having items in the inventory?
10:05 anuke[m] it isnt drawing anything
10:06 anuke[m] ok cool
10:07 anuke[m] i just gained 15 fps by commenting out ~6 lines in guiInventoryList
10:07 anuke[m] when the inventory is closed...
10:10 rubenwardy Oh that's fun
10:11 anuke[m] is it absolutely necessary to look up the inventory's list every frame in guiInventoryList
10:11 anuke[m] im thinking of caching it for a very minor boost
10:15 anuke[m] hold on
10:15 anuke[m] does backgroundimage actually use 4ms to draw
10:15 anuke[m] i mustve done something else theres no way
10:16 anuke[m] it does wow
10:22 rubenwardy Doubt Minetest uses smartpointers for lists. If the list is deleted, then there will be a segfault
10:23 rubenwardy Lists may also appear after showing the formspec
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17:05 hisforever Hi I play in creative mode how can I get mobs to quit atacking me?
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17:11 MTDiscord <o​neplustwo> kill the mobs
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17:13 hisforever thanks MIDiscorsd
17:16 delta23 disable mobs or just fly away from them?
17:17 delta23 what mod is it?
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17:34 Aggregator hi
17:35 MTDiscord <J​onathon> hi
17:35 Aggregator i have auth+players+world in posgres each one DB
17:35 Aggregator can this be merged to one database with all the tables inside or will it break something like conversion back to sqlite or another backend?
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19:21 MTDiscord <e​xe_virus> Hmmm, does anyone have a good irc app for android they recommend that has the relative quality of discord?
19:21 sfan5 best I can think is to join irc via matrix
19:21 sfan5 think of*
19:24 rubenwardy Matrix is nice.   I use Quassel, which is about half way
19:24 MTDiscord <B​uckarooBanzai> I use https://thelounge.chat/ but its server/web based, the web client is pretty good imo, even has push notifications
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19:36 MTDiscord <e​xe_virus> The lounge is closer to what Im looking for, I already have bridges for discord to irc, I'm just looking for a good mobile irc app
19:37 MTDiscord <e​xe_virus> Ahhh, never mind this requires a backend server, hence quassel
19:38 MTDiscord <e​xe_virus> Basically, I just want my name to actually come through on irc, does it?
19:38 rubenwardy matrix does that. If you register, you can remove the [m]
19:39 rubenwardy you can't do a lot of IRC advanced stuff, but you do appear as a user on IRC
19:39 rubenwardy it's not like Discord where all users appear as one
19:39 MTDiscord <e​xe_virus> No we're good, I just checked on the ice logs, <name> works
19:40 rubenwardy oh right
19:40 rubenwardy what did you think happened? Disembodied voices?
19:42 MTDiscord <e​xe_virus> I figured we all came through as <discord_user>
19:43 rubenwardy it's   <MTDiscord> <e​xe_virus> I figured we all came through as <discord_user>
19:44 MTDiscord <e​xe_virus> Yep, I read the logs, that's works. Sorry to bother this channel
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22:07 MTDiscord <W​arr1024> I've been using TheLounge but it's not as bullet proof as I'd like, and it lacks features I consider key, like the ability to customize notifications per-channel.  I've started using the Matrix bridge more.
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