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01:56 TMcSquared heyo all
01:57 MTDiscord <J​onathon> hiya
01:57 TMcSquared my old username was ThomasMonroe for those who remeber
01:57 TMcSquared hey @garywhite
02:00 TMcSquared wow its been a while since ive been on IRC
02:02 TMcSquared longerstaff13 whats up man?
02:02 gry welcome back :-)
02:02 longerstaff13 holy
02:02 longerstaff13 is that tre?
02:02 TMcSquared yeah its me
02:03 longerstaff13 dude! where ya been :D
02:03 TMcSquared need the password of Dogmios to verify?
02:03 TMcSquared working my butt off at my job lol
02:03 longerstaff13 oof lol
02:03 longerstaff13 be careful of thr covid
02:03 TMcSquared hey, im a manager now, so theres that
02:03 longerstaff13 the
02:05 TMcSquared what have you been up to?
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02:05 realthegooduser Hi. I have a question
02:05 TMcSquared that is great that you have a question.
02:06 realthegooduser it's about a mod I have and something went wrong (if this is for me)
02:07 MTDiscord <W​arr1024> Don't spoil it for everyone
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02:28 LoneWolfHT So far there are more statements than questions. Sounds like a pretty bad plot
02:29 TMcSquared heyo LoneWolfHT
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03:05 garywhite hello TMcSquared
03:08 garywhite sorry, was having dinner
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04:30 Emerald2 Wow TMcSquared's internet sucks.
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08:01 MiniontobyPI Hi
08:02 MiniontobyPI may i get help?
08:02 MiniontobyPI its with csm
08:03 MiniontobyPI my server yet got crashed
08:03 MiniontobyPI Bus error (core dumped)
08:07 MiniontobyPI https://pastebin.com/V4mg5KGp
08:07 MiniontobyPI it shows nothing
08:08 MiniontobyPI what wrong?
08:09 MiniontobyPI *it wont directly works, because some values i set but not in the paste*
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09:02 BuckarooBanzai !up pandorabox.io
09:02 MinetestBot pandorabox.io:30000 seems to be down (IPv6)
09:02 BuckarooBanzai !up test.pandorabox.io
09:02 MinetestBot test.pandorabox.io:30000 seems to be down (IPv4)
09:03 BuckarooBanzai yeah, right :P
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09:17 MiniontobyPI https://pastebin.com/V4mg5KGp
09:17 MiniontobyPI plz help me ^
09:19 BuckarooBanzai "radius 100" did you try it with less?
09:19 MiniontobyPI not yet
09:19 MiniontobyPI how much you recommend
09:19 BuckarooBanzai also: your _server_ crashed while using a csm? o_O
09:20 BuckarooBanzai try 10 or 20 idk
09:20 MiniontobyPI trying 10
09:23 BuckarooBanzai !ip [2a02:c207:2051:9958::1]
09:23 BuckarooBanzai !up [2a02:c207:2051:9958::1]
09:23 MinetestBot [[2a02:c207:2051:9958::1]]:30000 seems to be down (host did not resolve)
09:23 BuckarooBanzai !up 2a02:c207:2051:9958::1
09:23 MinetestBot [2a02:c207:2051:9958::1]:30000 seems to be down
09:24 BuckarooBanzai !up 95.111.231.234
09:24 MinetestBot 95.111.231.234:30000 is up (14ms)
09:24 * BuckarooBanzai is sorry for the noise
09:26 BuckarooBanzai !up 2a02:c207:2051:9958::1
09:26 MinetestBot [2a02:c207:2051:9958::1]:30000 seems to be down
09:29 MiniontobyPI not works
09:31 BuckarooBanzai MiniontobyPI: if you don't have a proper error-message just strip down the code until it works
09:34 MiniontobyPI noting shows up
09:46 MiniontobyPI oh
09:46 MiniontobyPI adv_csm:init.lua:152: attempt to concatenate local 'node_name' (a nil value)
09:46 MiniontobyPI stack traceback:
09:53 MiniontobyPI adv_csm:init.lua:152: attempt to concatenate local 'param' (a nil value)
09:53 MiniontobyPI hmmmm
09:58 MiniontobyPI fixed the param
09:58 MiniontobyPI working
10:06 Ingar funny how languages without pointers always have a NULL value
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15:27 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> languages without pointers?
15:27 big_caballito[m] like lua or python
15:28 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> Lua does not expose pointers, but that doesn't mean it has none. Tables, functions and threads are all stored by reference; userdata is more or less a pointer.
15:28 big_caballito[m] i guess most interpreted languages 🤔
15:29 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> as said, they do have pointers, just not naked pointers
15:29 big_caballito[m] true, but in those languages, you generally don't to worry about the pointers
15:30 big_caballito[m] have*
15:30 big_caballito[m] which is why they aren't exposed
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16:58 MTDiscord <e​xe_virus> Oh trust me I worry about them
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17:34 Brinso hi
17:36 Krock bye
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17:56 MinetestBot [git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Server: properly delete ServerMap on interrupted startups d287da1 https://git.io/Jt2IZ (2021-02-05T17:38:34Z)
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18:15 BuckarooBanzai (sorry again, i don't have an ipv6 setup at home)
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18:15 BuckarooBanzai nice :)
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18:16 BuckarooBanzai interesting: it works on ipv4 and 6 when i enable "ipv6_server = true" but there is a warning that it may not work on some systems (somehow)
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18:46 sfan5 there's a warning where?
19:14 MTDiscord <o​il_boi> Good day
19:21 MTDiscord <J​onathon> hello
19:30 Krock greetings
19:30 heavygale howdy
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19:33 MTDiscord <o​il_boi> How's it hanging?
19:33 Krock upside down
19:35 MTDiscord <o​il_boi> Ah that's the worst
19:35 Krock how come?
19:35 Krock if the lamps were upright mounted they wouldn't be that helpful
19:36 MTDiscord <o​il_boi> Because you must be feeling batty
19:36 MTDiscord <o​il_boi> badum tss
19:36 Krock is "batty" a pun? I don't get it
19:36 sfan5 bats
19:36 sfan5 bats hand upside down
19:36 sfan5 hang
19:36 Krock ha ha ha ha ha
19:37 Krock [intense laughter]
19:52 MTDiscord <o​il_boi> https://tenor.com/view/laugh-lol-chuckles-funny-gif-5104045
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22:12 ZaraChimera I am trying to get SkyFactory running on Minetest 5.3.0 win64. I have downloaded the mod from here: https://github.com/Quent42340/SkyFactory/releases/download/0.2.1a/skyfactory.zip when extracted to my /mods folder in the Minetest directory I get an error about init.lua missing. There is no init.lua file in the directory that I can find. I also cannot find it on the github page, what would need
22:12 ZaraChimera to be in the init.lua file if I create it myself to get the mod working?
22:14 ZaraChimera The individual sub-directories in the skyfactory/mods/ folder have init.lua files for the various included mods (e.g. hopper, bonemeal etc).
22:17 ZaraChimera I had a look in dreambuilder mod-pack root and it doesn't have an init.lua either, but I don't get the error about it missing when creating a world using it.
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22:19 ZaraChimera I also had a look at the #skyfactory irc channel listed in the forum threads, but it is empty. Only ChanServ is in there.
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22:21 MTDiscord <J​onathon> Unarelith no longer works on minetest content if i recall correctly, that also only works on a 5.0-dev version of minetest if i recall correctly
22:21 MTDiscord <J​onathon> there working on there own engine now
22:22 MTDiscord <J​onathon> also: did you read the readme?
22:22 MTDiscord <J​onathon> NB: Don't use GitHub Download ZIP option, you'll get empty folders for the mods.
22:25 ZaraChimera MTDiscord: I did read the readme, I got the download from the linked releases location. I didn't use the github zip download. The mods folders have content in them, so it was the correct location. I redownloaded using the link given in the README.
22:25 MTDiscord <J​onathon> oh, im a a idiot, this is a minetest game not a mod
22:26 MTDiscord <J​onathon> so put it in your /games dir and not /mods
22:27 MTDiscord <J​onathon> mtdiscord is the place, not the user look at the name in <> at the begging for the name
22:27 ZaraChimera I extract SkyFactory and put it in my Minetest/games rather than Minetest/mods, do I have that right?
22:27 MTDiscord <J​onathon> correct
22:27 ZaraChimera I will try that, thank you.
22:27 MTDiscord <J​onathon> do note it may or may not work as its no longer supported
22:28 MTDiscord <G​reenXenith> (if it doesnt work you will get a different error, rather than a missing init.lua)
22:28 MTDiscord <J​onathon> ^ i recall he requested rubenwardy to remove or hide it a while back i think
22:29 ZaraChimera Noted. I have had a few other attempts of mods not working as well (usually through quests not advancing--sokomine and cornernote skyblock--or water and lava not flowing--ac-minetest-skyblock).
22:30 ZaraChimera Yeah, seems that skyfactory is busted.
22:31 MTDiscord <J​onathon> there is two forks that both look like they have 2 more commits than master, try those
22:31 MTDiscord <J​onathon> try programmerjakes version, he has a pr open on master even
22:31 ZaraChimera Oh, nice. I'll check those out.
22:32 MTDiscord <J​onathon> seems the game is still open for adoption to if you wanted to work on it 😛
22:33 ZaraChimera I would, but I know nothing about lua scripting.
22:33 ZaraChimera I can get things patched if I have a set of copy-paste steps to follow, but that is the extent of my current ability.
22:34 MTDiscord <J​onathon> ah
22:34 ZaraChimera Is the programmerjakes version on github?
22:35 MTDiscord <J​onathon> yes, look at forks
22:35 MTDiscord <J​onathon> https://github.com/Unarelith/SkyFactory/network/members
22:36 ZaraChimera Thanks.
22:40 ZaraChimera Testing now, though it seems the download link in programmerjake's fork leads me back to the Quent download link
22:40 MTDiscord <J​onathon> use git, not the releases
22:40 MTDiscord <J​onathon> are you on linux?
22:42 ZaraChimera Windows currently.
22:42 ZaraChimera I have a linux box I can dig out and test this on as well.
22:43 MTDiscord <J​onathon> install git bash, then cd to the /games filepath and do git clone --recursive git@github.com:programmerjake/SkyFactory.git
22:43 MTDiscord <G​reenXenith> https://github.com/programmerjake/SkyFactory/archive/master.zip
22:43 ZaraChimera Okay.
22:43 MTDiscord <G​reenXenith> just use the zip
22:44 MTDiscord <J​onathon> you didnt read the readme
22:44 MTDiscord <G​reenXenith> Ah
22:44 MTDiscord <J​onathon> so dont use the zip
22:45 MTDiscord <J​onathon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/807381307839086622/unknown.png
22:45 ZaraChimera Zip download from git gives me empty mod folders :D
22:45 ZaraChimera Which is why the readme says not to use it.
22:45 MTDiscord <J​onathon> the green man didnt read
22:45 MTDiscord <G​reenXenith> Yeah I didnt read
22:45 MTDiscord <J​onathon> install git bash, then cd to the /games filepath and do git clone --recursive git@github.com:programmerjake/SkyFactory.git
22:45 MTDiscord <J​onathon> ^
22:45 MTDiscord <G​reenXenith> The mods folder uses submodules, which GitHub wont package for you
22:46 MTDiscord <J​onathon> before you even bother, ill just test that locally to see if it works
22:48 ZaraChimera Got git installed under openSUSE WSL2 and the clone --recursive command seems to be working.
22:48 MTDiscord <J​onathon> wsl, nice
22:49 ZaraChimera ^,^ Yeah. I have a Ubuntu WSL install as well, but I am more familiar with SUSE and learning my way around NixOS and nix package manager
22:50 MTDiscord <J​onathon> lol, yeah, that doesnt work
22:50 MTDiscord <J​onathon> not sure which version of mtg its even using
22:51 MTDiscord <J​onathon> you could try the other fork, or older versions of the engine, but that game will need a bit of work before its more usable/stable
22:51 ZaraChimera Interesting, it does give different lines in the traceback than the releases in /games did.
22:51 ZaraChimera Well, rats.
22:52 MTDiscord <J​onathon> i have no interest in digging into it more to make it work, sorry
22:53 ZaraChimera I figured it probably wouldn't work, given that most of the stuff on it is a couple years old anyway.
22:56 ZaraChimera Jonathon: understandable, and no worries. I thought I'd ask in case there was a monkey-see-monkey-do type solution that I had failed to find.
22:56 ZaraChimera At this point if I want to get more into Minetest, learning lua definitely seems part of it.
22:56 MTDiscord <J​onathon> git is more important tbh
22:58 MTDiscord <o​neplustwo> I agree. Minetest is about collaborating with others, and it's hard to do that without a good command of git.
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