IRC log for #minetest, 2021-02-05

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01:56	TMcSquared	heyo all
01:57	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> hiya
01:57	TMcSquared	my old username was ThomasMonroe for those who remeber
01:57	TMcSquared	hey @garywhite
02:00	TMcSquared	wow its been a while since ive been on IRC
02:02	TMcSquared	longerstaff13 whats up man?
02:02	gry	welcome back :-)
02:02	longerstaff13	holy
02:02	longerstaff13	is that tre?
02:02	TMcSquared	yeah its me
02:03	longerstaff13	dude! where ya been :D
02:03	TMcSquared	need the password of Dogmios to verify?
02:03	TMcSquared	working my butt off at my job lol
02:03	longerstaff13	oof lol
02:03	longerstaff13	be careful of thr covid
02:03	TMcSquared	hey, im a manager now, so theres that
02:03	longerstaff13	the
02:05	TMcSquared	what have you been up to?
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02:05	realthegooduser	Hi. I have a question
02:05	TMcSquared	that is great that you have a question.
02:06	realthegooduser	it's about a mod I have and something went wrong (if this is for me)
02:07	MTDiscord	<Warr1024> Don't spoil it for everyone
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02:28	LoneWolfHT	So far there are more statements than questions. Sounds like a pretty bad plot
02:29	TMcSquared	heyo LoneWolfHT
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03:05	garywhite	hello TMcSquared
03:08	garywhite	sorry, was having dinner
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08:01	MiniontobyPI	Hi
08:02	MiniontobyPI	may i get help?
08:02	MiniontobyPI	its with csm
08:03	MiniontobyPI	my server yet got crashed
08:03	MiniontobyPI	Bus error (core dumped)
08:07	MiniontobyPI	https://pastebin.com/V4mg5KGp
08:07	MiniontobyPI	it shows nothing
08:08	MiniontobyPI	what wrong?
08:09	MiniontobyPI	it wont directly works, because some values i set but not in the paste
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09:02	BuckarooBanzai	!up pandorabox.io
09:02	MinetestBot	pandorabox.io:30000 seems to be down (IPv6)
09:02	BuckarooBanzai	!up test.pandorabox.io
09:02	MinetestBot	test.pandorabox.io:30000 seems to be down (IPv4)
09:03	BuckarooBanzai	yeah, right :P
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09:17	MiniontobyPI	https://pastebin.com/V4mg5KGp
09:17	MiniontobyPI	plz help me ^
09:19	BuckarooBanzai	"radius 100" did you try it with less?
09:19	MiniontobyPI	not yet
09:19	MiniontobyPI	how much you recommend
09:19	BuckarooBanzai	also: your _server_ crashed while using a csm? o_O
09:20	BuckarooBanzai	try 10 or 20 idk
09:20	MiniontobyPI	trying 10
09:23	BuckarooBanzai	!ip [2a02:c207:2051:9958::1]
09:23	BuckarooBanzai	!up [2a02:c207:2051:9958::1]
09:23	MinetestBot	[[2a02:c207:2051:9958::1]]:30000 seems to be down (host did not resolve)
09:23	BuckarooBanzai	!up 2a02:c207:2051:9958::1
09:23	MinetestBot	[2a02:c207:2051:9958::1]:30000 seems to be down
09:24	BuckarooBanzai	!up 95.111.231.234
09:24	MinetestBot	95.111.231.234:30000 is up (14ms)
09:24	* BuckarooBanzai	is sorry for the noise
09:26	BuckarooBanzai	!up 2a02:c207:2051:9958::1
09:26	MinetestBot	[2a02:c207:2051:9958::1]:30000 seems to be down
09:29	MiniontobyPI	not works
09:31	BuckarooBanzai	MiniontobyPI: if you don't have a proper error-message just strip down the code until it works
09:34	MiniontobyPI	noting shows up
09:46	MiniontobyPI	oh
09:46	MiniontobyPI	adv_csm:init.lua:152: attempt to concatenate local 'node_name' (a nil value)
09:46	MiniontobyPI	stack traceback:
09:53	MiniontobyPI	adv_csm:init.lua:152: attempt to concatenate local 'param' (a nil value)
09:53	MiniontobyPI	hmmmm
09:58	MiniontobyPI	fixed the param
09:58	MiniontobyPI	working
10:06	Ingar	funny how languages without pointers always have a NULL value
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15:27	MTDiscord	<appguru> languages without pointers?
15:27	big_caballito[m]	like lua or python
15:28	MTDiscord	<appguru> Lua does not expose pointers, but that doesn't mean it has none. Tables, functions and threads are all stored by reference; userdata is more or less a pointer.
15:28	big_caballito[m]	i guess most interpreted languages ?
15:29	MTDiscord	<appguru> as said, they do have pointers, just not naked pointers
15:29	big_caballito[m]	true, but in those languages, you generally don't to worry about the pointers
15:30	big_caballito[m]	have*
15:30	big_caballito[m]	which is why they aren't exposed
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16:58	MTDiscord	<exe_virus> Oh trust me I worry about them
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17:34	Brinso	hi
17:36	Krock	bye
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17:56	MinetestBot	[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Server: properly delete ServerMap on interrupted startups d287da1 https://git.io/Jt2IZ (2021-02-05T17:38:34Z)
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18:15	BuckarooBanzai	(sorry again, i don't have an ipv6 setup at home)
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18:15	BuckarooBanzai	nice :)
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18:16	BuckarooBanzai	interesting: it works on ipv4 and 6 when i enable "ipv6_server = true" but there is a warning that it may not work on some systems (somehow)
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18:46	sfan5	there's a warning where?
19:14	MTDiscord	<oil_boi> Good day
19:21	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> hello
19:30	Krock	greetings
19:30	heavygale	howdy
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19:33	MTDiscord	<oil_boi> How's it hanging?
19:33	Krock	upside down
19:35	MTDiscord	<oil_boi> Ah that's the worst
19:35	Krock	how come?
19:35	Krock	if the lamps were upright mounted they wouldn't be that helpful
19:36	MTDiscord	<oil_boi> Because you must be feeling batty
19:36	MTDiscord	<oil_boi> badum tss
19:36	Krock	is "batty" a pun? I don't get it
19:36	sfan5	bats
19:36	sfan5	bats hand upside down
19:36	sfan5	hang
19:36	Krock	ha ha ha ha ha
19:37	Krock	[intense laughter]
19:52	MTDiscord	<oil_boi> https://tenor.com/view/laugh-lol-chuckles-funny-gif-5104045
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22:12	ZaraChimera	I am trying to get SkyFactory running on Minetest 5.3.0 win64. I have downloaded the mod from here: https://github.com/Quent42340/SkyFactory/releases/download/0.2.1a/skyfactory.zip when extracted to my /mods folder in the Minetest directory I get an error about init.lua missing. There is no init.lua file in the directory that I can find. I also cannot find it on the github page, what would need
22:12	ZaraChimera	to be in the init.lua file if I create it myself to get the mod working?
22:14	ZaraChimera	The individual sub-directories in the skyfactory/mods/ folder have init.lua files for the various included mods (e.g. hopper, bonemeal etc).
22:17	ZaraChimera	I had a look in dreambuilder mod-pack root and it doesn't have an init.lua either, but I don't get the error about it missing when creating a world using it.
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22:19	ZaraChimera	I also had a look at the #skyfactory irc channel listed in the forum threads, but it is empty. Only ChanServ is in there.
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22:21	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> Unarelith no longer works on minetest content if i recall correctly, that also only works on a 5.0-dev version of minetest if i recall correctly
22:21	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> there working on there own engine now
22:22	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> also: did you read the readme?
22:22	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> NB: Don't use GitHub Download ZIP option, you'll get empty folders for the mods.
22:25	ZaraChimera	MTDiscord: I did read the readme, I got the download from the linked releases location. I didn't use the github zip download. The mods folders have content in them, so it was the correct location. I redownloaded using the link given in the README.
22:25	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> oh, im a a idiot, this is a minetest game not a mod
22:26	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> so put it in your /games dir and not /mods
22:27	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> mtdiscord is the place, not the user look at the name in <> at the begging for the name
22:27	ZaraChimera	I extract SkyFactory and put it in my Minetest/games rather than Minetest/mods, do I have that right?
22:27	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> correct
22:27	ZaraChimera	I will try that, thank you.
22:27	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> do note it may or may not work as its no longer supported
22:28	MTDiscord	<GreenXenith> (if it doesnt work you will get a different error, rather than a missing init.lua)
22:28	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> ^ i recall he requested rubenwardy to remove or hide it a while back i think
22:29	ZaraChimera	Noted. I have had a few other attempts of mods not working as well (usually through quests not advancing--sokomine and cornernote skyblock--or water and lava not flowing--ac-minetest-skyblock).
22:30	ZaraChimera	Yeah, seems that skyfactory is busted.
22:31	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> there is two forks that both look like they have 2 more commits than master, try those
22:31	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> try programmerjakes version, he has a pr open on master even
22:31	ZaraChimera	Oh, nice. I'll check those out.
22:32	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> seems the game is still open for adoption to if you wanted to work on it ?
22:33	ZaraChimera	I would, but I know nothing about lua scripting.
22:33	ZaraChimera	I can get things patched if I have a set of copy-paste steps to follow, but that is the extent of my current ability.
22:34	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> ah
22:34	ZaraChimera	Is the programmerjakes version on github?
22:35	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> yes, look at forks
22:35	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> https://github.com/Unarelith/SkyFactory/network/members
22:36	ZaraChimera	Thanks.
22:40	ZaraChimera	Testing now, though it seems the download link in programmerjake's fork leads me back to the Quent download link
22:40	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> use git, not the releases
22:40	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> are you on linux?
22:42	ZaraChimera	Windows currently.
22:42	ZaraChimera	I have a linux box I can dig out and test this on as well.
22:43	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> install git bash, then cd to the /games filepath and do git clone --recursive gitgithub.com:programmerjake/SkyFactory.git
22:43	MTDiscord	<GreenXenith> https://github.com/programmerjake/SkyFactory/archive/master.zip
22:43	ZaraChimera	Okay.
22:43	MTDiscord	<GreenXenith> just use the zip
22:44	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> you didnt read the readme
22:44	MTDiscord	<GreenXenith> Ah
22:44	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> so dont use the zip
22:45	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/807381307839086622/unknown.png
22:45	ZaraChimera	Zip download from git gives me empty mod folders :D
22:45	ZaraChimera	Which is why the readme says not to use it.
22:45	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> the green man didnt read
22:45	MTDiscord	<GreenXenith> Yeah I didnt read
22:45	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> install git bash, then cd to the /games filepath and do git clone --recursive gitgithub.com:programmerjake/SkyFactory.git
22:45	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> ^
22:45	MTDiscord	<GreenXenith> The mods folder uses submodules, which GitHub wont package for you
22:46	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> before you even bother, ill just test that locally to see if it works
22:48	ZaraChimera	Got git installed under openSUSE WSL2 and the clone --recursive command seems to be working.
22:48	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> wsl, nice
22:49	ZaraChimera	^,^ Yeah. I have a Ubuntu WSL install as well, but I am more familiar with SUSE and learning my way around NixOS and nix package manager
22:50	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> lol, yeah, that doesnt work
22:50	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> not sure which version of mtg its even using
22:51	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> you could try the other fork, or older versions of the engine, but that game will need a bit of work before its more usable/stable
22:51	ZaraChimera	Interesting, it does give different lines in the traceback than the releases in /games did.
22:51	ZaraChimera	Well, rats.
22:52	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> i have no interest in digging into it more to make it work, sorry
22:53	ZaraChimera	I figured it probably wouldn't work, given that most of the stuff on it is a couple years old anyway.
22:56	ZaraChimera	Jonathon: understandable, and no worries. I thought I'd ask in case there was a monkey-see-monkey-do type solution that I had failed to find.
22:56	ZaraChimera	At this point if I want to get more into Minetest, learning lua definitely seems part of it.
22:56	MTDiscord	<Jonathon> git is more important tbh
22:58	MTDiscord	<oneplustwo> I agree. Minetest is about collaborating with others, and it's hard to do that without a good command of git.
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