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00:55 Copenhagen_Bram3 Will Minetest ever support more sound formats, music, and/or MIDI?
00:57 MTDiscord <B​enrob0329> Maybe if someone takes the time to implement it.
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01:31 MTDiscord <J​ordach> MIDI support is literally blasting the channel data at the audio drier
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01:55 MTDiscord <B​enrob0329> No, because thats literally useless for most setups
01:57 MTDiscord <B​enrob0329> You need a soft synth or soundfont to actually make that useful for most of the population who don't happen to have mid-90s music equipment lying around
02:03 MTDiscord <G​enshin> Minetest hates sounds, lol
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05:10 andrew is there a way to install mt 0.4?
05:10 andrew on arch
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05:19 tygamer Hello
05:19 andrew yeah i compile fom source
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05:20 tygamer What's going on in here?
05:20 andrew nothing
05:21 tygamer rip
05:22 andrew just compiling 0.4
05:23 tygamer Oh I see
05:23 andrew protocol version mismatch
05:23 tygamer What's new?
05:23 andrew nothing
05:24 andrew downloaded wrong tarball
05:25 andrew make -j8
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11:55 Krock Happy 7th birthday to myself (forum)
11:55 Krock ???
11:55 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> More like a "cakeday" then
11:56 Krock yes
12:00 rubenwardy Congrats
12:02 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> ? was forgotten
12:15 Krock ????????
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14:27 MTDiscord <G​enshin> Happy cake day Krock
14:28 Krock thank you, Genshin
14:33 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> Happy mese day!
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16:35 MinetestBot [git] random-geek -> minetest/minetest: Fix scroll bar overlapping text (again) (#9058) 0750047 https://git.io/JU7aT (2020-10-03T16:34:34Z)
16:35 MinetestBot [git] HybridDog -> minetest/minetest: Reduce the FPS when the window is unfocused (#8837) 9dc29a7 https://git.io/JU7aI (2020-10-03T16:33:51Z)
16:35 MinetestBot [git] HybridDog -> minetest/minetest: Chatcommand: Show help message if func returns false without message 4b423ee https://git.io/JU7aL (2020-10-03T16:33:43Z)
16:39 MinetestBot [git] octacian -> minetest/minetest: Lua API: Add register_on_chatcommand to SSM and CSM (#7862) 7d36410 https://git.io/JU7a2 (2020-10-03T16:38:08Z)
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17:02 MinetestBot [git] Wuzzy2 -> minetest/minetest: Document builtin entities (#9453) 41a6136 https://git.io/JU7re (2020-10-03T17:01:38Z)
17:02 MinetestBot [git] LoneWolfHT -> minetest/minetest: Add note to docs on how to override privileges (#9792) 9624387 https://git.io/JU7rv (2020-10-03T17:00:08Z)
17:08 BuckarooBanzai Happy cake day, Krock :)
17:09 Krock <3 thanks
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17:23 Copenhagen_Bram3 Has anyone played the murder mod?
17:24 Copenhagen_Bram3 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=24884&amp;p=381734#p381734
17:24 Elon_Sat0shi Is it like Among Us, or does everyone know who the murderer is?
17:24 Elon_Sat0shi Among Us/Werewolf/Mafia
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17:34 Bombo as admin i set (ingame) '/set -n enable_tnt true' but i can't lay down tnt
17:34 Bombo do i have to restart the server?
17:35 Bombo or is there reload?
17:37 sfan5 yeah you might have to restart
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17:51 Bombo hmmm hm still can't drop it
17:52 Bombo i added enable_tnt = true to world/minecraft.conf
17:52 Bombo i'm playing in creative mode
17:54 Bombo ok i crafted a tnt block, that did explode ;)
17:55 Krock > minecraft.com
17:55 Krock *.conf
17:55 Krock that won't work my friend
17:55 Bombo so just tnt sticks wont explode
17:55 rubenwardy *minetest
17:55 rubenwardy oof
17:55 Krock world/*.conf doesn't exist anyway
17:55 Bombo i accidentally craft
17:56 Bombo what i meant was games/minetest_game/minetest.conf
17:56 Bombo i is dum sorree ;)
17:56 DS-minetest >/set -n enable_tnt true'
17:56 DS-minetest why the -n?
17:57 Krock because it doesn't work without
17:57 Krock probably a bug
17:57 Bombo -n for new
17:58 DS-minetest oh, didn't know the -n thing, sorry
17:59 DS-minetest Bombo: the configuration file is games/../minetest.conf
18:00 DS-minetest Krock: happy forum-join day! :)
18:00 Bombo DS-minetest: yes sorry
18:01 DS-minetest Bombo: no need to apologize
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18:06 Bombo ok so /set doesn't work to set things for the conf
18:06 Bombo wasn't enough to enable tnt, but when i put it in the conf it works
18:08 Bombo minetest needs a reload function so you don't need to restart if you change some setting *featurerequest* ;)
18:08 DS-minetest that would require mods using this reload function
18:10 DS-minetest and there are some things that you can not do after mod loading time, ie. change node definitions
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18:14 Bombo hm
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20:19 Emerald2 Whoops, sorry for all that bouncing. Not sure what that was about.
20:20 rubenwardy caffeine?
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20:21 Elon_Sat0shi Has anyone played the murder mod? Is it like Mafia/Werewolf/Among Us, or do the players know who the murderer is?
20:23 Krock ha ha rubenwardy. funny
20:23 Krock !mod murder
20:23 MinetestBot Krock: Murder mini-game [murder] by Giov4 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=24884
20:23 Krock never played that
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21:52 Andrey01 hello, is there a function that would convert string to table in Minetest API?
21:52 sfan5 depends on how that string looks
21:52 Andrey01 minetest.deserialize is not certainly appropriate I think
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21:53 Andrey01 it looks the same as a converted table would look like, this is not serialized string
21:54 sfan5 "converted" how?
21:55 Andrey01 if I would convert it to that table
22:01 rubenwardy how is it serialised?
22:02 Bombo i'm trying https://content.minetest.net/packages/bell07/skinsdb/ right now, but i get an error when starting the server: '.minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/skindb/init.lua:27: attempt to call field 'request_http_api' (a nil value)'
22:02 MTDiscord <J​onathon> you need to added it to trusted mods
22:03 Bombo README.md says 'pip3 install requests' which i did
22:03 MTDiscord <J​onathon> for getting skins from its website
22:03 sfan5 uh
22:03 Bombo how would i do that?
22:03 sfan5 request_http_api is supposed to exist so something must be wrong
22:03 Bombo i did python3 update_skins.py it downloaded skins
22:04 Bombo already
22:04 rubenwardy are you using dragonfire? I believe that removes request_http_api in favour of just get_http_api
22:04 Bombo whats dragonfire?
22:04 Bombo i'm on linux btw
22:04 sfan5 which version of minetest do you have
22:05 Bombo Minetest 5.4.0-dev-4298d95b1 (Linux)
22:06 MTDiscord <J​onathon> just tested, seems its fine without it being in trusted actually
22:07 Bombo maybe something with my python3 installation?
22:08 sfan5 i'm sure that's unrelated
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22:11 Bombo Jonathon: what version do you use?
22:12 sfan5 rubenwardy: you didn't happen to touch request_http_api in any of your PRs, did you?
22:12 MTDiscord <J​onathon> checked with 5.0.1 and 5.3.0, just fresh on ocntentdb
22:12 MTDiscord <J​onathon> *contentdb
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22:15 rubenwardy testing now, again
22:15 rubenwardy I touched it for the mainmenu, but I had tests for it
22:16 rubenwardy the tests still exist, Minetest will crash if  minetest.get_http_api  exists
22:18 rubenwardy tested, request exists, get doesnt
22:18 Andrey01 rubenwardy, I said the table is not actually serialized into the string, it is just presented as a string
22:19 rubenwardy then how can you possibly convert it as a string?
22:19 rubenwardy makes literally no sense
22:19 rubenwardy what do you actually want to do?
22:23 Andrey01 I am getting an input tables with dofile() call from a console, as they are represented as strings they are needed to be converted to real tables
22:23 Andrey01 how could I do it?
22:24 rubenwardy what format is the string?
22:24 rubenwardy you can't just convert a string to a table, there needs to be an understandable format
22:24 DS-minetest they left
22:25 rubenwardy I'm aware, they'll probably check the logs
22:25 DS-minetest ah, mhm
22:30 Bombo 00:18 <rubenwardy> tested, request exists, get doesnt <- so... git pull?
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22:44 Andrey01 Hmm, strings can be of different format? I really don't know what that is meant
22:46 DS-minetest Andrey01: think of a list separated with commas and a list separated with semicolons. => two different formats, but both are strings: 1,2,3 1;2;3
22:46 DS-minetest "1,2,3" "1;2;3" *
22:46 Andrey01 Ah
22:48 Andrey01 That is, does the format in this context mean which symbols table elements are separated by?
22:49 DS-minetest not only
22:53 Andrey01 Anyway I considered it would look like so in the string, e.g: "{a=1, b=2, c=3}"
22:53 DS-minetest Andrey01: if you use .deserialize, you can write the table as you would when programming in lua (eg. {1, a=2, ["}"]=3}). but if you are getting the string from an untrustful source, this will be dangerous
22:54 DS-minetest ah, this is not fully correct
22:55 DS-minetest first concat "return " in front of the table string
22:55 DS-minetest but users will eg. be able to enter "while true do end" or do even more harmful stuff
22:56 DS-minetest see also https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/41a6136f774a30364b6d3fd2042c9dbeb34f2109/builtin/common/serialize.lua#L184
22:57 Andrey01 In my case I think I need not .deserialize, because it returns a table that was serialized in other format unlikely from I am talking about
23:01 DS-minetest I'm having difficulties understanding you.
23:02 DS-minetest anyway, minetest.deserialize("return ".."{a=1, b=2, c=3}") will return a table {a=1, b=2, c=3}
23:02 DS-minetest afaik
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23:33 MinetestBot [git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest: Deprecate get_player_velocity and add_player_velocity (#10173) 3250b37 https://git.io/JU5TN (2020-10-03T23:33:45Z)
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