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Can I register abm after the game starts? |
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bebebeko |
folks, I don't know how googling that, is there an easy way to do entity rotation around himself like on this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzftue6zbyM ? I found minetest.rotate_and_place method but not sure about it.. |
| 09:09 |
MinetestBot |
[git] tuedel -> minetest/minetest_game: sethome: Replace deprecated function calls (#2724) 4858c2b https://git.io/JJRKM (2020-07-26T09:07:15Z) |
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bebebeko |
okay, looks like i need some magic with object:set_animation() method |
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calcul0n |
bebebeko, there's an automatic_rotate property on entities |
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calcul0n |
Set constant rotation in radians per second, positive or negative |
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bebebeko |
calcul0n: brilliant! thank you |
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deltasquared |
little thing you might all find amusing... experimenting with custom tone mapping in the shaders and I inadvertently created this monstrosity. https://a.uguu.se/PnFCdSm3BiO2_screenshot_20200726_140825.png |
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Zughy |
hey there: wouldn't be better if the "Customize" section on the site only pointed to ContentDB? Because for instance the texture pack section is pretty outdated https://www.minetest.net/customize/ |
| 13:14 |
Talkless |
Hi, I want to start minetest-server for another game, with different world direcotry, but I get: https://paste.debian.net/1157837/ |
| 13:14 |
Zughy |
deltasquared: same the best way to fall into a pit |
| 13:14 |
Talkless |
worlds/world is for Lord of the Test |
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Zughy |
*seem |
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Talkless |
but I want to use different world for different Aftermath game *this time* |
| 13:15 |
Talkless |
https://paste.debian.net/1157839/ |
| 13:15 |
Talkless |
how do I ask minetest server to create different directory for that different game |
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Talkless |
I'm on Debian Sid |
| 13:15 |
Astrobe |
Funny, that shader accident reminds me of certain texture pack... |
| 13:16 |
Talkless |
I want that minetest-server minetest will launch LOTT, and minetest-serveraftermath would launch Aftermath game, with different /var/games/minetest-server/.minetest/worlds/<game> |
| 13:18 |
Astrobe |
Don't you confuse the name of the game with the name of the game, or both have the same name? |
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deltasquared |
Astrobe: to be honest if I dialed up the colour part and applied some thresholding I'd have deep fried minetest... |
| 13:18 |
Talkless |
Astrobe: I want different game to have different world directory |
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Talkless |
currently I start minetest-serveraftermath but it still uses default worlds/world world directory, which is already used by LOTT |
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Talkless |
I don't get it: World 'aftermath' not available. Available worlds |
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Talkless |
so how do I create world? |
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Astrobe |
I think you need to create a world - say "am" - manually for Aftermath then use "--worldname am" option |
| 13:22 |
Talkless |
Astrobe: world name is set: |
| 13:22 |
Talkless |
ExecStart=/usr/lib/minetest/minetestserver --config /etc/minetest/%i.conf --logfile /var/log/minetest/%i.log --gameid aftermath --worldname aftermath |
| 13:22 |
Talkless |
but log file contains: |
| 13:22 |
Talkless |
World 'aftermath' not available. Available worlds: |
| 13:23 |
Talkless |
also where's environment variable documentation? |
| 13:23 |
Talkless |
is it possibel to avoid --gameid --worldname, and use Environemnt= in override.conf? |
| 13:23 |
Astrobe |
hmmm checkout your config file. I think it can cobfigure gameid and worlname too, and that could be a conflict |
| 13:24 |
Talkless |
Astrobe: I've copied minetest.conf into aftermath.conf, maybe I've skipeed somethig. I did change default_game to aftermath |
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Talkless |
Astrobe: most of stuff is commented-out, default_game = aftermath |
| 13:31 |
Talkless |
Astrobe: Iv'e renamed "world" into "lott", but it still selects "lott" then :D |
| 13:31 |
Talkless |
does not try to create new world |
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Talkless |
Astrobe: only after making "worlds" directory empty, it created world "world" (not aftermath) ;/ |
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| 13:37 |
Talkless |
OK so after I have "lott" and "aftermath" worlds, I finaly started.. but: |
| 13:37 |
Talkless |
https://paste.debian.net/1157841/ |
| 13:37 |
Talkless |
xban.db: No such file or directory |
| 13:38 |
Talkless |
"Invalid field inventory_image (expected string got table)" |
| 13:38 |
Talkless |
I guess that game does not work for 5.3 mintest? :/ |
| 13:38 |
Talkless |
gal minetest'as per naujas tam game'ui |
| 13:42 |
Krock |
Talkless: update the mod and then report it to the autor |
| 13:43 |
Krock |
also mobs_redo |
| 13:43 |
Talkless |
Krock: reported on Aftermath thread: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=378202#p378202 |
| 13:44 |
Talkless |
Krock: do you know is it possible to avoid --gameid --worldname by using env. varibales? |
| 13:44 |
Talkless |
Krock: so I don't have to rewrite ExecStart= ? |
| 13:44 |
Krock |
there's no such option |
| 13:44 |
Talkless |
so waht's the point of having minetest-server@ then? |
| 13:44 |
Krock |
unless you create a script |
| 13:44 |
Talkless |
option with %i to select different config |
| 13:44 |
Talkless |
if that's ONLY for config |
| 13:44 |
Talkless |
well and for log file... |
| 13:44 |
Krock |
that's if you specify a map_dir in minetest.conf |
| 13:45 |
Talkless |
Krock: and no worldname in .conf too? |
| 13:45 |
Talkless |
default_game is there, yes. |
| 13:45 |
Talkless |
so that if I create minetest-serverfoo it would read /etc/minetest/foo.conf and there would be specfiied different worldname |
| 13:46 |
Krock |
map_dir points to the world you want to use |
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bebebeko |
folks, is there way to mass remove entities by specific tag/group? |
| 13:46 |
Krock |
the game id is then evaluated using the world's configuration |
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Talkless |
Krock: what if I want to create new world? |
| 13:46 |
Krock |
bebebeko: which tags or groups? armor groups? |
| 13:46 |
Talkless |
Krock: Iv'e got "World 'aftermath' not available. Available worlds:" before... |
| 13:46 |
Talkless |
Krock: had to make sure that worlds directory is empty |
| 13:47 |
Talkless |
/var/games/minetest-game/.minetrst/world that is |
| 13:47 |
Talkless |
worlds* |
| 13:48 |
Astrobe |
There's also default/item_entity.lua to update if Aftermath is based on MTG. |
| 13:48 |
Krock |
mkdir worlds/myworld && echo gameid = aftermath >worlds/myworld/world.mt |
| 13:48 |
Astrobe |
Otherwise you'll get a crash with falling nodes, IIRC. |
| 13:49 |
Krock |
or specify "default_game = aftermath" in minetest.conf |
| 13:50 |
Krock |
that must create a new world if it does not exist yet |
| 13:51 |
Krock |
Talkless: I think the best strat here would be to move most of it into the minetest.conf file you're specifying on startup |
| 13:52 |
Talkless |
Krock: I have map_dir=/var/games/minetest-server/.minetest/worlds/aftermath/ |
| 13:52 |
Talkless |
Krock: but I get 2020-07-26 16:52:04: ERROR[Main]: No world path specified or found. |
| 13:52 |
Talkless |
default_game = aftermath, yes |
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bebebeko |
Krock: not exactly, i'm added a lot of entities with some metadata, for example entity:get_luaentity():path = "foobar", is there a way to select from minetest engine the entities with where "path == /foobar" filter and then mass remove them |
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bebebeko |
s/with/with filter/ |
| 13:53 |
Krock |
bebebeko: there is no metadata. what you're doing is modifying a Lua table which may vanish at any time |
| 13:54 |
Krock |
Talkless: okay that's weird... does it create worlds using the default settings? |
| 13:54 |
Krock |
i.e. only with a --worldname specified |
| 13:54 |
Talkless |
Krock: it creates world if no worlds present, I've hade to move "world" (which was for LOTT) outside of the dir |
| 13:54 |
Krock |
oh wait. --world /path/to/world |
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Astrobe |
Th trailing slash in the pathspec is ok? |
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Talkless |
Krock: it ignored --worldname, just auto-selected "world" |
| 13:56 |
Krock |
Talkless: I assume that's a fallback name back when there was only one world available in Minetest (0.3.1) |
| 13:56 |
bebebeko |
Krock: yep, i know, i just said it an for example, my question is there any proper way to select entities from minetest engine by some filter/tag/group/whatever? |
| 13:56 |
Krock |
bebebeko: you could get all entities within the range of 60E3 (gonna be enough for sure) at position (0,0,0) |
| 13:56 |
Krock |
though that would only show loaded entities |
| 13:57 |
Krock |
there's currently no way to retrieve mapblock data or entity data from unloaded mapblocks |
| 13:57 |
Talkless |
Krock: if I have override.conf like this: https://paste.debian.net/1157843/ |
| 13:57 |
Talkless |
Krock: I get this: 2020-07-26 16:56:32: ERROR[Main]: Error writing configuration file: "aftermath/world.mt" |
| 13:57 |
Krock |
Talkless: wrong link? |
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bebebeko |
Krock: thank you! \o/ |
| 13:57 |
Talkless |
Krock: n |
| 13:57 |
Talkless |
no |
| 13:57 |
Krock |
Talkless: what kind of a override.conf file is that? |
| 13:58 |
Krock |
for a systemd service? |
| 13:58 |
Talkless |
Krock: /etc/systemd/system/minetest-serveraftermath.service.d/override.conf |
| 13:58 |
Krock |
ahhh gotcha |
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Talkless |
Krock: I want to have different serices for LOTT and Aftermath, and any other game |
| 13:58 |
Krock |
how does your --config file look like? |
| 13:58 |
Talkless |
with diferent worlds in /var/games/minetest-server/.minetest/worlds/<game> |
| 13:59 |
Krock |
bebebeko: |
| 13:59 |
Krock |
!nextr |
| 13:59 |
Krock |
!next |
| 13:59 |
MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
| 13:59 |
Talkless |
Krock: https://paste.debian.net/1157844/ |
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Krock |
good so far |
| 13:59 |
Talkless |
Krock: and it would be nice to avoid overriding ExecStart... |
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Talkless |
MINETEST_WORLDNAME env would help |
| 14:00 |
Krock |
yes but I suppose you cannot do that at the moment |
| 14:00 |
Talkless |
Krock: maybe map_dir should be path to "words" ? |
| 14:00 |
Krock |
to me it just look like the systemd service user does not have access to /var/games |
| 14:01 |
Talkless |
Krock: anyway, I'll remove map_dir and use --worldname instead |
| 14:01 |
Krock |
map_dir should be a pretty solid choice, though. The startup argument handling isn't perfect |
| 14:02 |
Talkless |
Krock: I've removed map_dir, and my ExecStart now is: |
| 14:02 |
Krock |
just to make sure: the file permissions are alright for this world? |
| 14:02 |
Talkless |
ExecStart=/usr/lib/minetest/minetestserver --config /etc/minetest/%i.conf --logfile /var/log/minetest/%i.log --worldname aftermath |
| 14:02 |
Talkless |
and it works |
| 14:02 |
Krock |
what |
| 14:02 |
Talkless |
Krock: yes, it's "Debian-minetest games" |
| 14:02 |
Talkless |
Krock: well I still get these Lua errors |
| 14:02 |
Talkless |
but that's different issue |
| 14:02 |
Krock |
yes sure but it's very strange to me that map_dir does not work properly in this case |
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Talkless |
Krock: maybe it does not have to be full absolute path? Just name? |
| 14:04 |
Krock |
oh.it's because it's called "map-dir" |
| 14:04 |
Talkless |
OK let me try |
| 14:04 |
Krock |
this setting is too old to follow naming specs |
| 14:04 |
Talkless |
removed --worldname |
| 14:04 |
Talkless |
Krock: No world path specified or found. :/ |
| 14:05 |
Talkless |
I'll see what sysdig says, what paths it searches |
| 14:06 |
Krock |
according to main.cpp L683 it's supposed to work like that |
| 14:07 |
Krock |
works for me... |
| 14:07 |
Krock |
./minetest --server |
| 14:07 |
Krock |
2020-07-26 16:07:31: ACTION[Main]: World at [/SNIP/worlds/mtg/] |
| 14:08 |
Talkless |
`sudo sysdig "proc.name=minetestserver" 2>&1 | fgrep .minetest | tee /tmp/sysdig` gives me: |
| 14:08 |
Talkless |
https://paste.debian.net/1157845/ |
| 14:09 |
Krock |
./minetest --server --config ../minetestt.conf << works too |
| 14:10 |
Talkless |
Krock: you mean map_dir works? |
| 14:10 |
Krock |
"map-dir" works |
| 14:10 |
Krock |
presumably the only minetest.conf setting that contains a dash |
| 14:11 |
Talkless |
ihm |
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Talkless |
uhm |
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Talkless |
Krock: it get EACCESS: 286877 17:12:01.611858382 1 minetestserver (29440) < mkdir res=-13(EACCES) path=aftermath(/aftermath) |
| 14:12 |
Talkless |
it tries from root... |
| 14:12 |
Talkless |
if map-dir = aftermath |
| 14:12 |
Krock |
what if it's an absolute path? |
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Talkless |
Thans Krock for the help! |
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Krock |
!next |
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MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
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Astrobe |
250+ players in the top 5 servers alone, not bad. |
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fossrox |
how changes through player:set_bone_position() influence attached objects? |
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fossrox |
is it needed to recalculate something? |
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tyler-2 |
I can't figure out how to use giveme... how would you do /giveme in mineclone and get a sadle? |
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tyler-2 |
saddle |
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Astrobe |
I guess /giveme mobs:saddle |
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balirt |
I have a question regarding engine coding. |
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balirt |
Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/6cee1745914327f908316eced3acff30/pasted.txt |
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balirt |
since it's bit longer, I uploaded it as a .txt |
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Krock |
...overload the function? |
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balirt |
if I wanted that, I could rather than overload the class constructor, instead just rewrite the class... however i'm trying to avoid rewriting that class since every additional change increases the chance of the pull request to be rejected |
| 16:30 |
balirt |
I have to either not change anything at all, rewrite the HUD_elem class, or find a way to pass several variables in one of its strings |
| 16:30 |
balirt |
and i'm debating which is less worse from the view of a codeDev |
| 16:31 |
balirt |
coreDev* |
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Astrobe |
Everytime I saw strings abused that way it eventually led to problems - except in TCL maybe. |
| 16:40 |
Astrobe |
Just because a window is broken, doesn't mean you can break another one. Just do the right thing if your dev is worth its salt. |
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Krock |
balirt: hard to tell. I cannot judge concepts well without seeing some code |
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Krock |
or even - the final goal |
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Krock |
after all inheritance is also possible, and might solve some of your problems |
| 16:43 |
balirt |
goal: to make the HUD in minetest able to play animated images just like the animated_image formspec element |
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balirt |
problem: I need to pass minimum 3 new s32 variables and the only unused field in my HUD_elem class is a single string field |
| 16:45 |
Krock |
make a new field |
| 16:45 |
balirt |
other HUD_elem classes also misuse unused string fields, such as the waypoints element |
| 16:45 |
balirt |
so I was trying to be as similar as possible to existing accepted code |
| 16:45 |
balirt |
I guess in this case, rewriting the class with new fields is the better approach |
| 16:46 |
balirt |
since the other "mis-uses" only use a string to store a string |
| 16:46 |
Krock |
you don't need to rewrite that much. replace driver-> calls to draw images to a function that handles animations |
| 16:46 |
Krock |
..which then calls to the render function |
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balirt |
that would work if I had a single standard way of doing it, and modders can only call this way with their HUD element fields |
| 16:49 |
balirt |
I wanted to make possible the other functions of the animated_Image formspec field, such as: set speed of animation, set animation start frame, set height of animation frame |
| 16:49 |
balirt |
and make all those available to mods that call a normal HUD element in lua |
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balirt |
but the HUD element has so few arguments I can pass through q_q |
| 16:51 |
balirt |
I didn't want to make it worse than the formspec thing, but I don't have enough fields to pass the variables through |
| 16:53 |
balirt |
of course one can always say "default height of HUD animation is always 100 pixels, and framerate is always 15, deal with it", then I don't need to pass these through with the hud_elem |
| 16:53 |
Krock |
HUDs could have better parsing anyway. structs inside an union, and per-element reading from network |
| 16:53 |
Krock |
instead of everything being a single huge blob |
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Krock |
of random named variables and usages |
| 16:54 |
balirt |
it would make sense to do that, which is already the way formspecs do it (sort of) |
| 16:54 |
balirt |
however, then there is the argument whether it would be better long-term to make HUD a special part of formspecs anyway |
| 16:55 |
balirt |
which would break everything, and requires everyone to be satisfied with current formspecs |
| 16:55 |
balirt |
another can of worms... |
| 16:56 |
Krock |
I had the ActiveObject command message handling in mind, but formspec is also a bit into this direction |
| 16:56 |
Krock |
content_cao.cpp L1553, for example |
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balirt |
I hadn't looked at that. Yes, seems even more general. However, I think it's a bit overkill for the HUD unless you want to really render anything in game, also in the HUD |
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balirt |
formspecs are very limited, but in a way that makes sense for HUD elements as well unless you want to render half the game on the HUD |
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Astrobe: cannot give unknown item. :-/ thanks for the attempt! |
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Krock |
hmm.. yet no search features on gitea |
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Krock |
tyler-2: https://git.minetest.land/Wuzzy/MineClone2/src/branch/master/mods/ENTITIES/mobs_mc/1_items_default.lua#L254-L263 |
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Astrobe |
Maybe mobs_horse:saddle then. |
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Krock |
/giveme mobs:saddle |
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tyler-2 |
That was tried. :-) /giveme mobs_horse:saddle ain't it eitger |
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tyler-2 |
Nor mobs_mc:saddle |
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Krock |
grep -r "saddle" |
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Krock |
that'll find it inside your mineclone2 directory |
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Corey[m] |
Would be nice if there was a /lsitems mod:* command or something |
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tyler-2 |
I'm probably just gonna go looking at player inventory in the db, oof |
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Krock |
if you have one in your inventory, turn on the item name setting in minetest.conf |
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Krock |
> tooltip_append_itemname = true |
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Astrobe |
or a /giveme "saddle" and MT does the popular "did you mean game..." |
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Astrobe |
GCC does it after all... |
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Krock |
google too |
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tyler-2 |
Tried to google and got nothing. Will try those others. |
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Astrobe |
Is it an argument against the idea? ;-) |
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Corey[m] |
hmm saddle eh, lemme see if I'll fair better with a grep for you tyler-2 |
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Corey[m] |
tyler-2: try mcl_mobitems:saddle |
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Astrobe |
I see. It was translated in German :-) |
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tyler-2 |
That did it! Thanks Corey[m] and others who tried! |
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Corey[m] |
You're welcome :) |
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Andrey01 |
Hello |
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Andrey01 |
Does anybody know are there any Irrlicht Q&A forums or IRC channel? |
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Andrey01 |
stackexchange.com like doesn`t have similar one |
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_Zaizen_ |
Hi everyone, does anyone know how to remove from the object itself in an oop where I have table to remove after setting the value at nil. Doing self = nil doesn't work, does anyone have an idea on how to do that? |
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_Zaizen_ |
I have a situation similar to this https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38274561/remove-self-in-lua but I do not want to index by the object. |
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sfan5 |
keep the key you need inside the object then you can set it to nil correctly |
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_Zaizen_ |
So if I remove the key the whole "object" would be gone? |
| 21:37 |
sfan5 |
define "gone" |
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_Zaizen_ |
Not present in the table. |
| 21:46 |
sfan5 |
if you do object_table[key] = nil the object will be gone yes |
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_Zaizen_ |
Thank you sfan5, I will try that way. |
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blaise |
what is the minetest mod with the trains? |
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sfan5 |
!mod advtrains |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: Advanced Trains [advtrains] by orwell - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=14726 - https://github.com/h-v-smacker/advtrains_granite |
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blaise |
Yass, thank you |
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blaise |
:D |
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