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swift110_ |
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swift110_ |
sup gry how are you? |
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gry |
OK. Figuring out computer things at the moment. |
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whats going on with your computer gry |
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gry |
Homework |
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oh ok |
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swift110 |
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how r u gry and SwissalpS |
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I'm ok. I'm in Oceania, so it is late afternoon here. |
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deltasquared |
is it possible to override how chat appears when sent to clients *if no other chat handler handles it*? which is to say, can I hook chat formatting without using an on_chat handler |
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deltasquared |
alternatively, is there a function that will format a message as if it came from a certain player? |
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deltasquared |
the use case is a sort of "shadowmute" mod for dealing with troll players. they'll still think they are talking, but nobody else will see it. |
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deltasquared |
so I'd need something that can be called to produce text that would look like a regular chat message in essence, but would only be set to the shadow muted player. |
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SwissalpS |
I don't think you can do that with a mod without using on_chat hook |
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SwissalpS |
we use beerchat and there we have a command to force spamers to seperate channel |
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SwissalpS |
https://github.com/minetest-beerchat/beerchat |
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deltasquared |
I was opting for something a little more simple on the server I moderate. if it's only a mod for shadowmuting (one thing, and doing it well) then it's a bit easier to make the case for :) |
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deltasquared |
I guess I can always just make a function that formats it as is the default currently if all else fails. though if that format ever changes it'd be detectable, but it may be the best I can do. |
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SwissalpS |
you could by default put new players on a newb channel and then once they learn to use channel switching, allow them to join actual discussion |
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SwissalpS |
xban is the only somewhat sure way to get rid of annoying players |
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deltasquared |
well on this particular server there is already a rules dialog with a randomised keyword (so they have to *read it all*). it has crossed my mind to suggest to the owner that we alter that so shout isn't in the base set and grant shout when they pass the rule check. |
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deltasquared |
SwissalpS: except when they keep coming back past even that |
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deltasquared |
we've had a few cases of very determined players. they appeared to be IP rotating each time along with a new username. |
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SwissalpS |
yeah, VPN is also a way to avoid xban but they need a new user-name |
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deltasquared |
thankfully such cases are rare, but I'd prefer to slow them down as much as possible - shadowmute can achieve that because they may not realise what is happening at first |
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SwissalpS |
also beerchat offers /mute command so any player can just mute them |
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deltasquared |
true, but the idea is to automatically mute all players so nobody can respond even if they wanted to. that way the troll may just think they're not going to get their "hit" and just move elsewhere. |
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deltasquared |
*mute them to all players |
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SwissalpS |
that can easily be implemented as a moderator only command |
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deltasquared |
hence my query about chat formatting. |
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SwissalpS |
I'm adding that as an issue, thanks for the idea :) |
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deltasquared |
lawl! sure I guess xD |
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deltasquared |
one issue I can think of is with irc relays |
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deltasquared |
any such shadowmute handler would have to have higher "precedence" than such relays to ensure that the dumbness wouldn't leak to IRC either. |
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SwissalpS |
yes, certainly would have to mute to irc too |
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deltasquared |
https://github.com/minetest-mods/irc certainly appears to use register_on_chat_message. I'm working on the assumption that marking it as "handled" by returning true from the callback function prevents further callers. |
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deltasquared |
specifically https://github.com/minetest-mods/irc/blob/master/callback.lua#L22 |
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rubenwardy |
deltasquared: minetest.format_chat_messagw |
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deltasquared |
rubenwardy: ah, excellent. it would appear my choice of search times when grepping for it failed me this time. |
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deltasquared |
unrelated note, is there a ready-made way to register a privilege that requires priv A *or* priv B? I'd like to be able to grant a read priv and a modify priv for instance, where the modify priv will be valid for everything the read priv can do. |
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deltasquared |
it wouldn't be too hard to implement manually, just curious if I'd be re-inventing the wheel. |
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MinetestBot |
[git] IFRFSX -> minetest/minetest_game: Add traditional Chinese translation (#2579) f255e36 https://git.io/JvZDc (2020-02-06T19:15:13Z) |
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Wuzzy |
Now presenting the Retro Plus texture pack! |
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Wuzzy |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=24065 |
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