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14:45 MinetestBot [git] stujones11 -> minetest/minetest: Remove un-needed header inclusion 88ba1c7 https://git.io/fx7YN (2018-10-29T14:37:44Z)
14:45 MinetestBot [git] stujones11 -> minetest/minetest: Move touchscreen input handling to base GUIModalMenu class 323c860 https://git.io/fx7YA (2018-10-29T14:37:44Z)
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14:52 mars hello! i've recently (in the last few months) encountered an issue in which my mt server with 97% uptime is not showing in the master server list. since i have not changed any settings the problem stumps me (it is possible my hosting provider changed something - i use digitalocean). can anyone tell me again what the requirements are for announcements to work correctly? i can successfully ping the server list from the server, so my out
14:53 mars p.s. also, players are able to connect and play normally. it is only the announcement that is not working.
14:55 sfan5 your domain (if any) needs to resolve and your server needs to respond to connections
14:55 sfan5 note this also applies to ipv6 if you have configured it with your domain
14:56 mars i have both ipv4 and ipv6 public addresses, however only ipv4 is enabled in the minetest.conf. the domain name does resolve (i can reach it from my home computer).
14:56 sfan5 do you have ipv6 configured with your domain?
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14:59 mars i'n not sure actually. according to the digitalocean control panel, my server does have a public ipv6 address, however i have never been able to use it or test it, because my home isp doesn't support ipv6 out of the box yet
14:59 mars so i've always relied on ipv4
14:59 sfan5 what's your domain?
14:59 mars arklegacy.duckdns.org
15:00 sfan5 no ipv6 on there
15:00 sfan5 the "nslookup" tool might be able to check this if you're on windows
15:00 mars ok. ipv4 should be working though.
15:00 mars i am on linux
15:01 sfan5 !up 138.197.78.5
15:01 MinetestBot 138.197.78.5:30000 seems to be down
15:01 mars well that's just odd
15:01 sfan5 different port?
15:02 sfan5 !up 138.197.78.5
15:02 MinetestBot 138.197.78.5:30000 seems to be down
15:02 sfan5 well that's interesting, I can reach it from my home connection
15:02 mars no, 30000 is correct
15:02 mars so can i
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15:05 sfan5 can't find anything wrong on my side
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15:05 mars from the server, i can ping the server list (ping and ping6 both work).
15:06 mars i guess that means my outgoing connection works?
15:06 sfan5 generally, yes
15:08 sfan5 any easy way to fix this might be to just configure IPv6 with your domain, in the hopes that it will work
15:10 mars i would have, but i can't test since my neighborhood isp isn't handling ipv6 yet
15:11 mars could you try ping6 2604:a880:800:a1::e0:3001 ?
15:11 sfan5 wrosk
15:11 sfan5 works*
15:11 mars that's the public ipv6 as stated by the DO control panel
15:11 mars ok
15:11 sfan5 with digitalocean you can generally expect ipv6 to work correctly out of the box
15:12 sfan5 one more thing: if you decide to do this, make sure set ipv6_server = true in minetest.conf
15:12 sfan5 (don't worry, people with ipv4 will still be able to connect)
15:12 mars good to know
15:13 mars i have bind_address = 138.197.78.5 in the conf, should i remove that?
15:13 sfan5 yes
15:18 mars rebooted the server with ipv6 enabled ... seems to work, i and another player have been able to connect
15:18 mars checking my ip from within the game shows an ipv6 address
15:19 mars (it used to only show ipv4 address for me)
15:19 mars thanks a lot! at least that's 1 problem gone now :)
15:20 sfan5 your domain still doesn't seem to have an IPv6, so this might just be a coincidence
15:21 mars there's an apache server running there (port 80 i think), not sure how it is configured.
15:22 sfan5 https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=a%3aarklegacy.duckdns.org this is what I mean
15:27 mars i just realized my ip address as shown in-game is actually an ipv4 address but formatted to look like ipv6 (::ffff: in front of it). this is due to network translation i assume?
15:28 sfan5 "network translation" is not the exact term, but yes
15:32 mars hmmm, it is still not showing up in the server list. not sure how long it should take
15:34 mars just found this in my debug.txt: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 500)
15:35 mars yep, it says that once a day, going back some months to when the problem started
15:37 sfan5 there might be a single 500 when restarting the server
15:40 mars oh, it tries again. do'h! so false alarm i guess
15:42 mars the server's name is "Must Test" btw. it still doesn't show up, but i think this problem is beyond me ...
15:43 sfan5 !up arklegacy.duckdns.org
15:43 MinetestBot arklegacy.duckdns.org:30000 seems to be down
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18:05 evilytwisted hello guys, the server I joined has pipe mod installed,  when I try to make the water pump I get nothing, https://imgur.com/a/tHAHpR7 can someone help me understand whats going on?
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18:17 sfan5 have you tried looking it up on the forum?
18:18 evilytwisted i haven't,
18:18 evilytwisted first thing i checked in here
18:19 evilytwisted im not trying to play games with anyone,  even if i did check the forums i wouldn't know where to look.
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18:20 sfan5 pretty sure that mod is called "pipeworks", so try googling that
18:21 evilytwisted that's what i just said in my opening introduction.
18:21 Krock !mod pipeworks
18:21 MinetestBot Krock: Pipeworks [pipeworks] by VanessaE - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=2155
18:21 Krock there you go
18:21 evilytwisted i know what the mod is, also why i showed the 2 pictures, in pipe works, it should create the waterpump which it doesntot.
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18:21 Krock inb4 I didn't read the logs
18:22 evilytwisted hey, at least i admit it
18:22 evilytwisted instead of trying to go.. OH yeah... I read the logs.. blah blah blah
18:22 sfan5 you said "pipe mod", could be another one in theory
18:22 evilytwisted your correct, im sorry about that.
18:23 evilytwisted i was under the impression there was only one pipe mod for this game.
18:23 Krock that's where you're wrong :D
18:23 Krock many machinery are out there.. but not many are used on servers
18:23 evilytwisted ah,
18:23 sfan5 pipeworks is by far the most popular mod for pipes
18:24 Krock Petition to add pipes (flutes) you can play ingame
18:24 evilytwisted i used to play a modded Minecraft which had this kind of stuff built in.
18:24 evilytwisted gregtech and industrialcraft
18:24 evilytwisted when  i found minetest had this i was like OMG>
18:24 Krock greptech would be more nerdy
18:24 evilytwisted and?
18:24 evilytwisted isn't any and all form of Minecraft kind of technically "nerdy"
18:25 Krock thus, "more"
18:25 rubenwardy he was making a joke
18:25 rubenwardy grep vs greg
18:25 evilytwisted i don't understand the joke, im sorry -_-
18:25 Krock not directly a joke, just some weird brainstorm coming by
18:26 Krock evilytwisted: you'll probably need mesecons for that recipe
18:26 evilytwisted we have that
18:26 evilytwisted i can show proof if needed
18:27 Krock no need. how's the node called?
18:27 Krock maybe something with pump
18:27 evilytwisted node? you mean ore?
18:27 Krock no, that thingy you can't craft
18:27 evilytwisted water pump
18:27 evilytwisted just a second
18:28 Krock that should be copper ingots
18:28 evilytwisted pump/intake module
18:29 evilytwisted and in the 2 pictures,  https://imgur.com/a/tHAHpR7
18:29 evilytwisted youll see i have the parts for it.
18:29 Krock what version of Minetest are you running?
18:29 Krock or more important: what version of minetest_game?
18:29 Krock that looks like moreores' copper
18:29 evilytwisted opengl windows 10 portable version.  4.6.0
18:29 evilytwisted and yes we have moreores installed
18:30 Krock what's 4.6.0?
18:30 Krock oh. opengl
18:30 Krock hit F5 to see which Minetest version it is
18:30 evilytwisted mintest 0.4.17/.1
18:30 evilytwisted without the /
18:30 Krock recent enough. weird that it doesn't take the default copper
18:31 evilytwisted yeah i was disappointed. i wanted to create a factory
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18:31 Krock oh btw, in your craft grid, that's the wrong stone block (look closely)
18:31 evilytwisted i wanted to have a gregtech factory without the greg.
18:31 evilytwisted O yeah i know
18:31 evilytwisted its just "stone"
18:31 evilytwisted I thought it would make a difference which i added stoneblock
18:31 evilytwisted but no such luck
18:32 Krock either some mod is changing the recipe of that pump (doubt it), moreores is outdated, or your pipeworks installation is older than 4 years
18:32 evilytwisted it isn't mine, its my dads.
18:33 evilytwisted and maybe. i wouldn't know i would have to ask him when he gets home from work. NO i don't live in the basement, i live in an attick
18:33 evilytwisted attic *
18:34 evilytwisted alkso i don't think its related, but he noted that anything related to cotton, the recipes don't work
18:34 Krock well, from my PoV that doesn't matter at all. Just trying to help by providing some facts. Let your dad know that the mods might be a bit old
18:35 evilytwisted i will, and i do appreciate it,
18:35 evilytwisted is there a command that doesn't require permission to know what mods are installed and what version?
18:35 Krock yeah, cotton was a topic somewhen.. must be older than a year because I don't remember in which release it was
18:35 Krock are installed: run /mods
18:36 Krock version: well, not much luck without cloning the repo
18:36 evilytwisted yeah i noticed
18:36 evilytwisted i got a picture for you
18:36 Krock kittens?
18:37 evilytwisted yes, kittens, dancing on pineapples
18:37 evilytwisted https://imgur.com/a/u2dYnDA
18:38 Krock oh. remote server
18:38 evilytwisted Without the dancing.
18:38 evilytwisted https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TmS3T0yBvtw/maxresdefault.jpg
18:38 evilytwisted yeah its a remote server
18:38 Krock tell your dad to update the server to 0.4.17.1
18:38 evilytwisted that will do.
18:38 Krock including minetest_game
18:38 Krock the craft issue should be solved afterwards
18:38 evilytwisted i thought i had the latest minetest?
18:39 evilytwisted Oh you mean mod
18:39 evilytwisted ok
18:40 evilytwisted again, ty for the help krock
18:40 Krock >.<
18:40 Krock dude
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20:58 MinetestBot [git] numberZero -> minetest-mods/mesecons: Don’t damage unloaded blocks (#435) 45bbd9f https://git.io/fx7Ap (2018-10-29T20:58:07Z)
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22:08 MinetestBot [git] TumeniNodes -> minetest/minetest_game: Beds: Use mod textures instead of default_wood.png 5ccf965 https://git.io/fx5Jc (2018-10-29T22:08:25Z)
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23:31 guesty Are any of the minetest IRC channels bridged to any other chat services?
23:37 dzho guesty: one sees through /names that quite a few nicks here have [m] after them, which usually indicates that nick is participating via Matrix
23:37 dzho others have -m which I think is also Matrix?
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23:48 scr267 Does anyone know why I would get the following error on castle_tapestries? castle_tapestries/init.lua:161: attempt to call field 'register_color_craft' (a nil value)
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