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MinetestBot |
[git] basicer -> minetest/minetest: Allow enter to select items from combobox's list (#7351) 2b83af7 https://git.io/fNg3G (2018-07-28T10:58:16Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] ClobberXD -> minetest/minetest: Log server shutdown using actionstream (#7589) e8aad2e https://git.io/fNg3Z (2018-07-28T10:58:02Z) |
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yusf[m] |
Hey. Is it bad to put node timers on all leave nodes? Better or worse than using ABMs? :D |
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VanessaE |
not as long as you don't start them until needed |
| 12:23 |
VanessaE |
plus once a timer expires, that's it, whereas an ABM keeps on repeating so long as the node exists. |
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yusf[m] |
Hmm okay. I want to spawn particles from them occasionally. ABMs sounds like it would get the job done |
| 12:30 |
yusf[m] |
What I want to do would require node timers to be active all the time. Perhaps better then to run ABMs on very long intervals? |
| 12:35 |
VanessaE |
just depends on what oyu'r |
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VanessaE |
... |
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VanessaE |
just depends on what you're actually doing. |
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rubenwardy |
yusf[m], VanessaE: node timers are better than ABMs usually, however it's a throw up between memory and CPU |
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rubenwardy |
node timers take a bit of memory per node |
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rubenwardy |
whereas ABMs take up CPU for all blocks, as it needs to search for the nodes every interval |
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VanessaE |
a toss-up* |
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rubenwardy |
5.0 will have some performance improvements on this - ie: ABMs won't search a mapblock again if it knows it doesn't have the nodes it's looking for |
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rubenwardy |
sure |
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rubenwardy |
as a general rule, if most mapblocks won't have this node then use a node timer |
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rubenwardy |
so, grass => ABM |
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rubenwardy |
furnace => node timer |
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rubenwardy |
not sure about leaves, I think MTG uses a node timer |
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VanessaE |
they use a timer triggered by trunk removal. |
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rubenwardy |
oh right |
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rubenwardy |
well, that's another thing - they don't need to run every interval |
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rubenwardy |
only after an event |
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VanessaE |
right |
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rubenwardy |
makes sense for a timer |
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rubenwardy |
but yeah, avoid doing work you don't need to do. As VanessaE said :) |
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VanessaE |
I'm good at avoiding work ;z) |
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VanessaE |
;) |
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rubenwardy |
XD |
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yusf[m] |
I see. Though the event in this case then would simply be that a player is pretty close to the node, within ~50 nodes. |
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yusf[m] |
Thanks for your input VanessaE rubenwardy |
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Andrey01 |
can i use escape consequences in formspec? for example, i want the text to be splitted into several lines |
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Andrey01 |
for example, can i make it so: "button[1, 1;1, 4;O\n".. "p\n".. "e\n".. "n\n".. "#1]" |
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Andrey01 |
i`ve tested and it doesn`t work |
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Andrey01 |
are there any other ways to do that? |
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rubenwardy |
minetest.formspec_escape |
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rubenwardy |
"button[1, 1;1, 4;" .. minetest.formspec_escape("O\np\ne\nn") .. "]" |
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rubenwardy |
buttons may not support newlines, however |
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Andrey01 |
thx |
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Andrey01 |
rubenwardy, it doesn`t work |
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rubenwardy |
buttons don't support multiline text then |
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Andrey01 |
then should i set a button in horizontal orientation? |
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Andrey01 |
devs, are you planning to add new mobs in future versions? |
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rubenwardy |
yes |
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rubenwardy |
not soon |
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Andrey01 |
what mobs do you want to add? |
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Andrey01 |
just interesting |
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rubenwardy |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1667 |
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rubenwardy |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Mobs · Issue #1667 · minetest/minetest_game · GitHub |
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Andrey01 |
oh, no, only don`t add mobs from mobs redo, add own mobs |
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Andrey01 |
i consider this should be mod |
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piesquared |
Run! |
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Andrey01 |
don`t add please from mobs redo, add own mobs |
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Ruslan1 |
Hi piesquared |
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Andrey01 |
i`ve read that Github discussion and at the end paramat said he will add mobs, but what will be? |
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Andrey01 |
and devs add please a chance to create mirrors, is it impossible now, though? |
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* rubenwardy |
sighs |
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Andrey01 |
homedecor mod has bathroom mirror, but it can not mirror indeed, will you add this possibility? |
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Andrey01 |
so will you not add mobs from mobs redo? |
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hmmmm |
y0 |
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hmmmm |
has OldCoder been around these parts lately? |
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hmmmm |
he CCed me on another crackpot email a few days ago and that usually coincides with an oldcoder sighting on this chan |
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sfan5 |
around here? no |
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sfan5 |
but as you said, he showed some activity a few days ago |
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hmmmm |
what was his last nick? |
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sfan5 |
no idea |
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sfan5 |
he's k-lined so hasn't been around freenode for a long time |
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hmmmm |
yeah, well deserved k-line at that |
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hmmmm |
problem is that he has 500000 proxies to bypass that |
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hmmmm |
l0de if you know him does a talk show on efnet every so often, we're gonna try to get him to call into it |
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hmmmm |
we think OldCoder is part of the so-called freenodegate spam |
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hmmmm |
ya |
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hmmmm |
I told him about the most recent email because he got referenced a few times |
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hmmmm |
he accused l0de of DDoSing |
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hmmmm |
OldCoder drama >> LandMine drama |
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Krock |
Accusations are sadly not a new occurrence |
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hmmmm |
yeah he began with accusing us all of ddosing him |
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hmmmm |
lol we just code |
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Out`Of`Control |
you 2 are feeding troll |
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sfan5 |
hmmmm: in what way are you involved with l0de? o.O |
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hmmmm |
he's not a troll, he's mentally insane but not deserving of any sympathy because of how he tries to damage everybody |
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hmmmm |
sfan I know of him just from being on efnet for a while |
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hmmmm |
he's a cool dude |
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sfan5 |
that "we" made it sound like more than that |
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sfan5 |
i see |
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hmmmm |
he never spammed anything, that's some people from #stress that hate his guts trying to get angry people to call into his show |
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rubenwardy |
Oh, I thought he was associated with oc |
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hmmmm |
nah but if l0de does manage to get a hold of him and convince him to call into the radio show |
| 20:02 |
hmmmm |
shit's gonna be hilarious |
| 20:04 |
hmmmm |
anyway |
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hmmmm |
anybody here going to defcon? |
| 20:05 |
rubenwardy |
Unfortunately no |
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rubenwardy |
Going to freenode's conference though |
| 20:06 |
rubenwardy |
Which happens to be in Bristol, UK :) |
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hmmmm |
yeah most of my minetest peeps are in europe |
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hmmmm |
darn :/ |
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hmmmm |
would be cool to meet up |
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rubenwardy |
https://rubenwardy.com/freenode-live/ |
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rubenwardy |
Where is defcon? |
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hmmmm |
las vegas |
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hmmmm |
nevada, united states of america, planet earth, solar system "sol" |
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hmmmm |
galaxy "milky way" |
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rubenwardy |
Sounds like an expensive weekend |
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sfan5 |
but fun |
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hmmmm |
yeah it could be expensive if your work doesn't cover it |
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hmmmm |
nowhere nearly as bad as blackhat briefings |
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rubenwardy |
If I get the same job as my internship, they might |
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rubenwardy |
Not even a goodbye |
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rubenwardy |
How rude |
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Krock |
+b |
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Krock |
+ /s |
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rubenwardy |
I'm planning on going NYC or SFC at some point |
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rubenwardy |
And maybe Toronto |
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rubenwardy |
Canada is nice, it's like the US but as if it was created by the British |
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rubenwardy |
Everyone's so polite there |
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paramat |
hi hmmmm :) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest: Add protocol_version and supported package types to ContentDB urls 14011bd https://git.io/fNgiK (2018-07-28T23:26:03Z) |
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