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01:19 Omnia Hello.
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01:36 Omnia Ermm
01:37 Chinchou Hello, Omnia
01:37 Omnia Oh, hello there
01:37 Omnia I have a question regarding the UI on Android port
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01:38 Omnia Why the buttons are so, eh, uncomfortable.
01:39 Chinchou You'd probably have to ask whoever maintains the port.  I'm not sure who that is though
01:39 Omnia Humm
01:39 Omnia Yes
01:39 Omnia And, is impressive, because people does crazy things with LUA API.
01:40 Omnia But I think if UI would be an additional problem to enjoy mods on Android.
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02:16 Genshin I wonder, is it possible to add a texture for the actual clouds?
02:16 Genshin would be pretty neat.
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09:47 ANAND Sator, this specific chapter would be of use to you: https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/chapters/nodes_items_crafting.html
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13:44 Fulgen is there a way I can change the texture of a specific node at runtime?
13:44 Fulgen (not the node definition, but one node in particular)
13:48 entuland Fulgen, I think you cannot
13:48 entuland I stumbled on that myself, you can only define that stuff at mod init time
13:48 Fulgen :(
13:49 entuland I have an entire mod that can't do it's job properly due to that problem, it requires a world restart in order to pick up newly created node types
13:49 Fulgen ok
13:49 entuland hopefully the devs will let us do that in the future
13:50 ANAND Fulgen, you can define a new node with a similar texture, and replace the original node with it at runtime.
13:51 Fulgen ANAND, I think that's way too unflexible with my use case
13:53 Fulgen (as I don't guess I can register nodes as runtime)
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14:21 ANAND Fulgen, https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/lua_api.html#soft-texture-overlay
14:22 ANAND You can pre-define nodes this way unless you have too many variations
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14:32 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Update embedded Lua to 5.1.5 (#7387) ddd03c3 https://git.io/vhGe0 (2018-05-30T14:30:44Z)
14:35 Fulgen AAND: ok, thank you
14:35 Fulgen ANAND: ^
14:36 BillyS Do minetest textlists not support strings with numbers in them?
14:36 ANAND Your welcome :)
14:36 BillyS If so, is there some way I can escape the numbers?
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15:23 Aug-Top Hello
15:25 Aug-Top the mod night vision goggles still exist ?
15:37 Krock !mod night
15:37 MinetestBot Krock: Night Vision Goggles! See Day In The Dark! [night_vision] by Aqua - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4277
15:37 Krock yes.
15:38 Krock however, the links are dead (ompldr down for years already)
15:39 Aug-Top yes there is a link of the source code?
15:39 Aug-Top git hub ?
15:39 Aug-Top or other ?
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15:43 Krock heh nice. there was a reupload to dropbox in 2014 -- down too. I think you'll have to ask whether there's someone around who has a copy of this mod if it's worth rescuing
15:44 Krock many other wielded light mods exist, which do basically the same as this mod
15:45 Aug-Top Yes, I should adapt it later ... I do not know if anyone has a copy ...
15:45 Aug-Top you have examples ?
15:46 Krock !mod walking
15:46 MinetestBot Krock: Walking Light [walking_light] by Echo - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=2621
15:46 Krock !mod torch
15:46 MinetestBot Krock: 3D Torch [torch] by Mito551 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=6216
15:47 Krock not that actually. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=19378 -- more: http://krock-works.16mb.com/MTstuff/modSearch.php?p=1&q=light
15:47 Aug-Top Thank you. The mod exists with an armor ? (My goal is to adapt it with 3d_armor)
15:48 Krock all of these mods have in common that other players on the server will see you highlighted because mods may not alter the client shaders to generate this effect
15:49 Krock good question. I've never seen any depending on 3d_armor, but it would surely be doable to implement there
15:49 Aug-Top yes
15:50 Aug-Top Yes that's the goal. I was planning to get inspired by the mod night goggles so I could make some changes to fit it
15:52 Aug-Top There is currently no mod that can do that?
15:54 Krock I can't confirm or deny that - however, the chances are low that there's one which does exactly what you would like to have
15:55 Aug-Top Ok, so I'm going to start developing some armor, from this mod
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16:33 andirc8000 is there minetest.clear_registered_abms() (like there's clear_registered_biomes())? Is there a way to 'clear' an active block modifier?
16:33 andirc8000 I can try and comment out the register_abm() calls in minetest_game\mods\default\functions.lua but that would be an ugly hack prefer some cleaner way
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16:42 Krock andirc8000, clear the minetest.registered_abms table before ScriptApiEnv::initializeEnvironment is called
16:43 Krock i.e. directly into your init.lua file, without waiting on any callbacks
16:43 Krock to stop mods from registering further abms, simply overwrite the function register_abm
16:44 Krock to disable the abms (kinda) dynamically: get to know which index of registered_abms is the ABM you'd like to modify (there's a name/description/label value sometimes) - and set action = function() end
16:47 ANAND Krock, there's no mention of a registered_abms table in lua_api.txt
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16:48 Krock because it's an internal table and isn't friendly to use because wrong values may crash the engine
16:48 ANAND Ah, I see
16:49 ANAND Anything that says register_* has a global table accessible by mods, am I correct?
16:51 Krock everything in "minetest." (or "core.") is accessible by mods. Dump the table if you want to see what's all in this table.
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16:52 ANAND Nice...
16:52 Krock https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/game/register.lua -- where the tables to store node data/entities and stuff are created
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16:53 ANAND Nicer...
16:57 andirc8000 oh dear
17:00 andirc8000 Krock: thanks. I want to clarify when you say 'clear the minetest.registered_abms' but there's no 'minetest.clear_registered_abms()' function... ... so ... can I like assign like 'minetest.registered_abms = null' in init.lua? (my knowledge of lua is rather rusty)
17:00 Krock <Krock> andirc8000, clear the minetest.registered_abms table before ScriptApiEnv::initializeEnvironment is called
17:00 Krock clear does not mean erase or delete
17:01 Krock minetest.registered_abms = {}
17:01 Krock and "null" in Lua is called "nil"
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17:03 andirc8000 Krock: so this will work? https://hastebin.com/ayiyapekon.lua
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17:05 Krock *shrug* .. just try it
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17:11 andirc8000 Krock: yes just setting it to {} appears to work will test further thanks
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