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swift110 |
hey all |
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MinetestBot |
[git] lhofhansl -> minetest/minetest: Allow zoom to actually show more data. ae9b1aa https://git.io/vF1jX (2017-11-16T06:03:58Z) |
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TempUser |
Quick question, hope I can get an answer here without going through the hassel of going on the dev channel: does using `base.png^[sheet:16x16:0,0' (as mentioned in the Lua API) use hardware tiling such that the GPU performs fewer texture binds? Since that is the most common reason to use tilesheets a.k.a texture atlases. Thanks! |
06:39 |
nore |
TempUser: I think it does not reduce the number of texture binds, only the number of media files that need to be sent to the client |
06:41 |
TempUser |
I feared that would be the case. Oh well. Thank you! |
06:52 |
sfan5 |
TempUser: none of the texture modifiers uses any hardware features |
06:52 |
sfan5 |
it's all done in software to generate a new texture |
06:57 |
TempUser |
No way to use real texture atlases? :( What about animated textures? They use an 'atlast' of sorts, though a small one. Maybe a way to use animated textures without the actual animation bit? |
06:59 |
TempUser |
It's just that it seems like a fairly trivial but useful feature to have performance-wise. I can't help but notice that Minetest had a texture atlas in the past but it was removed. Bugs I think? |
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therickster |
Hey, can someone tell me what minetest.org is? I can't find anything about it and it's pretty odd |
07:24 |
philipbenr |
It looks like just a blog/half baked website of somebody who uses Minetest. Nothing official I don't think. |
07:24 |
therickster |
they even have a clone of the minetest.net forums |
07:25 |
therickster |
and the blog itself looks like it's written by a not so stable person |
07:25 |
philipbenr |
Or bored |
07:27 |
therickster |
Well I thought they were just bored until I got to the part of the blog where they accuse an IRC member of being a child molester |
07:27 |
philipbenr |
Never mind |
07:27 |
philipbenr |
Look at the dates in the forums |
07:27 |
philipbenr |
Right about March 31st |
07:27 |
philipbenr |
It looks to be an april fool joke |
07:28 |
philipbenr |
That was carried on for a couple days |
07:28 |
therickster |
http://minetest.org/mtbook.html |
07:28 |
therickster |
Skim through some of that |
07:28 |
therickster |
That doesn't look like an april fool's joke to me |
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AnotherUser |
It is not a joke. |
07:30 |
therickster |
Can you explain what it is, then? |
07:31 |
philipbenr |
That |
07:31 |
philipbenr |
^ |
07:31 |
philipbenr |
After reading that mtbook section I'm now more curious than I should be |
07:32 |
AnotherUser |
I am not in a position to explain in detail. |
07:33 |
AnotherUser |
But I mainly wanted to say that it is definitely not official. |
07:33 |
therickster |
Well I don't think the actual Minetest people would like to have their website confused with the rambling's of a schizophrenic person |
07:35 |
philipbenr |
It looks like there are legal implications if it is not a joke... I still don't know why all this is posted out on a public website. Much of this seems like it should be communicated through mail or email or some other private communication. |
07:36 |
sy |
that site is run by oldcoder |
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sy |
a strange personality |
07:36 |
sy |
but hes nice |
07:37 |
philipbenr |
Looks like cornernote also worked on the site. |
07:38 |
philipbenr |
Regardless, I don't think there is anything the Minetest team can do about it really.. |
07:39 |
therickster |
A disclaimer somewhere that says it's not an official site? |
07:39 |
AnotherUser |
if you mean the mtmodding book, I think I have seen that elsewhere. I do remember being surprised to see it on that site, and thought at the time that it must have been a copy. |
07:39 |
therickster |
Because it took me a while to find the real one |
07:39 |
AnotherUser |
You will find no such disclaimer. |
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philipbenr |
I don't think it will be so much of a problem. minetest.net and minetest.com are higher up on the search list. |
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philipbenr |
For pretty much all search engines |
07:41 |
therickster |
It's still rather concerning that I couldn't find anything about it |
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rubenwardy |
Therickster, philipbenr: OldCoder is hostility attacking our community. That's the website he owns where he posts such information |
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rubenwardy |
Because he's hostile he's not going to put a disclaimer |
11:33 |
rubenwardy |
From his view his Minetest is the official Minetest |
11:33 |
rubenwardy |
sy, nice years ago, maybe |
11:34 |
sy |
huh |
11:34 |
rubenwardy |
All that can be done is being done, so I wouldn't worry about it too much |
11:35 |
sy |
can i have a tldr of that page |
11:35 |
rubenwardy |
Lol |
11:35 |
sy |
well |
11:35 |
sy |
people go evil over time |
11:36 |
* sy |
pulls scary face |
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rubenwardy |
AnotherUser: the modding back is under a free license. That site has an outdated version on it. You'll find the official and up to date version at rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book |
12:11 |
Fixer |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfH2t2UgjnU |
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Jordach |
got a core compiling error |
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Jordach |
str |
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Jordach |
https://gist.github.com/Jordach/26b652a702c221cd645d47dab96ea48c |
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LordBetaX |
someone online? |
19:18 |
LordBetaX |
Can someone tell me how do I chage my skin? |
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sfan5 |
you need a mod installed that allows changing skins |
19:19 |
LordBetaX |
wich mod? |
19:19 |
Krock |
any skin mod |
19:19 |
LordBetaX |
ok |
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LordBetaX |
thanks |
19:19 |
Krock |
http://krock-works.16mb.com/MTstuff/modSearch.php?q=skin |
19:19 |
LordBetaX |
I that the original developer is online to chat |
19:19 |
LordBetaX |
thank you |
19:19 |
LordBetaX |
bye |
19:20 |
Krock |
!next |
19:20 |
MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
19:20 |
philipbenr |
Nice |
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Krock |
hello philipbenr. haven't noticed you being here before - active in IRC now too? |
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LordBetaX |
last thing |
19:27 |
LordBetaX |
is a skin mod compatible with minecraft skins? |
19:27 |
philipbenr |
Yeah, I just downloaded a new IRC client |
19:27 |
philipbenr |
I was around a bit earlier, just I got a new computer, and never installed |
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sofar |
LordBetaX: it can be, depends/varies |
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philipbenr |
Plus I left the forums right around election time |
19:28 |
philipbenr |
Which might be easily explained all by itself |
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sofar |
philipbenr: lol |
19:28 |
LordBetaX |
ok sofar |
19:29 |
sofar |
philipbenr: just come play on my server, it has a nice low-pressure and relaxed atmosphere, and tens of hours of gameplay |
19:29 |
sofar |
you can play Krocks puzzle |
19:30 |
sofar |
I should see how much gameplay time we have, actually |
19:30 |
philipbenr |
So an actual story line? |
19:30 |
philipbenr |
Impressive.. |
19:30 |
sofar |
there's a story line hidden in the tutorial levels |
19:30 |
sofar |
it's not entirely finished, though |
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sofar |
I've been thinking of making an extension |
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philipbenr |
Regardless, its still something that Minetest hasn't really had, so that's good |
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rubenwardy |
philipbenr, or there's CTF |
20:04 |
rubenwardy |
have 10s of Mobile ~bots~ mobile players swear at you in russian whilst running around and digging holes |
20:06 |
philipbenr |
Wasn't that you who wrote the CTF mod? |
20:07 |
Raven262 |
That sounds almost like Dota2, rubenwardy. |
20:07 |
Raven262 |
Without digging holes though. |
20:07 |
rubenwardy |
yes, philipbenr |
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Donbatman |
rubenwardy, I have 2 mods that got merged into another mod. They do not exist on github. Do they show here because the forum page still exists? https://minetest-mods.rubenwardy.com/status/?a=Don |
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Donbatman |
oh ya Hi rubenwardy |
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rubenwardy |
which ones? The two at the top? |
20:12 |
Donbatman |
ya |
20:12 |
rubenwardy |
that site is powered by the forum, so yeah |
20:13 |
Donbatman |
ok thanks. I will request them toi be moved |
20:13 |
rubenwardy |
it's working correctly if it doesn't add them due to a Github 404 |
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Donbatman |
they are in old mods |
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Fixer |
rubenwardy: are you sure they are bots and not actual kids? |
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rubenwardy |
thatsthejoke.jpg |
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Raven262 |
LOL |
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Fixer |
rubenwardy: WHAT? |
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Fixer |
rubenwardy: I'm asking because I've read somewhere that some people seen some bot-like players |
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Fixer |
that follow the player or punch or do trivial tasks, or whatever |
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Fixer |
maybe it is just urban legend |
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Donbatman |
Fixer try saying "bot-like players" 3 times. They might show up |
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Fixer |
Donbatman: sometimes it is hard to assess if it is kid or bot, you join some new server, suddenly smth is following you up, so you start hide and seek, /spawn, hide and seek |
23:01 |
Fixer |
it is like, I just joined and wanted to look around and something is stalking me |
23:03 |
Fixer |
something |
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rubenwardy |
lol |
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rubenwardy |
I was making a joke about how some people think players are bots |
23:07 |
Fixer |
but some people actually think |
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paramat |
botkids |
23:07 |
Fixer |
not just me |
23:07 |
Fixer |
here is my account: |
23:07 |
Fixer |
i've joined jas server when it was at early 0.5.0 iirc |
23:07 |
Fixer |
there were two players |
23:08 |
Fixer |
and one was talking in very weird neural network like text (possibly translation on the go?) |
23:08 |
Fixer |
I even saved screenshot somewhere |
23:09 |
Fixer |
text was in russian |
23:10 |
Fixer |
smth like: I will give you a gift Very valuable gift Breath out |
23:10 |
Fixer |
and then some very weird russian + english + russian part |
23:10 |
Fixer |
will show where to build EDITING spawner in all boys |
23:11 |
Fixer |
and iirc there was weird text about that felt like construction work related ad? :S |
23:11 |
Fixer |
more inclined to think it was some kind of auto translate |
23:12 |
Fixer |
it is technicly possible to make bots for minetest |
23:13 |
Fixer |
someone reported weird bot like player behaviour, i think on hometown server |
23:14 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/72VKOj9.png |
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jas_ |
Pruner684 still has protected areas on dcbl. |
23:47 |
jas_ |
https://i.imgur.com/w7Xt6F2.png |
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Legends |
hi |
23:51 |
philipbenr |
Hi |
23:52 |
Legends |
how is evryone |
23:52 |
Legends |
??? |
23:52 |
philipbenr |
I don't know about everybody else, but I'm exhausted. But it helps that its Friday tomorrow. |
23:52 |
Legends |
yeah youre right |
23:53 |
Legends |
do you know the IRC name for Legends Of Survival? |
23:53 |
philipbenr |
No, I don't |
23:53 |
Legends |
darn i have been looking for it |
23:53 |
Legends |
but |
23:54 |
Legends |
thats ok |
23:54 |
Legends |
what did you do today |
23:54 |
Legends |
??? |
23:54 |
philipbenr |
Went to class, took some tests, talked to professors, not much. Average college life. |
23:55 |
Legends |
ohhhh you are in college |
23:56 |
Legends |
for how many years?? |
23:56 |
ThomasMonroe |
Legends, its on ircxerox.tk |
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Legends |
so far |
23:56 |
Legends |
oh im UNLIMITED_GAMER |
23:56 |
Legends |
thanks lol |
23:56 |
ThomasMonroe |
yw |
23:56 |
Legends |
XD |
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Legends |
This awkward |
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ThomasMonroe |
not really |
23:57 |
Legends |
well idk |
23:57 |
philipbenr |
You found out what you wanted, so. |
23:57 |
Legends |
yep thanks |
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Legends |
is it ok if i stay? |
23:58 |
philipbenr |
I don't see why not |
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swift110 |
sup |
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ThomasMonroe |
not much swift110 |