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GreenDimond |
I have only done a little with mod storage, but I would like to make a function that can add/remove playernames to a modstorage table, and a function that can check that table. |
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jas_ |
local store = minetest.get_mod_storage() |
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GreenDimond |
I have that part |
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jas_ |
minetest.register_on_playerjoin(function(player) store:set_string(player:get_player_name(), "cool" end) |
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jas_ |
checking the table is just a store:get_string() call, i think. i use minetest.serialize() and deserialize() to convert to/from tables. but there likely is a better way. |
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GreenDimond |
well there is a from_table() and to_table() too... |
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jas_ |
that sounds reasonable! lol |
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GreenDimond |
But I dont know how to use them, but the set_string sounds a lot easier.. |
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jas_ |
what are you trying to do? i'm not sure. |
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jas_ |
local table = store:to_table() |
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jas_ |
or is it from_table()? lol |
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jas_ |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L3348 OK |
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GreenDimond |
I want to make 2 commands to set players to lets just say "cool" and "not cool" (not using these, just examples). In order to do that, I need to use mod storage because you cant set attributes if the player is not on. |
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jas_ |
i guess it depends what you want to do. here's mine: https://github.com/jastevenson303/dcbl_default/blob/master/init.lua#L72 |
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jas_ |
ok. |
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jas_ |
store:set_string(player_name, "cool") |
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jas_ |
that should be it, right? |
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GreenDimond |
and then use get_string to check? |
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jas_ |
correct |
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jas_ |
worth a try. i believe that's correct. |
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GreenDimond |
how do I remove the string? |
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jas_ |
set_string(player_name, nil) |
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GreenDimond |
alright, thankyou :D |
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jas_ |
you're welcome, good luck! |
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jas_ |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjmmjXGwarU |
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Extex |
"Calinou, Im trying to make a forum account but it says im a known spammer. can you help me?" |
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Extex |
Calinou? |
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Calinou |
Extex: I don't remember how I can whitelist certain IPs :/ |
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Calinou |
or even know if I can do that |
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Calinou |
your IP is probably in a known spammer range |
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Extex |
Why? |
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GreenDimond |
How do I check if a player exists even if they are offline? |
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GreenDimond |
minetest.get_player_by_name only works if they are online |
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GreenDimond |
nevermind, found how to do it. |
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GreenDimond |
jas_, set_string(param, nil) doesnt set param to nil for some reason? |
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GreenDimond |
because if I check the string, it wasnt unset. |
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Out`Of`Control |
GreenDimond: what if you look for privs |
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GreenDimond |
I thought about that |
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GreenDimond |
but I dont want the player to know they have the priv or that they have been granted it |
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rdococ |
GreenDimond! |
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jas_ |
GreenDimond: it doesn't set param to nil, it sets that string to nil. is that what you mean? i might be confused, not sure about another way to clear an entry. try regenerating the table? gbfn |
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Please help me to change player's inventory size correcly. Documentation says changing inventory formspec shoould be done in 'on_joinplayer' (https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L3525). I did so (https://pastebin.com/GpsrdqaG), but it is not working. |
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swift110 |
rubenwardy, what is the link to the event you was at recently |
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rubenwardy |
jesus christ |
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rubenwardy |
please bookmark it |
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rubenwardy |
you've literally asked me this at least 5 or so times already |
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sorry |
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deltasquared |
hrm, I guess VanessaE was right about moving light sources, they do seem to cause a slight increase in server load just with one of them |
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wnereiz |
I'm trying to migrate to postgresql on minetest 0.4.16, but got following errors: |
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wnereiz |
ERROR[Main]: An unhandled exception occurred: Database backend postgresql not supported. |
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wnereiz |
Can you help me? |
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wnereiz |
minetestserver --migrate postgresql --world "/path/to/myworld" |
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rubenwardy |
you need to compile with postgresql |
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wnereiz |
which cmake configures should I use? |
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deltasquared |
I'm not sure if postgresql is picked up automatically if present. |
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deltasquared |
wnereiz: don't forget the postgresql-dev package or whatever the equivalent for your distribution is |
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wnereiz |
deltasquared: okay, will try |
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wnereiz |
deltasquared: not working |
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wnereiz |
Looks like it was not compiled with postgresql support |
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wnereiz |
I'm not sure if it is "off" by default |
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wnereiz |
which means I have to enable it |
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deltasquared |
wnereiz: the -dev package was if you were recompiling it, it won't affect built binaries |
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deltasquared |
sorry, I didn't emphasise that a rebuild was likely still needed |
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wnereiz |
deltasquared: I checked spec file, -devel is not included |
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deltasquared |
wnereiz: I don't really know the procedure myself, so you'll have to look it up. |
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wnereiz |
deltasquared: Fine. Thanks a lot |
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deltasquared |
argh, github doesn't let you have HTML READMEs any more!? |
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deltasquared |
I mean I guess there *is* pages, but that's not quite what I had in mind, it's not tied into the same repository |
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Taose |
Readmes should be Txt at any rate >.> |
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Taose |
Maybe even a pdf? |
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deltasquared |
Taose: the minimal subset of HTML that I use (it's hand written, I swear!) feels more natural for the things I use it for - like sane list handling and paragraph/newline tags |
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deltasquared |
https://github.com/thetaepsilon-gamedev/minetest-mod-lightentity/blob/master/doc.xhtml |
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deltasquared |
I'm not really bothered to re-write it now I've written it anyway >.< |
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rubenwardy |
Taose, nah MD |
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Taose |
You say handwritten... I'm thinking Quill and Ink? |
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Taose |
I feel like my first year at University when I had to hand write a HTML web page -_- |
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Taose |
(not a joke, actually did that, they got slightly annoyed when I referenced a CSS page that they had to go find in the library) |
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deltasquared |
Taose: heh, did you put library://xxx... as the source url? ;) |
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deltasquared |
perhaps more accurate would have been hand typed, then |
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deltasquared |
also, slightly strange question, does MT have any position on epilepsy? |
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deltasquared |
I was just adding a thing to my moving light source entity just now to slow down the update interval (hopefully to reduce lag...), but noticed that if the player moved too fast (perhaps they fell) it would cause flashing both on the wielded image and on nearby walls |
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deltasquared |
nothing strobe-like mind, but it did occur to consider it (it made *my* head hurt just a tad to watch) |
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deltasquared |
AFAIK there isn't a "warning: this game may contain flashing images" thing on the site, or maybe a disclaimer saying that mods *may* cause that and it is the user's discretion |
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orbea |
deltasquared: isn't there already a no warranty disclaimer in the license? |
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deltasquared |
orbea: that is true, but ethically it bears worth repeating as it were |
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orbea |
i guess so :shrug: |
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deltasquared |
all it means is they can't sue the devs for it, though it probably won't stop them being admittedly salty |
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deltasquared |
I think I would be if I wasn't expecting it and I woke up on my floor |
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orbea |
heh... |
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Taose |
I didn't use library but pretty much. |
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Taose |
I think there are things we can and should do to reduce the effects of triggering epilepsy |
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Taose |
But I don't think we're in a position where it's a problem as yet |
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Taose |
Might be worth reaching out to an Epilepsy charity to see what we could do? |
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deltasquared |
Taose: well I was just looking at some guidelines here https://abilitynet.org.uk/download/2715/Epilepsy%20and%20Computing%20March%202016.pdf?redirect=node/196 |
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deltasquared |
hah, 100hz or above to not cause seizures due to refresh rate flicker, rip |
| 14:31 |
Taose |
Nothing we can do about that |
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deltasquared |
Taose: my thoughts on that would be adding a "lighting disable" mode, though it may not help with rapidly switching textures for instance |
| 14:31 |
Taose |
most monitors only have a refresh rate of 60... |
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deltasquared |
off the top of my head, the only 100% bulletproof ways to prevent seizures would make the game *very* visually boring |
| 14:32 |
Taose |
Pretty much |
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deltasquared |
there are some really stupid edge cases I can think of, so I agree that seeking advice on the matter would be more appropriate |
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deltasquared |
even if it were just to advise that it not be played by those with the condition. |
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deltasquared |
... wait what |
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deltasquared |
I dunno if it's just to do with the method I'm using but apparently a light source moving at 5-6 times a second does not add measurable overhead to a server |
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deltasquared |
or rather, it's within margin of error |
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Taose |
It depends on what it's doing |
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deltasquared |
Taose: like I said earlier, it's an entity which moves a light source as it moves around (but only if it rounds to a different node) |
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deltasquared |
setting the interval (of accumulated dtime) to ~0.3 adds seemingly adds neglible load, faster than that still evens out to ~1-2% extra but has spikes every now and again (not sure if caused by other operations) |
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deltasquared |
I think then it might be worth looking at the profiler data. |
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deltasquared |
does the profiler include time spent in code like minetest.set_node() and re-light calculations in particular? |
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Jordach |
Taoki, https://youtu.be/OZHcY4xFeRQ |
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Taoki |
Jordach: Very cool. I hope it will be built into minetest_game |
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rubenwardy |
Jordach is very hostile towards it |
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rubenwardy |
*MTG |
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Jordach |
MTG is a flaming tyre fire |
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rubenwardy |
I would approve it though, depending on the perfance |
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Jordach |
it does use a modified lightning from sofar |
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rubenwardy |
adding weather is on MTG's roadmap |
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deltasquared |
what did I miss? |
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deltasquared |
also "flaming tyre fire" that... is not the impression I got, what can I say |
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deltasquared |
weather is an interesting one to do with cubic chunks, I can only assume it would have the same caveats as with sky lighting right now - namely, build something too tall and it will crap out and rain indoors |
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Jordach |
not entirely |
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Jordach |
just make it rain from cloud level |
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Jordach |
problem solved |
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deltasquared |
hmm, I guess. though it might not help if you're in a deep hole and there are unloaded areas between you and cloud level, but there happens to be a roof in those areas |
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deltasquared |
without force loading all chunks up to the sky (which has problems at great depths), there will always be caveats |
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deltasquared |
s/sky/clouds/ |
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Jordach |
deltasquared, you don't need to |
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loganrun |
I tried /giveme tnt:tnt, but it says unknown item |
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loganrun |
is there anyway to do this? |
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loganrun |
nevermind got it |
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sovetskiy |
to do what? answer question? it's so hard even to say "I don't know" here. Instead you will wait for silence. |
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deltasquared |
loganrun: did you make a typo? "/giveme tnt:tnt" should work fine (with appropriate privileges) |
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Krock |
no, it doesn't work when hosting a server |
| 19:51 |
Krock |
TNT must be enabled manually AFAIK |
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deltasquared |
figures, a bit like with servers in general - anti-griefing measure I guess |
| 19:52 |
* deltasquared |
has a couple of large holes in his test world from playing with power-64 explosions from luacmd |
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orbea |
yea, TNT is off by default on servers, fire too |
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loganrun |
yeah got it, trying to figure out if there is a list of items. so that i can give stuff |
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deltasquared |
"list of items"? "give stuff"? |
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deltasquared |
I detect an !xyproblem, except it's the wrong channel for that command... -_- |
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deltasquared |
to quote the #archlinux bot: “Tell us what you're REALLY trying to do. http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem †|
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Krock |
arch linux? https://i.imgbox.com/VjDs5vh0.png |
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rubenwardy |
the best way to find item names is the wiki, unfortunately |
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rubenwardy |
and F5 |
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rubenwardy |
oh' |
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Krock |
aww man. that image was removed |
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rubenwardy |
there is a setting to show item names in tooltips |
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rubenwardy |
0.5-dev |
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deltasquared |
Krock: was it meme-related |
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rubenwardy |
Krock: :( |
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rubenwardy |
I'm surprised you're an archlinux user, you've been in the channel for quite a while and that's the first time you mentioned it |
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loganrun |
is there a way to change ownership of a bone box |
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deltasquared |
loganrun: ... in the spirit of the above, why would you want to do that |
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rubenwardy |
loganrun, either wait until the protection expires, use protection_bypass, or write a mod |
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rubenwardy |
meta:set_string("owner", "newusername") |
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deltasquared |
rubenwardy: I could have sworn I mentioned it at somepoint ;) |
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deltasquared |
I didn't think it would be suprisingly |
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Krock |
deltasquared, comic. a guy riding the bike and putting a stick into the wheels "pacman -Syu". crashes with the bike. cries on the grass. |
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deltasquared |
Krock: oh, that. yeah I think I know that one |
| 20:03 |
deltasquared |
I can't remember who he curses though |
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* rubenwardy |
uses an Ubuntu derivative |
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* rubenwardy |
hides |
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Krock |
was posted on linuxmasterrace last week IIRC |
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Krock |
rubenwardy, same |
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deltasquared |
rubenwardy: it's fine. |
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rubenwardy |
It's a common repost |
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loganrun |
how does protection bypass work |
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loganrun |
is that a grant option |
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deltasquared |
loganrun: seriously what are you trying to do |
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Krock |
yes. |
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rubenwardy |
loganrun, it's a privilege that allows the player to access any chests or protected nodes |
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rubenwardy |
but what deltasquared said |
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deltasquared |
inb4 he's trying to get into someone else's bones on a server |
| 20:04 |
rubenwardy |
you don't want to give it to untrusted players |
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rubenwardy |
just hide the bones somehow and wait for expiration |
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rubenwardy |
if you're doing that |
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deltasquared |
loganrun: ok, let's try this another way, and please do not be offended: are you trying to claim the contents of another's bones on a server you don't own? |
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deltasquared |
... |
| 20:06 |
deltasquared |
dude hurry up, my eyebrows are going to stick like this :P |
| 20:07 |
deltasquared |
(╯°□°)╯︵ â”»â”â”» |
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loganrun |
I think I got it thanks |
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deltasquared |
rubenwardy, Krock: https://ptpb.pw/Ethw.png |
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deltasquared |
in regard to ^^ |
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Calinou |
rubenwardy: https://i.redd.it/kzbvz8m6hxwz.jpg |
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rubenwardy |
:D |
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deltasquared |
I... I'm not familiar with what that is supposed to be parodying |
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rubenwardy |
Monty Python? |
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Calinou |
I guess, yeah |
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Calinou |
would Monty PyPy be a faster version? ;) |
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deltasquared |
much faster, but somehow you still understand it |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: River water renewability: Add comments to nodes.lua and bucket mod 3ae382c https://git.io/vFwcc (2017-11-11T21:37:27Z) |
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[git] bertrandda -> minetest/minetest_game: README: Update minetest.net downloads link to avoid redirection 91997d9 https://git.io/vFwcC (2017-11-11T21:35:56Z) |
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[git] raymoo -> minetest/minetest_game: Creative: Make the placenode registration check for non-player placers 8b5ad0f https://git.io/vFwcW (2017-11-11T21:34:30Z) |
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[git] raymoo -> minetest/minetest_game: Creative: Make handle_node_drops override work for non-player diggers 319b9ee https://git.io/vFwcl (2017-11-11T21:34:05Z) |
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Wuzzy |
does anyone know a weather mod which does NOT suck? |
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Taose |
I'm almost satisfied with the one on the main page but nope... |
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Taose |
To be fair, my biggest gripe at the moment is NPCs... can't find a decent mod at all. |
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Calinou |
it's not really possible to make fast mob AI in pure Lua |
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Fixer |
Wuzzy: until faster particles PR is merged, everything will suck |
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sovetskiy |
formspecs suck |
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Taose |
I didn't say they had to be quick |
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Taose |
I just wanted it to be stable and preferably programmable (of sorts) |
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Extex |
Calinou can you fix my IP address, So I Can Make An Account On The Forum, Thanks |
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Calinou |
Extex: I cannot change your IP address :) |
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Calinou |
really, I don't know what to do about this, since the forum doesn't let you register |
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Calinou |
(so I can't force-activate your account, since it doesn't exist) |
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rubenwardy |
could find out the service we use for spam IP detection? |
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rubenwardy |
and somehow get them to whitelist |
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Calinou |
I think it's stopforumspam |
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Extex |
If You Could Add Me To The White-list That Would Be Great Thanks |
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Taose |
If you have a Dynamic IP address, you could just turn off your router for 24hours and hope it re-allocates |
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Taose |
(some services reallocate after as little as 30 minutes) |
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rubenwardy |
Extex: http://www.stopforumspam.com/removal |
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Fixer |
my country is banned from anandtech forums entirely for like 10+ years for spam reasons |
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Fixer |
iirc |
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Calinou |
Taose: the IP range is banned, not the single IP |
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Calinou |
sometimes as wide as an entire ISP or even country |
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Taose |
yeowch |
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Taose |
Welp there's only one option left |
