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[git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest: Fix mistake when calling on_priv_grant/revoke, and document them (#6341) 72c09f5 https://git.io/v5ZPM (2017-08-29T05:57:56Z) |
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https://pastebin.com/U9z3b59W I put a debug page up. I've had great luck with advanced trains but now everythings comes up but the Engioms.what do i have to do? |
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I'm trying to have a node drop default:dirt, but instead the node drops itself. Here is the relevant code. Any ideas on what is wrong? https://paste.ubuntu.com/25423356/ |
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jas_ |
Wrcwpk https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/72c09f524b1616dd75bb6e35008196b5ca6351a2/doc/lua_api.txt#L4403 |
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U added an s. Its drop not drops heh i had to look it up ;) |
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is there another way to get titanium? |
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Ifollow one video tutorial for crafting titanium and don't work, I don't know how to mine it (I found it in a mine but No picker can dig her) |
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Wuzzy |
!seen kilbith |
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Wuzzy: kilbith was last seen at 2017-08-13 00:09:55 UTC on #minetest-fr |
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Wuzzy |
Hey, does anyone know how to contact kilbith / jp? |
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by mail? |
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Errante |
Hello guys. I got a strange problem. Im trying to run jsonrpc4lua within a minetest mod. So, I installed it inside mod's folder. Now, when I try to require"json.rpc" it doesnt give me any error, but when I try to call json.rpc.proxy() it says json is nil |
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Errante |
if I rename rpc.lua to init.lua the whole code works fine |
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Errante |
should I dofile instead of require ? |
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sfan5 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L3170 |
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Errante |
thx for the answer |
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Errante |
I didnt mention, but I did use irc mod's init.lua to setup insecure enviroment |
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Errante |
its strange because, while hacking rpc.lua into init.lua makes the code work, json.lua doenst need to be hacked into init.lua. but if I dettach rpc.lua's' code from init.lua, the code breaks saying json is nil |
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sfan5 |
that should definitely work if you did it correctly |
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Errante |
should I use insecure enviroment on every file using require or just init.lua? I didnt require=old_require |
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sfan5 |
every file that uses privileges functions need to make use of the insecure environment |
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sfan5 |
privileged* |
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Errante |
hmm |
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Errante |
but then, why doenst json.lua need to ie (json.lua requires luasocket) when using rpc.lua inside mod's init.lua with ie? |
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Errante |
wait |
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Errante |
sorry |
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Errante |
it doesnt require socket |
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Errante |
rpc requires it |
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Errante |
rpc.lua's ie is complaing its not a trusted mod, but the mod itself is set as trusted. should I add rpc as trusted mod? |
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also, it seens that irc mod's luairc doesnt make use of ie |
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Errante |
this is the code Im running https://github.com/craigmj/json4lua/ |
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sofar |
Errante: minetest can already serialize and deserialize json? |
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sofar |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L3072 |
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sofar |
oh IC, you probably need it as a dependency |
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Errante |
json4lua isnt for json, its for rpc. isnt dependency required for dependency between mods? json4lua isnt a mod, but a lua library |
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Errante |
lua is starting to annoy me |
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Krock |
if coder:get_player_name():lower() == "errante" then annoy() end |
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[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Bump minimal protocol version to 36 (#6319) b7ee608 https://git.io/v5nxV (2017-08-29T17:26:55Z) |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Formspec: Add options to set background color and opacity (fullscreen… 1b3e4e1 https://git.io/v5nxw (2017-08-29T17:25:16Z) |
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b7ee608 |
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jas_ |
https://youtu.be/gX-JTfRh0m4 <- some jumps to try. |
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sfan5 |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: minetest dcbl server sub-game - YouTube |
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jas_ |
it's always the same title |
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jas_ |
i shoulda said so, sorry |
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jas_ |
gonna be quiet on there this week heh |
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jas_ |
once the server restarts for whatever reason. see how long it goes before crash |
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jas_ |
actually that's the 2nd time i failed to build. first at 37% now at 83% |
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jas_ |
oh same spot, after a make clean |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Pushing typo fix introduced in b7ee608e70f8e031e3e01c9672bedb16efa648b8 35a4082 https://git.io/v5cfj (2017-08-29T18:21:14Z) |
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35a4082 |
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Errante |
Finally got jsonrpc4lua to work |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Network proto handlers/container fixes (#6334) 1d4a2a6 https://git.io/v5cTe (2017-08-29T18:37:54Z) |
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hello |
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Errante, I'd suggest looking in to the http API and deserialize_json if you'd like your mod to work without luarocks |
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rubenwardy |
I guess with RPC it'll be quite specific to a server though, in which case luarocks is fine |
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Errante |
rubenwardy: thx for your answer. I saw that http_request areonly executed at init time. if thats true, it doesnt help me |
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rubenwardy |
no, it should be anytime? |
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rubenwardy |
if it's not then there's a bug |
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rubenwardy |
you need to get a http API object at init time |
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rubenwardy |
but once you have it, you can make http requests anytime |
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rubenwardy |
local http_api = minetest.request_http_api() |
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rubenwardy |
you also need to give your mod the permission to get a http API object, in the minetest.conf |
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Errante |
at reference it says " Only works at init time and must be called from the mod's main scope (not from a function)." |
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MinetestBot |
[git] bendeutsch -> minetest/minetest: Documentation for 'slippery' node group (#6345) 43f9e94 https://git.io/v5cO0 (2017-08-29T19:48:43Z) |
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rubenwardy |
Errante, that's the API getter |
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rubenwardy |
not the request maker |
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Errante |
oh |
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rubenwardy |
you need to use the API getter to get an object which you then use to make requesrt |
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rubenwardy |
However, if you have jsonrpc4lua working then it may be worth just using that and rewriting relevant code to use our APIs later if needed |
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rubenwardy |
if you design your mod well, you should be able to separate the RPC code from everything else, to make that easier |
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Errante |
the biggest problem would be to implement rpc with http_api and json_parse |
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Errante |
indeed, Im separating the rpc part from my mod |
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Errante |
thats what I was thinking |
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Errante |
thx ruben |
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rubenwardy |
well, it depends what the mod is. If you're not going to release it, doesn't matter if you use LuaRocks. If it's a hardcore server mod, then any ops should be able to install and use luarocks |
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rubenwardy |
a weigh up of development time VS installation time / portability |
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Errante |
actually, I couldnt get luasockets installed through luarocks |
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Errante |
ive made it through fedora own repo which has lua-socket-compat or something like this |
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Errante |
I hope to make it easy for ops to run the mod |
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rubenwardy |
with lua rocks I found I needed to modify some package path to get it to find modules |
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rubenwardy |
however I can't remember if this was a mod or Lua standalone |
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rubenwardy |
I mainly intended "external possible with C libraries" by "LuaRocks", anyway |
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json.lua is gone |
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Errante |
it seens I cant simply replace http.request() with HTTPApiTable.fetch() |
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how should I make it so rpc.lua could use HTTPApiTable instead of luasocket's http.request()? |
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I do not understand HTTPApiTable.fetch's function HTTPRequest argument |
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Errante |
and how callbacks would fit into the code? |
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sfan5 |
Errante: the first arg is a table as defined like this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L4849 |
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sfan5 |
the callback is a function which will be called on completion/error with a single arg, a table like this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L4869 |
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Errante |
need to remember lua_api.txt xD |
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Errante |
thx sfan |
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ivanhercaz |
Hi everyone! |
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ivanhercaz |
I am interested in the creation and translation of pages in the official wikis of Minetest |
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ivanhercaz |
I read in the forum that I can request the account here. |
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H4mlet |
out of curiosity, which languages are you going to translate? |
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ivanhercaz |
To Spanish and my couple is going to translate to Portuguese :) |
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H4mlet |
cool, good luck then: it's a royal pain translating |
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ivanhercaz |
It always depends of the source text to translate. Sometimes I have read very clear English texts. |
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ivanhercaz |
But another there is many expressions that sounds fine in English, but in Spanish... |
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H4mlet |
hehe "lost in translation" |
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ivanhercaz |
hahaha |
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sfan5 |
you probably want to talk to Calinou |
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sfan5 |
but he's not here atm |
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ivanhercaz |
hi sfan5! |
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Calinou |
hi |
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ivanhercaz |
Thank you sfan5! |
| 21:50 |
ivanhercaz |
Hi Calinou ! Nice to know that you are here. |
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Calinou |
ivanhercaz: send me a private message with your email address, and desired username (note that the first character will be uppercase, due to MediaWiki limitations) |
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Calinou |
(/msg Calinou <message here>) |
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ivanhercaz |
Perfect Calinou! |
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rubenwardy |
How are you involved with Wikipedia? |
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rubenwardy |
ie: moderator, developer, contributor, etc |
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Santamarcanda |
Hello! |
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H4mlet |
rubenwardy I was wondering: is it better to use a nodebox cube or a mesh cube? I mean lagwise |
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ivanhercaz |
Welcome Santamarcanda! Calinou is who can make us the account |
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rubenwardy |
H4mlet, it depends |
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ivanhercaz |
You can send him a message with /msg Calinou your email your username |
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rubenwardy |
H4mlet, node boxes afaik don't optimize internal faces |
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Santamarcanda |
Oh, perfect! I will do my best to translate to my native lenguage, pt. |
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rubenwardy |
which is why stairs use mesh nodes, as they have hidden faces |
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ivanhercaz |
Hi rubenwardy, I am contributor and member of Wikimedia España. I usually collaborate in es-wiki, Commons and Wikidata |
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rubenwardy |
nice |
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ivanhercaz |
I collaborate in another languages, like English, Portuguese and Catalá, but less |
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rubenwardy |
would you happen to know why the ban BNCs? EliteBNC in particular |
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H4mlet |
I see, then in every case where there are hidden faces a mesh would be better i.e. saving the render time of non-visible faces |
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sfan5 |
huh he *is* here |
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rubenwardy |
from #wikipedia that is |
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sfan5 |
my mistake |
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rubenwardy |
H4mlet, only if you make the model do that |
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rubenwardy |
I'm not very familiar with the MapBlock mesh generation code (although I should become so at some point) so I'm not sure how it works |
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Calinou |
H4mlet: nodeboxes are rendered efficiently nowadays (they are internally converted to meshes by the engine) |
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Calinou |
however, since you can only place cuboids with nodeboes, you can't optimize meshes as much |
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Calinou |
and you can't have sloped surfaces :) |
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rubenwardy |
Are they optimised, Calinou? |
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rubenwardy |
or just a naive nodebox to mesh conversion |
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H4mlet |
got it. I was wondering 'cause I'd like to create some medieval style windows |
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Calinou |
rubenwardy: it's a naive nodebox-to-mesh conversion indeed; inner faces won't be removed |
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Calinou |
(this is probably possible, but hard) |
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ivanhercaz |
I don't know about rubenwardy :/ Maybe you can ask in #wikimedia |
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H4mlet |
I've tried doing nodebox to .obj using node box editor, but I think I'm missing something: they seem reversed like a glow |
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Calinou |
H4mlet: for meshes, Minetest accepts four formats: .b3d (binary), .x (text), .obj (text), .md2 (binary, obsolete) |
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Calinou |
.obj should be a good choice, but .b3d is smaller, IIRC |
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Calinou |
H4mlet: that might be because the normals are flipped |
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Calinou |
the normals define which faces are "inside" and which ones are "outside" |
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rubenwardy |
H4mlet, the obj exporter should only be used if you want to import it in blender |
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rubenwardy |
just export as a node box if you want MT to use it |
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H4mlet |
oh! that's it! |
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rubenwardy |
also, my obj convertor may have bugs |
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H4mlet |
thus -> obj -> blender -> b3d (using an exporter plugin) |
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rubenwardy |
yeah, but you should edit it in blender as well |
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rubenwardy |
otherwise it is pointless |
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H4mlet |
I'll look into it, might be useful for some basic shape (e.g. my smaller steps mod) |
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H4mlet |
thanks to both for the hints, they've shed some light |
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ivanhercaz |
Perfect Calinou! Account confirmed. Now I am going to try what I can. I have a good knowledge of wikimarkup and templates if I have any doubt I will ask here :) |
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Calinou |
it's ok :) |
| 22:03 |
Calinou |
I know a bit about wiki markup, not much but I worked a lot on some wikis |
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Calinou |
(including the Minetest wiki, but also the Minecraft wiki, for example) |
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rubenwardy |
I know (and prefer) mark down |
| 22:04 |
Calinou |
yeah, but wiki markup can do more |
| 22:04 |
rubenwardy |
so using mediawiki is a little confusing at times |
| 22:04 |
rubenwardy |
true, it's more specialised |
| 22:05 |
rubenwardy |
loooll |
| 22:06 |
rubenwardy |
"`nodebox` -- See below. (**Experimental!**)" |
| 22:06 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L888 |
| 22:06 |
rubenwardy |
> Experimental |
| 22:08 |
H4mlet |
experimental? |
| 22:08 |
rubenwardy |
it may have been experimental to start off with |
| 22:08 |
rubenwardy |
but it's definitely not by now |
| 22:08 |
H4mlet |
afaik they've been around since years |
| 22:09 |
rubenwardy |
eyah |
| 22:09 |
H4mlet |
oh well, documentation archaeology |
| 22:15 |
ivanhercaz |
Thank you to H4mlet, sfan5, rubenwardy and Calinou for the help! See you here (or in the wiki)! |
| 22:15 |
H4mlet |
:) see you! |
| 22:15 |
Calinou |
you're welcome :) |
| 22:16 |
rubenwardy |
:D ivanhercaz |
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Errante |
Im with difficulty on figuring out how to translate rpc.call function to HTTPApiTable |
| 23:01 |
Errante |
it doesnt seens to be straightforward |
| 23:02 |
Errante |
it uses this ltn12 thing |
| 23:02 |
Errante |
true |
| 23:03 |
Errante |
https://pastebin.com/5iP0ZUCJ |
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Errante |
rpc.call uses luasocket's socket.http |
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Errante |
ircmod uses luasocket |
| 23:12 |
Errante |
but not for http |
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Errante |
think I got it |
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