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00:07 Fixer i'm -6000 deep under and i still have blue fog :S
00:29 nolsen Fixer: Any difference at -6001?
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01:10 sloantothebone Hi
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03:00 ALANDSTRONK test
03:01 ALANDSTRONK k
03:02 ALANDSTRONK anyone here
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03:06 ALANDSTRONK is anyone here
03:06 ALANDSTRONK test 2
03:07 ALANDSTRONK test over
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08:33 Blekpug Can I easily change how many lumps a stone with coal has?
08:33 Blekpug https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/nodes.lua
08:33 Blekpug minetest.register_node("default:stone_with_coal", {
08:34 Blekpug drop = 'default:coal_lump',
08:36 Blekpug In the player inventory description, they simply put a number after the item, i recall. 'default:coal_lump 2' perhaps would work
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08:44 Blekpug Is there some mod which gives the player a light source on himself?  Something like if carrying a torch, you can see what is near.
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09:07 XeonSquared Blekpug, perhaps default:coal_lump:2 maybe
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09:22 RealBadAngel Blekpug, technic has torchlight
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09:39 fatman hi all... any one know what this erro means? google had no hits ::: [MeshUpdate]: FIXME: MeshCollector::append() called with numIndices=148437 (limit 65535)
09:41 Blekpug fatman: what version?
09:42 Blekpug drop = 'default:coal_lump 9', // still returned 1 lump . // drop = 'default:coal_lump:9', // is an unknown object
09:42 fatman 4.13
09:45 Krock What's the complete node/entity definition?
09:45 Krock "<mod>:<item> <amount>" works fine
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09:48 Blekpug Yes, it works. I was in creative mode, so it only gave me 1.
09:51 Krock kinda useless to have more than 1 there, yes
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11:59 Jordach !tell PilzAdam my server auto redirects to https:// automatically now http://i.imgur.com/eecQikV.png
11:59 MinetestBot Jordach: yeah, sure, whatever
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13:04 Blekpug I seek clay. Is it underneath sand? Is it sometimes on the surface (of the sea bottom) ?  I know it is only under water.
13:04 Krock Search it near sandy coasts
13:04 Krock In other words: Flat sea with beaches
13:05 Calinou clay is near water, around sea level, you sometimes need to dig to find it
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13:43 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default: Slightly reduce alpha of water post effect colour c66a98b http://git.io/v03hF (2015-12-12T13:42:54Z)
13:47 Fixer ._.
13:47 Fixer corpse movement detected
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14:57 Blekpug Clay is not easy to find on map seed 0 mapgen 6 .
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15:43 Blekpug If anyone wants to host the download for Growing Trees Mod elsewhere than MediaFire, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=978
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15:52 swift110-phone Hey
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16:03 Viper Hey!
16:03 Viper is there a mod to limit Y ?
16:04 Viper so players can't go below -10.000
16:04 Obani Viper, bedrock
16:04 Viper Obani:  thanks i check it out
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16:07 Viper Obani:  will it work on existing world?
16:07 kaeza o/
16:08 Viper hi
16:09 Krock Viper, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L1021
16:10 Viper Krock:  some players place travelnet on last node, then map.sqlite get corupted
16:11 Krock Viper, did you report this bug on github yet?
16:12 Viper Krock:  iam not 100% sure if travelnet cause it
16:12 Krock If it's actually a bug, then it's caused by any node (perhaps just with metadata), not just travelnet
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16:14 Viper yeah once i placed gravel same happens
16:15 Viper its caused by mt or a mod?
16:18 Krock map corruptions belong to the core
16:19 STHGOM has anyone had a problem with their server not showing in the public list, even if the terminal says its annoucing?
16:20 Krock ...
16:20 Viper i had 5 spots like that, fixed now new one appear
16:23 Viper that explains not showing up?!
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16:34 rubenwardy Trying to do ludumdare, but Atom and Chrome keep freezing up at the same time, requiring a restart...
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17:20 dadix please help , I have a server installed on my laptop. I can login with ma username and password from the GUI server,   but when if I open the server only from terminal and and I want to connect only with the client it give error: wrong passord
17:24 Blekpug Clay is harder to find than Meese
17:29 rubenwardy glitchy LD34 gravity thingy: https://youtu.be/yLlPMAzwElc
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17:40 davegoopot Help.  Sorry for the newbie question:  I'm running a minetest server on ubuntu (/usr/games/minetestserver) when any play connects and looks at their inventory the have no ability to get items.  It is in creative mode (I think)
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17:42 ElectronLibre davegoopot: Try granting the "creative" privilege to a player and tell them to try taking an item from the creative inventory.
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17:43 davegoopot Working on that...
17:43 ElectronLibre Otherwise, if you are saying that they cannot dig/pick up items, remember that they need the "interact" privilege for that.
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17:46 davegoopot "interact" is working fine
17:46 davegoopot Just there are no items list when then press "i"
17:47 Obani davegoopot, you are in creative mode ?
17:47 Obani Ingar, could you send me your new footsteps pack for MT ?
17:47 Obani (the link of the forum topic)
17:47 Obani ops found it
17:47 Obani :)
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17:49 davegoopot I think /usr/games/minetestserver is not picking up my minetest.conf file.  Presume there is a flag for that somewhere...googling
17:50 Obani davegoopot, I think you should be abled to launch minetestserver with a custom cfg file, no ?
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17:52 davegoopot --config /path/to/minetest.conf worked for the config
17:52 davegoopot No luck getting the items list
17:52 davegoopot player does have "creative" privs
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17:59 Obani Is there a guide on how to use "sounds" folder in Minetest ?
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18:02 c55 hi
18:02 Ingar Obani: the code definse what soudns to load
18:03 Ingar if there's more than one (footstep.1.ogg footstep.2.ogg) then it picks one at random
18:03 Obani Ingar
18:03 Obani I'm talking about client side sounds
18:03 Obani Like texture packs
18:04 Obani But for sounds
18:05 Ingar ah
18:06 Obani RealBadAngel ?
18:06 Ingar I have no idea
18:06 Ingar I replace the default ones
18:06 c55 does anyone know how to contact to the admin of the "ThatGreameGuy's UNSTABLE Skyblock Server"?
18:07 Obani c55, if he is on the forum, he's got another user name
18:07 Obani I don't know
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18:09 davegoopot Fixed it.  world.mt said it was creative, but I had to put creative = 1 in the minetest.conf file also
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18:13 c55 ok
18:13 c55 thanks and bye
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18:23 Obani sfan5, RealBadAngel , do you have any tips on how to use "sounds" folder ? (client-side)
18:24 Obani Is it just limited to main_menu music ?
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18:46 Viper any tools to fix corupted map?
18:48 rubenwardy Post your mod requests/ideas here - 1327 posts
18:48 rubenwardy Just ten more...
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18:54 Krock :D
18:58 MinetestBot [git] sofar -> minetest/minetest_game: Add a separate image for a written book. b57ecb9 http://git.io/v0GCn (2015-12-12T19:56:56+01:00)
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19:31 Blekpug Funny. Looks like the shadow of the sun is being cast by the light source.
19:31 * twoelk finally is able to connect to the internet and peeks in to see all the big minetest activity
19:32 Blekpug I cheated and flew around (1000,1000) , (-1000,1000) , (1000,-1000) , (-1000,-1000) . There is no clay. If that is right then right is wrong.
19:33 Blekpug Minetest 0.4.13. MapGen v6
19:33 twoelk rather you will find the opposite of left - at least most of the time
19:34 Blekpug twoelk: huh?
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19:43 * twoelk sipps some more gluehwein and puts up his googles to dive for some clay
19:45 * sfan5 gives twoelk an ü
19:50 * Krock gives twoelk &uuml;
19:51 twoelk falsche tastatur :-(
19:54 twoelk ü?
19:54 twoelk hurray for charactermap
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19:58 twoelk hm the gift from sfan5 doesn't display correctly in KVIrc but it is rendered correctly in the logs ...
19:58 sfan5 fix your software
19:58 sfan5 it's 2015
19:59 * twoelk dives into some settings and sipps more glühwein
20:01 twoelk 2015? not for long anymore
20:03 Krock How do you know that?
20:04 Krock ^ might be the dumbest question of today
20:04 Krock s/of/from/
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20:09 * twoelk is gonna strain his luck and try and join a server with this ancient laptop and this wierd contraption he wired to get some sort of internet in this - actually where is this place I stranded?
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20:13 twoelk hmm the minimap is mostly black , should I  be concerned?
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21:25 dadix please help , I have a server installed on my laptop. I can login with ma username and password from the GUI server,   but when if I open the server only from terminal and and I want to connect only with the client it give error: wrong passord
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21:51 ElectronLibre dadix: Are you sure the terminal and the GUI are running the same world?
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21:52 dadix yes
21:52 dadix I see that messege on the terminal
21:53 dadix terminal with the server
21:53 ElectronLibre Well that is weird. What version are you using?
21:54 Fixer ._.
21:55 dadix latest version
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21:57 ElectronLibre 0.4.13 then. Have you tried logging in with the GUI, then use /setpassword <user> <passwd> and try again with the server running in a terminal?
21:59 dadix I don't understand this "then use /setpassword <user> <passwd> and try again with the server running in a terminal?"
22:00 dadix "/setpassord" is a command line?
22:00 ElectronLibre When you are logged in, use the chatcommand /setpassword dadix yourpassword, then shut minetest down, restart the server in a terminal and retry.
22:02 dadix no
22:02 dadix I try now
22:03 ElectronLibre Ok, I have a solution, quite radical.
22:03 ElectronLibre Shut the server down, edit the auth.txt file in your world's directory and remove the line starting with your nickname;
22:06 dadix is not working and now I cant login even with the GUI
22:06 dadix lol
22:07 ElectronLibre I seriously can't understand what's going on..
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22:08 ElectronLibre Have you installed both minetestserver and minetest from you system's packet repository?
22:08 dadix ok I will delete what you sey
22:08 dadix yes
22:08 dadix from a ppa
22:09 twoelk maybe create a new world, and replace the map.sqlite with the old one
22:09 twoelk keep backups of every stage of course
22:09 ElectronLibre You should also copy env_meta.txt and the "players" directory.
22:09 dadix lol
22:10 dadix I am a begginer
22:10 twoelk so was everybody at some point in time
22:11 ElectronLibre Indeed. Through failures we learn.
22:12 dadix I delete what you sey from that txt file
22:12 ElectronLibre Oh, so you hadn't tried the manual removal of your line from auth.txt yet.
22:14 dadix that line is now like this
22:14 dadix user:server,areas,shout,fly,password,bring,interact,teleport,ban,noclip,privs,fast,basic_privs,home,rollback,areas_high_limit,give,settime
22:15 dadix :kick:27628628
22:15 dadix and a number
22:15 ElectronLibre Just removing the line should work.
22:15 dadix all the line?
22:15 ElectronLibre Only the line with your nickname, leave the others as they are (if there is only one line you can also remove the file).
22:17 dadix ok is working again
22:19 dadix so  I repeat what you saind above
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22:19 dadix now I see in the terminal my user is up to server is login  but the client shout down
22:20 dadix 00:20:14: ACTION[ServerThread]: dadix [79.114.110.156] joins game. List of players: dadix
22:20 dadix from the terminal
22:21 ElectronLibre You mean your client crashes when joining?
22:21 dadix yes
22:21 dadix very fast
22:21 ElectronLibre ._.
22:22 dadix is like is opened second time
22:22 ElectronLibre I think you should try updating from the PPA repository.
22:22 dadix I updated
22:22 dadix is latest version
22:23 ElectronLibre Well your only chance is to compile to the latest version.
22:24 ElectronLibre Does someone offer .deb packages (or zip archives) somewhere with the latest version of Minetest? That would be cool to have, as it seems a lot of people have to compile it to get the latest stable version.
22:25 dadix is like when I open first the server from terminal and after that I try to connect from GUI to the same server
22:25 dadix the GUI version will crush
22:25 dadix I have version 13
22:25 ElectronLibre Are you using the client tab on the GUI? If you attempt to start the same server a second time is will crash.
22:26 dadix yes
22:26 rubenwardy https://www.patreon.com/rubenwardy
22:27 dadix so how to star the client ?
22:27 dadix not from GIU?
22:27 dadix GIU
22:27 ElectronLibre GUI.
22:27 ElectronLibre The client is the program called 'minetest' which has a Graphical User Interface.
22:28 dadix yes
22:29 dadix so first I open the server from terminal with command :minetest
22:29 ElectronLibre If you are typing 'minetest' you launch the client.
22:30 dadix than I open the minetest GUI  , and I go in client tab
22:30 dadix sory minetestserver
22:30 ElectronLibre Ok.
22:30 ElectronLibre So far you're doing it right.
22:31 dadix and in client tab I put username, passord my ip and password
22:32 ElectronLibre And when you press 'enter' or 'connect' the graphical client closes, is that right?
22:32 dadix yrs
22:33 dadix yes
22:33 ElectronLibre After it has finished the connection process of course.
22:33 dadix but in terminal I see is loged
22:33 ElectronLibre If it just closes without any warning message or anything else from the client, the it is a bug in the game.
22:33 dadix 00:20:14: ACTION[ServerThread]: dadix [79.114.110.156] joins game. List of players: dadix
22:34 dadix so how only me have this bug ?
22:34 dadix :)
22:35 ElectronLibre I would recommend you checking on the project's bugtracker if someone has already resported such an error, first, then updating minetest as close as possible to the latest modification on minetest's code, and wait for someone to fix that.
22:35 ElectronLibre Are you using the stable PPA? Or a nightly PPA? (I'm not even sure there is a nightly PPA)
22:36 dadix http://ppa.launchpad.net/minetestdevs/stable/ubuntu
22:36 dadix trusty
22:36 ElectronLibre In any case I see only one option for you : compiling the game yourself (either the latest stable or the latest dev version).
22:36 ElectronLibre I'm not very informed on Ubuntu's version names. What is trusty's version number?
22:37 dadix 14.04
22:37 dadix lts
22:38 ElectronLibre Well, I think you're going to have to compile it yourself.
22:38 dadix I am running Trisquel distribution
22:38 ElectronLibre Oh.
22:38 dadix is based on ubuntu 14.04 but without blobs
22:38 ElectronLibre I think you can still get the needed libraries.
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22:38 ElectronLibre Oh I see.
22:39 Fixer man, servers are so slow
22:39 Fixer we really need that client-side lua
22:39 twoelk try calinou's one line script for debian based systems
22:39 ElectronLibre Here, enough to get started : http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest
22:39 dadix where is it ?
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22:40 dadix ok thanks
22:40 dadix but is too much
22:41 dadix I will wait another version
22:41 dadix :)
22:41 ElectronLibre In fact you could try compiling the dev version.
22:42 ElectronLibre You seem to be using the stable version. Hopefully, your probably would have been fixed between the release of 0.4.13 and today.
22:42 ElectronLibre *your problem
22:42 ElectronLibre If it was not, then you will have to report and wait.
22:43 dadix ok
22:43 dadix thank you for help
22:43 twoelk https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=3837 the easiest way on debian
22:43 ElectronLibre You're welcome.
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23:08 twoelk gonna visit a christmas-market tomorrow at a place that translates to "Heavens Gate". What shall I do if the gatekeeper is called Peter?
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