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cornernote |
so who here owns a tech-deck ? |
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cornernote |
they are loads of fun when you're supposed to be working |
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Voronwe |
Hi, i seem to have lost a bones block, any way to locate it inside a server? After extensive search, I cannot find it. |
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Voronwe |
I looked in the various logfiles, cant seem to locate where I died.... |
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Voronwe |
would it be possible to look for it in the database file (it's my singleplayer server) |
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kaeza |
Voronwe, if you dug some blocks before dying, you can try to look for the last odd location |
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kaeza |
dug or placed |
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gmaxwell |
the debug log should show the coordinates where you died, I though. |
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Voronwe |
yeah, unfortunately I've been in and outside the game so often that I simply cannot locate where I was last! I suspect I tried to teleport directly some time ago, then died so often that it isn't there? |
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Voronwe |
is there anyway to locate bones blocks say within the map database file itself? |
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Voronwe |
I thought perhaps I'd use minetest mapper, but how can I determine what shows up in the map image? |
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kaeza |
look for something like "PLAYER damaged by N hp at (X,Y,Z)" in the logs |
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Voronwe |
Yeah I think that may be the thing to do - I'll just try to keep track of every singl place i might have died, and just teleport through each one by one. |
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kaeza |
by the way, you can disable bones too, if you don't like that feature |
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Voronwe |
It just occurred to me that maybe, if I set a colors.txt file containing only bones entry it would pinpoint the location, unless bones don't show up in minetest mapper? |
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Voronwe |
hmm, sometimes it's more hassle to have bones, i admit, but it makes one focus on staying alive if you use mobs mods |
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kaeza |
well, that's another option, assuming bones are in the surface |
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est31 |
Voronwe, can't you look into your debug.txt? |
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Voronwe |
ah they aren't I am fairly sure they're underground somewhere, probably near lava. I so hate lava. Arggh! |
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est31 |
just grep for "damaged" |
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Voronwe |
grep which file, debug.log? |
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est31 |
debug.txt |
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est31 |
its in the directory you started minetest in |
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Voronwe |
yeah I found it gets so large I archived it - argh. Is there no way to search the db file itself? What format is sqlite anyway, is it open documented format? |
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est31 |
there are file openers for sqlite yes |
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est31 |
but that wont help you much |
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est31 |
a good bet would perhaps really be to hack on minetestmapper to search for that particular node. |
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* gmaxwell |
prods at xanadu and finds it down. :( |
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Voronwe |
well, it was really just a faint hope, because I couldn't work out where I am between ground and probably about 1000 blocksground to cover down somewhere between 1000 and -1000 each X,Y. Thats some |
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Voronwe |
anyway, I'll try as you suggest, they are helpful suggestions. Thanks very much. |
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Voronwe |
there appear to be no counts of "damaged" in my debug.txt file! |
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Voronwe |
Considering the situation, wondering whether it's really worth seeking it for a singleplayer or just scrap the world and start over? I'm sure it shouldn't be this much effort for stuff |
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est31 |
bureau, buero, man french spelling is hard. |
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rubenwardy |
fuck yes |
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rubenwardy |
I got my grades! |
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rubenwardy |
so many cringes in this topic |
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rubenwardy |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=13009 |
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rubenwardy |
Suggestions? https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/2fc9f642a38882caf24c |
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rubenwardy |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: rubenwardy_bounties.md · GitHub |
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rubenwardy |
note, that isn't in affect yet |
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CraigyDavi |
Nice idea rubenwardy, I'd like to see those features |
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diemartin |
have you noticed that every feking program and their mother want to be connected to the internet now? I mean really, it's obvious that an e-mail, IRC, browser, etc need to be connected, but srsly every fucking program wants to auto-update for no fuking reason |
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diemartin |
</rant> |
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kaeza |
and don't even get me started on "web technologies" (looking at you, Atom) |
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kaeza |
I guess lamefun was right after all... creepy |
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kaeza |
oh, and also, mornings |
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ElectronLibre |
Just a question kaeza, what program(s?) where you refering to when you complained about them wanting to connect to the internet at all costs? |
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VanessaE |
kaeza: I think you can blame windows/microsloth for not implementing a reliable package manager ala apt :P |
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Halamix2 |
I heard that Win 10 have package manager |
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Halamix2 |
and it's build-io one, not chocolatee |
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Halamix2 |
*chocolatey |
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Halamix2 |
yup, http://www.howtogeek.com/200334/windows-10-includes-a-linux-style-package-manager-named-oneget/ |
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VanessaE |
too little, too late :P |
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Halamix2 |
yup |
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kaeza |
ElectronLibre, pretty much everything you download has some sort of auto-update, be it messaging software, text editors, image viewers, whatever |
| 15:07 |
ElectronLibre |
I see. |
| 15:08 |
ElectronLibre |
Now I understand. *looks at CTCP VERSION* |
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T4im |
iptables solves that issue partly :| |
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T4im |
ipsets required too, at least with the browsers.. you heared about google installing proprietary spyware into open source chromium on linux? |
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T4im |
(I suppose the proprietary version has it in there anyway, but noone expects privacy with that anyway) |
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kaeza |
I wouldn't complain if they just put a "check for updates" menu item or some other widget that takes you to a webpage. but let ME decide if an update is worth it |
| 15:13 |
kaeza |
particularly since I'm on limited bandwidth cap and can't afford e.g. chrome downloading 100s of MB per day |
| 15:14 |
ElectronLibre |
I think they consider that the average user is too stupid to check regulary for updates. |
| 15:14 |
Krock |
hello people |
| 15:14 |
ElectronLibre |
Or too lazy. |
| 15:14 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 15:14 |
ElectronLibre |
Hi. |
| 15:15 |
T4im |
I would be more concerned with what they upload, kaeza :P |
| 15:15 |
ElectronLibre |
That's why these softwares always end up doing things automatically without any order from the user.. |
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T4im |
and they have proven to abuse it: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/google-was-downloading-audio-listeners-onto-computers-without-consent-say-chromium-users-10335111.html |
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ElectronLibre |
What is shocking is that people are still shocked about such things. |
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T4im |
I don't know.. they aren't shocked enough for me... they got used to it and shrug it off |
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T4im |
rational people would run from windows 10 now, but soon they end up defending it instead |
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ElectronLibre |
Not everybody understands that a big corporation spying on you is NOT normal. |
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Halamix2 |
I bought a laptop with Win 10, I usually work on my Win 7 computer and on laptop I find it more enjoyable to work on Xubuntu, I maybe will stop using win 10 but for now it's too early |
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T4im |
you have read their ToS and "privacy" terms, right? |
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ElectronLibre |
Nobody does. |
| 15:22 |
T4im |
I did |
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ElectronLibre |
(Normally) |
| 15:23 |
T4im |
and I don't even use windows :p |
| 15:23 |
T4im |
it was a too hilarious opportunity to skip |
| 15:23 |
ElectronLibre |
Since I upgraded my old laptop I had not used since months to Win10 I only want to wipe everything off and install a GNU/Linux distro. |
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Halamix2 |
by default they can collect data about e.g. how you write or speak, can send your wifi passwords to your skype friends (it's more complicated, by default you need to do some work in order to activate it) |
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T4im |
they can do more :p |
| 15:25 |
Halamix2 |
on default ypou have one DI for ads, which means personalized ads |
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VanessaE |
well I always tell people I don't trust windows, main reason I don't run it. Now there's proof of precisely why I don't. |
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ElectronLibre |
That's a telescreen (don't know how it was in original english text in 1984) in your laptop. |
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Halamix2 |
but what can they do very bad that cannot be disabled? |
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T4im |
for example, you allow them to go through all your files and delete them if certain requirements are met |
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VanessaE |
ElectronLibre: the same. |
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ElectronLibre |
And people are willing to use it. |
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T4im |
basicly its faster to tell you that they havent allowed themselves to delete files of your own creation.. |
| 15:26 |
ElectronLibre |
That's just 1984 entering the real world. |
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Halamix2 |
sometimes they have no choice |
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ElectronLibre |
Halamix2: You always have another choice. |
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ElectronLibre |
But sometimes it means that you must stop doing things you used to do. |
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Halamix2 |
even in work where you must run certain programs that are uncompatible wth wine on PC that have only win 10 installed? |
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T4im |
prior versions where "security wise highly suspicious " the newest should be treated like economical espionage if anyone places it into a company but the leadership themselves.. |
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T4im |
the result being, that they keep sticking with old versions .P |
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ElectronLibre |
Halamix2: You have another choice, but you have to sacrify things. |
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ElectronLibre |
Sticking with the old Win8 or Win7 remains the best solution to me if you need to have a Windows OS on your computer and do not want Win10. |
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est31 |
thats the problem about closed source |
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est31 |
you have no choice |
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est31 |
here, if a dev is angry they just fork off |
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Halamix2 |
how about using Xubuntu for work and win 10 for games etc.? |
| 15:31 |
est31 |
and try their luck |
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T4im |
Halamix2: they might prevent you from booting linux.. |
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Halamix2 |
well, I don't think this is real threat |
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T4im |
they can just as well read data from there |
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Halamix2 |
from ext4? |
| 15:36 |
Halamix2 |
finally |
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* T4im |
shrugs |
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T4im |
there's the other issue published a few days ago |
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T4im |
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2965872/components-processors/design-flaw-in-intel-processors-opens-door-to-rootkits-researcher-says.html |
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T4im |
I'd imagine it to be easier for malware to target windows and get access to these facilities |
| 15:42 |
T4im |
'ol vulnerability from '93 ;) still active |
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CWz |
Latest dev seems to like crashing more |
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est31 |
windows can open ext4????? |
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est31 |
really? |
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VanessaE |
CWz: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3047 |
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Halamix2 |
not really |
| 16:02 |
est31 |
sorry for that bug btw |
| 16:03 |
est31 |
stupid mistake |
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VanessaE |
est31: actually there used to be an ext2/3 driver. |
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Halamix2 |
at least it couldn't last time when I telephoned to MS |
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Halamix2 |
but not official one driver |
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Halamix2 |
and writing was somewhat broken |
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MinetestBot |
[git] celeron55 -> minetest/minetest: Fix segfault caused by a8e238ed06ee8285ed4459e9deda3117419837f6 def274a http://git.io/v3Km0 (2015-08-13T19:02:48+03:00) |
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Halamix2 |
http://www.tenforums.com/general-discussion/3348-windows-10-go-handles-linux-ext3-4-file-system.html |
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Halamix2 |
It looks like Windows 10 Enterpirise To Go can read and write ext3/4 |
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est31 |
it can be very well be a fake |
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Halamix2 |
yup |
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Halamix2 |
maybe I should call MS tommorrow? |
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T4im |
well consider how to go is being used; makes actually sense there for them (but not security wise for the host computer) |
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T4im |
linux live-systems often have support for ntfs and fat32 as well |
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est31 |
fat32 is a must |
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Jordach |
at least my laptop won't have this problem - it'll be pure Linux |
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T4im |
well, yea, true |
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est31 |
its universal usb and sd card standard |
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amadin |
can i migrate from redis to leveldb or mysql? |
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T4im |
Jordach: great :) |
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T4im |
amadin: there's a --migrate parameter in the minetest binary |
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T4im |
to migrate from one backend to another |
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amadin |
it not work for migrate from redis |
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est31 |
amadin, most likely your error is not a redis problem |
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amadin |
and so? |
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amadin |
i turn off server i think forever |
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amadin |
because if i try migrate from redis to leveldb or mysql i get error |
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VanessaE |
amadin: there's another way if you can make migrate work: start a client and use local map saving mode |
| 16:23 |
VanessaE |
explore the entire map (well, all that has been built on) |
| 16:24 |
VanessaE |
once you're done, close both, make a backup of both the original redis world and the client-saved result, and use the client's copy, which will be in sqlite, to run your server from there on |
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VanessaE |
this method was used, in multiple sessions, to capture all of the map from Redcrab to create Silvercrab, since the former is basically dead now. |
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amadin |
i not undestand you |
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VanessaE |
best I can do to explain. |
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amadin |
how i must explore map? |
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VanessaE |
walk around? |
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VanessaE |
literally explore? |
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amadin |
and what i must do while i explore map? what i must see on here? |
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amadin |
on map |
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VanessaE |
just walk around. |
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amadin |
i walk every day |
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est31 |
you will have to explore the whole world |
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VanessaE |
make sure you have seen everything on the map |
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amadin |
i undestand |
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amadin |
map must not have not explored places? |
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VanessaE |
you can ignore areas of the map that no one's built on |
| 16:28 |
VanessaE |
you're only interested in the structures |
| 16:28 |
VanessaE |
but you have to make sure you see *everything* that is important or it won't be saved. |
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VanessaE |
and that's assuming you turned local saving on |
| 16:29 |
VanessaE |
but ahead of all this, you should keep trying to get your map to migrate properly. |
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amadin |
map is too big and players build mome sometimes very far away |
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Krock2 |
<3 BSoD |
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VanessaE |
or file a bug report if it'ds impossible. |
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Sketch2 |
you'll want to make sure you have the same map-gen key fro both |
| 16:30 |
amadin |
so i can't migrate from redis to another database? or it's possible? |
| 16:30 |
amadin |
because i will not explore all my map - it's too big |
| 16:31 |
Sketch2 |
nobody, that I know of, has made a converter |
| 16:31 |
amadin |
and please remove from wiki redis support |
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| 16:32 |
amadin |
or make converter |
| 16:33 |
amadin |
vanessa if i explored map, how i can save the client-side map? |
| 16:33 |
VanessaE |
amadin: it's a minetest.conf setting you put in your client |
| 16:33 |
VanessaE |
enable_local_map_saving = true |
| 16:34 |
amadin |
i undestand |
| 16:34 |
VanessaE |
the results will be dumped into <minetest>/worlds/ I think named for the server they came from |
| 16:34 |
amadin |
so if i set fast speed i can do this |
| 16:34 |
VanessaE |
possibly. |
| 16:34 |
amadin |
huh |
| 16:34 |
VanessaE |
but if the map is really large, you need to consider getting the --migrate option to work. |
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Sketch2 |
yeah, running and flying would be ok |
| 16:35 |
est31 |
I honestly dont understand why redis conversion doesnt work |
| 16:35 |
est31 |
I mean it should be possible to write a generic conversion routine |
| 16:35 |
amadin |
one minute wait i put here an migrate error |
| 16:35 |
est31 |
just read all mapblocks, and save them |
| 16:35 |
est31 |
end of story |
| 16:35 |
Sketch2 |
I agree est31 |
| 16:35 |
est31 |
the only additional function needed, is to list all mapblocks |
| 16:36 |
amadin |
i think clien-side map save for players 70% of buildings |
| 16:37 |
Sketch2 |
did the developers of those databases create a converter? |
| 16:37 |
Sketch2 |
or are there any open-source solutions that might help in that regard? |
| 16:37 |
amadin |
i think with client-side map i can copy map from other servers ;) |
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VanessaE |
amadin: that's correct. |
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VanessaE |
est31: that's actually what the server is already supposedly doing |
| 16:40 |
amadin |
create full copy from other server and run it ;))))) |
| 16:40 |
VanessaE |
but I guess redis relies on an external database server so things may be a tad different there. |
| 16:40 |
VanessaE |
amadin: you could do that yes, but you will surely get yelled at by the operators of the original servers. |
| 16:40 |
amadin |
now i compile minetest again and put here erorr from migrate |
| 16:40 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 16:40 |
VanessaE |
put it in a pastebin |
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amadin |
error have 3 -4 worlds |
| 16:42 |
VanessaE |
ok. |
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Sketch2 |
I'm seeing some notes here that might begin a conversion - https://github.com/antirez/redis/issues/288 |
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amadin |
If i try migrate to leveldb i get - "error segmentation" in my own language (not english) so i think it write OS |
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amadin |
but migrate from mysql to leveldb worked fine |
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VanessaE |
oh, segfault eh |
| 16:56 |
amadin |
So i can wait some days if anybody add conversion |
| 16:57 |
Calinou |
use LANG=C to force console output to be English |
| 16:57 |
Calinou |
eg. LANG=C ./minetest |
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sd1001 |
Is $LANG enough? I've always set $LC_ALL instead |
| 16:58 |
Calinou |
works for me |
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Calinou |
it's ugly though |
| 16:58 |
Calinou |
(you should not set LANG=C, but rather LANG=en_US.utf-8 or whatever |
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amadin |
Anybody else use redis on public server whith 10-20 players online? |
| 17:02 |
freelikegnu |
I'm using the default sqlite with sync turned off, I should probably witch to level db... |
| 17:02 |
Calinou |
LevelDB is not necessarily faster |
| 17:02 |
Calinou |
in singleplayer it'll feel clunkier |
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VanessaE |
I use leveldb on my servers. |
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freelikegnu |
I pretty much only do MP |
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Sketch2 |
MySQL Workbench is supposed to help with database migration - http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/ |
| 17:06 |
Sketch2 |
don't know the specifics, as I've never used it |
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freelikegnu |
sounds painful |
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Sketch2 |
I agree. Most likely it'll output to something like plaintext CSV or JSON, then you'd need to go from there to the other type. |
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amadin |
how to enable mysql and redis, because if i enabled redis, then mysql turn off while compilation |
| 17:10 |
amadin |
sqlite i mean |
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Sketch2 |
I'd imagine it's doable, but it'll prolly inflate the size like 5x, so you'd need a ton of space during the conversion |
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kahrl |
amadin: AFAIK there isn't even a way to compile without sqlite |
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amadin |
i ready |
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Robert_Zenz |
I seem to have trouble building/compiling Minetest on 64bit Linux. Looks like the build is confused and tries to build a 32bit version. Does somebody know how to build it correctly on 64bit? |
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* Sketch2 |
wonders if Player1 was selling Viagra at his shop |
| 17:20 |
Calinou |
Robert_Zenz, it should automatically be built for 64-bit... what distribution do you use? and which instructions are you following? |
| 17:21 |
Calinou |
if on Debian or Ubuntu, try https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=3837 |
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Robert_Zenz |
Calinou, Ubuntu 14.04. I'm following the build instructions from the dev wiki. |
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amadin |
follow instructions from README |
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Robert_Zenz |
Calinou, amadin, okay, a little more specific: http://pastebin.com/0WYmzP2C |
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est31 |
Robert_Zenz, do you somehow cross compile? |
| 17:26 |
Robert_Zenz |
est31, I do not intent to, if that answers the question. |
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est31 |
it seems that it wants to use 32 bit |
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amadin |
robert you must run cmake from /minetest direcory not from src |
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Robert_Zenz |
amadin, the full path is ~/src/minetest ... src is the directory in my home where I keep sources. |
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Robert_Zenz |
est31, I couldn't find any documentation on how to choose the target platform...do you know how? |
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est31 |
Robert_Zenz, which os? |
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Robert_Zenz |
est31, Ubuntu 14.04 64bit. |
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est31 |
Robert_Zenz, usually, that doesn't need additional config |
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est31 |
did you switch in the past? |
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est31 |
e.g. from 32 bit to 64 bit? |
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CWz |
is it me or do jungletree look diffrent then they used to a a month ago |
| 17:34 |
Robert_Zenz |
est31, yes, I have switched from 32bit-pae to 64bit the other day and wanted now to recompile Minetest. |
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est31 |
Robert_Zenz, have you tried a clean re-clone? |
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est31 |
cmake might be confused by the switch |
| 17:35 |
est31 |
it has cache files |
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est31 |
those have the paths hardcoded |
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Robert_Zenz |
est31, so I gues running cmake does not start it from scratch, huh? Will try. |
| 17:37 |
est31 |
no, it only loads that cache if present |
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kahrl |
I don't know what amadin is doing wrong, I just attempted a redis migration for the first time and it worked without issues |
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Robert_Zenz |
est31, that did it, Thank you very much, I thought that running cmake would reconfigure *everything*, mistake on my end. |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi all |
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luizrpgluiz |
TBC_x: are you going to be responsible for the multiworld or multiverse in minetest? |
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[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: game.cpp: Update cached settings a670ecf http://git.io/v36JR (2015-08-13T20:05:53+02:00) |
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[git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: minimap: Add ability to disable from server be9024a http://git.io/v36g7 (2015-08-13T15:05:48-04:00) |
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gold_digger |
Who do we go to for serious reporting of uses on "Just Test" server, we have redditWizards that is claiming im being sexual and perverted and DoS attacking him going on and on, he claims im using YOU (meow.minetest.net) servers to Dos attack him. |
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gold_digger |
i want to get his details from lag01 or the server to report this to the police,, the harrasment has been going on for months now, and I am finally fed up and want him delt with for this seriousness. |
| 20:05 |
sfan5 |
if he has a problem with traffic coming for my vps he should speak to me |
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gold_digger |
sfan5: he always claims i am you on there abusing people. |
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sfan5 |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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ElectronLibre |
This server is a mess... |
| 20:05 |
sfan5 |
then tell him that he's wrong |
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gold_digger |
sfan5: ive asked him to report me to the forum and he wont,, hes just spreading lies to get people to be unhappy with me. |
| 20:05 |
ElectronLibre |
Just ignore them.. |
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sfan5 |
and contact the just test admin |
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gold_digger |
ElectronLibre: how can you ignore with no ignore button , hes on just test now,, go have a look. |
| 20:06 |
gold_digger |
lag01 / lag is never on. |
| 20:06 |
gold_digger |
he never blocks, |
| 20:06 |
gold_digger |
i want his ISP details so i can personaly sort this out now. |
| 20:06 |
ElectronLibre |
Honestly I've never heard anything good about Just Test. |
| 20:06 |
gold_digger |
every evening after work im playing and he just continues to harass. |
| 20:07 |
ElectronLibre |
It's a pit filled with all kind of bad things you could imagine in minetest. |
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xenkey |
ElectronLibre: l-like lua? |
| 20:08 |
ElectronLibre |
I'm thinking of things related to players. |
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sfan5 |
gold_digger: anyway, the police probably won't care about someone being harassed in a game also you can't sort it out with him personally even if you have his ISPs details |
| 20:08 |
gold_digger |
ive been on there 3 years, generally fine, but this guy is so abusive, and personally attacking me. |
| 20:08 |
sfan5 |
his isp won't give you his address / phone number or anything |
| 20:08 |
xenkey |
You could get it yourself |
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gold_digger |
fine, then i will contact a lawyer to demand the information. just want lag to keep hold of it waiting. |
| 20:09 |
sfan5 |
lel a lawyer |
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ElectronLibre |
gold_digger: Ah ah. You not serious? |
| 20:09 |
sfan5 |
gold_digger: the ISP won't give a shit unless you come to them with a court order |
| 20:09 |
ElectronLibre |
No, really, you're going to seriously believe someone who arrasses you on "Just Test"? |
| 20:10 |
sfan5 |
and good luck convincing a court that you need some persons personal details because he has been harassing you in an online game |
| 20:10 |
gold_digger |
ElectronLibre: this guy is not stopping, and yes, im going to make a point of being very serious about this. |
| 20:10 |
xenkey |
Yup |
| 20:11 |
ElectronLibre |
gold_digger: Contact the admin, and ask to make this guy shut up/ban him and that's it. |
| 20:12 |
ElectronLibre |
Or find a better server. |
| 20:12 |
Sketch2 |
and if the admin ignores you, go to a server where the admin cares |
| 20:12 |
sfan5 |
!server just test |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: just test | 87.110.8.195 | Clients: 27/78, 18/36 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 37ms |
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sfan5 |
!server players:most |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: MINETEST ITALIA SERVER SURVIVAL | 176.31.162.215 | Clients: 30/50, 30/47 | Version: 0.4.12 / minetest | Ping: 7ms |
| 20:16 |
gold_digger |
i get that,, ignore him, move server, play else where,, but thats not a way to sort this out,, ive made friends and a lot of land there. i dont walk away from bullies. and we shouldnt need to. |
| 20:16 |
gold_digger |
its a childrens server, and hes putting chests near spawn with "Clit" in the name "gold_digger_clitjob" and so on. |
| 20:16 |
gold_digger |
I can't seem to PM lag01 on forums, no idea why,, |
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sfan5 |
just talk to the admin somehow |
| 20:17 |
sfan5 |
we can't solve your problem |
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ElectronLibre |
Ask the admin. |
| 20:17 |
ElectronLibre |
I don't even know if there's a proper moderation system on Just Test but there is obviously an admin (the hoster). |
| 20:19 |
xenkey |
lol |
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gold_digger |
all starts because 3 months ago he thinks ive dos attacked him off the web from meow.minetest.net, he claims ive used vpn to access your servers and attack him. |
| 20:19 |
xenkey |
And why would children file lawsuits |
| 20:19 |
xenkey |
Did you read what you even put |
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gold_digger |
I am 40 years old. i mean children use that server. |
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xenkey |
Oh jesus |
| 20:20 |
xenkey |
Here's how I'd solve it |
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xenkey |
Insult him. |
| 20:20 |
xenkey |
That's it |
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xenkey |
That's all it's worth |
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ElectronLibre |
Even though he indeed doesn't deserve more attention than some insults I don't think it will surely work. |
| 20:21 |
xenkey |
Did he ever steal money/personal information/data or cause injury/loss of anything ? |
| 20:21 |
ElectronLibre |
Contacting the admin is probably the only solution I see. |
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gold_digger |
xenkey: thats what he wants,, hes not doing anything, just wants attention,, im sure hes getting excited from it,, but i want some action done now that will shock him into reality. |
| 20:21 |
ElectronLibre |
Don't give him. |
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ElectronLibre |
In the worst case possible he just wants them to attack you. |
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xenkey |
Reality |
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Sketch2 |
save screenshots of what he's said to you, then post them on the forums |
| 20:22 |
xenkey |
Looks like you need a dose of reality |
| 20:22 |
Sketch2 |
if they are that serious |
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xenkey |
No I think the best idea would be to go to a lawyer right away |
| 20:22 |
xenkey |
Sew this guy for all he's got |
| 20:22 |
xenkey |
It's a horrific crime |
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ElectronLibre |
They would laugh at his face. |
| 20:22 |
xenkey |
He should be behind bars |
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xenkey |
^ |
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xenkey |
Exactly |
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ElectronLibre |
No lawyer is ever going to take seriously someone who he's harrassed in a videogame with so little evidences. |
| 20:24 |
ElectronLibre |
That's just not going to happen, contact the admin, and get this person banned. That's it. |
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VanessaE |
"But...he told me to go to hell!" "Well, I checked the law on that, and you don't have to go." |
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Sketch2 |
lmao, that's great |
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VanessaE |
(Robert Tyre Jones, Jr. when he was practicing law) |
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ElectronLibre |
(And strangely that's from Just Test..) |
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Sketch2 |
he coulda been talking about the nether mod |
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Sketch2 |
people are pretty crunchy at times. ever watch Willy Wonka? |
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Sketch2 |
perfect place, all the kids are rotten |
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Sketch2 |
you'll never get away from that |
| 20:30 |
Sketch2 |
it's bound to happen. deal with it |
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VanessaE |
someone in minetest HAS to make this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpbo25iBvfU |
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sfan5 |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: MINECRAFT CAKE VILLAGE How To Cook That Ann Reardon - YouTube |
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VanessaE |
it's a chocolate cake base with lots and lots of little fudge cubes (I think, I have sound turned off) for the terrain |
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sfan5 |
sounds like a lot of work |
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gold_digger |
VanessaE: and I thought i wasted my time building inside minetest. here shes spending 10x building her real life version :) |
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VanessaE |
hehe yep |
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* Sketch2 |
thinks the word "granted" should be taken out of that statement. |
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Sketch2 |
Ok, I'm slightly confused by this irrmesh format |
| 21:40 |
Sketch2 |
you specify X, Y, Z, then normals for X, Y, Z, then color as ARGB, then your U,V coords for texturespace |
| 21:41 |
Sketch2 |
that's fine, but why specify vertex color if you get color information from a seperate texture file? |
| 21:41 |
Sketch2 |
It seems to me you would need one or the other, not both |
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luizrpgluiz |
in which the file is hosted pvp code of minetest? |
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freelikegnu |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=pvp |
| 22:47 |
Sketch2 |
I think some is in minetest/src/client.cpp and some is in minetest/src/server.cpp |
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Sketch2 |
what were you planning on doing with it? |
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Sketch2 |
most of the code keeps track of how damage is dealt, but you might look into the fleshy damage of items as well |
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betterthanyou13 |
hi |
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Sketch2 |
hi 13 |
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luizrpgluiz |
I wanted to make a code that activates the pvp in a certain area |
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betterthanyou13 |
yo ima use iracha |
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betterthanyou13 |
nvm |
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luizrpgluiz |
? |
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betterthanyou13 |
yo |
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DI3HARD139 |
sup |
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Sketch2 |
that's interesting. I was actually talking about something similar to this the other day |
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betterthanyou13 |
to what? |
| 22:53 |
betterthanyou13 |
i waz just playin on storms econemy server |
| 22:53 |
betterthanyou13 |
where did he go off to |
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Sketch2 |
because I was thinking it would be nice if your weapon was more powerful at home |
| 22:53 |
betterthanyou13 |
oh |
| 22:53 |
betterthanyou13 |
nvm |
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Sketch2 |
and enemies weapons would be less effeective at killing you in your own home |
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swift110-phone |
Hey all |
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Sketch2 |
home team advantage |
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betterthanyou13 |
die how do i get to iracha |
| 22:54 |
Sketch2 |
it's another server |
| 22:54 |
betterthanyou13 |
can u give me the link? |
| 22:54 |
betterthanyou13 |
rly? |
| 22:54 |
betterthanyou13 |
hm |
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Sketch2 |
inchra.net (176.9.29.178) port 6667 |
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DI3HARD139 |
if freenode allows of it then: /connect irc.inchra.net/6667 then /join #minetest |
| 22:55 |
betterthanyou13 |
naw it doesent allow |
| 22:55 |
Sketch2 |
what IRC client are you using? |
| 22:55 |
DI3HARD139 |
then ull have to move to kiwiirc or use xchat or hexchat |
| 22:55 |
DI3HARD139 |
freenode webchat |
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betterthanyou13 |
im using freenode |
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* DI3HARD139 |
uses hexchat |
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betterthanyou13 |
how do i get it that way it shows in minetest |
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luizrpgluiz |
hummm,linux sistem? |
| 22:56 |
betterthanyou13 |
ya |
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Sketch2 |
no, not what server, but what program are you using to connect? |
| 22:56 |
betterthanyou13 |
wat u mean? |
| 22:56 |
betterthanyou13 |
r other ppl reading this? |
| 22:56 |
Sketch2 |
xChat, mIRC... what's the name of the program you are using |
| 22:57 |
betterthanyou13 |
web irc |
| 22:57 |
betterthanyou13 |
im using the internet |
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Sketch2 |
oh. |
| 22:57 |
betterthanyou13 |
wat should i use |
| 22:57 |
betterthanyou13 |
brb |
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Sketch2 |
that might be ok, but instead of connecting to freenode, connect to incra.net |
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DI3HARD139 |
unless Im missing something then inchra doesnt have a webchat plugin |
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betterthanyou13 |
is it a website? |
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betterthanyou13 |
or do i have to download somethin |
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Sketch2 |
http://chat.redenorte.net type inchra.net into the server name |
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betterthanyou13 |
k |
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DI3HARD139 |
u can if u want. other wise a common webclient is: https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.inchra.net/#minetest |
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Sketch2 |
channel #minetest |
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Sketch2 |
yeah, that would do as well |
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betterthanyou13 |
do u mean the webchat name |
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betterthanyou13 |
k im tryin kiwi |
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betterthanyou13 |
how do i talk on kiwi |
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betterthanyou13 |
i just saw wat die said |
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DI3HARD139 |
just type in the bar thats at the bottom of the page and hit enter |
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betterthanyou13 |
nvm |
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Testman |
hi oldcoder |
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Testman |
hi all |
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OldCoder |
Testman, Hi |
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Testman |
hi |
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Testman |
did you see my castle that i biult on lott? |
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Testman |
i didint finish it though |
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Testman |
also there was a teleporter to get thier but now it is gone. |
