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cornernote |
the first local user gets all privs ? |
| 00:08 |
est31 |
the one who hosts it via the server tab |
| 00:08 |
est31 |
in fact its the one specified by the "name" setting |
| 00:08 |
est31 |
so if you open the server tab, name gets set to your name automatically |
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est31 |
but if you e.g. make a headless server |
| 00:09 |
est31 |
then that counts what you last had as name |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Add biomes for mgv5 and mgv7 84de5f0 http://git.io/vYx6a (2015-07-30T01:19:12+01:00) |
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cornernote |
est31, i see.. so its whats in my minetest.conf |
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yaman |
Where do I add in default privs for a specific server? |
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yaman |
world* |
| 00:57 |
cornernote |
in minetest.conf - like this |
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cornernote |
default_privs = interact, shout |
| 01:00 |
yaman |
thanks |
| 01:02 |
yaman |
it did not work... |
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yaman |
nvm |
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cornernote |
i think its for new users, not existing ones |
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yaman |
I have a new username |
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yaman |
oops |
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yaman |
mod* |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi,can someone explain to me, as I do for the [minetest.register_on_generated] generate minetest standard treedef as in the example tree in the dev.minetest? |
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mm123 |
hello |
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Tesseract |
... http://i.imgur.com/M2aZzSH.png |
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luizrpgluiz |
hello |
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xfceKris |
Is anyone here a mod on Dan's Carbone server? |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi,can someone explain to me, as I do for the [minetest.register_on_generated] generate minetest standard treedef as in the example tree in the dev.minetest? |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi,can someone explain to me, as I do for the [minetest.register_on_generated] generate minetest standard treedef as in the example tree in the dev.minetest? |
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GoldenMewmew |
Hi? |
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GoldenMewmew |
Lol |
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GoldenMewmew |
Vyukvyiybivyiyvulyuyulukvyvykyfukvyukvyukyukfkfyuyu |
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GoldenMewmew |
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GoldenMewmew |
Ugyjblv |
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GoldenMewmew |
Vvguvguhvl |
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GoldenMewmew |
Yulvyukvuk |
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GoldenMewmew |
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GoldenMewmew |
CctykgukjolGyilvyulo |
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GoldenMewmew |
Lvhuo |
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GoldenMewmew |
GUI |
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GoldenMewmew |
Gyilhio |
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GoldenMewmew |
Gguvuvyulgkvhvyuctuktuvk GVHIYUIVUITVTUUUTFRDRTYDTFTYFYCT GVHIYUIVUITVTUUUTFRDRTYDTFTYFYCT |
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cornernote |
seen RealBadAngel |
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cornernote |
whats the Minetest bot command for seen ? |
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xfceKris |
!seen RealBadAngel |
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MinetestBot |
xfceKris: realbadangel was last seen at 2015-05-17 11:11:11 UTC on #minetest |
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xfceKris |
wow, nice time. 11:11:11 |
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xfceKris |
Anyone know how to add protection to something I'm building on a server? |
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BrandonReese |
What server? |
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xfceKris |
Dan's Carbone |
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xfceKris |
I was just informed I need an area lock block. |
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xfceKris |
Does anyone on here have any kind of elevated privs on Don's Carbone server? |
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xfceKris |
Please help me get rid of this troll |
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xfceKris |
I'm sitting here watching this asshole destroy my shit |
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xfceKris |
How about this. how do i protect my area? |
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sofar |
you'd have to know which mods he has on his servers |
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sofar |
type /mods |
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sofar |
also, take some screenshots of the grieving for later |
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xfceKris |
Potector mod is there. |
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xfceKris |
It's the only one I see that looks like what I need. |
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sofar |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4212 |
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xfceKris |
already found it, but it seems to overlap another mod, because I can't craft the protector block. |
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xfceKris |
keeps giving me a locked furnace. |
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xfceKris |
asshole is claiming he got hacked... |
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xfceKris |
riiiiight. |
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RicePancake25 |
Is there a way to update a formspec of a node every 'x' seconds? |
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rubenwardy |
ABMs |
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rubenwardy |
http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/chapters/abms.html |
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RicePancake25 |
Thanks! |
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bluegreen |
hello everyone |
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RicePancake25 |
Hello. |
| 08:38 |
bluegreen |
While trying to fix the bugs that happen when water reaches ignore |
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bluegreen |
I made water stop moving when it reaches ignore |
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bluegreen |
but not start moving again when the block loads |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Cheesecake Day! 😃 |
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Krock |
... |
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cornernote |
running a server sure uses a lot of bandwidth |
| 09:16 |
bluegreen |
How much? |
| 09:19 |
VanessaE |
here's a live example: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/stats.html |
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CWz |
hey VanessaE |
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VanessaE |
hi |
| 09:19 |
cornernote |
10 players uses all my upload |
| 09:19 |
cornernote |
about 200k/sec |
| 09:19 |
cornernote |
in australia thats all we get on adsl2 |
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CWz |
i have about 2mbps upload speed |
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sfan5 |
hooray i have fast internet http://www.speedtest.net/result/4355324310.png ... not |
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sfan5 |
:< |
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cornernote |
VanessaE, how many players is that ? |
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VanessaE |
look at the bottom graph :) |
| 09:32 |
cornernote |
i see |
| 09:33 |
cornernote |
10-20 players, 1mb/s upload |
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cornernote |
my 200k was kB not kb |
| 09:35 |
cornernote |
its dropped a lot now, sitting on about 300-500kbits |
| 09:35 |
cornernote |
but problem is, it uses all my outgoing bandwidth |
| 09:35 |
cornernote |
i may have to limit players or something |
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CWz |
cornernote: have you tried tweaking settings |
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CWz |
such has block transfers |
| 09:36 |
cornernote |
no, how do i do that ? |
| 09:38 |
CWz |
max_block_send_distance, max_simultaneous_block_sends_per_client, max_simultaneous_block_sends_server_total |
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CWz |
using those settings |
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cornernote |
cool, i'll try that, thanks |
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Megaf_ |
[21:56:38] <Calinou> http://i.imgur.com/wXvClLd.jpg |
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Megaf_ |
lol |
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Megaf_ |
Im downloading Windows 10 N here, about 3 hours to finish the download |
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Megaf_ |
Opening output file Win10_N_EnglishInternational_x64.iso |
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Megaf_ |
State file found: 530467086 bytes downloaded, 3347400434 to go. |
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Krock |
!calc 530467086 / 1024 / 1024.0 |
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Krock |
!c 530467086 / 1024 / 1024.0 |
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MinetestBot |
505.89283561706543 |
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* Krock |
takes the heinecken from the userlist and drinks it |
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Megaf_ |
Oo |
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Megaf_ |
[ 38%] [....0 ....1 ....2 ....3 ] [ 319.2KB/s] [ 2h02] Two hours to go :) |
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Krock |
Megaf_, you're crazy |
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Megaf_ |
Yes, but why? |
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Krock |
What's so special about win10? |
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Megaf_ |
Krock: Nothing at all. My girlfriend will need it for her work. To run some architecture softwares |
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Megaf_ |
and we have no windows at all at the moment... |
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Krock |
oh |
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Megaf_ |
This is one of the softwares by the way. http://www.autodesk.com/products/revit-family/overview |
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Calinou |
Rekt Family |
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Megaf_ |
It would be nice if we had decent (and Open Source) architecture software for Linux |
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Calinou |
won't happen anytime soon |
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Calinou |
not to mention most people don't do architecture anyway... |
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Calinou |
be realistic; we have more important software fields to liberate first |
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Calinou |
like, making GIMP and Krita better |
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Calinou |
else you end up in "Supported Features" xkcd land |
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Calinou |
https://xkcd.com/619/ |
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Megaf_ |
Calinou: That's very real |
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RicePancake25 |
In an ABM, is it possible to get the neighbor pos? |
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bluegreen |
not sure |
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bluegreen |
what are you trying to do? |
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RicePancake25 |
change the meta of the neighbouring block if it exists |
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RicePancake25 |
and it executes with an abm |
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bluegreen |
why not have an abm for the node you need to modify? |
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bluegreen |
or do you need to modify both nodes? |
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RicePancake25 |
i need ot modify both |
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RicePancake25 |
which is the problem lol |
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bluegreen |
well then no you can't |
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RicePancake25 |
Well, how would I go about accomplishing this then |
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bluegreen |
well |
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bluegreen |
you could use lua |
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bluegreen |
to check the nodes around you node |
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bluegreen |
I think |
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RicePancake25 |
Ok, I"ll try. |
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RicePancake25 |
thanks |
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Fixer |
ohi, need advice on obsidian generator |
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Fixer |
i keep getting stone, what i do wrong? |
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Krock |
Fixer, nothing. Lava sources are needed to generate obsidian |
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Fixer |
i got lava and water source |
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Krock |
when you touch the lava source with water, it will convert to obsidian, otherwise something's wrong |
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bluegreen |
then you lose your lava |
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Fixer |
yeah |
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bluegreen |
you can really generate obsidian |
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bluegreen |
can't* |
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Krock |
depends how "generate" is defined |
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bluegreen |
fine |
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bluegreen |
obsidian generating so non-renewable |
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twoelk |
Fixer: the trick is to generate lavasource. this feature may be disabled on some servers though |
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Krock |
you can generate lava sources by finding a new lava cave :P |
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twoelk |
you can create a club with oldcoder of the one-and-only-real-ones |
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twoelk |
maybe imposter ips should be collected |
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CWz |
they might be worth a fortune when a mintest card game comes out in 2025 |
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Fixer |
yes, looks like obsidian gen is impossible by default |
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Fixer |
cobble gen is working |
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bluegreen |
https://forum.minetest.net/download/file.php?id=2599 |
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bluegreen |
-- an over engineered cobble generator |
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Calinou |
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tall_infographics.png |
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Calinou |
Alt text says: 'Big Data' doesn't just mean increasing the font size. |
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UltimateNate |
I'm on Windows 10 now :D |
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yaman |
Hello, I am getting an error when using mg_villages and mobf_trader together, and I am not sure how to fix http://codebin.org/view/2cd7a055 |
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VanessaE |
UltimateNate: my condolences. :P |
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* bluegreen |
builds minetest |
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BrandonReese |
Are you using the latest mg_villages and mobf_trader? |
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BrandonReese |
I know he made changes to the spawning of traders recently which affected both mods |
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UltimateNate |
VanessaE: What is that supposed to mean? |
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yaman |
yes, I believe so |
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VanessaE |
UltimateNate: that windows sucks :) |
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UltimateNate |
VanessaE: You should try Windows 10 though. |
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UltimateNate |
It's better than 8.1 |
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UltimateNate |
and 7 maybe. |
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VanessaE |
no. fucking. way. |
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VanessaE |
Linux or gtfo |
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bluegreen |
the problem seems to be mg_villages/mapgen.lua:23 |
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Sokomine |
that's right. with the latest versions of both (and handle_schematics!), there ought to be no problem |
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BrandonReese |
I always forget about handle_schematics |
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* bluegreen |
is using windows 7 |
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UltimateNate |
I also see some FPS improvements. |
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UltimateNate |
Here's an Windows 10 picture VanessaE: http://icdn5.digitaltrends.com/image/desktop-window-1366x768.png |
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yaman |
ok, I will redownload |
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UltimateNate |
That I googled. |
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UltimateNate |
wait, that's 8.1 |
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UltimateNate |
hold on |
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bluegreen |
lol |
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UltimateNate |
http://winaero.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/gadgets-in-Windows-10.png |
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UltimateNate |
dammit, technical preview. |
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UltimateNate |
Where's a dam 10 full desktop |
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bluegreen |
that looks ok |
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UltimateNate |
http://www6.pcmag.com/media/images/470071-windows-10-wallpaper.jpg?thumb=y |
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VanessaE |
zzz |
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UltimateNate |
VanessaE: Plus, Windows 10 is free, you should consider checking out. |
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Sokomine |
BrandonReese: that's why i had most in one mod at the beginning. i seperated them because handle_schematics is also used for saving and placing buildings independently of any villages |
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bluegreen |
the main menu looks bloated |
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yaman |
Thankyou, it is working now |
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VanessaE |
no way in hell will I ever let windows on my machinbe. |
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VanessaE |
-b |
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UltimateNate |
bluegreen: It's customisable. |
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UltimateNate |
VanessaE: Your choice. |
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VanessaE |
besides, 10 is only free as an upgrade |
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VanessaE |
afaik the retail version will still cost. |
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CWz |
I never understood the connection with Z and sleeping |
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UltimateNate |
VanessaE: Well I can't put Linux on here anyway. |
| 14:43 |
UltimateNate |
It's not my computer :3 |
| 14:43 |
UltimateNate |
And they don't like or want Linux on here. |
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Sokomine |
yaman: did updating the versions help you? |
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Sokomine |
yaman: in your case, you'll want a more recent version of mobf_trader |
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Sokomine |
i really ought to bundle them soon... |
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VanessaE |
UltimateNate: "they" may change their mind some day |
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UltimateNate |
VanessaE: lol no. |
| 14:45 |
VanessaE |
windows is unsafe to use, and always will be. |
| 14:45 |
UltimateNate |
How so? |
| 14:45 |
UltimateNate |
I see no problem with Windows 10. |
| 14:45 |
UltimateNate |
It's 100x better than Windows 8.1 |
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BrandonReese |
Are you running as an Administrator |
| 14:46 |
VanessaE |
viruses, privacy violations, etc. |
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UltimateNate |
BrandonReese: I have UAC. |
| 14:46 |
VanessaE |
it always has been and always will be unsafe. |
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bluegreen |
why? |
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UltimateNate |
VanessaE: Windows is still the most used. |
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UltimateNate |
Linux is a small crowd compared to Windows. |
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bluegreen |
always |
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VanessaE |
UltimateNate: because it usually comes with whatever PC you buy. |
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VanessaE |
no other reason |
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yaman |
yes, updating fixed the issue |
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UltimateNate |
VanessaE: Most people never even heard of Linux. |
| 14:47 |
VanessaE |
UltimateNate: most people use linux. |
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bluegreen |
true |
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VanessaE |
in the form of Android. |
| 14:47 |
bluegreen |
both of those are true |
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UltimateNate |
But they might not know that. |
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UltimateNate |
Some are too stupid. |
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bluegreen |
also android is to linux like windows ce is to windows |
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bluegreen |
you can't run Linux programs on android without root iirc |
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tpe |
No problem with Windows 10? It's a privacy nightmare. Too much snooping that is opt-out. |
| 14:52 |
UltimateNate |
... |
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bluegreen |
UltimateNate did you run minetest on windows 10 yet? |
| 14:52 |
UltimateNate |
yes. |
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UltimateNate |
and there's no snooping on Windows 10. |
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UltimateNate |
That is a rumor. |
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tpe |
http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2015/07/29/wind-nos/ |
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tpe |
The fact all this stuff can be switched off is irrelevant. MS shouldn't be doing such mass collection of data by default. |
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VanessaE |
s/by default// |
| 14:54 |
tpe |
If it was opt-in, no problem. |
| 14:54 |
tpe |
As it stands, I'm also someone who wouldn't think of installing this on my own machine. |
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* bluegreen |
thinks about heartbleed |
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Xenoth |
Why doesn't the Minetest main menu support using the numpad on input boxes? |
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* VanessaE |
thinks of all the random windows viruses out there that each have affected more total machines (as a percentage) than heartbleed did. |
| 14:57 |
UltimateNate |
Posted that in ##windows |
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* bluegreen |
installed a sandbox |
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tpe |
Not sure what heartbleed has to do with Microsoft mass-collecting data. Heartbleed wasn't intentional. |
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inovent |
I've noticed that my phone contacts on my iPhone are shared with Facebook |
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VanessaE |
tpe: meh the only reason he brings it up is that the bug that was the root of the problem had existed for a few years but no one noticed it (until just before the story broke) |
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inovent |
lots of businesses profiling consumers.. |
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tpe |
VanessaE: Bugs happen, and some are hard to detect. At least it was fixed once found. It's not as if there was any malicious intent behind the bug itself, only those that would seek to exploit it. |
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VanessaE |
right |
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UltimateNate |
VanessaE: 14:56 <jcotton> UltimateNate: dude, it's useful functions |
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tpe |
Windows 10 collecting data isn't a bug, it's a feature! |
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UltimateNate |
I posted that link in ##windows like I said. |
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inovent |
Haha |
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tpe |
And like I said, if it was all opt-in I wouldn't have a problem. |
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tpe |
There will be people who won't use the "useful functions", but still have their data collected, because they just don't know or understand the system. |
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bluegreen |
tpe lot's of company's do this |
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Calinou |
<tpe> No problem with Windows 10? It's a privacy nightmare. Too much snooping that is opt-out. |
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Calinou |
there's snooping you can't block at all |
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Calinou |
except using /etc/hosts maybe |
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bluegreen |
you can block it |
| 15:05 |
bluegreen |
disconnect your internet |
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tpe |
bluegreen: Seems to be the general excuse, that other companies do it. |
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CWz |
what kind of snooping |
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bluegreen |
:) |
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tpe |
Doesn't make it right. |
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inovent |
There is an inherent problem if you design/develop something and Microsoft owns it since you are using their operating system. |
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inovent |
I just heard about this recently, haven't read anything in writing about this |
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Calinou |
this is wrong, inovent |
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Calinou |
not only in theory it can't happen but in practice, it won't happen even if they wrote that in the EULA |
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* bluegreen |
agrees |
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Calinou |
it's like the Family & Small Office version of Office that prohibits commercial use... |
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inovent |
Like when you upload something to the cloud, you lose ownership of it |
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CWz |
so if i were to make a PC game microsoft will be like "Mine *snatches game away*" |
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Calinou |
just as wrong, you just grant a license to the service provider :P |
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inovent |
In legal terms, it is when you develop something and who owns it? Well, technically when it is in the cloud, in order to not hold the cloud provider liable, they put it in writing that you lose ownership and they aren't liable for lost data |
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inovent |
So you lose your intellectual property, right? |
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inovent |
And if you are being spied on and you are working on a project from home, |
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UltimateNate |
15:06 <inovent> There is an inherent problem if you design/develop something and Microsoft owns it since you are using their operating system. |
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UltimateNate |
Not if you copyright it |
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UltimateNate |
and trademark. |
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Calinou |
even if you dedicate it to the public domain, it simply doesn't become Microsoft's work |
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tpe |
I'm no fan of Microsoft, as you may have gathered, but I'm not sure where the idea that Microsoft owns your development projects is coming from. |
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Calinou |
inovent, did you say intellectual property? it's a seductive mirage :) |
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tpe |
Very misleading, to say the least. |
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Calinou |
what you should be more afraid of is your employer, or your university, taking your rights |
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Calinou |
ie. you develop a program at your university, and they claim the rights on it... and you don't have any rights on it |
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Calinou |
that can happen, and does happen sometimes in the US mostly |
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CWz |
lesson is only develop at home |
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UltimateNate |
That's why you trademark it. |
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UltimateNate |
and they can't steal it. |
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Calinou |
trademark has nothing to do with that :P |
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Calinou |
they could rebrand the software and be done with it |
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inovent |
^ |
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UltimateNate |
and you can sue them. |
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UltimateNate |
:D |
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tpe |
As a musician, it'd be like me producing a track, and the track suddenly falling under the ownership of the company that wrote the DAW. Doesn't happen. |
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CWz |
I hope Celery didn't dev minetest in university |
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CWz |
*Celeron55 |
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inovent |
It's like if you put up a document to share with friends using Google, |
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inovent |
it's your document, but once you share it, whose is it? |
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tpe |
Yours. You're just licensing it for external use or viewing. |
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* CWz |
notes never to use google docs again |
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Calinou |
CWz, he didn't; it wasn't made as a university project |
| 15:15 |
Calinou |
yeah, use Etherpad/Ethercalc |
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inovent |
I heard *hearsay* that you lose the rights to it because it protects Google from being liable |
| 15:15 |
Calinou |
don't use Google services if you can :) |
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UltimateNate |
CWz: I didn't know this could write code: http://rampages.us/gettinghealthy/wp-content/uploads/sites/2872/2014/10/Health-Benefits-of-Celery.jpg |
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inovent |
tpe: I'll do some more research and find out more for sure, but I'm glad I was able to think about it a little more here.. |
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* CWz |
wonders if there will be open-source bios |
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inovent |
I haven't felt safe with my ideas recently knowing that my data is easily being sold to the highest bidder (iPhone contacts to Facebook).. what else is being taken from my phone. :( |
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tpe |
CWz: coreboot? |
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Calinou |
Coreboot contains blobs |
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Calinou |
http://libreboot.org :) |
| 15:19 |
Calinou |
there are two sold devices with it: the X60 and the X200 |
| 15:20 |
Calinou |
there are upsides: you can encrypt your /boot partition, but there are important limitations: you can only use GNU/Linux as operating system |
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Calinou |
(ie. it can't boot Windows) |
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tpe |
How many devices does it support? Fully free is always nice, but so many things require blobs... |
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Calinou |
http://libreboot.org/docs/hcl/index.html#supported_list |
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Calinou |
there is a server/workstation motherboard supported too |
| 15:22 |
Calinou |
but most the list is comprised of laptops |
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bluegreen |
can it boot grub or other boot manager? |
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tpe |
Heh, MacBooks. Interesting to see that there, I was under the impression that Apple are pretty much the antithesis of open. |
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Calinou |
bluegreen, the bootloader is unrelated; so yes, you can use GRUB or any other bootloader |
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Calinou |
tpe, Apple obviously didn't make that port to Libreboot, let alone endorse it :P |
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bluegreen |
so it can boot windows then |
| 15:24 |
Calinou |
no, it can't |
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bluegreen |
why? |
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Calinou |
http://libreboot.org/faq/#gnulinux |
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bluegreen |
but grub can boot windows |
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tpe |
Calinou: Undoubtedly. :P Just fascinates me that a MacBook is one of the machines this was ported to. |
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bluegreen |
at least win xpo |
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tpe |
I wouldn't buy one with FOSS goals in mind. |
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Calinou |
GRUB can't boot directly Windows, it uses chainloading anyway |
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bluegreen |
so? |
| 15:27 |
Calinou |
basically, GRUB calls the Windows bootloader, since Windows doesn't want to boot from GRUB |
| 15:27 |
bluegreen |
http://coreboot.org/Windows |
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Calinou |
Libreboot != Coreboot |
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bluegreen |
so is it a fork? |
| 15:30 |
Calinou |
it is not a fork, it is a distribution of Coreboot with binary blobs removed |
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Calinou |
most development happens in Coreboot though |
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yaman |
Sokomine, is it possible to have multiple players have access to a house in your mg_villages mod? |
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luizrpgluiz |
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H-H-H |
lol for those ppl who say they cant run linux on whatever pc coz it isnt thier pc then the answer is simple lol boot from a usb stick :P |
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luizrpgluiz |
I do the installation of Linux via USB stick because to me is faster |
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Sokomine |
yaman: i'm afraid that's not possible yet. guess i ought to add a share command |
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Sokomine |
i think i ought to add a small shared area to all villages. an allmende |
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twoelk |
hurray for the commons |
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twoelk |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_field_system interesting what effect this system had on development |
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spawn_tree because the command does not call the tree in the mapgen minetest? |
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CWz |
~tell kaeza i have suggestion for irc mod . add the ability to ignore specific users from irc |
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ShadowBot |
CWz: O.K. |
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Testman_ |
hi |
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Testman_ |
hi? |
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bluegreen |
hi] |
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APerson_ |
Where does clay spawn in minetest |
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Calinou |
APerson_, near sand in beaches. |
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Calinou |
sometimes underwater, sometimes above surface |
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APerson_ |
Ok, thanks |
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bluegreen |
mostly underwater |
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Calinou |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stunt_Rally_%28game%29 |
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Calinou |
even SR is more notable than Minetest |
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Calinou |
:phoronix rolleyes: |
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bluegreen |
well you can try add get it deleted |
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bluegreen |
‼ |
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APerson_ |
can a deployer put down seeds? |
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APerson_ |
VanessaE^ |
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est31 |
APerson_, yes |
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est31 |
put it under the dirt |
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est31 |
facing up |
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APerson_ |
Ah, alright, thanks |
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jojoa1997 |
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aerth |
hey i am operating a server but it seems it only uses 1 cpu of 4. what do i do to improve things |
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aerth |
make -j 4 ? |
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est31 |
aerth, that only helps with compilation |
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est31 |
minetest is mostly single-threaded |
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aerth |
thanks |
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aerth |
is there a set hp command |
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aerth |
or remove item from a users inventory command |
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MinetestBot |
[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Small SendableMediaAnnouncement cleanup 05fe9ab http://git.io/vOUWS (2015-07-31T01:01:00+02:00) |
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aerth |
is there a way of effecting the server while its running , without logging in as a user |
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est31 |
aerth, not yet |
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aerth |
k |
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aerth |
thanks |
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est31 |
I'm building a headless server console, for the server |
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aerth |
:D nice! is it using ncurses |
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est31 |
yes :) |
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aerth |
:D |
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est31 |
well its using ncursesw :p |
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aerth |
awesome is it available for preview |
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est31 |
yes |
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est31 |
this is my branch https://github.com/est31/minetest/tree/ncurses-console |
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est31 |
usual ctrl+c to exit, press esc to see help for further commands |
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rocx |
Sweet. |
