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| 00:01 |
dotDeb |
is there a minimap mod/key? |
| 00:02 |
dotDeb |
cool |
| 00:02 |
dotDeb |
is there sprint? |
| 00:03 |
dotDeb |
ty |
| 00:03 |
dotDeb |
how do you use it |
| 00:04 |
dotDeb |
ok thanks |
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lemonlake_ |
How does one install a lib? |
| 00:11 |
blaise |
what do you mean? |
| 00:11 |
lemonlake_ |
idk |
| 00:11 |
lemonlake_ |
faces |
| 00:11 |
blaise |
what operating system |
| 00:11 |
blaise |
what lib ? |
| 00:13 |
lemonlake_ |
idk |
| 00:13 |
lemonlake_ |
toes |
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lemonlake_ |
It has been revolutionized. |
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Exio4 |
Ich bin ein Mann! |
| 01:00 |
Exio4 |
duolingo lol |
| 01:03 |
Exio4 |
Er ist != Du bist ;_; |
| 01:05 |
Exio4 |
what is the difference between Junge and Kind_ |
| 01:05 |
Exio4 |
what is the difference between Junge and Kind? |
| 01:06 |
dotDeb |
exio4 Kind = child, Junge = boy |
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| 01:07 |
Exio4 |
like kind ~= kid? |
| 01:08 |
dotDeb |
exio4 I think so |
| 01:10 |
Exio4 |
Ich esse Brot |
| 01:10 |
Exio4 |
funny phrases |
| 01:10 |
dotDeb |
Ist gut? |
| 01:10 |
dotDeb |
*Ist es gut? |
| 01:11 |
Exio4 |
hey! this is just my first lesson! |
| 01:11 |
Exio4 |
i've to learn "der, die, das, Milch, trinkst, isst" now |
| 01:11 |
Exio4 |
xP |
| 01:12 |
dotDeb |
exio4 i don't speak german |
| 01:12 |
dotDeb |
I did duolingo too |
| 01:12 |
Exio4 |
ahm |
| 01:12 |
Exio4 |
duolingo is neat |
| 01:14 |
Exio4 |
Die Frau! |
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* blaise |
facepalms |
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kahrl |
https://twitter.com/shitduosays |
| 02:22 |
Exio4 |
rofl |
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| 02:52 |
blaise |
anyone have any idea who the culpret is on this one? http://pastebin.com/6YCaxvNt |
| 02:52 |
blaise |
is it technic, pipeworks, or default ? |
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ArchZombie1y |
*pokes channel* anyone alive? |
| 03:00 |
blaise |
yeah |
| 03:00 |
blaise |
not many, but a few |
| 03:08 |
kahrl |
blaise: the pipeworks/item_transport.lua I see online has only 480 lines |
| 03:08 |
kahrl |
where did you get yours? |
| 03:10 |
VanessaE |
blaise: I believe this particular issue is a bug in mesecons |
| 03:10 |
VanessaE |
it has been reported before |
| 03:10 |
VanessaE |
but it's not 100% certain where the problem actually lies. |
| 03:11 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/issues/164 |
| 03:11 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/issues/69 |
| 03:11 |
VanessaE |
correction, it was fixed :P |
| 03:11 |
VanessaE |
update mesecons. |
| 03:11 |
VanessaE |
and as kahrl suggested, make sure your pipeworks is legit. |
| 03:13 |
VanessaE |
meanwhile, small announcement for the two people who are awake at this hour: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2041&p=151420#p151420 |
| 03:40 |
Cylus |
VanessaE: Sweet! |
| 03:41 |
Cylus |
I'm always a fan of pages that actually pass W3C validation. THere are so few of them out there. |
| 03:41 |
Cylus |
It look pretty good too. Lots of pictures to make sure the recipes are understood. |
| 03:42 |
VanessaE |
yup and no need for any of that fancy HTML5 or javascript |
| 03:44 |
Cylus |
Most of the time JavaScript isn't needed, but most people just don't seem to get that. |
| 03:45 |
Cylus |
I had no idea that mod had so many recipes .... |
| 03:45 |
VanessaE |
too damn many :) |
| 03:46 |
VanessaE |
and it's about to get more soon :P |
| 03:46 |
Cylus |
Or so many nodes, to be honest. It's pretty inclusive. Perhaps it's the only mod you really need? |
| 03:48 |
VanessaE |
heh |
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| 05:38 |
schultza |
is it playable? |
| 05:39 |
VanessaE |
yep quite so |
| 05:39 |
schultza |
whats missing for features? |
| 05:39 |
VanessaE |
depends on what you want, really |
| 05:40 |
VanessaE |
if you expect a pure MC clone, one could say it's missing a lot - it doesn't have "The End" for example. |
| 05:40 |
VanessaE |
but that's not the purpose of Minetest |
| 05:40 |
VanessaE |
we go our own way. |
| 05:40 |
schultza |
well, im looking for a free 2 play minecraft like game that has multiplayer.. .and we can build, farm, mine, etc... im not wating the ....the end... yet |
| 05:41 |
schultza |
and survival like mode... eat/drink to survive |
| 05:41 |
VanessaE |
you've more or less found the right place then |
| 05:41 |
VanessaE |
Minetest is a game engine and there are several game packages that run on it - among them are Minetest Game (the "default" one), Carbone, Nodetopia, Dreambuilder, Realtest, and several more, maintained by different people |
| 05:42 |
schultza |
how does it compare vs manic digger? |
| 05:42 |
VanessaE |
multiplayer is a standard part of the engine and all of the games, most of them have some farming features |
| 05:42 |
VanessaE |
they all center around mining in some way |
| 05:42 |
VanessaE |
most support survival, with eating at least. |
| 05:43 |
VanessaE |
um, never played manic miner. |
| 05:43 |
VanessaE |
(I've never played MC either) |
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| 06:00 |
schultza |
ugh... this is barren |
| 06:00 |
schultza |
what did i do wrong on the generation? |
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blaise |
kahrl: I did a git clone from VanessaE's pipeworks repo |
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Krock |
moin |
| 06:50 |
reactor |
mowing |
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| 10:03 |
CaveJohnson |
Calinou: hi |
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| 10:15 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 10:36 |
CaveJohnson |
Calinou: what servers do you frequent in btw? (about to go find some) |
| 10:37 |
* sfan5 |
meows at CaveJohnson |
| 10:38 |
reactor |
Anyone ever managed to run pyspades? |
| 10:38 |
CaveJohnson |
goddammit sfan4 |
| 10:38 |
reactor |
What is that stupid gag about building python scripts? |
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| 10:45 |
Calinou |
CaveJohnson, VanessaE's |
| 10:45 |
Calinou |
no server runs a recent vanilla version of Carbone :( |
| 10:45 |
Calinou |
this is sad, due to how some things in minetest_game suck (too fast sinking, too slow movement, too loud sand sounds) |
| 10:46 |
CaveJohnson |
:( |
| 10:46 |
CaveJohnson |
Calinou: is that open to people? |
| 10:46 |
CaveJohnson |
(and what is their gender?) |
| 10:47 |
Calinou |
? |
| 10:47 |
CaveJohnson |
i mean, is the server open to new user, Calinou? |
| 10:47 |
Calinou |
you need to ask for interact |
| 10:47 |
CaveJohnson |
and is VanessaE female or male? |
| 10:47 |
Calinou |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4057 |
| 10:47 |
Calinou |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7017 |
| 10:47 |
CaveJohnson |
(i would have assumed female because of the nick) |
| 10:47 |
Calinou |
there are at least 4 servers |
| 10:47 |
Calinou |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8364 |
| 10:47 |
Calinou |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9317 |
| 10:47 |
CaveJohnson |
o. |
| 10:47 |
CaveJohnson |
o |
| 10:47 |
Calinou |
creative, survival, mostly vanilla (few mods, the other ones have lots of mods), FFA (griefing allowed) |
| 10:48 |
Calinou |
yes, female |
| 10:49 |
CaveJohnson |
ah :) |
| 10:49 |
CaveJohnson |
oh wow |
| 10:49 |
CaveJohnson |
https://github.com/VanessaE impressive |
| 10:49 |
CaveJohnson |
(contribution graph) |
| 10:49 |
Calinou |
my contribution graph has gone low, due to not having repositories on GitHub anymore |
| 10:49 |
Calinou |
https://gitorious.org/Calinou/ |
| 10:49 |
CaveJohnson |
understandable :P |
| 10:49 |
Calinou |
watch this instead |
| 10:49 |
CaveJohnson |
okay :) |
| 10:50 |
Calinou |
https://gitorious.org/~calinou1 |
| 10:50 |
Calinou |
actual profile page ^ |
| 10:50 |
Calinou |
I didn't know there was such a thing, heh |
| 10:50 |
CaveJohnson |
heh, nice avatar, Calinou :P |
| 10:51 |
Calinou |
available in sizes from 60² to 256², between 150 and 260 bytes only |
| 10:51 |
Calinou |
yet looks good, has slightly rounded corner |
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* CaveJohnson |
signs up |
| 10:52 |
CaveJohnson |
done, now for SSH keys |
| 10:53 |
Calinou |
yeah, I ended up using SSH keys because I thought they were mandatory |
| 10:53 |
CaveJohnson |
D: |
| 10:54 |
CaveJohnson |
!later tell calinou *puts rarity on Calinou's head* |
| 10:54 |
CaveJohnson |
fak |
| 10:54 |
CaveJohnson |
!tell calinou *puts rarity on Calinou's head* |
| 10:54 |
MinetestBot |
CaveJohnson: I'll pass that on when calinou is around |
| 10:55 |
CaveJohnson |
:D |
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| 11:00 |
CaveJohnson |
!tell VanessaE sorry if this seems quite rude coming from someone who has only been playing Minetest a little, but would it be possible to have interact permissions on your survival server? |
| 11:00 |
MinetestBot |
CaveJohnson: I'll pass that on when VanessaE is around |
| 11:02 |
CaveJohnson |
uhhh |
| 11:02 |
CaveJohnson |
!tell VanessaE (username zackp30) |
| 11:02 |
MinetestBot |
CaveJohnson: I'll pass that on when VanessaE is around |
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CaveJohnson |
b highm |
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CaveJohnson |
oops |
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jin_xi |
ugh |
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* sfan5 |
meows at CaveJohnson |
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ispn |
Hi all |
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ispn |
what's the key for flying down in MT? |
| 13:14 |
PenguinDad |
ispn: you fly down with shift by default |
| 13:14 |
ispn |
ok cool, works |
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Krock |
http://i.imgur.com/vs7Kr.gif?1 |
| 13:33 |
Krock |
ispn, turn off fly mode works too :P |
| 13:33 |
ispn |
Krock: yes, it's pretty fast :) |
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PenguinDad |
Krock: but it might end "bloody" |
| 13:40 |
Krock |
PenguinDad, hmm? could be, yes. |
| 13:41 |
PenguinDad |
descending with shift is a tiny bit more safe |
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VanessaE |
CaveJohnson: no worries, that's not rude at all. Interact granted. |
| 14:57 |
MinetestBot |
VanessaE: 08-17 16:00 UTC <CaveJohnson> sorry if this seems quite rude coming from someone who has only been playing Minetest a little, but would it be possible to have interact permissions on your survival server? |
| 14:57 |
* VanessaE |
reads scrollback... |
| 14:57 |
MinetestBot |
VanessaE: 08-17 16:02 UTC <CaveJohnson> (username zackp30) |
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ispn |
hm, /giveme technic:flashlight drops error (unknown item), is syntax ok? |
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PenguinDad |
ispn: did you enable the technic fleshlight |
| 15:13 |
PenguinDad |
*flashlight? |
| 15:13 |
ispn |
man that's the most unfortunate typo there -_- |
| 15:14 |
ispn |
How do I enable it? |
| 15:14 |
PenguinDad |
Fleshlight == Lightsaber :P |
| 15:17 |
PenguinDad |
ispn: create a file called technic.conf in the world folder and put "enable_flashlight = "true"" in it |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
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ispn |
Hi rubenwardy! |
| 15:21 |
ispn |
PenguinDad: doesn't seem to work :/ |
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MinetestBot |
Calinou: 08-17 15:54 UTC <CaveJohnson> *puts rarity on Calinou's head* |
| 15:22 |
Calinou |
!tell CaveJohnson *puts Rainbow Dash on CaveJohnson's head* |
| 15:22 |
MinetestBot |
Calinou: I'll pass that on when CaveJohnson is around |
| 15:24 |
PenguinDad |
ispn: Did you put it there with the quotes? |
| 15:24 |
* PenguinDad |
puts Lyra Heartstrings on Calinou's head |
| 15:25 |
ispn |
PenguinDad: both with and without, works neither. conf in main game folder, along with minetest conf |
| 15:26 |
ispn |
PenguinDad: ahh ok I see, wait a sec |
| 15:26 |
PenguinDad |
ispn: put in the folder of the world where you want to play with the flashlight |
| 15:26 |
ispn |
PenguinDad: flashlight = true |
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ispn |
? |
| 15:26 |
PenguinDad |
+ it |
| 15:28 |
rubenwardy |
!seen iqualfragile |
| 15:28 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: iqualfragile was last seen at 2014-08-15 14:59:36 UTC on #minetest-de |
| 15:28 |
ispn |
PenguinDad: still no success. Too much time spent on it, abandoning for later. |
| 15:30 |
FreeFull |
Is there any way to make working with items nicer in minetest? Say, like shift-click in minecraft |
| 15:30 |
FreeFull |
Clicking and moving each stack on its own is so slow |
| 15:30 |
FreeFull |
I just want to empty some chests and transfer the contents to other chests |
| 15:32 |
Calinou |
nope, you can't handle Shift + Click differently |
| 15:32 |
CaveJohnson |
VanessaE: thanks! :D |
| 15:32 |
MinetestBot |
CaveJohnson: 08-17 20:22 UTC <Calinou> *puts Rainbow Dash on CaveJohnson's head* |
| 15:32 |
FreeFull |
): |
| 15:32 |
* CaveJohnson |
puts fluttershy on Calinou's head |
| 15:33 |
PenguinDad |
Shift-Click wouldn't be much faster for me |
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FreeFull |
PenguinDad: Why wouldn't it be? |
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FreeFull |
16:53:20: ERROR[main]: ...minetest/mods/homedecor_modpack/building_blocks/init.lua:258: attempt to index global 'stairsplus' (a nil value) Hmm |
| 15:54 |
Krock |
get moreblocks |
| 15:55 |
FreeFull |
That's meant to be recommended, not required. Oh well. |
| 15:56 |
FreeFull |
I do have moreblocks |
| 15:56 |
FreeFull |
I suppose my version of it is old though |
| 15:59 |
FreeFull |
Yeah, getting the up to date version fixed it |
| 16:01 |
Calinou |
More Blocks (as all my mods and Carbone) are rolling release |
| 16:01 |
Krock |
and when's the forum search gonna be fixed? |
| 16:01 |
Calinou |
update them often |
| 16:02 |
Calinou |
Krock, it can't |
| 16:02 |
Calinou |
PunBB-era topics need to be deleted and re-posted |
| 16:02 |
CaveJohnson |
ouch... |
| 16:02 |
Krock |
but... you can still view them |
| 16:02 |
CaveJohnson |
discourse <3 |
| 16:02 |
Calinou |
Discource doesn't suit our uses |
| 16:03 |
CaveJohnson |
Calinou: may i ask why? it's quite a nice forum software :P |
| 16:03 |
Calinou |
doesn't fit mod topics, texture pack topics… |
| 16:03 |
Calinou |
large discussion topics |
| 16:03 |
Calinou |
limited styling |
| 16:03 |
Calinou |
(phpBB styling is quite powerful) |
| 16:04 |
Calinou |
moderation isn't that fool-proof |
| 16:04 |
Calinou |
(phpBB is pretty fool-proof) |
| 16:04 |
Calinou |
the “good old†forum paradigm isn't going away anytime soon |
| 16:04 |
Calinou |
huge corporations are still using it |
| 16:04 |
CaveJohnson |
i don't understand :P |
| 16:05 |
CaveJohnson |
do you mean that there's just categories, instead of the traditional "seperate boards"? |
| 16:08 |
Calinou |
yes, hipster stuff |
| 16:08 |
Calinou |
doesn't suit language-specific sections |
| 16:08 |
Calinou |
really, I hate the Discourse model because it tries to be a revolution |
| 16:10 |
CaveJohnson |
well, IMO it's nice, but people have their preferences :P |
| 16:12 |
rubenwardy |
I prefer punbb |
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CaveJohnson |
o.o |
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CaveJohnson |
haven't seen calinou timing out in a long time |
| 16:19 |
Calinou |
connection bugs |
| 16:19 |
Calinou |
ISPs never deliver! |
| 16:19 |
CaveJohnson |
hehe :P |
| 16:27 |
Calinou |
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=sumo_omni_reloaded&num=1 |
| 16:29 |
PenguinDad |
lol |
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Cylus |
I don't think #fedora likes you, Calinou. I don't know what you did to piss them off though, you seemed reasonable to me. |
| 16:31 |
Cylus |
(By the way, I sometimes have to reboot too when my trackpoint gives out on me. There should be a command to fix it, but I don't know what it is.) |
| 16:34 |
rubenwardy |
Rebooting does apply on any OS. |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
meh, #fedora is always angry |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
like most distribution channels |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
French-speaking distribution channels are way less annoying |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
I don't know why |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
but less people are there, so no quick answer usually |
| 16:39 |
reactor |
Calinou: no wonder... It's Fedora eh! |
| 16:39 |
Calinou |
no, it's IRC |
| 16:39 |
reactor |
That OS is _riddled_ with Poettering's insanity. |
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Calinou |
people are often asses on IRC |
| 16:39 |
Calinou |
(but also English-speaking…) |
| 16:40 |
Calinou |
reactor, so is almost common distribution now |
| 16:40 |
Calinou |
no first-tier distribution uses (or will use) something other than systemd now |
| 16:40 |
reactor |
Because of it. |
| 16:40 |
reactor |
It's the centre of that crap. |
| 16:40 |
Exio4 |
systemd is like worst thing ever |
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reactor |
Systemd _is_ insanity. It's unnecessary, non-standard, fault-prone. |
| 16:41 |
reactor |
Init is fine. |
| 16:41 |
jp |
why debian rock-stable will implement systemd so ? |
| 16:42 |
reactor |
Compatibility. |
| 16:43 |
Cylus |
I don't really see anger at #debian (on OFTC). |
| 16:44 |
Cylus |
What is systemd used for? |
| 16:45 |
ispn |
sfan5: Good news. Mesh imports OK as separate objects, and is sculptable using dyntopo (though with errors and a lot of doubles). Will try to slice it with slicer via repetier host, see how it simulates. |
| 16:46 |
Krock |
http://i.imgur.com/IpMxwtR.jpg |
| 16:47 |
Krock |
sfan5 ^ |
| 16:47 |
ispn |
sfan5: I think I could script blender to fetch every object from imported obj and replace with metaball easily, will try later. This week will be totally busy. |
| 16:48 |
reactor |
Cylus: it's like hipster init. |
| 16:48 |
Exio4 |
Cylus, the problem is, what it isn't |
| 16:49 |
reactor |
Because init is too mainstream. |
| 16:49 |
Exio4 |
it rewrites everything just for the sake of rewriting everything |
| 16:49 |
Exio4 |
reactor, hah |
| 16:49 |
reactor |
And now, thanks to these assholes, it's becoming mainstream. |
| 16:49 |
reactor |
those* |
| 16:49 |
reactor |
They're basically cramming everything into PID 1. |
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reactor |
Okay, people, how about we put X in there? |
| 16:49 |
reactor |
And everything that runs under it, huh?! |
| 16:50 |
reactor |
And then if something breaks, and breaks terribly, who are you gonna blame? Computer gods?! |
| 16:50 |
FreeFull |
Making coal blocks and other items like that is really slow |
| 16:51 |
cobcorn |
where do you put mods in minetest for linux? |
| 16:51 |
cobcorn |
arch, btw |
| 16:51 |
cobcorn |
I didn't see a mod folder in .minetest |
| 16:52 |
jp |
create it. "mods" folder |
| 16:52 |
cobcorn |
ohk |
| 16:55 |
cobcorn |
w00t mesecons |
| 16:57 |
* Krock |
puts X to XZ |
| 16:58 |
Calinou |
<Cylus> I don't really see anger at #debian (on OFTC). |
| 16:58 |
Calinou |
a lot of it |
| 16:58 |
Calinou |
not anger as in insults, but, constant passive-aggressivity |
| 16:59 |
Calinou |
the user base is usually 30-40 year old sysadmins |
| 16:59 |
Calinou |
who don't have much fun in life |
| 16:59 |
Calinou |
so it's to be expected |
| 16:59 |
rubenwardy |
Am I right in thinking that it is bad to do this in C++: https://github.com/Jeija/planether/blob/master/src/game.hpp |
| 16:59 |
rubenwardy |
That is, forward declare but don't include the classes. The classes are included in the equivalent of game.cpp instead. |
| 16:59 |
sfan5 |
ispn: glad that it works |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
heh, Jeija is writing his own game |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
…no license |
| 17:01 |
rubenwardy |
didn't notice that. |
| 17:01 |
Calinou |
made an issue 8) |
| 17:01 |
Calinou |
I love reporting licensing issues |
| 17:04 |
rubenwardy |
#planether |
| 17:04 |
CaveJohnson |
oh, also, Calinou |
| 17:05 |
CaveJohnson |
how does the forking system work in gitourious? |
| 17:05 |
rubenwardy |
But, anyway, am I right? |
| 17:05 |
CaveJohnson |
*gitorious |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
there's a per-project issue tracker and per-repository merge request tracker |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
https://gitorious.org/projects/calinou/issues |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
^ eg. issues |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
undocumented feature 8) |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
same as .zip download |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
it's hidden |
| 17:05 |
CaveJohnson |
i appear to have a made a new repo under your "namespace" |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
I believe it's done so intentionally |
| 17:05 |
CaveJohnson |
ahhh |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
https://gitorious.org/Calinou/ |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
I see an user clone |
| 17:06 |
CaveJohnson |
orite, suddenly it makes sense |
| 17:06 |
CaveJohnson |
ok |
| 17:06 |
CaveJohnson |
was going to try and contribute, Calinou |
| 17:06 |
CaveJohnson |
have to do it like, in a few days tho :( |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
what are you going to make? |
| 17:06 |
CaveJohnson |
not sure yet, that's the problem |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
try not to make something which I'll immediately refuse |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
(including but not limited to: “Timbering†trees and cacti, Minecraft-like mob knockback, hunger…) |
| 17:06 |
CaveJohnson |
Calinou: omg i'm going to add cars ;) |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
try focusing on fixes or subtle enhancements instead |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
to avoid refusal |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
this is valid for any project |
| 17:07 |
CaveJohnson |
okay, will do :) |
| 17:07 |
CaveJohnson |
also Lua <3 |
| 17:08 |
Calinou |
indeed |
| 17:08 |
Calinou |
imagine if the Web used Lua instead of JavaScript |
| 17:08 |
* Calinou |
runs |
| 17:08 |
CaveJohnson |
would be cool, actually |
| 17:08 |
rubenwardy |
Squirrel |
| 17:08 |
CaveJohnson |
JS doesn't have the best syntax |
| 17:08 |
PenguinDad |
node.lua :D |
| 17:09 |
rubenwardy |
Squirrel is what JS wants to be |
| 17:17 |
sfan5 |
meow |
| 17:17 |
sfan5 |
:/ |
| 17:17 |
sfan5 |
Krock: a cat |
| 17:17 |
sfan5 |
kitten* |
| 17:18 |
Krock |
MEOW |
| 17:18 |
PenguinDad |
WÖM :P |
| 17:29 |
* sfan5 |
licks PenguinDad |
| 17:29 |
* PenguinDad |
meows at sfan5 |
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| 17:37 |
Calinou |
rubenwardy, JS takes years to evolve |
| 17:37 |
Calinou |
it evolves very slowly due to browsers being slow to implement it |
| 17:37 |
Calinou |
so people invent hundreds (!) of frameworks to circumvent it |
| 17:42 |
pitriss |
Hi, please is there way how to make player names bigger? i mean that titles hovering above heads... |
| 17:43 |
* Krock |
gives pitriss https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1513 |
| 17:46 |
cobcorn |
pitriss: resolution change? |
| 17:48 |
sfan5 |
cobcorn: the resolution has no effect on that |
| 17:48 |
pitriss |
Krock: thanks. |
| 17:48 |
pitriss |
cobcorn: thats not solution for me.. :) |
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Calinou |
impossible |
| 18:01 |
Krock |
? |
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blaise |
anyone care to mention some mods that a server simply cannot do without ? |
| 18:35 |
rubenwardy |
default |
| 18:35 |
rubenwardy |
:P |
| 18:35 |
PenguinDad |
we, areas or landrush and maptools, these are essential mods for a server imo |
| 18:35 |
rubenwardy |
Depends on the server. WorldEdit. Some form of protection. |
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PenguinDad |
rubenwardy: a nodetopia server doesn't need default :P |
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blaise |
are node_owner and areas able to coexist? |
| 18:57 |
Calinou |
<blaise> anyone care to mention some mods that a server simply cannot do without ? |
| 18:57 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 18:57 |
Calinou |
WorldEdit, MapTools |
| 18:57 |
VanessaE |
get rid of node_owner |
| 18:57 |
VanessaE |
it's outdated. |
| 18:57 |
Calinou |
both are bundled in Carbone |
| 18:57 |
Calinou |
there's an area lock mod in Carbone too |
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sfan5 |
>http://www.speedtest.net/result/3695577984.png |
| 19:18 |
sfan5 |
pls |
| 19:18 |
sfan5 |
Grade: F+ |
| 19:18 |
sfan5 |
quality internet in 2014 from Telekom |
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| 19:20 |
Calinou |
this is speedtest.net |
| 19:21 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 19:21 |
sfan5 |
speedof.me has the same result |
| 19:21 |
Calinou |
speedof.me works like crap on fast connections |
| 19:21 |
Calinou |
most people with fiber trash it :P |
| 19:21 |
sfan5 |
tell me what to use |
| 19:21 |
Calinou |
despite claiming to be the most accurate speed test |
| 19:21 |
Calinou |
http://testdebit.info/ |
| 19:21 |
Calinou |
wget a file |
| 19:21 |
Calinou |
or upload using FTP |
| 19:22 |
Calinou |
https://iperf.fr/ maybe too |
| 19:22 |
sfan5 |
I don't need to test my upload, I know it's bad because of torrents |
| 19:22 |
Flipsels |
both are ookla tests :) |
| 19:23 |
Flipsels |
(speedtest & testdebit) |
| 19:25 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: 100%[======================================>] 12.500.000 646KB/s in 21s |
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sfan5 |
( http://proof.ovh.net/files/100Mb.dat ) |
| 19:25 |
Calinou |
Flipsels, how do you know? |
| 19:26 |
Flipsels |
the speedtest app on android says ookla, the testdebit.info says it on the site |
| 19:26 |
Flipsels |
Oh, speedtest.net too |
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ispn |
sfan5: posting results from slicing in thread, with screenshots. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9923&start=25 |
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sfan5 |
ispn: wow, *looks* |
| 19:37 |
sfan5 |
o |
| 19:37 |
sfan5 |
look |
| 19:37 |
sfan5 |
a q66 |
| 19:38 |
* PenguinDad |
quaks at q66 :P |
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| 19:41 |
BlockBuilder99 |
Hi |
| 19:41 |
sfan5 |
hi |
| 19:41 |
BlockBuilder99 |
i have some questionns about MineTest,,, |
| 19:41 |
sfan5 |
just ask |
| 19:41 |
LemonLake |
ask away |
| 19:41 |
BlockBuilder99 |
lemme get my souirces |
| 19:42 |
BlockBuilder99 |
*sources |
| 19:42 |
LemonLake |
got some in the cupboard, do you like ketchup? |
| 19:42 |
BlockBuilder99 |
i hate red stuff |
| 19:42 |
BlockBuilder99 |
cant stand it |
| 19:42 |
LemonLake |
i see |
| 19:42 |
BlockBuilder99 |
anyway, trees |
| 19:42 |
ispn |
sfan5: 3d prints tomorrow hopefully, should be no problem at this stage. Glad as hell it works :D Thanks man! PM forum to claim your prize :> |
| 19:42 |
LemonLake |
well in my client my name happens to be red so.. im say now |
| 19:42 |
LemonLake |
s/say/sad/ |
| 19:42 |
BlockBuilder99 |
oh sorry LemonLake |
| 19:42 |
LemonLake |
nah nah man |
| 19:43 |
LemonLake |
'tis chill |
| 19:43 |
BlockBuilder99 |
You make me forget |
| 19:43 |
BlockBuilder99 |
trees |
| 19:43 |
LemonLake |
tree... |
| 19:43 |
LemonLake |
s. |
| 19:43 |
BlockBuilder99 |
Is there smth like treecapitator for MC? |
| 19:43 |
Flipsels |
the wooden thingies |
| 19:43 |
sfan5 |
lol |
| 19:43 |
LemonLake |
there are many of those |
| 19:43 |
LemonLake |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4772 |
| 19:43 |
LemonLake |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1590 |
| 19:43 |
sfan5 |
ispn: is the "prize" the 3D modeling thingy? |
| 19:44 |
PenguinDad |
I prefer TreeCapacitors :P |
| 19:44 |
ispn |
sfan5: or drawing, yeah. |
| 19:44 |
LemonLake |
Capacitor? |
| 19:44 |
LemonLake |
So there are capacitors made out of trees now? |
| 19:44 |
BlockBuilder99 |
I'm sure someone could come up with why they are |
| 19:45 |
LemonLake |
speaking of drawing, i should probably make another minim soon |
| 19:45 |
LemonLake |
though at this rate they're hardly minims |
| 19:45 |
LemonLake |
they look more just like regular vectors |
| 19:46 |
BlockBuilder99 |
Actually i do want the ketchup |
| 19:46 |
sfan5 |
ispn: can 3d printed structures have different colors? |
| 19:46 |
LemonLake |
next up is ms. yandere |
| 19:47 |
user____1 |
what is up |
| 19:47 |
LemonLake |
some clouds |
| 19:47 |
ispn |
sfan5: Depends. Some technologies take color data, but they are expensive. FFF (the reprap kind of machines that spew plastic from hot nozzle) can take as much materials as they have nozzles. Usually 2, and no mixing. |
| 19:47 |
LemonLake |
maybe a sky |
| 19:47 |
LemonLake |
depends on your religious beliefs |
| 19:48 |
ispn |
sfan5: there are printers that have 6 nozzles, but it's problematic, they drool hot plastic all over the print since they have no valves. |
| 19:48 |
Highlander_ |
hey |
| 19:48 |
LemonLake |
yuno's a difficult one... |
| 19:48 |
sfan5 |
sounds like 3d printers still need many improving |
| 19:48 |
BlockBuilder99 |
Hi Highlander_ |
| 19:48 |
Highlander_ |
hi |
| 19:48 |
sfan5 |
ispn: so you'll be doing 1-color modeling with the kids then? |
| 19:49 |
ispn |
sfan5: so for FFF it's 2 colors max, preferably 1 and soluble support. |
| 19:49 |
ispn |
sfan5: kids are cool, they can paint those things later for extra fun :) |
| 19:49 |
sfan5 |
sounds interesting |
| 19:49 |
LemonLake |
flippin heck, she has so many colour schemes |
| 19:49 |
Highlander_ |
lol kids are nice apart from when they turn into teenagers. |
| 19:49 |
Calinou |
consumer 3D printing is recent |
| 19:49 |
sfan5 |
Highlander_: depends |
| 19:50 |
Calinou |
expect at least 5 years to have mature ones |
| 19:50 |
sfan5 |
Highlander_: ..on the maturity |
| 19:50 |
Highlander_ |
mine just got angsty as fudge. |
| 19:50 |
Calinou |
fun fact: you can print in metal, chocolate… |
| 19:50 |
LemonLake |
Highlander_: welcome to puberty |
| 19:50 |
Highlander_ |
Yeah it took till I think they were 15 - 16 before they started to become mature. |
| 19:50 |
LemonLake |
Calinou: im sold |
| 19:50 |
ispn |
Highlander_: i know one guy that got his kids angry with the world instead of the family, it was epic. |
| 19:50 |
* Calinou |
buys LemonLake |
| 19:50 |
Highlander_ |
lol i've had 2 kids I know what it's like |
| 19:50 |
Highlander_ |
oh loool |
| 19:50 |
LemonLake |
Calinou: That's... |
| 19:50 |
LemonLake |
Really not what I meant. |
| 19:50 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: fun fact: there is a japanese game show where people have to figure out whether (ordinary) stuff is made out of chocolate |
| 19:51 |
ispn |
sfan5: fuck yeah japanese game shows :D |
| 19:51 |
sfan5 |
:D :D |
| 19:51 |
LemonLake |
sfan5: I saw that. |
| 19:51 |
LemonLake |
'twas really messed up. |
| 19:51 |
Highlander_ |
trading ctcps sfan5 eh? |
| 19:52 |
sfan5 |
Highlander_: you started |
| 19:52 |
sfan5 |
LemonLake: nah |
| 19:52 |
Calinou |
<ispn> Highlander_: i know one guy that got his kids angry with the world instead of the family, it was epic. |
| 19:52 |
Calinou |
uh? |
| 19:52 |
Highlander_ |
i'm curious if anyone else was using irssi |
| 19:52 |
LemonLake |
sirsrisriisrisrirriiisirsr |
| 19:52 |
PenguinDad |
CTCP == Cat to Cat protocol :D |
| 19:52 |
Highlander_ |
lol true ^ |
| 19:54 |
Calinou |
HexChat here |
| 19:54 |
LemonLake |
^ |
| 19:54 |
PenguinDad |
WeeChat here |
| 19:54 |
* sfan5 |
yays at Calinou (same, HexChat here too) |
| 19:54 |
Calinou |
PonyChat. |
| 19:55 |
Highlander_ |
Hey nice someone with a CLI client, nice one PenguinDad |
| 19:56 |
sfan5 |
LemonLake: http://i.imgur.com/wfD1bUp.gif |
| 19:56 |
LemonLake |
cool |
| 19:56 |
sfan5 |
LemonLake: http://i.imgur.com/nrYvnwG.jpg |
| 19:57 |
LemonLake |
> teen |
| 19:57 |
LemonLake |
> teeen |
| 19:57 |
Calinou |
WeeChat 1.0 was released 2 days ago |
| 19:57 |
sfan5 |
ok, I have other things to do... |
| 19:58 |
sfan5 |
LemonLake: http://www.reddit.com/r/JapaneseGameShows |
| 20:00 |
LemonLake |
agh |
| 20:00 |
LemonLake |
I'll draw later |
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BlockBuilder99 |
Highlander_: I use irssi |
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Highlander_ |
niice |
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basilgohar |
Is connecting a technic grinder with a technic electric furnace supposed to allow ground items to flow automatically? |
| 20:09 |
basilgohar |
Or does that need an external mesecon signal to trigger the "pumping" action? |
| 20:11 |
blaise |
how to I change initial privliges? |
| 20:11 |
blaise |
so I can give everyone areas privliges |
| 20:11 |
VanessaE |
blaise: don't give ANYONE the areas priv! |
| 20:11 |
VanessaE |
that's for admins. |
| 20:11 |
blaise |
lol |
| 20:12 |
blaise |
great |
| 20:12 |
blaise |
how do I take it away? |
| 20:12 |
blaise |
"/grant someone -areas" ? |
| 20:12 |
VanessaE |
/revoke <user> <priv> |
| 20:13 |
VanessaE |
if you want to allow users to self-protect, turn that feature on specifically ( areas.self_protection = true in minetest.conf ) |
| 20:13 |
* BlockBuilder99 |
is bored |
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raffahacks |
Hi VanessaE |
| 20:13 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 20:13 |
BlockBuilder99 |
Cya all! |
| 20:14 |
blaise |
ah, it already was |
| 20:14 |
blaise |
k |
| 20:16 |
basilgohar |
I meant connecting the grinder with the furnace via tubes.. |
| 20:17 |
VanessaE |
basilgohar: I believe you have to use mesecons signals to keep the items pumping, or upgrade your grinder et al. I seem to remember there being upgrade slots in them to take a controller chip |
| 20:20 |
raffahacks |
How much ram does minetest take? Less than 500? |
| 20:20 |
VanessaE |
depends on what you're doing |
| 20:21 |
VanessaE |
a basic game should do fair on 512MB |
| 20:21 |
VanessaE |
large texture packs like HDX can take 6-8 GB on older Minetest installs (less on newer versions) |
| 20:21 |
VanessaE |
depends on the game you play and a lot more |
| 20:21 |
Calinou |
server is gentle on RAM |
| 20:24 |
raffahacks |
How much does minetest download before connecting to an average heavy server for the first time online? |
| 20:27 |
VanessaE |
depends on the server. |
| 20:28 |
VanessaE |
my vanilla server, which is minetest_game plus only a small number of lightweight mods, only has about 4.8 MB of media to send. |
| 20:28 |
VanessaE |
meanwhile, Dreambuilder-based servers have around 35 MB of media. |
| 20:29 |
raffahacks |
VanessaE: for example, yours |
| 20:29 |
VanessaE |
(e.g. my Survival server) |
| 20:29 |
raffahacks |
Wow, just 5mb |
| 20:29 |
VanessaE |
mmhmm. |
| 20:29 |
raffahacks |
What is vanilla |
| 20:30 |
PenguinDad |
raffahacks: vanilla is tasty :P |
| 20:30 |
VanessaE |
digitalaudioconcepts.com port 30005 |
| 20:30 |
VanessaE |
it's my lightweight server for lower-end machines and tablets etc. |
| 20:31 |
Sokomine |
irks. just digged some wheat on desert sand soil - and the whole field started tumbling downward. seems desert sand soil inherited the falling property? |
| 20:31 |
VanessaE |
why wouldn't it? |
| 20:31 |
VanessaE |
it's still sand :P |
| 20:32 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/Jeija/planether/issues/4 |
| 20:32 |
Calinou |
I won |
| 20:32 |
* Calinou |
hallelujah |
| 20:33 |
Sokomine |
how am i supposed to make it stay wet now and let plants grow? i placed water below the field via mapgen...and was hoping that'd work |
| 20:33 |
* PenguinDad |
hands Calinou a cookie |
| 20:33 |
Sokomine |
might still work with water 1 more below. hm. or a special soil for the villages? not much point in having abms running anyway. hm |
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VanessaE |
Sokomine: offtopic... seen this yet? http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/homedecor-crafting-guide/homedecor-craft-guide.html |
| 20:34 |
VanessaE |
(brag) |
| 20:34 |
VanessaE |
Sokomine: most people put dirt water dirt water .... side by side |
| 20:34 |
VanessaE |
with a base of dirt or stone. |
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| 20:35 |
Sokomine |
vanessae: yes, of course i have :-) it's a very nice, through documentation. if all mods where documented like that, we'd have less problems |
| 20:35 |
Sokomine |
vanessae: still, homedecor got BIG. without a good crafting guide, it's difficult to craft all the stuff. i hope to eventually get around to teach my traders to sell homedecor items. perhaps for gold or silver ingots or the like |
| 20:36 |
VanessaE |
which is why I made a good crafting guide :D |
| 20:36 |
Sokomine |
then players might go to a shop in their singleplayer world and buy their furniture :-) |
| 20:36 |
Sokomine |
yes. the html documentation supplements the craft guide, which can only show the receipes and items as such, but not provide additional information |
| 20:37 |
* Sokomine |
puts a few used glasses in the dishwasher |
| 20:37 |
VanessaE |
I should make that thing functional. |
| 20:37 |
Sokomine |
make that html-craftguide universal :-) someone pointed to a script for that (afaik written by cornernote?) |
| 20:38 |
VanessaE |
(but who would define "dirty glass" in their mod? :P ) |
| 20:38 |
Sokomine |
*g* rather unlikely, yes. seems players occasinally need a bit of...glass...to remain healthy. a glass of apple juice leads to the entire glass disappearing... |
| 20:38 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 20:38 |
Sokomine |
either we drink it or we throw it away immediately after use. very strange anyway :-) |
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VanessaE |
pretty sad considering I provided a recycle path in the vessels mod. |
| 20:40 |
Sokomine |
*nod* |
| 20:40 |
VanessaE |
but it doesn't help that the engine doesn't handle craft replacements correctly. |
| 20:41 |
VanessaE |
(if you craft a whole bunch of something, you only ever get one item back for a given replacement entry even if you are owed a large number) |
| 20:43 |
Sokomine |
machines may help... |
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BlockBuilder99 |
Hi |
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| 21:02 |
Calinou |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Minetest/comments/2cve2v/random_question_out_of_curiosity/ |
| 21:02 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 21:02 |
Calinou |
made my day… :\ |
| 21:02 |
VanessaE |
^^^^ send them to my FreeForAll server. |
| 21:03 |
VanessaE |
seems like that's exactly what he wants. |
| 21:03 |
VanessaE |
the only rule there is no foul language. |
| 21:03 |
Calinou |
no, he's really into politics |
| 21:03 |
VanessaE |
everything else goes. |
| 21:03 |
Calinou |
see the comment at the bottom |
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| 21:03 |
Calinou |
I'll post comment about your FFA server anyway |
| 21:04 |
gerard |
Is there Flux for linux? |
| 21:04 |
Calinou |
but I got bored of that kind of server :( due to empathy, lol |
| 21:04 |
Calinou |
on Minecraft I used to play a lot on hardcore PvP servers, grief, kill |
| 21:04 |
Calinou |
now I feel bad when doing it :< |
| 21:04 |
Calinou |
gerard, there's redshift |
| 21:04 |
VanessaE |
FFA is port 30006 I think |
| 21:04 |
Calinou |
which does the same thing (decrease brightness at night) |
| 21:05 |
gerard |
Well, it's colour but ok aha |
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| 21:06 |
gerard |
I used to play servers a lot and just talk so much that I became friends with the top players then the owner- and become a Mod :) |
| 21:06 |
gerard |
I was also the richest on a big server, selling Golden Apples to the shop |
| 21:07 |
gerard |
Calinou, is there a good PvP/grief server? |
| 21:07 |
reactor |
grief server |
| 21:07 |
reactor |
Where everyone's sad. |
| 21:08 |
gerard |
Well it's usually factions on Minecraft so only if your faction's weak :P |
| 21:08 |
gerard |
Or your friends with admins and have unlimited TNT to make canons.. |
| 21:09 |
Calinou |
VanessaE's server |
| 21:09 |
Calinou |
doesn't have much players, but better than nothing |
| 21:09 |
Calinou |
an hardcore PvP server works really well when it has dozens of players |
| 21:10 |
Calinou |
(ideally, players that aren't mobile clients, so that excludes the “just test†server) |
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| 21:10 |
gerard |
Damn, redshift stays open for 2seconds then closes itself |
| 21:10 |
Calinou |
gerard, the problem with most Minecraft _and_ Minetest servers is that they don't encourage interaction; that way, multiplayer is mostly about chatting, and not cooperating. :( |
| 21:10 |
Calinou |
so that's why it gets boring |
| 21:10 |
Calinou |
<reactor> Where everyone's sad. |
| 21:10 |
Calinou |
where everyone cheats… |
| 21:11 |
reactor |
Cheating == sad? |
| 21:11 |
gerard |
But with the Faction plugin it is |
| 21:11 |
reactor |
The problem is most players whine about privileges and gimme this gimme that and teleport mee as soon as they join. |
| 21:12 |
gerard |
Only in small servers :/ All Minetest ones |
| 21:16 |
reactor |
щ? |
| 21:19 |
Calinou |
run an unlisted server |
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| 21:19 |
Calinou |
one that isn't on the list |
| 21:19 |
Calinou |
post it on forums |
| 21:21 |
gerard |
I don't know whether the community should be young because it's free or older because it's harder to find and will have people who like FOSS(?) |
| 21:22 |
Calinou |
because it's a Minecraft-like game |
| 21:22 |
reactor |
Probably same proportion. |
| 21:22 |
Calinou |
Minecraft is an universal kid glue |
| 21:22 |
Calinou |
so all the “clones†behave the same way |
| 21:23 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/MovingBlocks/Terasology/issues/1175 |
| 21:23 |
Calinou |
this isn't better on Terasology either |
| 21:24 |
gerard |
First server I went on had an 8,9 and 11 year old aha |
| 21:24 |
gerard |
Oh lord they made an account for that? |
| 21:24 |
reactor |
The problem with forums is, they have to be accessed via clumsy web-interface. |
| 21:25 |
gerard |
Why do all forum sites seem like theyre atleast 4 years old, or more |
| 21:25 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/MovingBlocks/Terasology/issues/1167 |
| 21:25 |
Calinou |
this one too, lol |
| 21:26 |
reactor |
Because web inteface is a meintenance hell. |
| 21:26 |
reactor |
maint* |
| 21:26 |
reactor |
Mailing lists rule. |
| 21:26 |
reactor |
You can use any interface you like with mail. |
| 21:27 |
gerard |
They all seem to be the same design, can't remember what its called now |
| 21:27 |
reactor |
It's called 'I will confuse the hell outa you'. |
| 21:28 |
gerard |
"vBulletin" ? |
| 21:29 |
reactor |
I believe MT forums use phpBB |
| 21:29 |
gerard |
This is just terrible http://www.mpgh.net/ |
| 21:30 |
gerard |
And the content |
| 21:30 |
reactor |
Yes. |
| 21:31 |
reactor |
"O tempora o mores!", eh. |
| 21:33 |
gerard |
People really spend so much time bruteforcing Minecraft accounts... sad |
| 21:33 |
gerard |
Probably mostly kids they're taking accounts from |
| 21:34 |
reactor |
Heh. |
| 21:34 |
reactor |
And still no protection against that?! |
| 21:35 |
LemonLake |
How would you protect it? |
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| 21:37 |
gerard |
They have to sign in with email now! |
| 21:37 |
LemonLake |
yeah, that's mojang being mojang |
| 21:37 |
LemonLake |
it's a pain in the ass to get on classic now |
| 21:38 |
gerard |
You can still play classic? :) |
| 21:42 |
reactor |
LemonLake: timeout |
| 21:42 |
reactor |
3 attempts -- wait 10 minutes |
| 21:43 |
reactor |
That'd slow them down _considerably_. |
| 21:50 |
Sokomine |
lemoncake: there's that classicube client now. it works better than the old classic client. sadly, people seem to no longer beeing able to locate that, so mc classic servers got very empty |
| 21:51 |
ispn |
reactor: true about mailing lists. But email in present form sucks. Tool from different times. There are no good solutions at present. |
| 21:52 |
reactor |
How does mail suck? |
| 21:52 |
reactor |
It does the job just fine. |
| 21:53 |
ispn |
reactor: when you don't have to keep the mailing list spam free, then yes. |
| 21:53 |
reactor |
Oh you mean that... |
| 21:53 |
reactor |
That is a problem, yes. |
| 21:54 |
ispn |
reactor: plaintext by default. People with messy webmails and coding that %*&3propagates d&9wn the whole thread |
| 21:54 |
reactor |
What's the problem with plaintext? |
| 21:55 |
reactor |
It _is_ good that it's plaintext by default. |
| 21:55 |
reactor |
Nobody wants all that HTML cruft in there. |
| 21:55 |
ispn |
reactor: I meant lack of encryption |
| 21:55 |
reactor |
That is the problem of mail servers. |
| 21:56 |
ispn |
reactor: it is a tool for experienced people, a tool that should be taught, yet no one does that. |
| 21:56 |
ispn |
reactor: no ,of users who send plaintext. |
| 21:56 |
reactor |
People better read manuals. |
| 21:56 |
ispn |
reactor: email is badly neglected |
| 21:57 |
ispn |
reactor: if world worked that way, 60% of the population would be writing code, or at least doing awesome stuff. |
| 21:57 |
reactor |
Then what are they doing? Are they supposed to be using devices as complicated as computers anyway? |
| 21:58 |
ispn |
reactor: reality is such that >60% of people are lemmings, and they dictate stuff by being a brainless, impulsive elongation of their wallets. |
| 21:58 |
reactor |
Developed countries lack agricultural workers, just saying. |
| 21:58 |
ispn |
reactor: no, but there's no one to stop them. Millions are being spent so that they can do that more magically (touch interfaces) |
| 21:59 |
reactor |
Exactly, what are they supposed to do with technology? |
| 21:59 |
ispn |
(use computers) |
| 21:59 |
reactor |
You let them in -- they fuck you up. |
| 21:59 |
ispn |
reactor: facebook, twitter, porn |
| 21:59 |
ispn |
reactor: youtube |
| 21:59 |
Calinou |
Classic is completely worthless in 2014 |
| 21:59 |
reactor |
This has already happened ^ |
| 21:59 |
Calinou |
Minetest beats it in every way, since 2011 |
| 22:00 |
ispn |
reactor: exactly, and in recent years is being monetized through targeted ads and other crazy stuff. THousands of startups for that. |
| 22:00 |
Calinou |
“monetized†:/ |
| 22:00 |
ispn |
Calinou: sorry if that;s not a work in ENglish :) |
| 22:00 |
reactor |
Dystopian consumerism. |
| 22:01 |
reactor |
Nobody can come up with ways to fix it, nobody bothers to. |
| 22:01 |
ispn |
reactor: kind of, yeah, depends on the mindset. For some it's a world of possibilities. |
| 22:01 |
Calinou |
it is, but I believe it's a bad word when it's used to mean “convert something into moneyâ€: it supposes money is what really counts |
| 22:01 |
ispn |
reactor: it takes away scruples and prioritizes aims. |
| 22:01 |
gerard |
Can you run a .jar rather than opening as an archive? |
| 22:01 |
Calinou |
“monetize†can mean “use as currency†|
| 22:02 |
Calinou |
gerard, java -jar <jarname> |
| 22:02 |
ispn |
Calinou: in that case it is, used it on purpose. |
| 22:02 |
reactor |
Of course one can make money on lemmings. |
| 22:03 |
reactor |
But that backfires -- they will have to buy stupider devices for their own apartment. |
| 22:03 |
reactor |
Just because companies making proper stuff go bankrupt -- nobody buys it. |
| 22:03 |
reactor |
s/ --/:/ |
| 22:03 |
ispn |
reactor: Depends on how you do it. Saw Facebook backlash when they invaded privacy by introducing features? |
| 22:04 |
gerard |
Too little memory to run the MC launcher xD |
| 22:04 |
reactor |
ispn: heard of it, yes. |
| 22:04 |
reactor |
that* |
| 22:05 |
ispn |
reactor: people don't see the environment as oppressive. THey get along. Change that, require them to stop being stupid, and they will conform. They will become clever out of laziness. |
| 22:06 |
ispn |
reactor: closing stuff up, making it dumber and more limited is the way to go. |
| 22:06 |
ispn |
reactor: it will backfire sooner or later. |
| 22:06 |
reactor |
Somebody _wants_ them to be stupid. |
| 22:07 |
Exio4 |
argument of why apple rocks: because i've more nice stuff preinstalled |
| 22:07 |
ispn |
reactor: yes, and it's a good thing, I think. THe way to make a human resistant to being used, is to use him beyond his acceptable boundaries. |
| 22:07 |
ispn |
reactor: no other way |
| 22:07 |
Exio4 |
i said, "but why're you paying so much if you could do that with half or less the money?" -> "because they have it by default" |
| 22:08 |
gerard |
"There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to continue" schweet |
| 22:08 |
reactor |
gerard: Java. |
| 22:08 |
gerard |
oui? |
| 22:10 |
ispn |
Exio4: you could actually calculate that, make a list, make a hourly wage for yourself that would take into consideration preinstalling stuff, and make a good calculation which of the options is better in which scenario. |
| 22:10 |
ispn |
Exio4: saying such a thing, you are relying on instincts, the precise thing that is a target of marketing. |
| 22:11 |
reactor |
Or you can type in a couple commands, and there you go -- everything installed, for free! |
| 22:12 |
ispn |
reactor: and modifiable |
| 22:12 |
reactor |
Indeed. |
| 22:12 |
reactor |
You can peek into it, study it, fix it. |
| 22:12 |
ispn |
reactor: what no other machine has is optimization of interface. Not to the degree FLOSS has, ever. |
| 22:13 |
gerard |
k i dunt get iyt, imagow |
| 22:13 |
ispn |
reactor: People using Zbrush get hyped up that they can launch other programs from Zbrush without having to export-import stuff, saving precious time. It's a huge technological advancement no other software has, you see. /sarcasm |
| 22:13 |
reactor |
gerard: гДПЮБЯРБСИРЕ! |
| 22:15 |
reactor |
! |
| 22:16 |
ispn |
off to sleep |
| 22:17 |
reactor |
G'night! |
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gerard |
Do I need to do "java -jar JARNAME" everytime? |
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MinetestBot |
realtinymonster: 06-14 17:44 UTC <Krock> I know. |
| 22:39 |
realtinymonster |
lol |
| 22:39 |
realtinymonster |
so long ago |
| 22:39 |
realtinymonster |
I have the greatest timing |
| 22:40 |
realtinymonster |
I was just coming to talk with PenguinDad |
| 22:40 |
realtinymonster |
:/ |
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realtinymonster |
yay! that was fast |
| 22:40 |
* PenguinDad |
looks at the logs |
| 22:41 |
realtinymonster |
thanks PenguinDad for the optipng commit to gitpack |
| 22:41 |
PenguinDad |
realtinymonster: no problem |
| 22:43 |
realtinymonster |
I need to find a person that is willing to convert gitpack to minecraft format in #minecraft... doubt i'll have much luck, most of those guys are quite some asses |
| 22:46 |
PenguinDad |
TIL "-march=native -O2" is often faster than "-march=native -O3" |
| 22:48 |
rayn_ |
thats |
| 22:48 |
rayn_ |
p well documented |
| 22:48 |
PenguinDad |
As if I would read the docs :D |
| 22:49 |
rayn_ |
-Os is even faster |
| 22:49 |
rayn_ |
you should always use that |
| 22:50 |
Vazon |
Sokomine: i have come across a problem with the colormachine mod |
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LemonLake |
yo yo sup |
| 23:00 |
PenguinDad |
Hey LemonLake |
| 23:00 |
LemonLake |
do you get an award for creating the most boring game logo? |
| 23:07 |
blaise |
hey, what ever happened to the stargate mod ? |
| 23:08 |
LemonLake |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2135 this one? |
| 23:08 |
blaise |
did it get abandoned in favor of something better? |
| 23:08 |
blaise |
https://github.com/minetest-technic/stargate |
| 23:08 |
blaise |
that one |
| 23:08 |
LemonLake |
I can only guess |
| 23:09 |
LemonLake |
Geez, I'm probably the worst developer. I forgotten how to get a resource in the engine for my own (kinda) game. |
| 23:10 |
blaise |
I have a problem with the areas mod |
| 23:10 |
blaise |
:\ |
| 23:11 |
LemonLake |
What's your problem? |
| 23:11 |
blaise |
if the server crashes, or get's shut down |
| 23:11 |
blaise |
peoples areas nodes vanish |
| 23:11 |
blaise |
and they have to set them again |
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realtinymonster |
yo LemonLake |
| 23:21 |
LemonLake |
yoo rtm! |
| 23:21 |
LemonLake |
sup? |
| 23:22 |
realtinymonster |
nm, you? |
| 23:22 |
realtinymonster |
starting school again on wednesday |
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| 23:22 |
LemonLake |
not much, been wasting the holidays with anime, drawing and sleep |
| 23:23 |
LemonLake |
0% productivity :P |
| 23:23 |
realtinymonster |
pretty much the same, except replace drawing with building a house |
| 23:23 |
LemonLake |
building a house? :o |
| 23:23 |
realtinymonster |
ay |
| 23:23 |
LemonLake |
like, a real house? |
| 23:23 |
realtinymonster |
yeah |
| 23:24 |
LemonLake |
nice |
| 23:24 |
LemonLake |
that's more fun than drawing :D |
| 23:24 |
realtinymonster |
56,000 sq. ft. |
| 23:24 |
realtinymonster |
~ |
| 23:24 |
LemonLake |
that's pretty neat |
| 23:24 |
LemonLake |
"Debug Assertion Failed!" << that right there is my life in a nutshell |
| 23:25 |
realtinymonster |
lol |
| 23:25 |
realtinymonster |
what engine? |
| 23:26 |
realtinymonster |
^ LemonLake |
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| 23:28 |
lemonlake_ |
dang |
| 23:28 |
lemonlake_ |
my internet just took a dump on itsel |
| 23:28 |
lemonlake_ |
f |
| 23:29 |
blaise |
on, itself?! |
| 23:29 |
lemonlake_ |
<realtinymonster> what engine? |
| 23:29 |
lemonlake_ |
<LemonLake> SFML |
| 23:29 |
lemonlake_ |
<LemonLake> I'm the codev of the game, and I'm really unaffiliated with the setup since I haven't worked on it in a while |
| 23:29 |
lemonlake_ |
yes |
| 23:29 |
blaise |
what game? |
| 23:29 |
lemonlake_ |
Bread Hunter |
| 23:29 |
lemonlake_ |
It's nothing special yet |
| 23:30 |
blaise |
is that anything like bread cat? |
| 23:30 |
LemonLake |
Never heard of it |
| 23:30 |
blaise |
what about star citizen ? |
| 23:30 |
LemonLake |
Ditto. |
| 23:30 |
blaise |
eve online ? |
| 23:30 |
LemonLake |
In no way. |
| 23:30 |
blaise |
rise of the triad? |
| 23:30 |
blaise |
duke nukem? |
| 23:30 |
LemonLake |
Think of it like an RPG/multiplayer shooter mix |
| 23:30 |
blaise |
lemmings? |
| 23:31 |
LemonLake |
But it's a game where nothing makes sense |
| 23:31 |
LemonLake |
The land of lack of fucks |
| 23:31 |
blaise |
how about wolfenstien? |
| 23:31 |
LemonLake |
I can't really compare it to anything. |
| 23:31 |
blaise |
doom? |
| 23:31 |
realtinymonster |
LemonLake: LOL |
| 23:31 |
blaise |
compare? |
| 23:31 |
LemonLake |
Yes. |
| 23:31 |
LemonLake |
I can't necessarily compare it to anything. |
| 23:31 |
realtinymonster |
screenies? |
| 23:31 |
blaise |
I was just wondering if you had heard of anything, ever.. |
| 23:31 |
LemonLake |
I'd give you screenies but the main menu is currently in development |
| 23:31 |
realtinymonster |
or not to sthat stage? |
| 23:31 |
realtinymonster |
ah |
| 23:32 |
LemonLake |
And I'm no pro at Guis, the other dev is gonna make that tomorrow. |
| 23:32 |
LemonLake |
Which means there's currently no entrance into the actual game |
| 23:33 |
realtinymonster |
ah |
| 23:33 |
realtinymonster |
can you hacked state launch it? |
| 23:34 |
LemonLake |
When I can solve this vector error, maybe. |
| 23:34 |
realtinymonster |
ah, cool |
| 23:35 |
LemonLake |
By the looks of it, it's simply me not clamping a value |
| 23:36 |
LemonLake |
That did it |
| 23:38 |
LemonLake |
TIL the game is conveniently divided into scenes |
| 23:38 |
FreeFull |
Is there a bed mod which has king-sized beds? |
| 23:38 |
FreeFull |
I'm thinking 3x2 |
| 23:39 |
VanessaE |
FreeFull: I could perhaps add such a thing to homedecor. |
| 23:39 |
FreeFull |
VanessaE: I'd be delighted if you would |
| 23:40 |
LemonLake |
realtinymonster: https://mediacru.sh/XT56MvPe__7U.png |
| 23:40 |
LemonLake |
I tell you now, that's a super temporary tower texture not made by me |
| 23:40 |
LemonLake |
And the player texture may be completely changed |
| 23:41 |
VanessaE |
"temporary" doesn't do it justice ;) |
| 23:41 |
LemonLake |
lol |
| 23:41 |
realtinymonster |
looks good, interesting cam angle |
| 23:42 |
FreeFull |
https://imgur.com/a/NMh3q Here are some screenshots from my current minetest world. Not too impressive, but still |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
nice |
| 23:42 |
FreeFull |
The tower and storage area were built today |
| 23:43 |
LemonLake |
that's a nice world you got there |
| 23:43 |
VanessaE |
"be a shame if something happened to it" ? |
| 23:43 |
VanessaE |
;) |
| 23:43 |
LemonLake |
true that |
| 23:44 |
FreeFull |
I don't have any mob mod or anything =P |
| 23:45 |
VanessaE |
hahaha |
| 23:45 |
FreeFull |
And I doubt you can go and do anything to it |
| 23:45 |
FreeFull |
Unless you add some destructive code to homedecor and I run it |
| 23:45 |
VanessaE |
no, you just gotta pay protection to c55 ;) |
| 23:45 |
VanessaE |
I'd never add destructive code to homedecor :) |
| 23:46 |
FreeFull |
Damn, now I miss c55's server again ): |
| 23:46 |
FreeFull |
I had builds there! |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
anyhow, I'll see what I can do later on about making a king size bed |
| 23:46 |
FreeFull |
Thanks |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
probably a "full" size also |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
(2x2) |
| 23:47 |
FreeFull |
I have candles in the bedroom, I think it gives a nice ambiance :) |
| 23:47 |
VanessaE |
3x2.... 3 wide or 3 long? I have a king and it's roughly equal in both directions |
| 23:48 |
FreeFull |
I was thinking 3 long |
| 23:48 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 23:48 |
VanessaE |
to my mind, that would be queen sized |
| 23:48 |
realtinymonster |
VanessaE: Queens must be long :P |
| 23:49 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 23:49 |
VanessaE |
I'll see what I can come up with. it'll be a few days at least though. taking a coding break. |
| 23:49 |
VanessaE |
(mostly) |
| 23:49 |
LemonLake |
aight |
| 23:50 |
LemonLake |
im gonna get some rest |
| 23:50 |
VanessaE |
cya |
| 23:50 |
LemonLake |
cya |
| 23:50 |
realtinymonster |
enjoy said rest |
| 23:58 |
realtinymonster |
for all that enjoy physics games and Lua: #powder |
