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| 00:14 |
Inocudom |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8489 |
| 00:15 |
Inocudom |
This new feature would be an ideal application for colors.txt to be used by. |
| 00:15 |
VanessaE |
he's more than welcome to use my colors.txt if he wants |
| 00:16 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 00:16 |
Inocudom |
You should tell him that in the topic (might want to give him a link too.) |
| 00:17 |
Inocudom |
That feature he is working on is something that will make navigating in Minetest much easier. |
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| 00:18 |
Inocudom |
There was a big, nasty coal ash spill into the Dan River in North Carolina recently. |
| 00:20 |
VanessaE |
dopne, |
| 00:20 |
VanessaE |
done. |
| 00:20 |
VanessaE |
oh my |
| 00:23 |
harrison |
i got a fundraising mail from the pulmonary blindness foundation |
| 00:23 |
harrison |
they are having a 24 hour breathathon |
| 00:23 |
harrison |
the slogan of which is |
| 00:23 |
harrison |
"Lung Time No See" |
| 00:27 |
Inocudom |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=129566#p129566 |
| 00:28 |
Inocudom |
I don't know if that server can survive an attack from a professional. |
| 00:29 |
Inocudom |
It's true. It's true. The month of February is cursed. Disasters, winter storms, and work extravaganzas are all over. |
| 00:30 |
Inocudom |
It looks like LandMine might tear stuff up this month too. |
| 00:31 |
Peacock |
tear stuff up? |
| 00:31 |
Inocudom |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=129566#p129566 He said so himself in this topic. |
| 00:32 |
Peacock |
meh, another argument for an optional, centralized player credentials system/server/we |
| 00:32 |
Peacock |
(we as in whatever, not world edit :P) |
| 00:36 |
Peacock |
though like mmdb, we should just use people's forum credentials |
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| 00:53 |
Inocudom |
I know of a channel on YouTube known as HarvestArmy. If you want to know what will happen to your location in the future, you best keep an eye on it. |
| 00:53 |
Peacock |
? |
| 00:55 |
Inocudom |
Gone are the days of happiness (not like things were ever happy on this planet anyway.) |
| 00:56 |
Peacock |
ah more end of the world apocalyptic stuff |
| 00:56 |
Peacock |
you know that shit's older than i am lol |
| 00:56 |
Inocudom |
Soon, the worlds of Minetest could be the only things worth looking at, while everything else is messed up. |
| 00:57 |
Inocudom |
This stuff is very old. Some originate in very old stories. |
| 00:58 |
Peacock |
what i find funny about all these survivalist wackos (like alex jones) is on the one hand they predict the collapse of the economy, and the dollar... on the other hand they try to sell you all this gear...what use would money be to them if they think it's going to be worthless? should be your first red flag right there |
| 00:58 |
PilzAdam |
the real world is by definition inferior to the world of Minetest, since it doesnt consist of voxels |
| 00:58 |
Inocudom |
However, that does not mean that they were just telling stories. |
| 00:59 |
PilzAdam |
topic of the day: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=129569#p129569 |
| 00:59 |
Inocudom |
I look to sources more trustworthy than Alex Jones (like ones that aren't alive anymore.) |
| 00:59 |
Peacock |
this stuff is designed to attract the clinically depressed and the paranoid, and there's no shortage of paranoid free software folk who think corporations are personally out to get *them* lol i guess thats why i hear more about this stuff here and on /. |
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PilzAdam |
thinking that the world will end in your lifetime is quite egocentric |
| 01:00 |
Inocudom |
That topic you just showed kindly reminded me that there are a lot if ignorant folks these days. |
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| 01:02 |
Peacock |
will it end in my lifetime? naw, will it get progressively worse? all signs point to yes lol but what can you do |
| 01:02 |
PilzAdam |
define "worse" |
| 01:02 |
Inocudom |
With what I am seeing in the world, I am certain that things will not improve, even if I live to be an old man. |
| 01:02 |
Peacock |
economy, environment, robotic wars |
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| 01:02 |
PilzAdam |
compared to the world a few million years ago this is quite a nice place |
| 01:03 |
Peacock |
hell you should know, how many countries in Germany propping up in the EU now? |
| 01:03 |
Peacock |
*is |
| 01:03 |
Inocudom |
The threat of a scientific dictatorship scares me. Remember well science fiction. |
| 01:03 |
Peacock |
hell an AI running things might not be such a bad thing, AI's can't be bought off like politicians, and they don't have ideologies |
| 01:04 |
Inocudom |
There were times in Earth's history when the planet was nearly made uninhabitable. |
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| 01:04 |
PilzAdam |
nearly? |
| 01:04 |
PilzAdam |
it was uninhabitable for millions of years |
| 01:05 |
Inocudom |
Advanced civilizations could have been wiped out that way. The moon and Mars do not lie. |
| 01:05 |
Peacock |
well we barely know anything beyond the past 2 or 3 thousand years, there might have been other advanced civilizations before that |
| 01:05 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, eh.. what? |
| 01:05 |
Peacock |
when you consider the roman empire and the dark ages and then the renaissance |
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| 01:06 |
Peacock |
dunno, life is pretty good if you live in a rich country, the rest of the world might as well still be in the dark ages |
| 01:06 |
PilzAdam |
LazyJ, network problems? |
| 01:07 |
Inocudom |
Modern man may think that his current civilization is the best there ever was in this solar system. However, the moon and Mars tell otherwise. If only you had a telescope that you could look at the moon with. |
| 01:07 |
LazyJ |
Wiped my hard drive without backing up my Xchat configuration. Starting/stopping trying to piece it back together. |
| 01:07 |
Inocudom |
You would find the moon to be a rather interesting place. |
| 01:07 |
LazyJ |
Sorry for the interruptions. |
| 01:08 |
PilzAdam |
Inocudom, no signs of life at the moon, except some mirrors and an american flag |
| 01:08 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, the funny thing is, you dont actually know if the rest of the world even exists |
| 01:09 |
Peacock |
by that same logic you can't know for sure if history went down the way it says in the books :P |
| 01:09 |
PilzAdam |
of course |
| 01:09 |
PilzAdam |
the only thing I know that I exist in this exact moment |
| 01:09 |
Inocudom |
History as we know it is not the true history. |
| 01:09 |
PilzAdam |
+is |
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| 01:10 |
Inocudom |
Well, if you ever do find a good telescope, look around on the moon's surface. |
| 01:11 |
PilzAdam |
Descartes had the interesting theory of a not lying god to prove that the world arround us is real |
| 01:11 |
PilzAdam |
but that is a weak point in his ideas |
| 01:12 |
Inocudom |
Relativity is the big belief of today's society. Not by accident either. |
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| 01:13 |
Inocudom |
Big storms have struck Europe throughout this entire winter. Floods and hurricane-force winds have become the norm? |
| 01:14 |
Inocudom |
Europe and Asia seem like the most dangerous areas on this planet right now. |
| 01:14 |
PilzAdam |
not at all |
| 01:14 |
PilzAdam |
the growing power of media just creates this illusion of "things getting worse" |
| 01:15 |
Inocudom |
Britains getting flooded pretty good. Highest rain in 245 years I heard. |
| 01:15 |
PilzAdam |
in many places in germany weather is recorded since <120 years |
| 01:16 |
PilzAdam |
so we dont have enough data to prove any trend to the "worse" |
| 01:16 |
PilzAdam |
in fact, the data we have, proves all the global-warming theorists wrong |
| 01:17 |
Inocudom |
A different scenario is unfolding. Global warming was fabricated for the purposes of the powers that be. |
| 01:17 |
PilzAdam |
all the models about the global warming have forecast an increase of the mean temperature, that we currently dont measure at all |
| 01:17 |
Peacock |
you just need to look around youtube footage of hurricanes and snowstorms in the 60s to realize we've always had unpredictable weather :P |
| 01:18 |
Inocudom |
I know that disasters have always been on this planet. These days see more of them, however. |
| 01:18 |
PilzAdam |
weather actually is predictable, we just dont have the computing power |
| 01:19 |
PilzAdam |
Inocudom, you "see" more these days because the media shows them to you |
| 01:19 |
Inocudom |
Well, anyway, nature is not what I fear the most. The powers that run this world are. |
| 01:21 |
PilzAdam |
the "powers that run this world" are more distributed currently than during the cold war |
| 01:21 |
PilzAdam |
distribution of power is generally a good thing |
| 01:21 |
Peacock |
until everyone has nukes lol |
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| 01:23 |
Inocudom |
Never laugh at a nuclear bomb. Just one of them can cause lots of destruction. |
| 01:23 |
Peacock |
dunno, when you look at the history of the 20th century, we had the most prosperity when the US was in charge and Bretton Woods was in force |
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| 01:24 |
Peacock |
before that we had european imperialism that gave us two world wars and turned Africa and the Middle East into the messes they are today |
| 01:24 |
Inocudom |
Whereas these days the US could go under and even be invaded. |
| 01:25 |
Peacock |
are you kidding? have you looked at defense spending? lol |
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| 01:25 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, I agree that europe messed up africa, but it wasnt their fault |
| 01:26 |
PilzAdam |
it was unavoidable that sooner or later they had to form states, and thats what really messed africa up |
| 01:26 |
Peacock |
how is it not their fault? they basically let companies run entire countries/colonies |
| 01:27 |
Inocudom |
A country should never be run by a private corporation. |
| 01:27 |
Peacock |
and then with the liberal guilt of the 50's and 60's those gov'ts were hastily disassembled/turned over to dictators |
| 01:27 |
PilzAdam |
the concepts of dividing the world into "states" is made in the western world |
| 01:27 |
PilzAdam |
it doesnt work in other parts of the world very well |
| 01:28 |
Peacock |
well it might work if they created them themselves, but states were imposed on them |
| 01:28 |
PilzAdam |
humans always have the tendency to form small groups to be different from the others |
| 01:28 |
Peacock |
much in the same way after the two WW's new states were formed out of parts of old states, which lead to things like the Yugoslav wars in the 90s |
| 01:29 |
Inocudom |
But humans also have the tendency to be like everybody else. Why else would the terms sheep and herd be able to describe them. |
| 01:29 |
PilzAdam |
and the need for difference to other groups leads to conflicts |
| 01:29 |
PilzAdam |
you can see that between states and football clubs |
| 01:30 |
PilzAdam |
Inocudom, only lik everybody else in the same group |
| 01:30 |
Peacock |
well organized sports is another form of tribalism |
| 01:30 |
Inocudom |
These days, few people are true individuals. |
| 01:31 |
Inocudom |
The tribal instinct is a very strong aspect of human nature. Sports is effective because of it. |
| 01:32 |
PilzAdam |
of course these groups have leaders, and these leaders have a lot of influence on the members, which leads to the observation that they all are not individuals |
| 01:32 |
Peacock |
i prefer the expression "you're special, just like everybody else" :p |
| 01:33 |
Peacock |
though you look how parents behave these days you'd think only *their* kid was special |
| 01:33 |
Inocudom |
The old morales are being thrown out and new ones are appearing in their place. |
| 01:34 |
PilzAdam |
"old morales"? |
| 01:34 |
Peacock |
i think he meant morals :p |
| 01:34 |
Inocudom |
If you live in Europe or USA, see how life was back in the 1950's. Things were different. |
| 01:35 |
Peacock |
though im not sure thats ever been true, its just that technology today exposes so much of how people really are |
| 01:35 |
Inocudom |
Though, the Romans were a pretty corrupt group. |
| 01:35 |
PilzAdam |
Inocudom, what makes you think that morals have changed since the past? |
| 01:36 |
Inocudom |
One of the things I have heard about concerning these days is moral relativity. |
| 01:36 |
PilzAdam |
maybe "history" just tells us that in the past they had different morals, but in fact they acted exactly the same as we currently |
| 01:36 |
Peacock |
so many people have rose-tinted view of the 50s lol they forget korea, the civil rights movement, apartheid, etc. lol |
| 01:38 |
PilzAdam |
germany had an enormous economincal succes in the late 50s until the late 60s |
| 01:38 |
Inocudom |
The 20th century was one of the bloodiest centuries in mankind's history. Yes, that is true. |
| 01:39 |
Peacock |
hell they had race riots in the US, something Detroit never recovered from |
| 01:39 |
Inocudom |
But yes, mankind was never perfect. Mankind has always been corrupt. |
| 01:40 |
Peacock |
race relations are still very poor in the US, if the treyvon case is anything to go by |
| 01:40 |
PilzAdam |
Inocudom, the question is, though, if its caused by a change in humans minds or just by the better weapons we have |
| 01:40 |
PilzAdam |
if the romans had the weapons we have currently, would they kill more or less people than we do currently? |
| 01:40 |
Inocudom |
One could say both. |
| 01:41 |
Inocudom |
Life is cheap, that is the truth. |
| 01:41 |
PilzAdam |
I object |
| 01:42 |
PilzAdam |
ending a life is cheap |
| 01:42 |
Inocudom |
Yes, but lives are ended frequently. That is why I say life is cheap. |
| 01:43 |
PilzAdam |
you measure the value of an object not at the price to destroy it, but at the price to build it up |
| 01:43 |
Inocudom |
Old age or natural illness is one thing, but murder is quite another. |
| 01:44 |
PilzAdam |
for example its easy to destroy a car, does this make it cheap? |
| 01:44 |
Inocudom |
Then you can only hope that the more time it takes to build it, the more time it takes to destroy it. Take Minetest creations as an example. |
| 01:44 |
Peacock |
going purely by salaries and how long it takes to pay off a small home these days, life is cheap yeah lol |
| 01:45 |
Inocudom |
Cheap can also refer to cheap difficulty and being swindled and lied to. |
| 01:45 |
PilzAdam |
building up a life in current days is pretty "expensive", if you consider all the things we teach to childreen |
| 01:45 |
Inocudom |
Or being betrayed. |
| 01:46 |
PilzAdam |
but destroying a life gets cheaper and cheaper with each new weapong we invent |
| 01:46 |
PilzAdam |
<Inocudom> Then you can only hope that the more time it takes to build it, the more time it takes to destroy it. <- so this is exactly not true currently |
| 01:46 |
Peacock |
you're telling me, i dont even want 1 kid lol to my wife's everlasting disappointment |
| 01:46 |
Inocudom |
Thus, such weapons should have never been made. The universe is not a toy to be played with. There are real consequences. Real consequences. |
| 01:46 |
PilzAdam |
I dont understand people who dont want childreen |
| 01:47 |
Inocudom |
I would not want to have kids because I would not want them to face what the future has in store. By what I have seen, it is nothing good. |
| 01:48 |
Peacock |
simple, i turned 29 last week, still have no retirement savings, if i have a kid now, i wont even be able to save for retirement for another 20 years, which means i'll never retire and probably end up in some gov't "compassionate" euthanasia program |
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PilzAdam |
Peacock, so this is a pure economical decision? like buying a new tv? |
| 01:49 |
Peacock |
why not? childcare and education aren't free simply because they're kids, its economical to the institutions and businesses that cater to them |
| 01:50 |
Inocudom |
Economics... Mankind will have truly accomplished something when he no longer needs it to survive and help others. |
| 01:50 |
PilzAdam |
I have to go to sleep; was an interesting chat with you |
| 01:50 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
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| 01:51 |
Inocudom |
I wouldn't dare to discuss these things in the PureZC forums. Debates can get unpleasant there. |
| 01:52 |
Peacock |
hell so long as we steer clear of the controversial stuff like proprietary software we should be good here :p |
| 01:52 |
Peacock |
i wish economics wasn't a consideration in raising a family but it is and it wasn't my decision, but i do have to deal with it |
| 01:53 |
Inocudom |
Money is a very powerful tool of slavery. |
| 01:53 |
Inocudom |
Unless, of course, you are rich. |
| 01:54 |
Peacock |
it's a means of exchange, people enslave themselves by getting into agreements/contracts they don't fully understand |
| 01:54 |
Inocudom |
Or unless you are self sufficient. |
| 01:54 |
SirDigby |
Do Russians even get dui's? |
| 01:55 |
Peacock |
look at how bad people are with debt, did anyone force them to max out their credit cards or take a second mortgage on their home? |
| 01:55 |
Inocudom |
I would never trust a credit card, nor would I gamble. |
| 01:55 |
Inocudom |
I would avoid loaning from banks too. |
| 01:56 |
Peacock |
in the 90's reverse mortgage were a big thing, in the 2000's they called them home equity loans... basically convincing seniors to borrow against their house so that when they die the bank gets it instead of their kids |
| 01:56 |
Peacock |
but boomers are somewhat like that, they're the first Me generation and they have the gaul to say that their own kids are entitled lol |
| 01:57 |
Peacock |
(where do you think they learned it from?) |
| 01:58 |
Inocudom |
Narcissism is not the kind of thing you want to have as a common trait. |
| 01:59 |
Peacock |
what's more frustrating is we're going to be paying higher taxes on lower salaries than they enjoyed, everything costs more and we're getting fewer gov't services, but they don't want us to touch their govt pensions lol |
| 02:00 |
Peacock |
which we could barely afford before they voted themselves a bunch of tax cuts in the 80s and 90s |
| 02:00 |
Inocudom |
The economic bubble has popped. |
| 02:01 |
Peacock |
naw, our grandparents built the social welfare state, thats what gave the boomers their sense of entitlement, and as the economy got progressively worse they made sure to cover just their own asses :P |
| 02:02 |
MichaelRpdx |
um /giveme Wooden Planks - cannot give empty item :: What should I be saying? |
| 02:02 |
Inocudom |
Since you are interested in science fiction, you might find the shows Lost and Fringe to be interesting. They were made by Bad Robot. |
| 02:03 |
Peacock |
instead of modernizing our industry, we switched to services and financial trickery |
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| 02:03 |
Peacock |
not a fan of Lost |
| 02:03 |
Peacock |
Fringe was good but no X-Files |
| 02:04 |
Inocudom |
I don't know node names too well. Couldn't you just use the creative inventory? |
| 02:04 |
Peacock |
theres Defiance, Falling Skies and Resurrection due to start soon :-) |
| 02:04 |
Peacock |
michael use /giveme wood |
| 02:04 |
MichaelRpdx |
creative inventory? |
| 02:05 |
Inocudom |
It appears in creative mode. Of course, unified_inventory by RealBadAngel is useful too. |
| 02:05 |
Peacock |
useful but ever slower with large inventories :/ |
| 02:05 |
MichaelRpdx |
That works |
| 02:05 |
MichaelRpdx |
Thanks |
| 02:05 |
Peacock |
unless you have preload on, which my p4's newer gfx card still can't handle |
| 02:06 |
Inocudom |
I take it you have a very powerful graphics card? |
| 02:06 |
Inocudom |
If so, does Minetest's framerate drop even on that card? |
| 02:06 |
Peacock |
not on the p4, i bought it two years ago, before that it was an onboard radeon xpress 200 lol |
| 02:09 |
Peacock |
bought the card, not the p4 lol |
| 02:10 |
Inocudom |
But in terms of framerate, how well does Minetest do on it? |
| 02:11 |
Peacock |
average (30) |
| 02:11 |
Inocudom |
Even if there are tons of nodeboxes in the view? |
| 02:11 |
Peacock |
nodeboxes and texture alpha tend to kill fps further |
| 02:11 |
Peacock |
though we use less of them in large quantities (full node floors these days) |
| 02:12 |
Inocudom |
Yes, they do. Even if Freeminer's vbo feature is used, it does not solve the issues with those. |
| 02:13 |
Peacock |
i dont even use any of those fancy filters/shaders |
| 02:15 |
Inocudom |
Did you know that Minetest Classic found a way to have smooth lighting on nodeboxes? |
| 02:15 |
Peacock |
yeah ive been bugging this project on when they'd implement it lol |
| 02:15 |
Peacock |
i somewhat get the impression they resent having to port anything from any of it's forks lol |
| 02:16 |
Inocudom |
Freeminer might be more likely to import it. |
| 02:16 |
Peacock |
(because, after all, they were wrong to fork in the first place and they're bound to fail, as most people seem to think) |
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Peacock |
freeminer seems interesting in terms of features and speed but i also hear they wanna go full-blown GPL and i couldn't support such a thing |
| 02:29 |
Inocudom |
How would that be a problem? |
| 02:29 |
Peacock |
ideological differences over the definition of freedom :p |
| 02:30 |
Peacock |
if RMS were to pass away, i ... "wouldn't be glad he's dead, but i'd be glad he's gone" :P |
| 02:33 |
Inocudom |
https://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=1751 LandMine posted pictures of the destruction he caused. He claims it can't be rolled back either. |
| 02:34 |
Peacock |
that usually works by piling on multiple griefs with different names |
| 02:34 |
Inocudom |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=129576#p129576 His pictures are here. |
| 02:35 |
Inocudom |
Of course, for one reason or another, those buildings were not protected. |
| 02:36 |
Peacock |
ah well, ive stated the solution several times, user credentials with karma points |
| 02:36 |
Peacock |
if people would rather waste their time introducing several different protection schemes to turn their servers into the fourth reich, thats their business lol i've gone whitelist |
| 02:37 |
Inocudom |
The concern however is some hacker being able to find a way to destroy even the protected stuff. |
| 02:37 |
Peacock |
i doubt that would happen, someone with that much skill could get more attention actually coding shit for the engine |
| 02:38 |
Inocudom |
That is why it is very important to protect buildings. |
| 02:38 |
us|0gb |
That sounds like it would have the same issue as Apache Open Office and LibreOffice. LibreOffice can use Apache Open Office's code, but not vice versa, due to the licensing issues. |
| 02:38 |
Peacock |
well even protection cant prevent people from digging shit and passing through it quickly before it reappears, making any type of puzzle map totally useless |
| 02:39 |
Inocudom |
Though I fear that LandMine could be such a hacker. |
| 02:39 |
Peacock |
naw, he's just one of a great many pain-in-the-ass players lol |
| 02:40 |
Peacock |
i've even been disappointed with legitimate builders lately, they constantly ask you to install all the mods the other servers are running (making the experience just as bland) or they record your entire map without asking you if it's okay |
| 02:40 |
NakedFury |
cant there be a protection type that simply removes interact from players if they cross a zone? so you zone areas and not include players, when they enter the area they lose interact |
| 02:41 |
NakedFury |
easier that checking if the player could touch or not some block |
| 02:41 |
Peacock |
well you could grant and remove privileges based on location, but that would require globalstep to do it |
| 02:46 |
Peacock |
the smart move would probably be to change the engine to be able to define new interacts for specific areas |
| 02:46 |
Inocudom |
That would be an effective thing to do. |
| 02:47 |
Peacock |
yeah but i gave up trying to convince the devs of anything a long time ago, i just throw ideas out there on a take-it-or-leave-it basis lol |
| 02:47 |
Peacock |
let others politick for it |
| 02:52 |
Inocudom |
Do you watch oOChainLynxOo's videos, Peacock? |
| 02:53 |
Peacock |
ive seen a few |
| 02:54 |
Inocudom |
He still does videos for Minetest. He even recorded a few of my creations. |
| 02:56 |
Peacock |
it wouldn't hurt to have more ppl like him lol |
| 02:57 |
Peacock |
i sometimes get the impression minetest (the community) is stagnating, we have more devs/moderators, but the forums and the chat seem less lively than years past |
| 02:59 |
Inocudom |
They are stagnating. That is a fact. |
| 03:00 |
Peacock |
for a while people said "there'll be more mods when 048 comes out" then it was "corernote's back, he'll write plenty of mods" but the only modder i follow with much interest is paramat cuz i can't think of anyone else writing anything |
| 03:01 |
Peacock |
the forums themselves, well I used to check in when i woke, there'd be 2-3 pages of updated topics... now it's half a page lol |
| 03:01 |
Peacock |
*woke up |
| 03:01 |
Peacock |
the API could use a feature or two that enables the creation of dozens of new mods |
| 03:04 |
RealBadAngel |
why do you think that folks are not writing anything? |
| 03:05 |
RealBadAngel |
you shall notice that we do already have mods that were easy to write |
| 03:05 |
Peacock |
some people say everything worth inventing has been done, i don't personally believe that |
| 03:05 |
RealBadAngel |
now to make something interesting and worth releasing just takes lotsa time |
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| 03:05 |
Peacock |
lots of time implies it's a more complicated version of some pre-existing concept |
| 03:06 |
RealBadAngel |
not really |
| 03:06 |
RealBadAngel |
check out for example new UI feature |
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| 03:06 |
RealBadAngel |
https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/tree/waypoints |
| 03:07 |
Peacock |
well for starters the reason people dont create anything truly new is because with our archaic licensing rules those features can be quickly absorbed by the old mods |
| 03:07 |
Peacock |
secondly, we need something new in the API as epic as nodeboxes were when they were introduced |
| 03:07 |
RealBadAngel |
you do have skyboxes for example |
| 03:07 |
RealBadAngel |
dont you think its worth a mod? |
| 03:08 |
Peacock |
yeah and im already thinking of ways of incorporating that into a earth/moon type map |
| 03:08 |
RealBadAngel |
its quite easy to code, takes 10 lines or something like that |
| 03:08 |
Peacock |
but when you look at nodeboxes... how many different furniture and door and stair type mods did that spawn? a lot :-) |
| 03:08 |
Inocudom |
Yes, like mob support. I would love to see this cute little creature in Minetest: http://youtu.be/Zcrbu8uZXuw |
| 03:09 |
Peacock |
well mob support might as well involve an overhaul of entities |
| 03:10 |
Peacock |
or some feature specifically targeted at creating mobs |
| 03:10 |
RealBadAngel |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UO_8U39qIM |
| 03:11 |
RealBadAngel |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD3O6FFKowI |
| 03:11 |
Peacock |
since when do skyboxes move? |
| 03:11 |
RealBadAngel |
hehe |
| 03:11 |
Peacock |
in any case, it only takes one person to come up with a unifiedskies mod with all the options and thats about the only mod that will be maintained |
| 03:11 |
RealBadAngel |
since i added ONE line to core ;) |
| 03:12 |
RealBadAngel |
i have to push that with lua interface to it |
| 03:13 |
Inocudom |
I approve of the addition of skyboxes. |
| 03:13 |
Peacock |
something else i think would be cool is dynamic node properties, where the nodedef of a specific node can be changed |
| 03:13 |
RealBadAngel |
you can define a speed vector for rotation of a skybox, and the core will just keep it rotating |
| 03:13 |
Inocudom |
Yes, I can see that as being a very useful feature. |
| 03:14 |
RealBadAngel |
this is started by c55 and now developed by nore |
| 03:14 |
Peacock |
i remember :P |
| 03:15 |
Peacock |
i first complained about the static sky when c55 talked about using the engine to create space games, and i pointed out you can't do that with a standard sky, sun and moon :P |
| 03:15 |
RealBadAngel |
also there are a few quite interesting thing happening in the core |
| 03:15 |
RealBadAngel |
built in circuits simulator |
| 03:15 |
Inocudom |
http://youtu.be/fjH54TvFtek You forgot this video. |
| 03:15 |
RealBadAngel |
built in minimap |
| 03:15 |
Inocudom |
Circuits I did see in Freeminer. |
| 03:15 |
Peacock |
well, circuity is nothing new, they're simply shifting the heavy lifting of mesecons from lua to core |
| 03:16 |
RealBadAngel |
no, its tottally different |
| 03:16 |
Inocudom |
I also saw the minimap feature (could use colors.txt to show nodes.) |
| 03:16 |
Peacock |
hows it different from mesecons? and what else can it be used for? (apart from pipes and tubes) |
| 03:17 |
RealBadAngel |
technic wireing for example |
| 03:17 |
RealBadAngel |
all the mods that uses wires and any kind of circuit |
| 03:17 |
Inocudom |
So, there will be an api of sorts specifically for things like mesecons and technic? That is very significant news. |
| 03:18 |
RealBadAngel |
ah, and shaders will have also the new features |
| 03:19 |
RealBadAngel |
as in the last video ;) |
| 03:21 |
Peacock |
this circuity stuff is still a continuation of an existing idea/feature |
| 03:22 |
Peacock |
its going to help established mods, but i dont see how it will lead to many new ones |
| 03:23 |
RealBadAngel |
im still waiting for a mod like thaumcraft |
| 03:24 |
RealBadAngel |
but not as previous attempt |
| 03:25 |
Peacock |
well, that's still reproducing existing ideas :P except its an idea from MC instead :P |
| 03:26 |
RealBadAngel |
its really hard to invent something nowadays |
| 03:26 |
RealBadAngel |
most of the time we are redoing things |
| 03:27 |
RealBadAngel |
but still, in our sandbox |
| 03:28 |
Peacock |
well people like me have plenty of ideas :P but there's no point in sharing them if legacy mods can copy all of it and never be supplanted |
| 03:29 |
Peacock |
except when people like me stop sharing things, then the legacy mods stagnate too |
| 03:29 |
Peacock |
so you're best bet at this point is some revolutionary new API feature |
| 03:30 |
Peacock |
looking at the thaumcraft youtube vid, i like the fullscreen inventory/menu, but we're still stuck with the chat on top :/ |
| 03:32 |
Peacock |
hm, i can't begin to guess how you could implement the thaumometer in MT |
| 03:33 |
us|0gb |
That chat is a pain when .... Actually, I forget when. But the chat covers something making it unclicable even when you can still see it. The inventory, maybe? |
| 03:33 |
Peacock |
any formspec big enough |
| 03:33 |
* us|0gb |
hasn't played for a while |
| 03:34 |
Peacock |
though ive said this in the past, chat should be part of HUD, so we can create custom chat terminals |
| 03:35 |
Peacock |
i'd put mine at the bottom center, and move the hotbar on the left side, aligned vertically |
| 03:44 |
Peacock |
this guy could use some mod installation help (im not used to the configure/enable thing): https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8558 |
| 03:55 |
Inocudom |
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cslingerlanddrummer93/3667212048/ No one has ever done such with Techic yet. |
| 03:56 |
Inocudom |
There is probably enough electricity in those wires to kill a dinosaur. |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
problem is, you can't run technic power very far |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
you run into map load limits |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
(e.g. active block range) |
| 03:57 |
Inocudom |
That is a problem. |
| 03:57 |
Peacock |
hmmm would probably be horrified, but you could use vmanip if your circuits use on/off nodes :P |
| 04:00 |
RealBadAngel |
Peacock, thats actually good idea, i will code that |
| 04:01 |
RealBadAngel |
i mean chat element for hud |
| 04:01 |
Peacock |
though so, even i wouldn't use vmanip for circuits :p |
| 04:03 |
Peacock |
make sure though that you can define the font size and # of lines :P :-) |
| 04:07 |
Inocudom |
That is a good thing to work on, RealBadAngel. There is a mod that does something like that: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8509 |
| 04:09 |
Inocudom |
Having it as part of the base game is a good idea. |
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| 04:11 |
Inocudom |
Welcome cisoun. Minimaps, new shader features, and skyboxes are in the future of Minetest. |
| 04:11 |
RealBadAngel |
thats slightly different |
| 04:12 |
RealBadAngel |
i would rather see that as detacheable terminal window |
| 04:12 |
RealBadAngel |
so it could be used for computer terminals or whatever |
| 04:17 |
Peacock |
for computer terminals/signs, id suggest some facility to impose text on textures, much like how ^ combination works |
| 04:17 |
Peacock |
except the text part would be dynamic, but ultimately superimposed on the texture |
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| 04:20 |
MinerOfLands_ |
Good night peeps |
| 04:20 |
Peacock |
night |
| 04:20 |
MinerOfLands_ |
how are you sexy people doing |
| 04:20 |
Peacock |
im too sexy for my shirt, obviously |
| 04:20 |
MinerOfLands_ |
seems legit hehe |
| 04:21 |
ShadowNinja |
Hello. |
| 04:21 |
MinerOfLands_ |
i wish i could say the same |
| 04:21 |
MinerOfLands_ |
hey shadow |
| 04:21 |
Peacock |
http://youtu.be/39YUXIKrOFk |
| 04:21 |
MinerOfLands_ |
well i should have seen that comming hehe |
| 04:21 |
MinerOfLands_ |
:3 |
| 04:22 |
MinerOfLands_ |
So whats the discussion for today? |
| 04:22 |
Peacock |
ugh, i keep coughing up hairballs :/ doesn't help that when i snore, the cat sticks her paw down my throat to silence me |
| 04:22 |
MinerOfLands_ |
lol what? |
| 04:23 |
Peacock |
strange kitty :p |
| 04:23 |
MinerOfLands_ |
hahah your a cat person? i have 2 dogs hehe |
| 04:23 |
Peacock |
we gave her a catnip ball, she keeps trying to bury it in the hardwood floor for later use :/ |
| 04:23 |
Peacock |
she also thinks my wife is a cat, she keeps cleaning her hair while she sleeps :/ |
| 04:24 |
Inocudom |
Would you keep this as a pet? http://youtu.be/Zcrbu8uZXuw |
| 04:24 |
Peacock |
ugh, irritating music in video lol |
| 04:25 |
MinerOfLands_ |
where is all the rest of the peeps?! |
| 04:25 |
Inocudom |
The song does not last long. |
| 04:25 |
MinerOfLands_ |
no one is ever here to annouce my future return gosh! |
| 04:25 |
VanessaE |
they're hiding. |
| 04:26 |
* Peacock |
sets ban on #@$.%@@$.*%&.@$ |
| 04:26 |
Peacock |
top that :p |
| 04:27 |
ShadowNinja |
I think Charydbis would reject that. |
| 04:27 |
ShadowNinja |
Not sure about if it was sent over a s2s link though. |
| 04:28 |
Inocudom |
http://youtu.be/yOtxaicqK0w |
| 04:30 |
Peacock |
who you tryin' to ban? |
| 04:30 |
Peacock |
cuz i dont see anyone leaving lol |
| 04:30 |
Inocudom |
ShadowNinja, were you able to fix the griefs on your server? |
| 04:31 |
ShadowNinja |
Inocudom: Yep, rollback got most of it, and I conveniently had WEs for the rest. |
| 04:31 |
Peacock |
wait are you banning that landmine fellow? |
| 04:32 |
Inocudom |
Good. Those buildings at spawn need to be protected, but how to tell who built them? |
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LandMine_mt |
man |
| 04:32 |
Peacock |
woman |
| 04:32 |
LandMine_mt |
whats wrong with you |
| 04:32 |
LandMine_mt |
? heheh |
| 04:34 |
Peacock |
when do i get to ban people who grief on my servers? :P |
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| 04:35 |
ShadowNinja |
Peacock: Is anyone here who has? |
| 04:35 |
Inocudom |
Good, he's gone. |
| 04:35 |
Peacock |
well i have my suspicions, but suspicions aren't enough for a conviction |
| 04:35 |
ShadowNinja |
Peacock: And he's known for flooding, not just greifing. |
| 04:36 |
Peacock |
though i know for a fact through my logs, that some *respected* community members signed onto my server with different names lol |
| 04:36 |
Inocudom |
That is one member we are better off without. |
| 04:36 |
Peacock |
ah well, what can you do? the freenode webchat can be accessed through any proxy |
| 04:37 |
Inocudom |
That LandMine. |
| 04:38 |
Peacock |
make people sign on to servers with their forum credentials :P |
| 04:38 |
Peacock |
and give em karma points the same way github and ohloh measure contribs |
| 04:40 |
Peacock |
i think its funny how the cat hides her face in my arm as if i can't see her lol then i say "where's <catname>" and she pops her head out and purrs louder lol |
| 04:44 |
Inocudom |
Bye. |
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LarryCable |
just stop it your embarrasing your self shadow you know banning me wont stop me heheh i have a good vpn which just allows me to come back on....i know you are mad but just grow up its just a game |
| 04:47 |
ShadowNinja |
Mad? :-) |
| 04:47 |
LandMine_Owns |
yeah |
| 04:47 |
LandMine_Owns |
you are acting like a child |
| 04:47 |
LandMine_Owns |
put on your big boy pants and let me hang with the crew |
| 04:48 |
Peacock |
it does kinda seem like butthurt when someone gets banned from the chat for griefing a private server :p |
| 04:48 |
ShadowNinja |
Greifing and flooding isn't exactly thought of as adult. ;-) |
| 04:50 |
Peacock |
well thank god for geoip, because i managed to match a few respected members to random troublemakers on my server :p |
| 04:50 |
ShadowNinja |
Peacock: Well, that may have influenced my decision, but as I already said, he's been banned before for other reasons and is ban evading, which is itself grounds for a ban. |
| 04:51 |
ShadowNinja |
Eg, he found that he could get around some bans by using kiwiirc, which dpesn't have CGI:IRC, yet... |
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Peacock |
hell even xchat has proxy support |
| 04:52 |
ShadowNinja |
Peacock: Those proxies are detected by BOPM I guess, and that means a global K:Line. |
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Peacock |
didn't take long to find this on google: http://irc-proxies.blogspot.ca/ |
| 04:55 |
ShadowNinja |
He's harassing me in PM now. |
| 04:55 |
ShadowNinja |
(UMode +R for the first time in about a year) |
| 04:56 |
Peacock |
ah well ignore comes in handy for that :P |
| 04:57 |
Peacock |
though you probably know this already, the average troll's goal is for you to spend time/energy on them, so they'll keep doing whatever gets a rise out of you to those ends |
| 04:57 |
ShadowNinja |
Peacock: Setting +R is pretty effortless, and although he has an account, there's +g for that. |
| 04:58 |
ShadowNinja |
Physical ignore works too. ;-P |
| 04:59 |
Peacock |
im not terribly familiar with IRC kung-fu, the last time IRC was popular in my country, Clinton was getting "not sexual relations" in the white house :P |
| 04:59 |
ShadowNinja |
g=callerid, you need to be /accept'ed. |
| 04:59 |
ShadowNinja |
R=registered only. |
| 04:59 |
Peacock |
ah, makes sense :-) |
| 05:00 |
Peacock |
you know back then, IRC script kiddies was a "thing" lol |
| 05:00 |
ShadowNinja |
o = oper, person that /kills and/or /klines him. ;-) |
| 05:01 |
Peacock |
kline? isn't that german for small? |
| 05:01 |
VanessaE |
well one DOES want to make him feel exceedingly small :P |
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| 05:01 |
Peacock |
lol true |
| 05:02 |
Peacock |
but somehow i doubt he'll give up, trolls are as old as the internet itself lol |
| 05:02 |
ShadowNinja |
K: line, as in a server or network ban. Named after the single-character line name that it used in the conf file of the original IRCd. |
| 05:03 |
ShadowNinja |
You'd have "K:*@123.45.67.89:Because reason" in the conf file. |
| 05:03 |
ShadowNinja |
And a o: (or O:) line would be a local/global network operator. |
| 05:03 |
Peacock |
dunno, IP bans seem so inefficient, its not the hardest thing to change |
| 05:04 |
ShadowNinja |
CIDR bans. :-) |
| 05:04 |
Peacock |
hell even MAC adresses can be changed easily in linux |
| 05:04 |
ShadowNinja |
(123.456.0.0/16, etc) |
| 05:05 |
Peacock |
well that's IP-range banning :P |
| 05:05 |
ShadowNinja |
There are also Z/D lines, which are evrn faster, so fast that the Z stands for 'zap'. :-) |
| 05:05 |
Peacock |
when i proposed that for MT, i was shot down because it seemed unethical :P |
| 05:06 |
Peacock |
though with bots and proxies in MT these days, theres not much you can do to keep anyone off |
| 05:07 |
ShadowNinja |
IRC networks use BOPM, or similar proxy detectors. |
| 05:08 |
ShadowNinja |
Seems they missed a few or ignore WEBIRC though. |
| 05:08 |
Peacock |
IRC yeah, server admins have nothing though to deal with people who seem to live in twelve different countries :P |
| 05:09 |
us|0gb |
Oh wow. That is easy to change your MAC address. Maybe I should do it, just to choose an address I like better. |
| 05:09 |
ShadowNinja |
You could write a mod with luasocket and the async API, or external calls. |
| 05:10 |
Peacock |
well i simply use geoip to ban people who seem to come from a whole bunch of different places, nonetheless, people are connecting to servers via proxies... so this griefing thing is not about to go away |
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hoodedice |
Sup peeps |
| 05:50 |
hmmmm |
http://adage.com/article/special-report-iab-annual-meeting/mozilla-sell-ads-firefox/291641/ |
| 05:50 |
hmmmm |
nice, another browser bites the dust |
| 05:51 |
hmmmm |
somebody should just fork firefox 26.0 and do nothing but performance optimizations and bugfixes. |
| 05:51 |
Peacock |
http://youtu.be/rY0WxgSXdEE |
| 05:52 |
Peacock |
who still uses firefox? it used to be light and nimble, then it got fat, and chrome was the new champion in that category |
| 05:53 |
hoodedice |
...I do |
| 05:53 |
Peacock |
back then, when a single tab crashed in FF, the whole browser crashed, not so in chrome |
| 05:53 |
hoodedice |
Instead of IE. IE is better on Windows 8.1 |
| 05:54 |
hoodedice |
But I use Aurora for supporting FOSS |
| 05:54 |
Peacock |
it must be FOSS, because i have no clue what Aurora is XD |
| 05:54 |
us|0gb |
That's sad about Firefox. It's what my mother switched to after Internet Explorer gave out on her. I'll probably have to find her a new browser soon then. |
| 05:55 |
hoodedice |
"There's no nuclear winter coming" |
| 05:55 |
hoodedice |
*In the middle of a polar vortex* Ah the irony |
| 05:55 |
hoodedice |
Aurora is Firefox nightly |
| 05:55 |
Peacock |
dont forget under certain distros it's called icebeaver or some other shit lol |
| 05:56 |
hoodedice |
Has a windows 8 mode, where the browser runs in full screen with gesture suppost and stuff |
| 05:56 |
Peacock |
did F11 stop working? :P |
| 05:56 |
Peacock |
compiz has gestures, now its dead lol |
| 05:56 |
Peacock |
*had |
| 05:57 |
hoodedice |
*gesture support* |
| 05:57 |
hoodedice |
That version is optimized for touch |
| 05:57 |
hoodedice |
Seriously speaking, though, IE 11 is best for windows 8.1 No kidding |
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Peacock |
well i dont give a shit about touch, its good for tablets/phones, but i fucking hate finger smudged on PC screens lol |
| 05:58 |
hoodedice |
I hate it too, cleaned it today =/ |
| 05:58 |
hoodedice |
Have t get some sort of cover for this, and it WILL be expensive |
| 05:58 |
hoodedice |
Anyway, how is this game engine? http://www.gritengine.com/ |
| 05:58 |
Peacock |
simpler solution would be to get a non-touch screen lol |
| 05:58 |
hoodedice |
I think it's in dev limbo |
| 05:59 |
hoodedice |
Peacock: -.- |
| 05:59 |
hoodedice |
Once I got used to it, I was like, WHAT WAS I DOING WITH A MOUSE? |
| 05:59 |
hoodedice |
jk, I still use the mouse |
| 06:00 |
Peacock |
wait till you try to do precision stuff in GIMP/blender lol |
| 06:00 |
hoodedice |
I use a mouse for that |
| 06:00 |
Peacock |
besides, with a touch screen you have to make sure all your guests wash their hands after going to the W/C, otherwise you're constantly cleaning your screen |
| 06:00 |
hoodedice |
*touchpad. Haven't bought a mouse yet |
| 06:01 |
hoodedice |
No one uses my laptop lol. And we don't have guests around here |
| 06:01 |
Peacock |
well i do, and even without touch screens dumb people stick their fingers on my screen |
| 06:01 |
hoodedice |
And if they're family, they are required by religion to wash their hands after the loo XD |
| 06:02 |
Peacock |
"that!" ... "ok but do you need to smudge my mother**cking screen?" lol |
| 06:02 |
Peacock |
well it seems religion comes in handy for some things |
| 06:02 |
Peacock |
now if only there was a religion that forces men with bad aim to sit on the damn toilet lol |
| 06:03 |
hoodedice |
Well... |
| 06:03 |
hoodedice |
...religion in question has that rule too... |
| 06:03 |
Peacock |
lol nice |
| 06:03 |
Peacock |
ever seen a bar bathroom? more piss on the floor than in the bowl lol |
| 06:04 |
hoodedice |
Never been to a bar - I've heard enough |
| 06:04 |
hoodedice |
Well, what can you say after Juicetin Beaver pissed in a mopping bucket? |
| 06:04 |
Peacock |
well he's a douche |
| 06:04 |
hoodedice |
You must be pretty ashamed he's Canadian |
| 06:05 |
Peacock |
though, looking at a pic of him and his father, it's easy to see where he gets it from |
| 06:05 |
hoodedice |
lol |
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* ShadowNinja |
thinks this conversation is straying a bit far... |
| 06:05 |
Peacock |
oh please, are americans ashamed of lindsey lohan, britney spears or woody allen being americans? :P |
| 06:06 |
hoodedice |
ShadowNinja: http://www.gritengine.com/ |
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Peacock |
the only difference is they can deport bieber, and i wouldn't blame them if they did lol |
| 06:06 |
hoodedice |
Peacock: http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/05/showbiz/justin-bieber-marijuana-flight/ |
| 06:06 |
ShadowNinja |
hoodedice: Saw. |
| 06:06 |
hoodedice |
Didn't hear that lol |
| 06:07 |
hoodedice |
What do you think Shadow? Is it a good engine? |
| 06:07 |
Peacock |
so long as they keep celine dion, we can't stand her in Quebec lol |
| 06:08 |
Peacock |
mmm, bansalad |
| 06:08 |
ShadowNinja |
hoodedice: Well, seems dead... |
| 06:09 |
hoodedice |
Sup with the bans? |
| 06:09 |
Peacock |
bansalad: that's walnuts, apples, celery and grapes, in a mayonnaise sauce |
| 06:09 |
hoodedice |
Also, thought so =/ |
| 06:09 |
Peacock |
all washed down with the hot lashings of screwdriver </fawlty towers> |
| 06:10 |
ShadowNinja |
hoodedice: Removing old ineffective bans against LM. |
| 06:11 |
hoodedice |
LM? |
| 06:11 |
Peacock |
LoungeMaster |
| 06:11 |
Peacock |
like a dungeonmaster but more laid-back |
| 06:11 |
ShadowNinja |
hoodedice: LandMine. Seems he's back, and he's rather unsavory. |
| 06:12 |
hoodedice |
I thought he turned a leaf? |
| 06:12 |
Peacock |
well he does come in chicken and tuna flavours now |
| 06:12 |
ShadowNinja |
Actually EVERY ban on this channel is against him. |
| 06:12 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 06:12 |
hoodedice |
Wow. |
| 06:12 |
Peacock |
why not ban all of mexico? |
| 06:12 |
ShadowNinja |
hoodedice: Apparently not, greifed my server today. |
| 06:13 |
hoodedice |
He had his own server a while back, and then he was also into modding or something...? |
| 06:13 |
hoodedice |
Don't believe this lol |
| 06:13 |
Peacock |
last time i ran a server MXs were almost as bad as BRs lol |
| 06:14 |
Peacock |
which somewhat explains the state of the countries in which they live lol |
| 06:14 |
ShadowNinja |
Yep, he made a creative server, which OldCoder now hosts. Also became famous for greifing, kiling players, trolling, and flooding. |
| 06:15 |
ShadowNinja |
Anyway, G'night. |
| 06:15 |
Peacock |
night |
| 06:16 |
hoodedice |
night |
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reactor |
...why did someone say that using Buildcraft to connect to Minetest servers is illegal? |
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ruskie |
because they don't understand what they are saying? |
| 07:00 |
reactor |
Aha. |
| 07:03 |
reactor |
...people are so lame they don't bother changing the default nick. |
| 07:04 |
reactor |
I think a better practice would be not giving the player a default name, but refusing to connect to anywhere, before they set it. |
| 07:04 |
reactor |
s/before/until/ |
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reactor |
...I hope, no_guest is case-insensitive? |
| 07:18 |
reactor |
I've for a proposal. |
| 07:18 |
reactor |
"co-owner", "owner" etc. |
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reactor |
Because those are misleading, too. |
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reactor |
Hello everyfurry. |
| 07:53 |
reactor |
How's the science? |
| 07:53 |
reactor |
*slow clap* |
| 07:53 |
reactor |
You're not alive, however. |
| 08:04 |
reactor |
So you say. |
| 08:04 |
reactor |
Watching pony stuff all day is not being alive. |
| 08:09 |
reactor |
...hmm. Is there a way to auto-add ores and such at random? |
| 08:10 |
reactor |
As in, randomly replace dirt/stone? |
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reactor |
Being alive involves doing something. |
| 08:24 |
reactor |
Meaningful. |
| 08:25 |
reactor |
Meaningful doesn't include _claiming_ to be alive while actually not. |
| 08:56 |
RealBadAngel |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueQg18t1qyE&feature=youtu.be |
| 08:56 |
RealBadAngel |
^^ improved parallax mapping |
| 09:06 |
reactor |
...still looks out of place, RealBadAngel |
| 09:06 |
reactor |
Or may it be cause those rocks are too shiny. |
| 09:06 |
RealBadAngel |
thats a sample texture |
| 09:07 |
reactor |
john_minetest: experiment with it eh. |
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RealBadAngel |
i dont have at the time anything better |
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reactor |
I don't know. |
| 09:10 |
reactor |
Well, amoeba doesn't sit there arguing with people over meaningless matters. |
| 09:10 |
reactor |
Amoeba has other things to do. |
| 09:10 |
reactor |
So it's pretty meaningful. |
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Megaf |
Hi |
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reactor |
Elo. |
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reactor |
I'm not hating against anything. |
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reactor |
That's merely how I'm messing with you. |
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reactor |
Being defensive about ponies does tell something, though. |
| 09:47 |
reactor |
You hurt eveyone's rights by calling them ponies. |
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reactor |
Oh. That might be the reason no one else greets you. Because you greet only me separately. |
| 09:56 |
reactor |
...does that really express any hate towards furries? |
| 09:56 |
paramat |
the floatin' dev mod https://github.com/paramat/floatindev |
| 09:57 |
reactor |
I didn't call "everyone" a "furry". |
| 09:57 |
reactor |
I called you a furry. |
| 09:58 |
reactor |
Yes. Implying you're the only one into ponies/furries/etc here. |
| 09:59 |
reactor |
paramat: that's a map generator? |
| 10:05 |
reactor |
...I understand. Please go on. |
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Megaf |
Shout arrow support be implemented? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8552 |
| 10:05 |
paramat |
yeah, its the voxelmanip mod copy of indev floatlands |
| 10:06 |
reactor |
shouting arrows? |
| 10:06 |
paramat |
LOL |
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reactor |
Megaf: that would be cool, actually. |
| 10:06 |
reactor |
Because mouse sucks. |
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reactor |
For games not so much, but still. |
| 10:09 |
reactor |
...if not for Xombrero's lame way of numbering links, I would be using no mouse for browsing. Oh, and GTK is outright shit for not pasting primary selection on shift-insert or control-v. |
| 10:10 |
reactor |
They will do any sort of useless improvements like new controls or themes, but not address the fucking annoying issue! |
| 10:12 |
paramat |
yes i like the arrow key support, excellent idea! mouse is damaging to the body for many people, terrible design, i use a trackball |
| 10:13 |
reactor |
paramat++ |
| 10:13 |
reactor |
Mouse is causing asymmetrical posture. |
| 10:14 |
paramat |
but i want shout arrows too |
| 10:17 |
reactor |
одиннадцать |
| 10:17 |
reactor |
!Ñто одиннадцать миллионов Ñто одиннадцать Ñ‚Ñ‹ÑÑч Ñто одиннадцать, beat that |
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paramat |
lol thanks i am now satisfied |
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reactor |
I meant to say "11111". |
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reactor |
Not a random long word. |
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reactor |
Bloody pwned, you. |
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reactor |
Рьью |
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reactor |
Hmm. |
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reactor |
PostgreSQL backend, anyone? |
| 10:30 |
reactor |
It's still not a solid number. |
| 10:32 |
reactor |
Wait. |
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reactor |
Don't they use spaces? |
| 10:34 |
reactor |
And put it backwards like 945 is "funf und vierzig und neun Hundert" |
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reactor |
So, everything in left to right order beside tens? |
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tomreyn |
hi |
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tomreyn |
i'm just running minetest for the first time (built it locally) |
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tomreyn |
therE's no music on the main menu, is this correct? |
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tomreyn |
(nor any sounds at all) |
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tomreyn |
linux, ubuntu 13.10 x86_64 |
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tomreyn |
does that make a difference on whether or not there should be sounds and music? |
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tomreyn |
i mean whether it's linux or windows |
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tomreyn |
i have openal headers installed |
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tomreyn |
-- Found OpenAL: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libopenal.so |
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tomreyn |
^ cmake |
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tomreyn |
-- Sound enabled |
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tomreyn |
so normally there would eb sounds? or music? |
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tomreyn |
i assume you do not plan to answer my question. :) |
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tomreyn |
on the main menu? |
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tomreyn |
like when you click on something? |
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tomreyn |
i can walk around on the main menu? |
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tomreyn |
you're probably referring to in-game sounds |
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paramat |
screenshots of floatindev mod http://i.imgur.com/nD9XzMl.png http://i.imgur.com/XayEEih.png |
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tomreyn |
<tomreyn> therE's no music on the main menu, is this correct? |
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tomreyn |
i mean the main menu |
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tomreyn |
thanks. |
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tomreyn |
and yes i just started a game, and there are several sound in-game |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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Leoneof |
why i'm here |
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Leoneof |
i will run minetest, are you there? :) |
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Leoneof |
which server |
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paramat |
floatindev mod released https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8560 |
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Leoneof |
paramat: nice, but the sky is not good :\ |
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Hirato |
terraria has p. cool floating islands |
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* sfan5 |
puts a kitten on Hirato's head |
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sfan5 |
hi everyone |
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Hirato |
but WHO in the channel is the kitten! :o |
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Hirato |
that's p. fatist and ableist of you john_minetest ;) |
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reactor |
Eh? |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all |
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Megaf |
Hi rubenwardy |
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reactor |
Hi rubber ward. |
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rubenwardy |
:P |
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rubenwardy |
Properties side bar finished: https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor |
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rubenwardy |
Now fixing FPS before releasing 0.6.2 |
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* rubenwardy |
just ran his first successful git command! |
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rubenwardy |
Yay! I did something in git without breaking my remote repo! |
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whiskers75 |
rubenwardy: Learning git ftw |
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reactor |
...is there a manual for it? |
| 16:47 |
reactor |
I mean, a properly written manual, like The NetBSD Guide. |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/w9c7A6x.jpg |
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VanessaE |
sfan5: did you see the rest of my comments last evening on -dev ? |
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sfan5 |
yes |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/rBJgj7d.jpg |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/0T8kmMz.jpg |
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VanessaE |
aww |
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Leoneof |
anyone playing minetest now? which server? |
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whiskers75 |
sfan5: aww |
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sfan5 |
Leoneof: there are 87 people playing MT right now: http://servers.minetest.net/ |
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Leoneof |
sfan5: wow, it's growing :p |
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reactor |
Leoneof: ? |
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Leoneof |
reactor: ? |
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VanessaE |
yeah and only 7 of them are on my server right now :( |
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VanessaE |
(my main one anyway) |
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Megaf |
VanessaE: What mod do you use to get skins? |
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VanessaE |
Megaf: I use PilzAdam's player_textures mod on some of my servers |
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Leoneof |
VanessaE: i cannot build in your world |
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Megaf |
hm, Thanks |
| 17:29 |
VanessaE |
(for a couple of them, no skins mod is used at all, and on one, a custom mod that only has generic male and female skins is used) |
| 17:29 |
VanessaE |
Leoneof: which one? I have 6. |
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Leoneof |
VanessaE: mostly-vanilla |
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VanessaE |
Leoneof: you've read the rules ? |
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Leoneof |
VanessaE: oh no, i just open and play :\ |
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whiskers75 |
VanessaE: is your server patched against fastbreak? |
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ShadowNinja |
whiskers75: Minetest doesn't allow that with disable_anticheat = false |
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whiskers75 |
ShadowNinja: you sure? ;) |
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OldCoder |
anunakki, Hello |
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anunakki |
hi OldCoder |
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ShadowNinja |
whiskers75: Yep. |
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anunakki |
how have you been? |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all |
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anunakki |
I have lots to tell you whenever you have some time |
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reactor |
fastbreak? |
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reactor |
VanessaE: I have defaults suggestion for no_guest |
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reactor |
["[0o]wn[e3][r27]"] |
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VanessaE |
haha |
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VanessaE |
oops |
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VanessaE |
ignore that |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
I was scrolled back and responding to something else :P |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
that's a good suggestion in fact |
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sfan5 |
VanessaE: how about you just input 'owner' and it automatically adds common mutations like e -> [3e] or o -> [0o] ? |
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MichaelRpdx |
whiskers75 - take your pick from Amazon |
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whiskers75 |
MichaelRpdx: ? |
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rubenwardy |
Node Box Editor 0.6.2 released! properties and FPS limitation. Changelog: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=129660#p129660 |
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whiskers75 |
rubenwardy: wow, that's a cool tool |
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rubenwardy |
xDF |
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rubenwardy |
* xD |
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whiskers75 |
:) |
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rubenwardy |
It is currently my most successful project in c++ |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: waaah... scary! |
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VanessaE |
sfan5: that's a good idea, actually. lib_l33t.lua :) |
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sfan5 |
:D |
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MichaelRpdx |
whiskers75 - you want a git manual |
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whiskers75 |
MichaelRpdx: I'm a git expert, thank you |
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rubenwardy |
Stronghold 2 time! |
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whiskers75 |
:P |
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stormchaser3000 |
hi |
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Megaf |
lol, I just realized I wrote my servers name wrong |
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MichaelRpdx |
VanessaE which one do you consider your main server? |
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VanessaE |
Michael: the "Vanilla" one |
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VanessaE |
(30005) |
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VanessaE |
which, of late, has not been very active :( |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix possible missing unlock of env_lock ded5f8b1a6 2014-02-12T10:47:27-08:00 http://git.io/KSKlsQ |
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NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rEknnfrvTw |
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arb |
Um, what language does minetest use for scripting (mods and stuff), lua? |
| 21:09 |
ShadowNinja |
arb: Yep. |
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arb |
ShadowNinja: How easy is it to create a mod if you learn lua? Like how much time does it take on average? I know it varies with the purpose of the mod but still |
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Miner_48er |
arb what would you like your mod to do? |
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arb |
Hmm simple stuff, like maybe a new kind of tree or something, maybe even a new species (mob) |
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ShadowNinja |
arb: Lua is very easy to learn, and the API is pretty simple. You can make a basic mod in a few days from no Lua knowledge. |
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arb |
lol I have this vision of dwarves in minetest (dwarf fortress type) |
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arb |
alright |
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ShadowNinja |
(As long as you know basic programing concepts) |
| 21:13 |
arb |
by the way, is the water still too viscous |
| 21:13 |
arb |
i know C++ |
| 21:14 |
ShadowNinja |
You should be fine then. |
| 21:14 |
arb |
like it takes forever to sink down to the bottom but in the real world, it happens pretty quickly (or so I think from my experiments in swimming pools) |
| 21:14 |
arb |
It takes me about 3-5 seconds to touch the bottom of a 20 feet pool |
| 21:14 |
ShadowNinja |
arb: Shift to swim down. And in real life you float. :-) |
| 21:15 |
arb |
but in minetest, the water is far too viscous |
| 21:15 |
arb |
um no you don't |
| 21:15 |
arb |
lol seriously you *don't* |
| 21:15 |
arb |
something like that I don't know wait |
| 21:15 |
arb |
yes |
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ShadowNinja |
arb: Well, depends on whether you exhale. But you can lay on your back and float. |
| 21:15 |
arb |
what can I do, I'm used to them anyway |
| 21:16 |
arb |
hmm I'll have to retry, I definitely remember floundering and sinking though |
| 21:16 |
arb |
john_minetest: no I wasn't talking about diving, just sinking gradually |
| 21:17 |
arb |
oh and do any of you have problems connecting to servers? My minetest installation takes forever just to connect |
| 21:18 |
arb |
john_minetest: no the default setup only |
| 21:18 |
arb |
although my download speed is only around 60 kbps. |
| 21:18 |
arb |
oh okay |
| 21:18 |
arb |
right stupid of me. Still how much time does it take for you? |
| 21:19 |
arb |
I mean, I'm talking about a full 7 minutes or so maybe even 10 15 |
| 21:19 |
arb |
alright alright wow |
| 21:20 |
arb |
and anyone checked out Mythruna? Man, it looks gorgeous. |
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arb |
how do I create an adventurer experience? Please tell me the mods for it. The ones I can list off my head are - hunger, mobs (or other dangerous stuff), weapons and all |
| 21:25 |
arb |
ideas? basically I want to explore caves and stuff with my friends and battle monsters |
| 21:26 |
arb |
are there any servers for that? |
| 21:27 |
arb |
I would play Don't Starve but sadly the devs said they will _never_ add multiplayer to it |
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Vicmoresd |
Well you need CaveGrower for the caves |
| 21:28 |
pandaro |
hi all |
| 21:28 |
pandaro |
I tried to add a feature to the player's hand. |
| 21:28 |
pandaro |
However, I have some problem: |
| 21:28 |
pandaro |
if I call the function: "on_use (itemstack, user, pointed_thing)" everything works perfectly. |
| 21:29 |
pandaro |
but if I call: "on_place (itemstack, user, pointed_thing)" |
| 21:29 |
arb |
john_minetest: haha I just found out about it googling "minecraft alternatives" |
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pandaro |
the function on_place is not called, does not work |
| 21:29 |
arb |
john_minetest: how does it play? The website gives me the feel that it's very very basic right now |
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Vicmoresd |
Pandaro:IDK. |
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arb |
john_minetest: seeing |
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pandaro |
Vicmoresd:I want to make atrade-off system of items between players, without throwing things on the floor, or you need a chest |
| 21:33 |
arb |
damn why are all these games made in java |
| 21:33 |
pandaro |
* a trede-off |
| 21:33 |
arb |
it's soooo slow even with JIT |
| 21:35 |
Vicmoresd |
Get Shared Locked Chests. You can find it in the mod store. |
| 21:36 |
sfan5 |
john_minetest: 404 |
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pandaro |
Vicmoresd: without chest, use only your hand |
| 21:39 |
arb |
Is there a server where I can play hardcore survival? Like hunger, mobs, and all? |
| 21:39 |
arb |
Something like Don't Starve |
| 21:42 |
* sfan5 |
took his hunger games server down |
| 21:44 |
arb |
john_minetest: this one? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1812 |
| 21:45 |
arb |
john_minetest: by hunger games, you mean the "all participants fight each other to the death" one? |
| 21:45 |
arb |
I want more of a co-op exploration server |
| 21:45 |
arb |
where I don't have to fight my friends and basically fight mobs and explore places with them |
| 21:45 |
arb |
*but* with survival elements like hunger thirst etc. |
| 21:46 |
arb |
problem is my friends don't play minecraft, they think it's boring, I'd like to introduce them to minetest and I tihnk survival would make for fun gameplay |
| 21:47 |
arb |
how do i check it's features? Like mobs and stuff |
| 21:47 |
arb |
alright seeing |
| 21:47 |
arb |
VanessaE has a survival server too in this list |
| 21:48 |
ShadowNinja |
Her survival server is heavily modded. |
| 21:48 |
arb |
john_minetest: yes got it, thanks! |
| 21:48 |
ShadowNinja |
That's the main difference between it and vanila. |
| 21:49 |
arb |
lol even mostly vanilla has about a dozen mods |
| 21:49 |
ShadowNinja |
Mostly server management mods. |
| 21:49 |
arb |
oh wait _35_ |
| 21:49 |
arb |
oh okay |
| 21:50 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: Wait, gloopblocks on vanilla? |
| 21:51 |
arb |
so I'm on Arch Linux which has 0.4.9-2. Do you guys play trunk here? What's the usual way here, like on ##crawl mostly they all play trunk (direct latest github repo) |
| 21:52 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: yeah, remember the obsidian/stone issue we discussed? |
| 21:53 |
arb |
john_minetest: so which repo do I use? I see 3 or 4. Do I use the minetest_game one? |
| 21:53 |
VanessaE |
arb: most of the "mods" showing up in the list on vanilla are the result of modpacks like worldedit, and the components that make up minetest_game itself (which is, technically, just a collection of mods also) |
| 21:54 |
arb |
VanessaE: okay understood. |
| 21:54 |
arb |
alright thanks |
| 21:55 |
arb |
hmm repo is surprisingly small |
| 21:56 |
arb |
or maybe it's just minetest, and _game will be larger |
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ShadowNinja |
The game is a lot smaller. |
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arb |
is there an "official" mobs mod or just mobf? |
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proller |
bugf |
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* arb |
notes supiciously that proller rhymes with trolle |
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ShadowNinja |
arb: That's his alternate nick. |
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arb |
*/quit |
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arb |
I am on Arch Linux. I jsut installed the "simple mobs" mod in ~/.minetest/mods/minetest/" as stated in the wiki. But it doesn't load. The mob files are in a folder called "Pilzadam..." something |
| 22:24 |
PilzAdam |
you have to rename the mod folder to "mobs" |
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arb |
Or rather, _how_ do I know the mod has been loaded? |
| 22:24 |
arb |
PilzAdam: oh okay thanks |
| 22:24 |
arb |
but in future, since it doesn't display any error messages, how do I know the mod (any mod) has been loaded or not? |
| 22:25 |
arb |
especially if it's something that I can't immediately see (like your mobs mod) |
| 22:25 |
PilzAdam |
it would show an error message if it would load |
| 22:25 |
PilzAdam |
have you enabled the mod for your world? |
| 22:25 |
arb |
yes it's global |
| 22:25 |
arb |
I mean, I created a new world |
| 22:26 |
arb |
Do I have to enable the mod separately for each world I create? |
| 22:26 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFjSFfYmjbU |
| 22:26 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 22:26 |
arb |
PilzAdam: Also, please update your simple mobs README.TXT since it doesn't say anything about renaming the folder to mobs |
| 22:26 |
PilzAdam |
its not specifc to my mod |
| 22:27 |
arb |
hmm? So for every mod, I have to rename the folder? |
| 22:27 |
PilzAdam |
for all mods from github, since github gives them random names |
| 22:27 |
PilzAdam |
this should also be somewhere in the written |
| 22:27 |
arb |
but to what? How will I know that, from forum threads? |
| 22:28 |
PilzAdam |
yea, the forum thread topic contains the modname in [] |
| 22:28 |
arb |
alright thanks |
| 22:29 |
arb |
wait what? In the mods tab I have "minetest" listed as a mod instead of "mobs" |
| 22:30 |
arb |
what's the director of installing in a system-wide linux install? ~/.minetest/mods/minetest/" or just "~/.minetest/mods/" ? |
| 22:30 |
arb |
*directory |
| 22:30 |
PilzAdam |
~/.minetest/mods/ |
| 22:30 |
PilzAdam |
oh, the readme is outdate |
| 22:30 |
PilzAdam |
+d |
| 22:31 |
arb |
yes that's what |
| 22:31 |
PilzAdam |
http://wiki.minetest.net/Installing_Mods |
| 22:31 |
PilzAdam |
^ this is the correct wiki |
| 22:31 |
PilzAdam |
the other one is outdate |
| 22:31 |
PilzAdam |
+d |
| 22:31 |
PilzAdam |
(I cant type "outdated" ;_;) |
| 22:33 |
arb |
PilzAdam: so the mod depends on "fire" which is this? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=745 though this one hasn't been updated in 2 years or so |
| 22:33 |
PilzAdam |
no, fire is part of minetest_game |
| 22:33 |
arb |
oh okay so just default |
| 22:34 |
PilzAdam |
default is another mod from minetest_game |
| 22:34 |
arb |
and when creating a world, what's the difference between the different types of mapgen? v6, v7, math and all |
| 22:34 |
arb |
lol right, I clearly have a lot to learn :) |
| 22:34 |
PilzAdam |
v6 is the "default" mapgen |
| 22:35 |
arb |
and the others? Especially "math" |
| 22:35 |
PilzAdam |
math has different settings |
| 22:36 |
PilzAdam |
you can generate a sphere, or use some crazy fractals |
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arb |
PilzAdam: YES! Working, thanks |
| 22:39 |
arb |
strange, sheep doesn't run when i hit it |
| 22:47 |
arb |
hey there must be loads of people using mobf. It's listed as depending on factions, which is not in minetest_game (as far as I can tell). So where is it? Is it this? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3294 |
| 22:49 |
PilzAdam |
arb, the dependency on factions is optional |
| 22:49 |
PilzAdam |
(according to the forum post of mobf) |
| 22:49 |
PilzAdam |
but I guess its this one: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5919 |
| 22:49 |
arb |
I know, but it's recommended |
| 22:49 |
PilzAdam |
since its from the same author |
| 22:50 |
arb |
hmm how do you know that it's not the one i linked |
| 22:50 |
arb |
oh okay |
| 22:58 |
arb |
how do I access the mobf menu? I don't see it when I press "Esc" |
| 22:58 |
PilzAdam |
its a chatcommand |
| 22:58 |
PilzAdam |
/mobf or so |
| 22:58 |
PilzAdam |
try /help |
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arb |
This is strange, I enabled secondary spawning, info of mobf shows that there are 191 mobs spawned this session, yet I haven't seen a single one |
| 23:05 |
arb |
is there any way like in PilzAdam's simple mobs, to _see_ the coordinates where the mobs are? |
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zsoltisaw |
sfan5: Ping |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
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