Time |
Nick |
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00:00 |
hmmmm |
yes |
00:00 |
* Sokomine |
grabs some nice bright homedecor lights and puts them everywhere on peacocks server |
00:01 |
us_0gb |
I wish my Minetest logs would quit getting corrupted. I've resorted to leaving my ssh portal open just to catch the error messages. But I feel vulnerable doing that. |
00:03 |
* us_0gb |
questions where his ring went, which he just noticed isn't on his finger any more |
00:09 |
NakedFury |
its from a meme |
00:09 |
NakedFury |
I think a dog meme |
00:10 |
us_0gb |
NakedFury: Ah. No wonder I don't know it. I don't really follow memes. |
00:10 |
NakedFury |
same here but had already seen a similar comment elsewhere |
00:10 |
NakedFury |
I dont get memes |
00:12 |
us_0gb |
I usually don't either. THe vast majority of them are either unfunny or irritating. |
00:14 |
SirDigby |
Happens |
00:14 |
SirDigby |
Your just going up |
00:15 |
SirDigby |
memes are made up shit from the minds of 12 year-olds |
00:16 |
jnharlin |
is there a way to tell if a particular world has jungles? before I go off and try to find one? |
00:16 |
SirDigby |
I apologize for the curse word. |
00:16 |
us_0gb |
True, true. |
00:17 |
us_0gb |
jnharlin: Check the world's meta file for the "jungles" flag. |
00:17 |
jnharlin |
thanks..and if it doesnt, can I add it to the existing world? |
00:18 |
us_0gb |
jnharlin: Officially, no, unofficially, yes, I've done it. |
00:18 |
jnharlin |
lol...unofficially? So, how do I unofficially add it then? simply add the flag? |
00:19 |
us_0gb |
jnharlin: I think you have to add the flag and a couple other lines to the file. |
00:19 |
us_0gb |
If you don't add the other lines, the flag doesn't work, I think I recall. |
00:20 |
jnharlin |
hmmm...i am using the vanilla minetest, loving it, and have a server setup with me and my daughter. We are needing cotton and the only way I see to get cotton is to find some jungle grass get a cotton seed and plant it. |
00:20 |
us_0gb |
jnharlin: Add the flag to your minetest.conf, create a new world, and copy the new world's meta file to the old world while Minetest is not running. |
00:23 |
jnharlin |
i do not see a way to create a world with or without jungles...so how does that get selected...and my current world does not have that flag :( |
00:23 |
jnharlin |
is it just "jungles" |
00:23 |
jnharlin |
V6 |
00:25 |
paramat |
the wow, such nodes server is Peacock / mauvebic's and uses my island mod for mapgen |
00:25 |
us_0gb |
jnharlin: In minetest.conf, edit the "mg_flags" value and add ", jungles" to the end. |
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us_0gb |
My new world has a nice island in the middle. |
00:32 |
us_0gb |
It's a great place to spawn. |
00:34 |
us_0gb |
I might actually import the island into my old world as a spawn area. |
00:43 |
Exio4 |
kaeza: http://www.rock.com.ar/letras/6/6521.shtml |
00:45 |
Megaf |
It's beautiful mesecons and pipeworks working together |
00:46 |
Megaf |
One can build a totally automated stone tile factory |
00:46 |
Megaf |
it gets cobble from lava and water, and fuel from cactus |
00:46 |
Megaf |
auto sufficient |
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xyz |
https://github.com/xyzz/freeminer/commit/a0b7974b01c6614ec916d2a56c1059a4c65c1844 |
00:49 |
paramat |
okay im submitting a new wieldhand texture https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/222#issuecomment-32139661 |
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01:00 |
Megaf |
xyz, looks cool |
01:01 |
ShadowNinja |
MessagePack. Protobuf would be better. |
01:01 |
ShadowNinja |
(Or a custom compatible version) |
01:02 |
xyz |
feel free to do protobuf |
01:02 |
xyz |
and what's your reasoning? |
01:04 |
ShadowNinja |
Protobuf uses a minimal amount of space for messages because you send keys only once. |
01:06 |
xyz |
doesn't matter |
01:06 |
xyz |
the difference isn't that big |
01:07 |
Exio4 |
add client-side lua before switching to protobuf |
01:07 |
Exio4 |
:D |
01:10 |
xyz |
well, that's irritating |
01:10 |
xyz |
it's 2014 already yet linux doesn't have a tool to convert part of a video to .gif animation |
01:11 |
meldrian_fail |
xyz, how bout QGifer? (untested) |
01:12 |
ShadowNinja |
Exio4: Or better: Have two people work on both. :-) |
01:12 |
xyz |
This file is coded with "avc1" codec and contains more than 1800 frames. This codec is not supported for full-length videos yet, please cut your video or use other codec like motion JPEG or YUV4. |
01:13 |
xyz |
The player failed to load the video file! |
01:13 |
xyz |
meldrian_fail: ^ |
01:13 |
Exio4 |
doesn't ffmpeg work there |
01:14 |
meldrian_fail |
in that case, another program program like pitifi or openshot is needet to trim so you are probably right. |
01:14 |
xyz |
by the way, wtf is "yuv4 video codec" |
01:15 |
xyz |
well, I just want to select a part of video and convert it to .gif, I hoped it's not that hard |
01:18 |
Exio4 |
xyz: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9878138/playing-a-specific-interval-of-a-video-in-mplayer-using-command-line-option + -vo |
01:20 |
xyz |
but that's no problem, I've already used kdenlive to extract part of video |
01:20 |
xyz |
well now qgifer accepted the file |
01:20 |
xyz |
i tried to seek it and it froze |
01:20 |
Exio4 |
mplayer -vo gifsomething then |
01:20 |
Exio4 |
gif89a |
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dragutux |
hi |
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01:23 |
xyz |
cool, it seems to know about multithreading |
01:24 |
xyz |
uh oh, it froze again |
01:29 |
xyz |
Exio4: now how do I make it not ~2.5 in size? and I also would like proper colors |
01:30 |
xyz |
also FPS is lower than source |
01:30 |
xyz |
but that's okey |
01:33 |
xyz |
imagemagick ate 4 gb of ram? that's fine too, I have a lot of free ram anyway |
01:36 |
xyz |
uh oh so what do I do? |
01:37 |
Exio4 |
the fps thingy can be fixed with :fps=XX |
01:37 |
Exio4 |
it looks somehow nice here, fwiw, (the colors) |
01:37 |
Exio4 |
also, the size? i don't know! |
01:39 |
xyz |
yeah sure colors are fine |
01:39 |
xyz |
http://i.imgur.com/68WRpvu.png |
01:44 |
Exio4 |
i can't play a 1080p gif decently |
01:44 |
Exio4 |
this cusk |
01:44 |
Exio4 |
sucks* |
01:46 |
Exio4 |
lol |
01:46 |
Exio4 |
chromium ate five gbs of ram |
01:46 |
Exio4 |
for playing the .gif |
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xyz |
can you send a sample? |
01:49 |
xyz |
of what you've got |
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02:05 |
Exio4 |
the file i generated is at 20 FPS and is 473 mb |
02:06 |
Exio4 |
a minute of gif is 500~ mb |
02:06 |
Exio4 |
neat |
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02:19 |
Exio4 |
124 MB forESD |
02:19 |
Exio4 |
/70 seconds |
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02:21 |
Exio4 |
it is funny how the ram usage goes from 2gb to 6gb that fast |
02:28 |
Exio4 |
was able to reduce it to 100mb |
02:30 |
Exio4 |
now it looks like shit |
02:34 |
xyz |
yea |
02:34 |
xyz |
I've managed to reduce it to 3 mb limit and post to /a/ |
02:34 |
xyz |
challenge completed |
02:35 |
Exio4 |
what did you do with it |
02:35 |
xyz |
downscale to 480x270, 7 fps, export to png with ffmpeg, then `convert` to gif (8 fps), then gifsicle -O2 --colors 170 |
02:36 |
xyz |
it's a 13 second gif |
02:36 |
Exio4 |
oh |
02:36 |
Exio4 |
the resolution and FPS |
02:37 |
Exio4 |
i'm using 852x480, also, 15fps |
02:37 |
xyz |
it's anime so 8 fps is something my brain can accept |
02:37 |
xyz |
and how long is it? |
02:37 |
Exio4 |
i'm only converting 70 seconds |
02:37 |
Exio4 |
but the whole episode is like 45 minutes :P |
02:38 |
xyz |
did you run gifsicle on it? |
02:38 |
Exio4 |
xyz: first episode of hannibal (tv serie) |
02:38 |
Exio4 |
nope |
02:39 |
xyz |
try it |
02:39 |
xyz |
although I don't know what do you use |
02:39 |
Exio4 |
took 43 seconds to download 126kb |
02:40 |
Exio4 |
amazing network |
02:44 |
Exio4 |
90mb |
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04:18 |
paramat |
Peacock, im testing a modified version of islands with snow and ice, how far out from world centre have your players generated chunks? |
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04:51 |
Peacock |
not very far, they seem to concentrate on 1-3 central islands lol |
04:51 |
Peacock |
they use the defaults snow and ice? |
04:53 |
Peacock |
(sorry for the delay, this up and down weather gave me a wicked cold/fever) |
05:01 |
paramat |
oh hi ;) |
05:02 |
paramat |
yeah default snow, ice. how about i put snow and ice starting 1km out? |
05:04 |
paramat |
just wondering how far out players have 'seen' and generated chunks ... anyway there'll be a param for that ... |
05:08 |
paramat |
wishing you health ... i'll set default start of snow biomes 1-2km out, its a noisy radial temp gradient |
05:09 |
paramat |
an island 'is land', it does what it says on the tin |
05:16 |
paramat |
no ... i'll make north / south cold, for a larger hot area as a strip across the world ;) toodle pip! |
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khonkhortisan |
Minetest has a common bug, mishandling a second mouse cursor. |
07:28 |
enchilado |
Having a second mouse cursor is common? |
07:28 |
khonkhortisan |
Mishandling an uncommon second mouse cursor is common |
07:28 |
khonkhortisan |
though this program does it in an original way |
07:28 |
khonkhortisan |
you can only aim the camera if you hold a button down |
07:30 |
enchilado |
Ah |
07:30 |
enchilado |
I thought you meant commonly encountered in Minetest, not a bug that was common across all programs |
07:30 |
khonkhortisan |
It also has the more popular trap the first mouse in the window even if movement from the second mouse was detected |
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08:04 |
hoodedice |
So VanessaE is up at 3 am? |
08:04 |
hoodedice |
wow |
08:04 |
VanessaE |
yup, in fact I just got up. |
08:05 |
hoodedice |
lol. And that's why you were the only American on at the time I usually connected to IRC while back in the East |
08:06 |
VanessaE |
probably |
08:06 |
hoodedice |
:| |
08:06 |
VanessaE |
this place is a graveyard at this time of night |
08:06 |
hoodedice |
Why am I awake anyway? |
08:07 |
hoodedice |
I can understand. |
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hoodedice |
So you didn't switch to FM? |
08:07 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
08:07 |
hoodedice |
Too liberal? |
08:08 |
VanessaE |
tried it, didn't work out. at the time, it was too much of a memory hog for what I had to work with |
08:08 |
VanessaE |
theoretically, I could run it now, but from watching the discussions here and in -dev, I am not inclined to. |
08:08 |
hoodedice |
They did optimise it, then again hogged it. |
08:08 |
hoodedice |
lol what discussions? |
08:09 |
VanessaE |
just general discussions across a variety of topics |
08:09 |
hoodedice |
=| |
08:09 |
VanessaE |
mostly networking-related |
08:09 |
hoodedice |
Well I'll be crashing now. Later |
08:09 |
VanessaE |
ok, cya |
08:09 |
hoodedice |
Nocturnal animal |
08:09 |
hoodedice |
=P |
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Xeprione |
hi |
10:04 |
Xeprione |
it's me, Ragnar :D |
10:04 |
Xeprione |
aka. zRokh |
10:05 |
Xeprione |
im making a FREE/Libre/Open-Source game! :D Open Source beginning from 02. 03. 2014 |
10:16 |
xyz |
:D |
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Megaf |
!up minetest.megaf.info 30003 |
10:19 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (221ms) |
10:19 |
Megaf |
Hi all |
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* VanessaE |
peeks in |
10:47 |
VanessaE |
hi |
10:49 |
Megaf |
Hi there |
10:50 |
VanessaE |
hey |
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EvergreenTree |
o/ |
11:24 |
VanessaE |
hi |
11:27 |
VanessaE |
EvergreenTree: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=125506#p125506 |
11:27 |
VanessaE |
:) |
11:27 |
VanessaE |
(namely, "* Add experimental, partial suppot for Undergrowth Modpack (not yet complete, but close).") |
11:28 |
EvergreenTree |
Nice |
11:29 |
EvergreenTree |
I'll be able to use the higher resolutions on my new computer |
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12:01 |
Megaf |
Ok, I'm stupid. I remotely logged in to my home computer via ssh and then I did # ifdown eth0 |
12:02 |
VanessaE |
oops! |
12:03 |
Megaf |
It was like. Hm, I will do ifdown and ifup to reconfigure my network, then I did ifdown and ssh stop responding. And I was like, Duh! I'm really stupid! |
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proller |
Player with an invalid name [ì‹ ì›ì§„] tried to connect |
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12:07 |
VanessaE |
hah. firefox segfaulted and took X with it. |
12:08 |
VanessaE |
PoS. |
12:09 |
Megaf |
wow |
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Megaf |
That's why I learned to run critical applications on a screen session and not in a normal terminal window |
12:09 |
EvergreenTree |
funny how you can make cool 2d stuff in blender |
12:09 |
Megaf |
s/why/how |
12:10 |
EvergreenTree |
when it's meant as a 3d animator |
12:10 |
EvergreenTree |
why? |
12:10 |
EvergreenTree |
because blender is a very powerful animator |
12:10 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: what's that got to do with anything? |
12:10 |
Megaf |
I was just correcting myself EvergreenTree, And is sounds cool to make 2D stuff in blender |
12:11 |
EvergreenTree |
oh |
12:11 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: Sometime ago I would run a service in foreground on a terminal windows, then sometimes some program would make the X die, closing the terminal window and that service running on it |
12:12 |
VanessaE |
I don't run any services from terminals in my normal desktop. |
12:12 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: so I began to run services on screen sessions, so they would run no matter what and it will be quite easy to see theier logs and stop them |
12:12 |
VanessaE |
meanwhile, that crash took down X hard enough that I had to force a reboot |
12:12 |
Megaf |
my server runs on a screen session |
12:12 |
VanessaE |
because when X goes, usually it takes the whole damn console subsystem with it :-/ |
12:13 |
VanessaE |
no servers here. Mine are on a dedicated machine up in Canada. |
12:15 |
Megaf |
mine too, but still... |
12:16 |
Megaf |
yesterday I met and helped an American guy, he's going to Uruguay by bus |
12:16 |
Megaf |
from Brazil |
12:17 |
Megaf |
Brazil and Uruguay are not cool places to visit if you don't speak a little of Portuguese and Spanish |
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VanessaE |
I think I'll stay right where I am. |
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Megaf |
VanessaE: you could go to Europe |
12:19 |
VanessaE |
why? |
12:19 |
Megaf |
I've been there, lovely place |
12:19 |
VanessaE |
I have no desire to leave |
12:19 |
Megaf |
And they speak English there |
12:19 |
VanessaE |
(and no money :P ) |
12:19 |
VanessaE |
google does some cool shit with maps there too :) |
12:20 |
VanessaE |
street view, if it spots a blue police box, will give you an option to go inside and look around....the Tardis. |
12:20 |
Megaf |
really |
12:20 |
Megaf |
? |
12:20 |
VanessaE |
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=51.492159%2C-0.19092&spn=0.005291%2C0.013937&sll=51.492140%2C-0.193028&layer=c&cid=12502927659667388442&panoid=c9UMhWP_MWm9U0L48xEjYw&cbp=13%2C291.8%2C%2C0%2C18.86&gl=US&t=m&cbll=51.492132%2C-0.192862&z=17 |
12:20 |
VanessaE |
yup |
12:21 |
VanessaE |
clock the double arrow |
12:21 |
VanessaE |
click* |
12:21 |
VanessaE |
(the << that points at the blue police box in the street view in that link there ) |
12:23 |
Megaf |
so, that where the power rangers live |
12:23 |
Megaf |
or work |
12:23 |
VanessaE |
heh |
12:23 |
VanessaE |
got that from someone on facebook the other day |
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Megaf |
Heh, I don't really use facebook |
12:38 |
Megaf |
I'm an IRC and Forums guy |
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Megaf |
adorable creatures http://uk.screen.yahoo.com/7-real-life-monsters-211827239.html?vp=1 |
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Megaf |
eth0 back up |
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Exio4 |
wow opensource game! zomg! |
14:49 |
Exio4 |
amaze! |
14:50 |
sfan5 |
hi everyone |
14:51 |
Exio4 |
hi sfan5 |
14:51 |
* sfan5 |
puts a kitten on Exio4's head |
14:51 |
* Exio4 |
rewrites sfan5 in Java |
14:51 |
sfan5 |
D: |
14:51 |
* sfan5 |
deletes every .java file |
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* Exio4 |
looks at sfan5 deleting himself |
14:52 |
* sfan5 |
throws a kitten at Exio4 |
14:56 |
* Exio4 |
rewrites sfan5 in python |
14:56 |
sfan5 |
well.. thats better |
14:56 |
Exio4 |
ok\ |
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Exio4 |
PHP then |
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greetings |
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greetz |
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troller |
compiling on slowberry pi: real 178m59.769s |
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Exio4 |
proller: the rpi is mean to be the cheapest arm board you can get |
15:56 |
Exio4 |
even if that means its performance is shit |
16:01 |
proller |
for homeless ? |
16:01 |
proller |
odroud u3 for 59$ |
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proller |
with 4 cores and 2g |
16:06 |
Exio4 |
proller: 60 USD is ~two times the rpi |
16:06 |
proller |
and 15+ times faster |
16:06 |
sfan5 |
!g odrioid u3 |
16:06 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: http://www.hardkernel.com/ |
16:06 |
Exio4 |
yeah |
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proller |
site now down for me, but look to cache\ |
16:08 |
Exio4 |
the rpi is for other user share |
16:08 |
Exio4 |
and for educationg purposes "only" |
16:08 |
Exio4 |
the odroid try to be "mid-to-high-end" arm |
16:08 |
Exio4 |
tries* |
16:10 |
zsoltisawesome |
odroid seems resonable, i mean quad core 2bg ram is pretty good for a credit card computer |
16:11 |
proller |
U smaller than credit |
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zsoltisawesome |
thats just damn mind blowing |
16:12 |
proller |
now will count compile time on odroid |
16:14 |
Exio4 |
yeah zsoltisawesome |
16:14 |
zsoltisawesome |
hey, whats a good Linux + Desktop combination to run on a Poweredge 2650: www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/2650_specs.pdf‎ |
16:14 |
Exio4 |
it is amazing but 'expensive' vs the rpi |
16:15 |
Exio4 |
it is like, why buy an i7 xxxK if you'll end having it at 1% most of the time and rarely get over 5% :D |
16:15 |
zsoltisawesome |
ya |
16:16 |
zsoltisawesome |
but, its good for cheap techies :D |
16:16 |
proller |
you cant feel difference i7 vs i3 |
16:16 |
proller |
because i3 enough for ~anything |
16:17 |
zsoltisawesome |
anyone? |
16:19 |
zsoltisawesome |
how fucking hilarious: http://www.amazon.com/Dell-PowerEdge-2650-2-8Ghz-5x73GB/dp/B0011FQY1M |
16:19 |
kaeza |
see also: "640K ought to be enough for anyone" |
16:19 |
zsoltisawesome |
i got 4 of them for $80 |
16:21 |
sfan5 |
Exio4: my raspi works fine as printer server, torrent server and network fs share |
16:23 |
specing |
proller: did you disable fluidic dirt? |
16:23 |
proller |
mobile core i5 4cores : 4m42.736s |
16:24 |
proller |
specing, do you want it ? |
16:25 |
proller |
odroid x2: real 11m8.961s |
16:25 |
Exio4 |
exactly sfan5 |
16:26 |
proller |
core i7 8cores : real 1m55.024s |
16:26 |
Exio4 |
8 threads |
16:26 |
Exio4 |
not cores. |
16:26 |
Exio4 |
also |
16:26 |
Exio4 |
"i7" doesn't say much |
16:26 |
Exio4 |
it can be first gen and mobile |
16:26 |
Exio4 |
or last gen and K |
16:26 |
Exio4 |
or the one that haz six cores |
16:27 |
proller |
8 for OS |
16:27 |
specing |
proller: LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG |
16:27 |
Exio4 |
8 threads proller |
16:27 |
proller |
no sense |
16:27 |
Exio4 |
you have four hyperthreaded cores |
16:28 |
proller |
if i disable HT i will get /2 performanse |
16:28 |
Exio4 |
you won't |
16:28 |
proller |
test it |
16:28 |
Exio4 |
i did |
16:28 |
proller |
and& |
16:28 |
proller |
? |
16:28 |
proller |
in real app like ^ compiling |
16:28 |
Exio4 |
yeah |
16:28 |
Exio4 |
try it by yourself |
16:29 |
Exio4 |
hyperthreading only duplicates the stream lines and pipelines, and lets the cpu use unused cpu cycles |
16:29 |
proller |
show results |
16:29 |
Exio4 |
even intel itself says the performance increase isn't 2x |
16:30 |
Exio4 |
and also, 2x performance is impossible |
16:30 |
zsoltisawesome |
this will trend on twitter! #9001 #itsover9000 |
16:30 |
Exio4 |
because multithreading overhead. |
16:30 |
proller |
okay, 1.8 |
16:30 |
Exio4 |
cool story |
16:30 |
Exio4 |
but not real |
16:30 |
Exio4 |
proller: give me real benchmarks |
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proller |
sysbench ~1.8 faster |
16:31 |
Exio4 |
links, please? |
16:31 |
Exio4 |
also, what tests there? |
16:31 |
proller |
cpu |
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Exio4 |
http://blog.stuffedcow.net/2011/08/hyperthreading-performance/ |
16:32 |
Exio4 |
proller: ALU? FPU? |
16:32 |
Exio4 |
http://blog.stuffedcow.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/thread-scaling.png this |
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Exio4 |
hyperthreading is good for IO-bound tasks |
16:33 |
Exio4 |
in real power terms, it isn't that good |
16:34 |
specing |
I think I found a big red |
16:34 |
xyz |
so what's the use for RPi? |
16:34 |
specing |
fireball + fire everywhere |
16:34 |
proller |
specing, its top lava spring |
16:34 |
Exio4 |
xyz: education purposes, learning programming with a super-cheap box, printer server / torrent server / network fs share |
16:35 |
iqualfragile |
specing: i think you meant dm |
16:35 |
proller |
pi unusable for any purposes |
16:35 |
Exio4 |
yeah, it is unusable for watching 4k movies |
16:36 |
Exio4 |
do you want me to repeat what i said since you started saying the same bullshit over and over? |
16:36 |
zsoltisawesome |
proller: pi is very usable |
16:36 |
xyz |
Exio4: wait, why do you need it to learn to program? |
16:36 |
xyz |
I somehow managed to do that without any raspberries |
16:36 |
iqualfragile |
xyz: you do not need it |
16:37 |
Exio4 |
xyz: give 4000 rapis to students, or 4000 odroid |
16:37 |
Exio4 |
rapis doesn't that nice |
16:37 |
Exio4 |
rpis, there! |
16:37 |
iqualfragile |
but usualy people do not have linux on their main computers |
16:37 |
xyz |
Exio4: I don't understand |
16:37 |
xyz |
Exio4: if you're giving rpis to students |
16:37 |
xyz |
then they probably already own a PC |
16:37 |
zsoltisawesome |
iqualfragile: NO SHIT |
16:38 |
xyz |
so what is it for? |
16:38 |
iqualfragile |
so if they have that rpi which has linux on it and some gpios starting to program and hardwarehacking is a lot easier |
16:38 |
Exio4 |
what is the whole point of having arm boards, following what you said? |
16:38 |
zsoltisawesome |
xyz: Classrom use |
16:38 |
xyz |
for some hacking |
16:38 |
iqualfragile |
zsoltisawesome: yes, luckily this channel is a bit off |
16:38 |
xyz |
not "education" |
16:38 |
Exio4 |
you can hack with 8bit PICs |
16:38 |
zsoltisawesome |
iqualfragile: lol |
16:38 |
xyz |
yes, you can |
16:39 |
xyz |
but it's easier with a proper linux box |
16:39 |
Exio4 |
the point of the rpi is having the cheapest-arm-board you can get |
16:39 |
zsoltisawesome |
i still havent got an answer |
16:39 |
Exio4 |
i'm not willing to pay 700 ARS for an arm box |
16:39 |
xyz |
you can just write a server in python to control your lights, and it'll just work |
16:39 |
xyz |
so it's the cheapiest one? |
16:39 |
xyz |
hard to believe |
16:39 |
iqualfragile |
Exio4: whats 700 ARS in real money? |
16:39 |
Exio4 |
you can get some rough average by /10 |
16:40 |
iqualfragile |
xyz: it has quite a nice price-value ratio |
16:40 |
Exio4 |
(/10 =~ USD) |
16:40 |
iqualfragile |
no, real money |
16:40 |
Exio4 |
ok |
16:40 |
zsoltisawesome |
"hey, whats a good Linux + Desktop combination to run on a Poweredge 2650: www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/2650_specs.pdf‎" |
16:40 |
zsoltisawesome |
iqualfragile: USD is not real money? |
16:40 |
Exio4 |
xyz: tell me other ARM board |
16:40 |
Exio4 |
that is cheaper, less than 25USD, please |
16:40 |
xyz |
Exio4: I don't know any |
16:41 |
proller |
for controlling light much better to use arduino nano for 10$ |
16:41 |
xyz |
I'm just saying it's hard to believe |
16:41 |
Exio4 |
what is the whole point of having intel atom, celeron, sempron, or APUs |
16:41 |
Exio4 |
if the people can be happy with i7 and FX 8xxx |
16:42 |
Exio4 |
you get better price/performance with the high end hardware |
16:42 |
Exio4 |
perf/price, there |
16:43 |
xyz |
oh, I know |
16:43 |
xyz |
raspberry pi has CEC |
16:43 |
sfan5 |
CEC? |
16:43 |
xyz |
and costs less than pulse-eight's adapter |
16:43 |
xyz |
too bad it's useless because it's just so damn slow |
16:43 |
iqualfragile |
sfan5: some hdmi drm i think |
16:43 |
xyz |
http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=CEC |
16:44 |
xyz |
drm? no |
16:44 |
xyz |
hdmi drm is called hdcp |
16:44 |
Exio4 |
The median improvement for HT is 25%. |
16:44 |
Exio4 |
based on proller's comments it is 100% |
16:44 |
iqualfragile |
was cracked recently |
16:44 |
Exio4 |
nice |
16:44 |
xyz |
who cares? |
16:45 |
iqualfragile |
* The median improvement for HT benchmarking perfectly paralisable task is 25% |
16:45 |
iqualfragile |
and thats why i buy i5s not i7s |
16:45 |
Exio4 |
the rpi doesn't fit your workflow? you are free to don't use it and be like "zomg it doesnt work 4me!! |
16:45 |
Exio4 |
" |
16:45 |
xyz |
hm |
16:45 |
Exio4 |
i would like to buy an odroid, yeah |
16:46 |
Exio4 |
my budget is too limited |
16:46 |
Exio4 |
what should i do |
16:46 |
xyz |
why are you so aggressive? |
16:46 |
Exio4 |
xyz: i'm a bit tired of the same BS all the time |
16:46 |
xyz |
what BS? |
16:46 |
xyz |
that people tell you RPi is slow? |
16:46 |
xyz |
it is, don't you agree? |
16:46 |
Exio4 |
the point of the entry-level hardware |
16:46 |
harrison |
i deny it! |
16:46 |
Exio4 |
it is fucking slow |
16:46 |
Exio4 |
and it is also fucking cheap |
16:47 |
xyz |
I still don't understand why are you so angry :( |
16:47 |
Exio4 |
i still love you xyz |
16:47 |
Exio4 |
where can we meet tonight? |
16:47 |
xyz |
but that's gay |
16:48 |
Exio4 |
>:D |
16:48 |
Exio4 |
i'm still waiting for proller's source for the 100% improvement when enabling HT |
16:48 |
xyz |
wait, I had a gif somewhere |
16:48 |
iqualfragile |
Exio4: you need to understand: he is from the 3rd world country russia and they are scared of gays around there |
16:49 |
proller |
i'm still waiting for Exio4's source for the 25% improvement when enabling HT |
16:49 |
Exio4 |
i'm from argentina |
16:49 |
Exio4 |
proller: i posted it |
16:49 |
Exio4 |
http://blog.stuffedcow.net/2011/08/hyperthreading-performance/ |
16:49 |
iqualfragile |
Exio4: i am aware of that |
16:49 |
proller |
no, it not yours |
16:50 |
iqualfragile |
proller: wtf? i am even suprized that it _has_ 25% improvement do you realy think it gets faster then that? |
16:50 |
iqualfragile |
tip: there is no actual performance gain, just less switching active processes |
16:50 |
iqualfragile |
so less performance loss |
16:51 |
Exio4 |
i'm searching for official intel link |
16:51 |
Exio4 |
hyperthreading is hardware assisted threading |
16:51 |
proller |
stop googling, just compile minetest 2 times |
16:51 |
Exio4 |
my actual cpu isn't an hyperthreaded-one |
16:51 |
Exio4 |
also, are you taking the cache in account? |
16:52 |
proller |
make clean; make -j8 |
16:52 |
Exio4 |
my cpu has six cores |
16:53 |
xyz |
"there's no more performance gain, there's less performance loss" |
16:53 |
Exio4 |
lol |
16:53 |
Exio4 |
it is a nice idea for using unused cpu cycles |
16:53 |
xyz |
Exio4: stop-being-so-gay.gif http://25.media.tumblr.com/6bea9f98ffb9ec06e42d972581e7a43d/tumblr_mz6golMmpB1qzqnxxo1_r1_500.gif |
16:53 |
Exio4 |
yeah |
16:53 |
iqualfragile |
ah, forgot that they obviously have more registers |
16:53 |
iqualfragile |
sorry |
16:53 |
iqualfragile |
so: yes there is a slight improvement |
16:53 |
Exio4 |
xyz: </3 |
16:54 |
iqualfragile |
Exio4: i meant xyz is from russia |
16:54 |
Exio4 |
i know |
16:54 |
Exio4 |
just look at #fm :p |
16:55 |
Exio4 |
http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/performance-insights-to-intel-hyper-threading-technology |
16:55 |
iqualfragile |
xyz: what i meant was: using too many active processes on a cpu reduces performance, for a perfectly paralizable task its slower to run it using 8 processes on a 4-core cpu |
16:56 |
iqualfragile |
ht increases that limit to twice the number of physical cores |
16:56 |
proller |
specing, dirt disabled ;) |
16:56 |
specing |
proller: am I in final mountain? or do you still dont know |
16:56 |
iqualfragile |
thats what i meant with less performance loss |
16:56 |
specing |
proller: I remebmer you said to go forawrd |
16:56 |
harrison |
not if it is perfectly ||izable but there are cache misses (main memory accesses) |
16:56 |
xyz |
iqualfragile: so it's actually faster? |
16:57 |
harrison |
then ht can switch to another thread which is not waiting for memory |
16:57 |
harrison |
obv |
16:57 |
iqualfragile |
if it would be just for that: no |
16:57 |
proller |
no, you near first WTF demo ;) |
16:57 |
iqualfragile |
but there is a bit more: the bigger registers speed things up |
16:57 |
specing |
proller: wat? |
16:58 |
proller |
go forward! |
16:58 |
iqualfragile |
if it would be just for that running the benchmark with 4 processes on a 4 core cpu and runing it with 8 on a ht cpu would not make any difference |
16:58 |
specing |
proller: so if I just go forward, I'll smash to clear? |
16:58 |
Exio4 |
he is right now, there is a performance improvement in some workloads |
16:58 |
specing |
proller: at 400 height? |
16:58 |
Exio4 |
but in multithreading scaling terms... it is plain shit |
16:58 |
proller |
specing, forward-up |
16:58 |
proller |
it just begining |
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proller |
specing, its GOAL: http://forum.freeminer.org/threads/post-your-screenshots.9/page-2#post-505 |
16:59 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
16:59 |
Exio4 |
what did Pilz mean? :P |
16:59 |
proller |
left part not loaded |
17:00 |
Exio4 |
PilzAdam: hi |
17:00 |
Exio4 |
:D |
17:00 |
iqualfragile |
Exio4: mushroom |
17:03 |
Exio4 |
so, he is a Mushroom called Adam? D: |
17:03 |
Exio4 |
what is this |
17:03 |
iqualfragile |
Exio4: nah, not realy |
17:03 |
iqualfragile |
in the german language you can combine words |
17:04 |
iqualfragile |
it would be more like mushroom-typed-adam |
17:04 |
iqualfragile |
it realy not that easy to translate |
17:04 |
Exio4 |
yeah, german is weird |
17:07 |
xyz |
> in the german language you can combine words > yeah, german is weird |
17:07 |
xyz |
shit #minetest says |
17:08 |
specing |
Is there anything useful I could craft from dirt? I have more than 30x 99 of it |
17:08 |
xyz |
it's more fun without context! |
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markveidemanis |
Hello! |
17:13 |
xyz |
fucking xbmc repo is over 1 GiB in size |
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Exio4 |
xyz: is the irony too hard to express? |
17:30 |
xyz |
Exio4: no, for some people it's hard to understand :^) |
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iqualfragile |
specing: why would you have that much dirt? |
17:41 |
iqualfragile |
cobble i would understand |
17:41 |
iqualfragile |
but dirt? |
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proller |
on roat dirt is flowing |
17:43 |
proller |
you cant make hole it dirt |
17:43 |
proller |
it starts fall |
17:43 |
proller |
you can build only pyramid from dirt |
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PilzAdam |
quote of the day: "how do we "on" the shaders?" |
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kaeza |
he accidentally his sentence |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
18:04 |
kaeza |
hey ruben |
18:04 |
rubenwardy |
What cha doing? |
18:06 |
kaeza |
The same thing I do every evening: try to take over the world! |
18:07 |
rubenwardy |
Yaaay! |
18:07 |
kaeza |
a.k.a. coding useless shite |
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specing |
iqualfragile: I have more than 2000 cobble ;D |
18:09 |
* rubenwardy |
might actually play minetest for the first time in 2 months |
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rubenwardy |
not including mod testing |
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proller |
specing, did you reack 7k ? |
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proller |
you will need all your cobble soon ;) |
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proller |
wow! new fast result for pi: real 125m32.273s |
18:35 |
specing |
does ItemStack(itemstring) create an empty item stack or is it created with one element in it? |
18:35 |
specing |
http://dev.minetest.net/ItemStack |
18:35 |
PilzAdam |
depends on itemstring |
18:35 |
specing |
proller: I didn't |
18:35 |
PilzAdam |
"default:dirt 5" creates a stack with 5 items |
18:36 |
PilzAdam |
"default:dirt" creates a stack with 1 item |
18:36 |
specing |
PilzAdam: ah ok |
18:36 |
specing |
PilzAdam: Im using the itemstring returned from get drops |
18:36 |
specing |
(working on making you mod less time-consuming) |
18:36 |
specing |
^ TNT |
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specing |
I cannot digest lua |
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specing |
return ItemStack("default:grass_1 "..itemstack:get_count()-(1-ret:get_count())) |
19:06 |
specing |
^ works in main repo |
19:06 |
specing |
print "ejecting "..stack:get_name() |
19:06 |
specing |
^ doesen't work in my code |
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kahrl |
specing: try adding () around the arguments to print |
19:26 |
specing |
Are lua tables pass by value (copy)? |
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markveidemanis |
/seen Rhy5 |
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specing |
and if so, how do I pass them by reference? |
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sfan5 |
pass by ref in lua? |
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xyz |
no, they aren't copied |
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specing |
well, Im filling the table up third call deep |
19:32 |
specing |
and then in the main function I get 0 elements |
19:33 |
VanessaE |
hi |
19:37 |
specing |
Well, the problem may be somewhere else |
19:39 |
specing |
Im checkign if table[elem] == nil |
19:39 |
specing |
and it fails that check, meanign *something* is in there |
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Megaf |
!seen Lukc |
19:57 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Sorry, I haven't seen lukc around. |
19:58 |
specing |
Ok, I give up |
19:59 |
OWNSyouAll |
Hey the forums are 502 erroring |
20:01 |
specing |
http://bpaste.net/show/MzhOaZ3HLQl5jRlAY8H9/ |
20:01 |
specing |
why is #drops always 0? |
20:01 |
VanessaE |
I had a feeling the forums were about to crap out - they've been slow off and on for a couple of days now |
20:04 |
PilzAdam |
specing, # only counts elements with integers as index |
20:04 |
* VanessaE |
panics... no forums...no forums... AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH |
20:04 |
PilzAdam |
xyz, forums are down? |
20:05 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: can you rebase the VBO branch please? |
20:05 |
PilzAdam |
why? |
20:06 |
VanessaE |
be...cause it doesn't apply (or didn't last time I tried) against current git? :) |
20:06 |
VanessaE |
hasn't for a while now :( |
20:06 |
PilzAdam |
the feature is broken and no solutions are found yet |
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20:08 |
VanessaE |
broken? |
20:08 |
PilzAdam |
it leaks |
20:08 |
VanessaE |
never leaked for me |
20:09 |
* VanessaE |
shrugs |
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20:14 |
VanessaE |
the performance boost was worth the memory usage. |
20:15 |
Megaf |
Hi VanessaE |
20:15 |
VanessaE |
hi |
20:15 |
Megaf |
what are you talking about? |
20:15 |
VanessaE |
doesn't matter |
20:15 |
Megaf |
Ok, I'm sorry |
20:15 |
xyz |
PilzAdam: yes |
20:15 |
PilzAdam |
Megaf, when creating an issue, please add the commit hash instead of writing "latest" |
20:16 |
Megaf |
PilzAdam, Ok |
20:16 |
specing |
PilzAdam: well ~ |
20:16 |
specing |
PilzAdam: what do? |
20:20 |
xyz |
every time something goes wrong someone "had a feeling […]" even though everything worked great! |
20:23 |
OWNSyouAll |
forums look like their back up |
20:24 |
VanessaE |
xyz: I did report it when I first noticed it. you seemed disinterested in the report at the time. |
20:24 |
VanessaE |
glad it's back though |
20:27 |
xyz |
uhh? when did you report it? did you higlight me? |
20:28 |
VanessaE |
indeed I did. |
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20:29 |
VanessaE |
pretty sure I did anyway |
20:29 |
xyz |
well then next time send me a private message |
20:30 |
VanessaE |
Jan 10 2014 12:23:48 <VanessaE> xyz: forums seem to be having problems... |
20:30 |
xyz |
nice |
20:30 |
VanessaE |
whereupon you advised me to "do research before reporting stuff like that". |
20:31 |
xyz |
<xyz> no |
20:31 |
xyz |
<xyz> please do research before reporting stuff like that |
20:31 |
xyz |
yes, because they weren't down |
20:31 |
xyz |
anyway, I'm tired of this discussion |
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20:31 |
VanessaE |
... |
20:31 |
VanessaE |
(when did I say they were down?) |
20:36 |
VanessaE |
wtf is going on with people in this community lately? |
20:36 |
PilzAdam |
a lot of long standing members seem to lose interest in it? |
20:40 |
VanessaE |
I can appreciate people losing interest, but I refuse to accept people just plain being nasty. |
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21:46 |
sfan5 |
xyz|imag1nary: znc is still broken |
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22:06 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: 04<3 Quassel |
22:06 |
sfan5 |
znc has nothing to do with irc clients (not directly) |
22:06 |
sfan5 |
also this: |
22:06 |
sfan5 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=125708#p125708 |
22:07 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: Yes, it's a bouncer. Quassel is a client with a seperated core, which makes it a special bouncer. |
22:08 |
sfan5 |
ah, ok |
22:09 |
khonkhortisan |
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22:10 |
sfan5 |
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22:10 |
ShadowNinja |
~heart |
22:10 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: 04<3 |
22:10 |
khonkhortisan |
â¤â™¡â£ |
22:10 |
ShadowNinja |
:-) |
22:10 |
khonkhortisan |
🂱 |
22:11 |
sfan5 |
<3 MinetestBot |
22:11 |
MinetestBot |
<3 sfan5 |
22:14 |
OWNSyouAll |
I keep getting bad allocation when trying to use texture packs with alot of mods installed any work around for this? |
22:14 |
ShadowBot |
http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html |
22:14 |
VanessaE |
add RAM |
22:15 |
VanessaE |
or close some programs |
22:15 |
VanessaE |
or add some swap |
22:15 |
VanessaE |
(page file, whatever your OS calls it) |
22:15 |
OWNSyouAll |
I have 6gb free |
22:15 |
VanessaE |
use a 64bit OS then |
22:15 |
OWNSyouAll |
I'am |
22:15 |
VanessaE |
build from sources then? |
22:16 |
OWNSyouAll |
Is the windows build only 32bit? |
22:16 |
VanessaE |
idk |
22:16 |
khonkhortisan |
there's a point where adding swap stops helping with freezing |
22:16 |
VanessaE |
it might be |
22:16 |
VanessaE |
whose build are you using? |
22:17 |
OWNSyouAll |
minetest.net |
22:17 |
OWNSyouAll |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases/download/0.4.9/minetest-0.4.9.zip |
22:17 |
VanessaE |
try fess's build then, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6745 |
22:18 |
VanessaE |
it's a little newer than the minetest.net build, though it isn't quite at latest git |
22:18 |
VanessaE |
that one, http://yadi.sk/d/Fj1irx0CFN9zQ |
22:25 |
OWNSyouAll |
Ok that build used up all my RAM so it appears that one works |
22:26 |
VanessaE |
good deal |
22:27 |
VanessaE |
if all your RAM isn't being used, it's being wasted. |
22:27 |
VanessaE |
(seriously) |
22:27 |
VanessaE |
RAm must always be used - if not for programs, then for cache or buffers |
22:27 |
VanessaE |
unused RAM is wasted RAM |
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OWNSyouAll |
Ram looks like it's peaking at 11 GB GPU is only at 582MB though |
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22:40 |
VanessaE |
what texture pack are you using? |
22:41 |
OWNSyouAll |
GPU is up to 1.4GB i'm using HDX |
22:41 |
VanessaE |
step down to the 256px size then. That size only takes ~4.2 GB when using my survival server :-) |
22:41 |
VanessaE |
(at least in Linux) |
22:49 |
khonkhortisan |
typing 1234567890 four times on the numpad results in 90909090333 |
22:50 |
OWNSyouAll |
khonkhortisan, how high are you right now? |
22:50 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm never high |
22:51 |
khonkhortisan |
but keycode.cpp doesn't give me a hint as to why |
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khonkhortisan |
GUITextInputMenu isn't getting 1 or 7 down because they're caught beforehand as home and end, but it does get keyup for those. |
23:04 |
Hirato |
time to go SDL2 ? |
23:05 |
Hirato |
I'd expect them to be caught as home/end/whatever if numlock is off |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: khonkhortisan commited to minetest/minetest: Allow vertical axis particle rotation constraint 2b1eff7725 2014-01-13T14:34:56-08:00 http://git.io/rssAKQ |
23:11 |
khonkhortisan |
what? |
23:13 |
ShadowNinja |
Hopefully the old non-table API dies quickly. :-) |
23:14 |
ShadowNinja |
khonkhortisan: Now update the dev wiki. :-) |
23:16 |
khonkhortisan |
particles aren't even on there |
23:17 |
kahrl |
not particularly good... |
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23:21 |
VanessaE |
hi John |
23:25 |
fwilson |
hi john |
23:28 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Add formspec table 8966c16ad2 2014-01-13T15:11:08-08:00 http://git.io/eins2Q |
23:39 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm not MLP or MOU |
23:45 |
khonkhortisan |
<source> is duplicated when previewing a new wiki page - and it doesn't word wrap |
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khonkhortisan |
I'm not my little pony nor my own uncle |