| Time |
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| 00:00 |
Evergreen |
Sup everyone |
| 00:03 |
VanessaE |
hi |
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NekoGloop |
Evergreen, the table "glooptest" is a table of tables of tables, with one of those tables being a table of tables that has to do with wooden tables. |
| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
and all of that contained in the global Lua table :) |
| 00:10 |
Evergreen |
Tableception |
| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
which is run in a computer that sits on your table. |
| 00:10 |
NekoGloop |
if only my computer were on a table |
| 00:48 |
cy1 |
So the books mods are kind of eh. |
| 00:48 |
cy1 |
There's a mod to write on paper, but only paper, and only one page. |
| 00:49 |
cy1 |
There's a mod to write on bookshelves (?) but only two pages on that. |
| 00:49 |
cy1 |
What we need is a mod to write in books, with a page turning UI, and then a mod to make bookshelves act like chests which can only store books. |
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cy1 |
Not sure where to put all that text in books though. Some kind of minetest.localstore[...] thing... |
| 00:50 |
thefamilygrog66 |
hey! |
| 00:51 |
thefamilygrog66 |
what's that sound of an aircraft taking off? must be my computer compiling minetest... |
| 00:52 |
Evergreen |
plol |
| 00:52 |
Miner_48er |
cy1 something like the wiki mod? |
| 00:53 |
cy1 |
Miner_48er: Huh, yeah that one's pretty neat. |
| 00:55 |
cy1 |
My idea has the books just numbered though, to distinguish their contents. Not a single book capable of loading all the book material. |
| 00:59 |
NakedFury |
how many pages per book on your concept idea? |
| 00:59 |
cy1 |
NakedFury: I wouldn't set a particular limit I guess. Maybe 100 max? |
| 01:00 |
NakedFury |
it could depend on like you said how they are stored or possibly book types. |
| 01:00 |
NakedFury |
books or scrolls |
| 01:00 |
cy1 |
Meh, there's already a written paper mod. |
| 01:00 |
NakedFury |
Tomes |
| 01:01 |
NakedFury |
well if you do the book idea you might as well do individual paper too with your storing method |
| 01:01 |
cy1 |
With my book idea, the books would be read/writable, not the paper. The other mod only touches the paper. Works out IMO |
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cy1 |
Maybe the books mod could make books from written paper, with the contents pre-loaded... that's the only crossover I can see. |
| 01:11 |
cy1 |
Oh my other idea was to have a way for the server to send files after the world is loaded. For non-essential things like sounds and stuff. |
| 01:11 |
cy1 |
*non-obvious |
| 01:12 |
NakedFury |
send files to client? |
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| 01:21 |
cy1 |
Yeah. |
| 01:22 |
cy1 |
Does anyone know how to do permissions in minetest? Like, placing a node, digging a node etc |
| 01:23 |
NakedFury |
no |
| 01:23 |
cy1 |
oh right, privilege |
| 01:27 |
kaeza |
check_player_privs() and get_player_privs() |
| 01:27 |
kaeza |
(or the `privs' field in chat command def) |
| 01:27 |
cy1 |
Thanks kaeza |
| 01:35 |
cy1 |
hm... |
| 01:35 |
NakedFury |
working on your server privs? |
| 01:35 |
cy1 |
Nah, just poking at books ideas. |
| 01:36 |
cy1 |
interesting problem with item_drop. Keeping a static ID for a book. If drops are enabled, upon digging the ID must transfer from the node to the entity. If not, the ID must transfer from the node to the inventory slot it goes in. Which the entity must do if "picked up" |
| 01:39 |
NekoGloop |
Hm. Has sdzen/muadtralk just wandered off the face of the earth? Haven't seen them in a while. [/randomnote] |
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cy1 |
Oh yay, entity.itemstring is stack:to_string() that saves metadata I think. |
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zsoltisawesome |
!seen us`0gb |
| 02:59 |
MinetestBot |
zsoltisawesome: us`0gb was last seen at 2013-10-14 23:00:50 UTC on #minetest |
| 02:59 |
zsoltisawesome |
:( |
| 03:00 |
zsoltisawesome |
!seen paramat |
| 03:00 |
MinetestBot |
zsoltisawesome: paramat was last seen at 2013-10-17 05:12:35 UTC on #minetest |
| 03:10 |
cy1 |
Hmm... |
| 03:11 |
cy1 |
if you call minetest.show_formspec then will interaction with that form result in an on_player_recieve_fields? |
| 03:11 |
cy1 |
I'm still not clear what a "detached" inventory is. |
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rainbow_dash_ |
Hi, I'm new here... And I have a question... Can anyone explain how git works? I'm sort of lost... |
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thefamilygrog66 |
I wish I could explain it properly... :) |
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| 03:16 |
zsoltisawesome |
Explain what? |
| 03:17 |
thefamilygrog66 |
git |
| 03:17 |
zsoltisawesome |
To whom? |
| 03:17 |
thefamilygrog66 |
rainbow_dash_ |
| 03:18 |
zsoltisawesome |
Ah ok |
| 03:18 |
zsoltisawesome |
So I got my server computers |
| 03:18 |
rainbow_dash_ |
Sounds expensive... |
| 03:18 |
thefamilygrog66 |
oh yeah? |
| 03:19 |
thefamilygrog66 |
what are you trying to do with git, rainbow_dash_? |
| 03:19 |
zsoltisawesome |
Yup, 4 Dell PowerEdge 2560's |
| 03:21 |
rainbow_dash_ |
Well, I'm trying to help a friend upload a lua file to his fork of minetest |
| 03:21 |
rainbow_dash_ |
Oh crap, gtg all, see you later! |
| 03:23 |
zsoltisawesome |
*facepalm* I showed him how to do it once already... |
| 03:24 |
zsoltisawesome |
So yeah I got those server computers |
| 03:26 |
zsoltisawesome |
Is 2gb ram and 2 dualcore intel xeon 2ghz processors good? |
| 03:27 |
zsoltisawesome |
To host a MT server? |
| 03:29 |
NekoGloop |
!seen sdzen |
| 03:29 |
MinetestBot |
NekoGloop: Sorry, I haven't seen sdzen around. |
| 03:29 |
NekoGloop |
meh |
| 03:33 |
zsoltisawesome |
!seen NekoGloop |
| 03:33 |
MinetestBot |
zsoltisawesome: nekogloop was last seen at 2013-10-18 03:29:51 UTC on #minetest |
| 03:33 |
zsoltisawesome |
Lol |
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NekoGloop |
!seen my_ass |
| 03:59 |
MinetestBot |
NekoGloop: Sorry, I haven't seen my_ass around. |
| 04:00 |
kaeza |
lol |
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| 04:13 |
stormchaser3000 |
hi |
| 04:13 |
stormchaser3000 |
is anyone on |
| 04:13 |
us}0gb |
Hello! |
| 04:13 |
stormchaser3000 |
hi |
| 04:13 |
us}0gb |
Nope, no one is on. |
| 04:14 |
* us}0gb |
is just the greeter robot |
| 04:14 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol |
| 04:14 |
stormchaser3000 |
nice one |
| 04:15 |
zsoltisawesome |
Lol |
| 04:15 |
NekoGloop |
ew IceChat :l |
| 04:16 |
zsoltisawesome |
Hello my fine friend! |
| 04:16 |
stormchaser3000 |
yeah i hate ice chat |
| 04:16 |
stormchaser3000 |
but i use it |
| 04:16 |
us}0gb |
WHat's wrong with IceChat? |
| 04:16 |
* us}0gb |
has never tried it |
| 04:17 |
* us}0gb |
hopes it's not as bad as Pidgin |
| 04:17 |
stormchaser3000 |
it sucks |
| 04:17 |
NekoGloop |
it treats every message as a ping |
| 04:17 |
NekoGloop |
EVERY. MESSAGE. |
| 04:17 |
stormchaser3000 |
i get an error when trying to log on |
| 04:17 |
us}0gb |
I set my chat client to do that. |
| 04:17 |
stormchaser3000 |
be cause of my intenet |
| 04:17 |
us}0gb |
Not get an error, but alert me to all messages. |
| 04:18 |
stormchaser3000 |
yea it alearts me |
| 04:18 |
stormchaser3000 |
i am going to make a outube video |
| 04:18 |
stormchaser3000 |
youtube |
| 04:18 |
stormchaser3000 |
of minetest classic |
| 04:18 |
stormchaser3000 |
by darkrose |
| 04:18 |
us}0gb |
I've been meaning to try Minetest Classic, but haven't found the time. |
| 04:19 |
stormchaser3000 |
i can give you the cource |
| 04:19 |
stormchaser3000 |
source |
| 04:19 |
stormchaser3000 |
if you want |
| 04:19 |
stormchaser3000 |
thare is no linux build |
| 04:19 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol |
| 04:19 |
us}0gb |
Yeah, I noticed the lack of a build. |
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| 04:20 |
us}0gb |
I can build it when I have time though. |
| 04:20 |
zsoltisawesome |
Wine? |
| 04:20 |
us}0gb |
But that could be a while. |
| 04:20 |
zsoltisawesome |
Lol |
| 04:20 |
us}0gb |
Wine? No thanks, I don't drink. |
| 04:21 |
zsoltisawesome |
WHITTY JOKE ALERT XD |
| 04:21 |
zsoltisawesome |
I know I spelled it wrong |
| 04:21 |
us}0gb |
No worries. I can't spell either. |
| 04:22 |
zsoltisawesome |
Lol |
| 04:22 |
zsoltisawesome |
Lol |
| 04:23 |
zsoltisawesome |
Oops |
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zsoltisawesome |
It's been silent for over an hour |
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zsoltisawesome |
It's been silent for over 2 Hours |
| 06:32 |
zsoltisawesome |
What's up with that |
| 06:33 |
us}0gb |
No it hasn't. You said something an hour ago. |
| 06:33 |
* us}0gb |
busts up laughing |
| 06:37 |
zsoltisawesome |
ãŸã¯ãŸã‚‰ã‚„ã•ãŸã¯ã‚„らã¦ãŸã¯ãŸã•ã‚„ã¯ãŸã«ã¬ã¬ã¾ã¯ãŸã‚‰ã¯ãŸã•ãŸã‚Šã•ãŸã¯ãŸ |
| 06:37 |
zsoltisawesome |
That's My opinion |
| 06:37 |
VanessaE |
dafuq? |
| 06:38 |
* VanessaE |
doesn't read chinese. |
| 06:38 |
VanessaE |
or whatever language that is |
| 06:44 |
zsoltisawesome |
It's japanese, get it right |
| 06:45 |
us}0gb |
If she doesn't know the language, how can she get it right? |
| 06:45 |
zsoltisawesome |
Chinese make rice, Japanese make anime |
| 06:45 |
zsoltisawesome |
Lol |
| 06:47 |
zsoltisawesome |
Read my lips, no new taxes <---- biggest lie in the US government |
| 06:47 |
VanessaE |
um, that was like 20 years ago |
| 06:47 |
VanessaE |
more, even |
| 06:47 |
VanessaE |
still as big a lie as ever though :P |
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zsoltisawesome |
Ya that was my point |
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Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released; 0.4.8 will be released soonâ„¢ | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Don't ask about asking questions. |
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| 07:28 |
artur99 |
hi |
| 07:28 |
us}0gb |
Hello! |
| 07:28 |
artur99 |
how is called the selling license |
| 07:28 |
artur99 |
? |
| 07:28 |
artur99 |
eg: |
| 07:29 |
artur99 |
i build a game |
| 07:29 |
artur99 |
and you want to sell it on your website |
| 07:29 |
artur99 |
you have to buy from me the selling license |
| 07:29 |
artur99 |
how is that license called? |
| 07:30 |
us}0gb |
I don't know what that is called, but it doesn't sound like something we support here. |
| 07:30 |
artur99 |
yes, i know |
| 07:30 |
artur99 |
but i dont know where to ask ::D |
| 07:32 |
artur99 |
any new relases? |
| 07:33 |
us}0gb |
Of Minetest? The latest is 0.4.7, I don't know if that's new for you. |
| 07:34 |
artur99 |
its the first sime when i see you in this room, us}0gb... |
| 07:35 |
artur99 |
*time |
| 07:35 |
us}0gb |
I'm here sort of frequently, but not all the time. |
| 07:35 |
artur99 |
when did u come? :) |
| 07:35 |
us}0gb |
About a month ago, I think? |
| 07:36 |
artur99 |
oh... thats why i couldnt see you:) |
| 07:36 |
artur99 |
i am here since the half of 2012 |
| 07:37 |
artur99 |
but last months i couldnt get in |
| 07:37 |
us}0gb |
Why not? Technical difficulties? |
| 07:37 |
artur99 |
no. i didnt accessed freenode for about 2-3 months |
| 07:38 |
us}0gb |
That explains why I recognize your name. I used to come here months ago, but I quit Minetest. |
| 07:38 |
artur99 |
i was very busy |
| 07:38 |
artur99 |
i have a lot og homeworks |
| 07:38 |
artur99 |
*of homework |
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artur99 |
what do you mean you used to come here? |
| 07:39 |
us}0gb |
I mean I used to use this channel. But then I quit using this channel. Now I'm back. |
| 07:40 |
artur99 |
oh, so, you saw me a long time ago? |
| 07:40 |
artur99 |
on this channel? |
| 07:40 |
us}0gb |
I think so, yes. |
| 07:41 |
artur99 |
:) |
| 07:41 |
us}0gb |
Though that was back when I was us_0gb or [0gb_us]. |
| 07:41 |
artur99 |
oh, i think i remember |
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zsoltisawesome |
hello! |
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artur99 |
hi |
| 07:44 |
zsoltisawesome |
ah finally a person who is awake! |
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us}0gb |
Hello! |
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deltib |
there, my keyboard is all clean, and the tribble I pulled out of it, thrown in the trash |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all! Happy Friday, and happy Anti-Slavery Day! :-D |
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adityarajbhatt |
I am playing minetest for the first time. Surprisingly good. Graphics are sleek and the game runs *very* fast on my machine. Why is this? Is it because it has less features compared to Minecraft? |
| 09:13 |
adityarajbhatt |
Ugh, movement is so smooth and fast and suddenly you drop into water and... snail's pace. It is *too* viscous compared to normal rate of sinking of a human body. |
| 09:13 |
JamesTait |
The native C implementation probably doesn't hurt, Minecraft is written in Java. |
| 09:14 |
adityarajbhatt |
Minetest is in c or c++ ? That would explain it though. |
| 09:14 |
JamesTait |
Oh, it might be C++, I don't remember exactly. |
| 09:15 |
Kray |
minetest engine is c++ |
| 09:15 |
adityarajbhatt |
Wait... yes it is C++. Written in the Irrlicht engine (whatever that is). |
| 09:15 |
JamesTait |
Yes, C++ it is. |
| 09:15 |
adityarajbhatt |
By the way, water is too dense. Anyone else think so? |
| 09:15 |
VanessaE |
it's C++/ |
| 09:15 |
VanessaE |
and Lua for the game content. |
| 09:16 |
VanessaE |
and yeah, the water is too viscous. |
| 09:16 |
adityarajbhatt |
Seriously, it takes too long to reach the bottom of anything. What is enable disable full viewing range? |
| 09:16 |
adityarajbhatt |
I meant bottom of a lake or so. But full viewing range? |
| 09:16 |
VanessaE |
that allows you to see all blocks that have been explored recently. |
| 09:17 |
VanessaE |
regardless of the effect on fps |
| 09:17 |
VanessaE |
oh, bottom of a lake? swim down. |
| 09:17 |
VanessaE |
(shift) |
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adityarajbhatt |
Okay. So is shift used for anything else? Like running or something. |
| 09:18 |
VanessaE |
(or E, depending on your version and/or key mappings) |
| 09:18 |
VanessaE |
running is usually E, if 'fast' is enabled. |
| 09:18 |
VanessaE |
shift is also used to sneak |
| 09:18 |
VanessaE |
it's confusing at first but after a few mins it makes sense. |
| 09:18 |
VanessaE |
I have mine mapped so that E is fast/descend, and shift is sneak |
| 09:19 |
adityarajbhatt |
Where are all the monsters? Have not seen even one till now and its already night. |
| 09:19 |
VanessaE |
you need a mod for that. |
| 09:19 |
Wuzzy |
adityarajbhatt: See <http://wiki.minetest.net/Controls>, this page covers pretty much every use of [Shift] |
| 09:19 |
VanessaE |
MOBF or Simple Mobs |
| 09:19 |
VanessaE |
those are the two that are most commonly used. |
| 09:19 |
adityarajbhatt |
Wait, there are no ingame mobs? |
| 09:19 |
VanessaE |
They're still considered experimental byt they'll eventually be put into the default game later. |
| 09:19 |
VanessaE |
but* |
| 09:20 |
Wuzzy |
Is it planned that mods become part of the core? |
| 09:20 |
VanessaE |
(what exactly will make it into the default game remains to be seen) |
| 09:20 |
VanessaE |
not part of the core. part of the default game, but how exactly they will be added, and what exactly will be added back, is still undetermined. |
| 09:20 |
adityarajbhatt |
Now that _is_ a damper. |
| 09:20 |
VanessaE |
they were in C++ at one time, but were removed because that method was too inflexible. |
| 09:21 |
VanessaE |
mods are a standard part of minetest |
| 09:21 |
adityarajbhatt |
Are the mods good? |
| 09:21 |
VanessaE |
yep |
| 09:21 |
adityarajbhatt |
Oh okay. |
| 09:21 |
VanessaE |
there are many good mods |
| 09:21 |
VanessaE |
and unlike MC, you don't need special loaders |
| 09:21 |
VanessaE |
or reverse engineering |
| 09:21 |
Wuzzy |
:-) |
| 09:21 |
adityarajbhatt |
Yes, I have come to *hate* MC pretty much. |
| 09:21 |
Wuzzy |
Mods are natively supported in MT :-)))))) |
| 09:21 |
adityarajbhatt |
Their IRC channel is quite rude. |
| 09:21 |
VanessaE |
mods are an officially-sanctioned and supported concept in Minetest |
| 09:22 |
VanessaE |
and there is a good modding community and a decent modding API also |
| 09:22 |
VanessaE |
yes, others have said the same. |
| 09:22 |
adityarajbhatt |
That is what put me off mods in MC in the first place. No support from Mojang for them. Good to see things are different here. |
| 09:22 |
adityarajbhatt |
...no hunger! Wonderful, I am loving this more and more. |
| 09:23 |
VanessaE |
nope, but there are a couple of mods that add it :) |
| 09:23 |
Wuzzy |
adityarajbhatt: See also <http://wiki.minetest.net/> which covers many gameplay-related topics. I, amongst others, worked pretty hard on it. :-) (still incomplete though) |
| 09:23 |
adityarajbhatt |
Hunger is just stupid for an exploration/building game. Now if you had a hunger games server it would certainly be sensible. But otherwise, I feel it just detracts from the fun and immersion. |
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Wuzzy |
ummm |
| 09:24 |
Wuzzy |
We HAVE a hunger games server xD |
| 09:24 |
adityarajbhatt |
That's okay. Just would have been bad for the default game if I constantly had to worry about the food clock. |
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Wuzzy |
You said the MC channel is pretty rude. How bad is it? |
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adityarajbhatt |
Well, I think it was more of a gut reaction. I mean...how do I put this...I was playing MC through an "unofficial" launcher. |
| 09:26 |
adityarajbhatt |
I am just 16 and my parents won't cough up money for games so... |
| 09:26 |
VanessaE |
pirate ;) |
| 09:27 |
adityarajbhatt |
I mentioned this in passing and things got ugly. :( What can I do? My hands are tied. |
| 09:27 |
adityarajbhatt |
I would gladly shell over money for the game if I could. |
| 09:27 |
VanessaE |
minetest is designed from the ground up to be free. |
| 09:27 |
adityarajbhatt |
Yes I know that. Part of the goodies. And my, the movement is so _smooth_. |
| 09:28 |
Wuzzy |
free as in "freedom" AND as in "free beer" to be precise |
| 09:28 |
VanessaE |
Wuzzy: yep |
| 09:28 |
adityarajbhatt |
Oh its open source? |
| 09:28 |
VanessaE |
yep |
| 09:28 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest |
| 09:29 |
VanessaE |
that's the engine. https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/ for the game content |
| 09:29 |
adityarajbhatt |
This gets better and better. |
| 09:29 |
Wuzzy |
Oh before I forget: Welcome to the Minetest community, adityarajbhatt! |
| 09:30 |
adityarajbhatt |
:) Thanks. |
| 09:30 |
adityarajbhatt |
I will have to brush up my C++ chops (not that they were any good before ;). Wonderful opportunity to add your own content to a game. |
| 09:31 |
Wuzzy |
what do you mean with “content� |
| 09:32 |
adityarajbhatt |
You know stuff like mobs and all. This is the first time I am playing a game where mods are so common and accepted. |
| 09:33 |
adityarajbhatt |
Contrast this to the studying you have to do to operate mods in MC. Anyway, glad for such a game. |
| 09:33 |
Wuzzy |
Oh so you want to add mobs right into the engine. |
| 09:35 |
VanessaE |
mobs won't be accepted into the engine. |
| 09:36 |
VanessaE |
those are to remain as Lua |
| 09:36 |
VanessaE |
but what would probably be accepted are ways to make mobs behave more smoothly, better prediction, AI, that sort of thing. |
| 09:37 |
VanessaE |
to get a better idea of what the devs want, when you're ready, go to #minetest-dev and hang around for a while until you're comfortable in there. Make your proposals and see if you can strike up a conversation with one or more code devs |
| 09:37 |
VanessaE |
hah, you're alreayd there :) |
| 09:37 |
JamesTait |
My eldest son saved up his money to buy MC. He wanted to add a mod, I forget which now, and we had to jump through so many hoops, back up the entire MC directory, hack things into the .jar file and we still haven't got it working. |
| 09:37 |
VanessaE |
as usual, I'm a step behind :P |
| 09:38 |
JamesTait |
His comment: "I wish mods were easy to add in Minecraft like they are in Minetest." |
| 09:39 |
JamesTait |
Oh, and not to mention adf.ly - how I've come to hate that site. |
| 09:39 |
adityarajbhatt |
:) I feel for your son. Well, my parents will know if I spend my pocket money to buy games. I can buy all the fantasy books I want, but one mention of games and my parents are up in arms! All part of an effort not to get me _addicted_ to the computer. TOO LATE! |
| 09:39 |
adityarajbhatt |
bit.ly is much better in my experience. |
| 09:39 |
VanessaE |
in fact all of the default game content in Minetest is provided by a bunch of mods |
| 09:40 |
VanessaE |
it's just that those mods come with the game :) |
| 09:40 |
JamesTait |
It's a sound approach, IMO. |
| 09:41 |
Wuzzy |
Actually the term “mod†is a bit misleading because the pure Minetest engine does not do anything. You need some mods to be able to play anything at all. |
| 09:41 |
VanessaE |
right. |
| 09:41 |
Wuzzy |
btw: I do not propose a different term. ;-) No need to worry. |
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Wuzzy |
Oh and I hate adf.ly, too. |
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Wuzzy |
This is one of the web sites which need to FUCKING DIE. :O |
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cy1 |
VanessaE: fixed item_drop ... |
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cy1 |
I'm so tired |
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cy1 |
hello Wuzzy you seem nice |
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Wuzzy |
hi |
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VanessaE |
night all. |
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Exio4 |
for mods you can use lua |
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Exio4 |
er |
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jemadux |
at minetest there's zombies on survival ? |
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adityarajbhatt |
jemadux: No, not by default. You have to install mods, google "minetest mods" and see. |
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jemadux |
adityarajbhatt: i see ... :) |
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* arsdragonfly |
's PC fails to boot again after a two-week downtime |
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VanessaE |
CMOS battery went flat? |
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VanessaE |
(== the settings got erased/changed) |
| 15:10 |
sfan5 |
yay, the ubuntu 13.10 update didn't break anything |
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sfan5 |
well.. except some small things |
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sfan5 |
like this... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1235785 |
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IceCraft |
hi |
| 15:22 |
sfan5 |
nice, ubuntu now shows the battery of my mouse instead of my laptop battery in the top bar |
| 15:27 |
zat |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2aioEom0tY |
| 15:27 |
zat |
Has anybody seen that kind of screens available in the market? |
| 15:31 |
Jordach |
hey IceCraft |
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IceCraft |
hi |
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VanessaE |
yes, the XO laptop has that. |
| 15:34 |
VanessaE |
can switch between color LCD -> ePaper display |
| 15:34 |
VanessaE |
or so I'd heard. |
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VanessaE |
or maybe it was just backlit color -> reflective b&w |
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zat |
It is actual LCD, not real eInk. |
| 15:36 |
zat |
Well, not the kind of eInk that we knew. |
| 15:37 |
zat |
The thing is that it is reflective and that is awesome |
| 15:37 |
zat |
for years I have dreamed of having such a screen and I yet cannot understand how they have not become ultra popular. |
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zat |
They should be available by now on all laptops ...I think. |
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sfan5 |
yess! |
| 15:40 |
VanessaE |
one would hope so |
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sfan5 |
wine finally fixed itself |
| 15:40 |
VanessaE |
but the XO at least has it |
| 15:40 |
VanessaE |
problem is such a screen is surely twice as expensive as a plain old backlict ISP LCD. |
| 15:40 |
VanessaE |
IPS* |
| 15:41 |
zat |
maybe or maybe not |
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arsdragonfly |
john_minetest, sometimes opening the chassis and using a hairdryer makes it work again :-P |
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* Jordach |
remembers why Jordach prefers a torrent |
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Jordach |
<FileSharer> Oh, your computer broke connection, want to restart? Wait 1 hour. |
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thexyz |
torrent is a tool, it can't be illegal |
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thexyz |
it's like saying kitchen knives are illegal because you can kill people using them |
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Jordach |
haha |
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Jordach |
true |
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Jordach |
\o/ |
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Jordach |
dafuq |
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Jordach |
> download manager > open source > gpl v3 |
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Jordach |
that's a first |
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Evolykane |
Hi |
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adityarajbhatt |
Torrents are awesome. Archlinux (a rolling-release distro) uses them for their images (over 700mb). In fact they actively encourage people to use torrent so that their own servers do not get overloaded and we all get faster downloads by helping each other (sharing p2p chunks). |
| 16:38 |
us_0gb |
Every time I try downloading an .iso via torrent, it gets corrupted and won't install properly. I don't know why. I like the idea of torrents, but I can't seem to make them work. |
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sfan5 |
us_0gb: try a different torrent client |
| 16:39 |
us_0gb |
What client do you guys use? |
| 16:39 |
thexyz |
us_0gb: what's your torrent client? |
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us_0gb |
The default for many systems: Transmission. |
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adityarajbhatt |
rtorrent ftw! |
| 16:40 |
adityarajbhatt |
It takes a little work to get it set up but after that, nothing is as fast, powerful or efficient. |
| 16:41 |
adityarajbhatt |
There is even a channel here ##rtorrent. |
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thexyz |
transmission is fine |
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us_0gb |
rtorrent seems to be a command line application, according to its description in the package manager. THat's great for a lot of people, but I need something graphical. |
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thexyz |
I personally use Vuze |
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adityarajbhatt |
Transmission is geared towards newbies. If you want true power, you should choose rtorrent. But each to his own. |
| 16:44 |
FreeFull |
You should always check the hash after getting a big file from the internet |
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thexyz |
inb4 lolbloat, loljava |
| 16:44 |
FreeFull |
Real power probably doesn't matter much if you don't tend to torrent |
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us_0gb |
THe hash ... yeah, that would save me from burning bad ISOs to CDs. |
| 16:45 |
thexyz |
your client should be able to check the hash, actually |
| 16:45 |
us_0gb |
I don't torrent often. I tend to try the torrent for bootable ISOs, but not much else. |
| 16:46 |
proller |
serverlist updated: http://servers.minetest.net/ |
| 16:46 |
FreeFull |
Open source operating system ISOs are typically the only thing I will ever torrent for |
| 16:46 |
FreeFull |
And I haven't torrented in a long, long time |
| 16:48 |
adityarajbhatt |
FreeFull: You seem to have a bad burnout from torrents. Well, I am sorry for you, but for me torrents are the best thing ever. Best part is the more popular something gets, the more people seed it, and so the faster the download becomes. And rtorrent has automatic hashing so I need not worry about corrupted downloads. |
| 16:48 |
adityarajbhatt |
Of course the whole concept only works if you are good enough to seed yourself rather than being a leech. I always seed my torrents. |
| 16:49 |
sfan5 |
proller: 'Now players' why didn't anybody complain about that? |
| 16:49 |
FreeFull |
Bad burnout? |
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us_0gb |
I always seed at least 200% of what I took, but then I shut down Transmission. |
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us_0gb |
FreeFull, I think adityarajbhatt meant me with the bad burnout comment. |
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proller |
sfan5, oops.. |
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adityarajbhatt |
Oh no it was FreeFull. He said "...are typically the only thing I will _ever_ torrent for" I assumed he must have had a bad experience. |
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FreeFull |
I just don't have any reason to torrent otherwise |
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us_0gb |
Ah. THat's all I torrent for as well, but it's just that most things I download don't offer a torrent option. |
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cac |
Hi, I'm running Minetest on my netbook, which runs OpenBSD, and am getting a very strange issue. |
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adityarajbhatt |
cac: Elaborate? |
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zsoltisawesome |
precisely |
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thexyz |
I've got 8.979 TB uploaded, am I cool? |
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cac |
I get normal fps, when every couple seconds, it pauses completely for just a second and then goes back to normal. |
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zsoltisawesome |
WHAT? where? |
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zsoltisawesome |
hmm |
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zsoltisawesome |
odd |
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cac |
I have verified it's not a driver issue. I've run it on my desktop(which uses a radeon) as well as my netbook(which uses intel integrated). |
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us_0gb |
cac, I have that issue as well sometimes. I don't know why. |
| 16:53 |
cac |
Other games(like supertuxkart and openarena) run fine |
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zsoltisawesome |
It used to do that to me too |
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us_0gb |
It typically happens for me when I have very low FPS. |
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zsoltisawesome |
its just has to get used to the computer, it might not like the ram |
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zsoltisawesome |
YAY! |
| 16:54 |
FreeFull |
Sounds like some sort of world update or garbage collection to me |
| 16:54 |
zsoltisawesome |
maybe |
| 16:54 |
zsoltisawesome |
just let it generate the world for a while, and see if that makes a different |
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us_0gb |
The screens is moving along smoothly, than it will pause for a second or two. |
| 16:54 |
cac |
Version is 0.4.7. |
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zsoltisawesome |
*difference |
| 16:54 |
cac |
OpenBSD version is 5.4-current. |
| 16:55 |
FreeFull |
I think it's just some problem in minetest itself |
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zsoltisawesome |
sound like a thing with generation |
| 16:55 |
zsoltisawesome |
me too |
| 16:55 |
cac |
or irrlicht. |
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FreeFull |
Could be irrlicht too |
| 16:55 |
stormchaser3000 |
hi |
| 16:55 |
zsoltisawesome |
maybe |
| 16:55 |
cac |
I wish I knew some more irrlicht games that were in ports. |
| 16:55 |
zsoltisawesome |
Hi |
| 16:55 |
FreeFull |
Not OpenBSD specific though |
| 16:56 |
us_0gb |
I've had that problem without OpenBSD, so it's definitely not a problem with that. |
| 16:56 |
stormchaser3000 |
who want's a windows build of minetest classic |
| 16:56 |
cac |
apparently, if other are having the same issue |
| 16:56 |
zsoltisawesome |
i do |
| 16:56 |
stormchaser3000 |
i will compile in a while |
| 16:56 |
zsoltisawesome |
ok cool |
| 16:56 |
zsoltisawesome |
where did you get the code? |
| 16:56 |
FreeFull |
Any time someone mentions minetest classic, I start missing c55's server again ): |
| 16:56 |
stormchaser3000 |
i mean the next branch |
| 16:57 |
us_0gb |
I've been meaning to try Minetest Classic, but haven't found the time. |
| 16:57 |
stormchaser3000 |
no i mean dark roses code of minetest 0.3.1 not jrojachs (i forgot how to spell his username) |
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sfan5 |
wee... stdarg.h is missing |
| 16:57 |
stormchaser3000 |
here 0gb what linux do you use |
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FreeFull |
stdarg.h is a POSIX header |
| 16:57 |
stormchaser3000 |
i can open vm |
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zsoltisawesome |
ah, i remember Minetest 0.3.1 |
| 16:57 |
stormchaser3000 |
and compile |
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us_0gb |
I use Trisquel. |
| 16:58 |
stormchaser3000 |
ok |
| 16:58 |
stormchaser3000 |
when i get fast internet i will start a vm |
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us_0gb |
No need, it's the time to play that I lack, but thanks for the offer. |
| 16:58 |
stormchaser3000 |
and compile |
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zsoltisawesome |
I use OpenSUSE derivative |
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us_0gb |
I can compile while I sleep. |
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zsoltisawesome |
lol |
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sfan5 |
FreeFull: the ubuntu 13.10 update apparently removed it |
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zsoltisawesome |
thats what i will use the server for! |
| 16:58 |
stormchaser3000 |
ok so zso |
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stormchaser3000 |
i will compile oncee visual studio installs |
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zsoltisawesome |
and im using Windows atm |
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zsoltisawesome |
so just complie for windows |
| 16:59 |
stormchaser3000 |
and i re-install cmake |
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zsoltisawesome |
ok |
| 16:59 |
stormchaser3000 |
then i can compile |
| 16:59 |
stormchaser3000 |
i looked it up on youtube |
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stormchaser3000 |
and i found it |
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stormchaser3000 |
it is easy to use visual studiio |
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us_0gb |
I really should learn how to cross-compile to Windows .... It wouldn't be useful to me, but it would be useful for helping other people. |
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zsoltisawesome |
i hear its difficult |
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stormchaser3000 |
i used menche's windows cross compile |
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stormchaser3000 |
it was broken |
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stormchaser3000 |
but here i can give a donload link for you zso |
| 17:02 |
stormchaser3000 |
menche crss-compiled minetest-classic for windows |
| 17:02 |
stormchaser3000 |
the menu is broken but it is playable |
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proller |
but numbers works! |
| 17:03 |
proller |
and server client list |
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stormchaser3000 |
http://menche.us/files/minetest-1310.00-win32.zip |
| 17:04 |
stormchaser3000 |
zso click that link |
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zsoltisawesome |
ok |
| 17:05 |
stormchaser3000 |
you can go to multi player on it but singleplayer works |
| 17:05 |
stormchaser3000 |
tthat is the next branch of minetest classic |
| 17:05 |
stormchaser3000 |
that menche cross compiles |
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zsoltisawesome |
why does multiplayer not workk? |
| 17:10 |
Jordach |
holy shit |
| 17:10 |
Jordach |
holy shit |
| 17:10 |
Jordach |
you can use [img] tags on .svg |
| 17:10 |
us_0gb |
What is .svg? |
| 17:11 |
Jordach |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=114748#p114748 |
| 17:11 |
Jordach |
us_0gb, scalable vector graphics |
| 17:11 |
stormchaser3000 |
it crashes every time you try to click on the multiplayer tab |
| 17:11 |
stormchaser3000 |
but you can use singleplayer |
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us_0gb |
Jordach, nice! I didn't think forums allowed that. |
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Jordach |
us_0gb, now only if blender rendered in svg |
| 17:12 |
Jordach |
i wouldnt have to make 1080p |
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stormchaser3000 |
hey jrodach i ama going to try to compile your minetest-classic and darkrose's |
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zsoltisawesome |
the one you gave me the tab works ine |
| 17:12 |
zsoltisawesome |
*fine |
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Jordach |
stormchaser3000, no need |
| 17:12 |
Jordach |
darkrose continued where i left off |
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stormchaser3000 |
oh ok |
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stormchaser3000 |
i want to try tours though |
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stormchaser3000 |
it looks interesting |
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stormchaser3000 |
of minetst 0.2 instead of 0.3 |
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stormchaser3000 |
mabie manche updated i |
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Jordach |
darkrose is looking for textures to replace minetest-classic's current ones |
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* Jordach |
is working on it |
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stormchaser3000 |
use minetest 0.3.1 win32 build textures |
| 17:23 |
Jordach |
he wants new textures |
| 17:23 |
stormchaser3000 |
oh |
| 17:23 |
stormchaser3000 |
so minetest 0.4.7 textures |
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stormchaser3000 |
i hav started working on a minetest 0.4.7 for 0.3.1 tp |
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stormchaser3000 |
i can make it minetest0.4.7 for classic |
| 17:24 |
stormchaser3000 |
textures |
| 17:24 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/VFXRsQD.png |
| 17:25 |
Jordach |
new apple |
| 17:26 |
Jordach |
and as always, sam II goes in |
| 17:26 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol |
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proller |
current players: - better? |
| 17:42 |
stormchaser3000 |
oh hi proller |
| 17:42 |
proller |
hi |
| 17:43 |
stormchaser3000 |
nice build of minetest |
| 17:44 |
stormchaser3000 |
i got sfan5's build of your fork |
| 17:44 |
stormchaser3000 |
it was awesome |
| 17:44 |
stormchaser3000 |
but it lacks compatibility of non basic servers |
| 17:44 |
stormchaser3000 |
:( |
| 17:49 |
proller |
where? |
| 17:49 |
proller |
must be fully compatible |
| 17:49 |
stormchaser3000 |
on vanessaE's server |
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stormchaser3000 |
um |
| 17:49 |
stormchaser3000 |
and a few others |
| 17:49 |
VanessaE |
what's not compatible? |
| 17:49 |
stormchaser3000 |
i will look again |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
any of sfan5's recent builds should work fine. |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
the problem is that horrible fps slowdown problem |
| 17:50 |
stormchaser3000 |
prollers fork of minetest (just has a lot of merge requests) |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
may be related to player models, which I have noticed animate REALLY SLOWLY now |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
(as if everyone's sneaking |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
) |
| 17:50 |
stormchaser3000 |
yeah i noticed that to |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
on my server or everywhere?> |
| 17:50 |
us_0gb |
Hmm. Might be time to go back to flat players for a while. |
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Dan_D |
Is there any way of making Simplemobs 2d? ANd what mobs were in 0.3.1? |
| 17:51 |
VanessaE |
0.3.1 had dungeon masters, oerkkis, and rats |
| 17:51 |
VanessaE |
and no |
| 17:51 |
Dan_D |
Just them?Ok |
| 17:51 |
VanessaE |
use MOBF for that. |
| 17:51 |
Dan_D |
Why? |
| 17:52 |
VanessaE |
because it natively supports 2d mode. |
| 17:52 |
Dan_D |
And are the rats in mobf placeable? |
| 17:52 |
VanessaE |
dik |
| 17:52 |
VanessaE |
idk |
| 17:52 |
Dan_D |
ie, do they use default rat item? |
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Dan_D |
sapier |
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Dan_D |
sapier1 |
| 17:54 |
Dan_D |
Can they permanently be made 2d? I am re-stoking Minetest Nostalgia,and I want to add the 0.3.1 mods, 2d of course |
| 17:54 |
stormchaser3000 |
actualy use the legacy mod |
| 17:54 |
stormchaser3000 |
it is in minetest game |
| 17:55 |
stormchaser3000 |
just put in conf |
| 17:55 |
Dan_D |
I thought that just added aliases |
| 17:55 |
us_0gb |
It does. And adds the items, but it does NOT add the mobs. |
| 17:55 |
Dan_D |
Exactly |
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zsoltisawesome |
UHG |
| 17:55 |
Dan_D |
I want the 2d mobs |
| 17:56 |
Dan_D |
A light-weight version with 2d mobs |
| 17:56 |
stormchaser3000 |
only_peaceful_mobs = false |
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stormchaser3000 |
it works |
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kaeza |
"lightweight" and "mobs" don't fit in the same sentence sadly :( |
| 17:57 |
stormchaser3000 |
not only adding alieses |
| 17:57 |
Dan_D |
stormchaser, thaht won't add the mobs though |
| 17:57 |
Dan_D |
That just disables bad mobs from Simplemobs |
| 17:57 |
us_0gb |
I've read the code in legacy/init.lua. Id doesn't add any mobs. |
| 17:57 |
stormchaser3000 |
just add in the conf file:only_peaceful_mobs = true |
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Dan_D |
That won't add the mobs |
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stormchaser3000 |
only_peaceful_mobs = true |
| 17:57 |
stormchaser3000 |
i know |
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Dan_D |
And I want the oerkii etc |
| 17:58 |
Dan_D |
Just 2d |
| 17:58 |
stormchaser3000 |
but try it i had one person do that and they found a dungeon master on there new map |
| 17:58 |
Dan_D |
No they didn't |
| 17:58 |
stormchaser3000 |
on minetest 0.4.7 |
| 17:58 |
us_0gb |
They were using a plugin then. |
| 17:58 |
stormchaser3000 |
yes they did |
| 17:58 |
Dan_D |
That DISABLES all bad mobs from Simplemobs |
| 17:58 |
Dan_D |
So I don't believe you |
| 17:59 |
stormchaser3000 |
here use this old version of th elegacy mod |
| 17:59 |
Dan_D |
No. |
| 17:59 |
Dan_D |
There is no mob code in the legacy mod |
| 17:59 |
stormchaser3000 |
there is |
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Jordach |
i've made some nice 1800's style bricks: http://i.imgur.com/cK9bFIe.png |
| 17:59 |
Dan_D |
NO THERE IS NOT! |
| 17:59 |
stormchaser3000 |
there used to be in erlier versions of minetest |
| 17:59 |
stormchaser3000 |
proof picture time |
| 17:59 |
Dan_D |
Minetest 0.4.7-dev is not an earlier version |
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zsoltisawesome |
there is no longer mob code in legacy |
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* stormchaser3000 |
get's out screen recoreder |
| 18:00 |
Dan_D |
Exactly |
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zsoltisawesome |
bricks |
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us_0gb |
Jordach, nice! |
| 18:00 |
zsoltisawesome |
lol |
| 18:00 |
Jordach |
oh god im laughing my tits off at some spammer in |
| 18:00 |
Jordach |
freenode |
| 18:00 |
zsoltisawesome |
maybe tone the brightness down a tad? |
| 18:00 |
zsoltisawesome |
XD |
| 18:00 |
VanessaE |
there hasn't been any significant mob-related code in Minetest since 0.4 came out |
| 18:01 |
Jordach |
zsoltisawesome, my fireplace has orange bricks |
| 18:01 |
Jordach |
back then bricks we're not a darkish red |
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us_0gb |
My server went down again, it appears ... But this time I have the loop command, so "loop startminetest" should keep it up. |
| 18:01 |
zsoltisawesome |
i would have made them dark brown |
| 18:02 |
stormchaser3000 |
but there used to be |
| 18:02 |
Jordach |
us_0gb, use while True do ./minetestserver --shit here then |
| 18:02 |
stormchaser3000 |
there was mob code |
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Dan_D |
Not now |
| 18:02 |
VanessaE |
while true; do minetestserver; sleep 5; done |
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Jordach |
Menche, thanks for the windows build |
| 18:02 |
stormchaser3000 |
i know so here in a sec |
| 18:02 |
VanessaE |
that's the proper way to do it. |
| 18:02 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, i used that as well |
| 18:03 |
Menche |
did the newewr windows build actually work? |
| 18:03 |
Jordach |
YES |
| 18:03 |
Jordach |
it works for me |
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us_0gb |
Jordach, that's basically what "loop startminetest" does, but startminetest also backs up the world data. |
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zsoltisawesome |
it works for me too |
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zat |
ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...t/bin/../games/minetest_game/mods/default/player.lua:125: attempt to index local 'anim' (a nil value) |
| 18:06 |
zat |
wat |
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VanessaE |
zat: that happens on my server too. |
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us_0gb |
My server STILL isn't on the list .... maybe it wasn't down then. |
| 18:07 |
zat |
Any guess VanessaE¡ |
| 18:07 |
zat |
? |
| 18:08 |
stormchaser3000 |
nvm |
| 18:08 |
kaeza |
the player code could use an overhaul |
| 18:08 |
VanessaE |
no idea why it does it, but see #minetest-dev log for today |
| 18:08 |
kaeza |
it's way overcomplicated IMHO (sorry Taoki) |
| 18:09 |
zat |
uh |
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VanessaE |
I've reported this twice at least. first time resulted in a possible fix but I was never able to confirm the fix worked. that fix has since fallen out of my local repo for whatever reason, but it may still work if re-applied. |
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cy1 |
zat: Be sure to update to the latest minetest_game. Mine doesn't have 'anim' on line 125 in player.lua |
| 18:18 |
cy1 |
VanessaE: |
| 18:19 |
cy1 |
"index ... (a nil value)" is usually as simple as saying if anim ~= nil then ... end around it |
| 18:19 |
VanessaE |
mine has? |
| 18:19 |
VanessaE |
pl:set_animation({x=anim.stand_START, y=anim.stand_END}, animation_speed_mod, animation_blend) |
| 18:20 |
VanessaE |
I show my copy being up-to-date. |
| 18:20 |
cy1 |
uh, hold on... I might be on a personal branch |
| 18:20 |
cy1 |
Oh no I was |
| 18:21 |
cy1 |
I was looking at line 123 by mistake |
| 18:22 |
cy1 |
yeah I see the problem |
| 18:22 |
cy1 |
player_get_animations returns nil if the model is anything besides "character.x" |
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kaeza |
the issue is that there's no way to disable player anim code |
| 18:23 |
kaeza |
and there's no public API to change it either |
| 18:24 |
cy1 |
No the issue is that none of the other .x models have animations. |
| 18:24 |
VanessaE |
cy1: any of these look like player models, by any chance? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6258947/ |
| 18:24 |
cy1 |
But that's an issue too, yes. |
| 18:24 |
VanessaE |
(other than line 18) |
| 18:24 |
cy1 |
VanessaE: line 18 is probably the culprit. Or rather, the completely reasonable action which exposes the bug in default/player.lua |
| 18:25 |
VanessaE |
cy1: thats just my mod archive |
| 18:25 |
VanessaE |
that's not what's actually on the server |
| 18:25 |
cy1 |
oh, hm |
| 18:25 |
VanessaE |
lemme get that list. |
| 18:25 |
VanessaE |
http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6258961/ |
| 18:26 |
VanessaE |
that's what's actually there |
| 18:26 |
cy1 |
I assume a different player model would be a different sort of mesh, like a pony. |
| 18:26 |
VanessaE |
though I don't think wield3d_character.x is actually *used* by any of the code. |
| 18:27 |
cy1 |
Eh I'll try to get something that yields a more responsive error... |
| 18:27 |
VanessaE |
hm |
| 18:27 |
VanessaE |
wield3d DOES use that model by name, |
| 18:28 |
VanessaE |
however, the slow animation happens without it, so that's not related. |
| 18:29 |
us_0gb |
OH! I know why my server isn't on the list. It's my recent DNS change. I forgot about the server when I made it. |
| 18:29 |
VanessaE |
I wonder if that camp_soldier.x is related. |
| 18:29 |
VanessaE |
camo* |
| 18:30 |
Jordach |
it's just a gay soldier |
| 18:30 |
Jordach |
move along |
| 18:37 |
thefamilygrog66 |
my server is now running git, so I don't drown while climbing ladders anymore. o_O |
| 18:38 |
thefamilygrog66 |
or climbing beanstalks, or standing in doorways, etc. |
| 18:38 |
VanessaE |
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4274715858916&set=vb.1016788026&type=2&theater |
| 18:38 |
cy1 |
haha that was a fun bug thefamilygrog66 |
| 18:39 |
VanessaE |
oh no, please tell me they don't really walk among us! I thought this ^^^^ was always just an urban legend. |
| 18:39 |
thefamilygrog66 |
so weird |
| 18:39 |
us_0gb |
What cased that? Why would drowning be defined for those nodes? |
| 18:40 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, can you in a nutshell that for me |
| 18:40 |
us_0gb |
VanessaE, who are "they"? (I can't play the video.) |
| 18:40 |
cy1 |
us_0gb: clearly some vengeful soul who thought they could enable minecraft griefing via sand smothering. |
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| 18:40 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: woman calls radio station complaining that deer are crossing the highways at "Deer Crossing" signs...as if the signs are attracting them to cross *there* |
| 18:40 |
VanessaE |
this is a recording of that call |
| 18:40 |
Jordach |
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL |
| 18:41 |
Jordach |
'murican stupidity at it's best |
| 18:43 |
thexyz |
ShadowNinja: http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Xyz/test |
| 18:44 |
thefamilygrog66 |
hilarious call. "they should move the signs somewhere where there's less traffic activity" |
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| 18:48 |
thefamilygrog66 |
hah, a fan video of one of my songs I recorded 23 years ago has nearly 300,000 views. crazy kids with their youtubes and tumblrs... |
| 18:48 |
thexyz |
what's the song? |
| 18:48 |
thexyz |
link pls |
| 18:48 |
cy1 |
'k |
| 18:48 |
thefamilygrog66 |
sure, one sec |
| 18:49 |
thefamilygrog66 |
http://youtu.be/JPlpsuEGj90 |
| 18:49 |
thefamilygrog66 |
'60s punk type stuff |
| 18:49 |
VanessaE |
>thefamily* >punk |
| 18:49 |
VanessaE |
non-sequitur! |
| 18:49 |
VanessaE |
error! error! |
| 18:49 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I recorded it in my bedroom on a cassette 4-track (and added the drums in the attic) |
| 18:50 |
thefamilygrog66 |
what do you mean by non-sequitur? |
| 18:50 |
VanessaE |
non-sequitur, "does not follow" |
| 18:51 |
thefamilygrog66 |
what, punk following family? |
| 18:51 |
VanessaE |
punk rocker != family man :) |
| 18:51 |
thefamilygrog66 |
nice generalization, V! |
| 18:51 |
VanessaE |
I was kidding :) |
| 18:51 |
thefamilygrog66 |
haha |
| 18:51 |
thefamilygrog66 |
damn liberals |
| 18:51 |
thefamilygrog66 |
:) |
| 18:51 |
Jordach |
zing |
| 18:51 |
VanessaE |
damn right |
| 18:52 |
VanessaE |
bleeding heart and proud of it. |
| 18:52 |
cy1 |
VanessaE: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/207 when that gets pulled the thing should work. |
| 18:52 |
thefamilygrog66 |
well, liberal in the US is still right of centre up here ;) |
| 18:52 |
cy1 |
weild3d I mean |
| 18:52 |
* Jordach |
tried to open the 3DS screen: was wrong way round to lift lid |
| 18:52 |
cy1 |
wield |
| 18:53 |
VanessaE |
thefamilygrog66: oh trust me, one can't get any further left-of-center than me :) |
| 18:53 |
thefamilygrog66 |
haha |
| 18:53 |
thefamilygrog66 |
thinking of getting a 2DS |
| 18:54 |
Jordach |
NUUUU |
| 18:54 |
Jordach |
> 2DS |
| 18:54 |
Jordach |
> You can disable the 3D in the system settings |
| 18:54 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Simonster was so heartbroken when flipnote hamachi (sp?) shutdown on his DSi |
| 18:55 |
Jordach |
11.5GB |
| 18:55 |
Jordach |
use a fucking decimal |
| 18:55 |
VanessaE |
Im a bleeding-heart, socialist, queer-loving Jew bitch :) |
| 18:55 |
VanessaE |
from Kansas yet. |
| 18:55 |
Jordach |
if it was Ohio i'd have died |
| 18:55 |
us_0gb |
Jordach, some contries use commas instead. |
| 18:55 |
cy1 |
zat: too |
| 18:55 |
thefamilygrog66 |
some mod makers use 64px textures too, but don't mention that |
| 18:56 |
thefamilygrog66 |
bahaha |
| 18:56 |
cy1 |
wut |
| 18:56 |
* Jordach |
starts growling |
| 18:56 |
cy1 |
hamachi VPN works on the... Nintendo DS?? |
| 18:56 |
Jordach |
GO FUCK 64PX |
| 18:56 |
thefamilygrog66 |
no, not hamachi, something similar |
| 18:56 |
Jordach |
thefamilygrog66, flipnote studio |
| 18:56 |
Jordach |
my girlfriends DSi still has that and it works |
| 18:57 |
thefamilygrog66 |
yeah, but there's an online flipnote sharing dealio that's shutdown |
| 18:57 |
cy1 |
Jordach: it's over 9.000. :p |
| 18:57 |
thefamilygrog66 |
flipnote hatena, that's it |
| 18:57 |
thefamilygrog66 |
haha, hamachi |
| 18:57 |
Jordach |
oh for fuck sakes nintendo |
| 18:58 |
Jordach |
Buying something in a game: Take my money! |
| 18:58 |
Jordach |
i wonder where they got that idea |
| 18:58 |
thefamilygrog66 |
they announced that it would be replaced with a 3D hatena (for 3DS only), but that only works in Japan apparently |
| 18:58 |
* Jordach |
sits there with a 3DS whisling |
| 18:58 |
Jordach |
fun fact: the 3d effect doesn't harm younger children |
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| 18:59 |
thefamilygrog66 |
that's bs, Jordach |
| 18:59 |
Jordach |
(if you need to try it; make them stand ~12 inches away froma crt for an hour) |
| 18:59 |
Jordach |
their eyes will mess up but restore themselves |
| 18:59 |
Jordach |
that;s why i can look at any monitor for indefinite periods |
| 18:59 |
thefamilygrog66 |
it gives me a bloody headache |
| 18:59 |
thefamilygrog66 |
the 3D, that is |
| 19:00 |
thefamilygrog66 |
also the 2DS is only $130CDN |
| 19:00 |
Jordach |
just don't slide the slider up (that's what i do, but the 3d effect drains the battery) |
| 19:00 |
thefamilygrog66 |
and no hinges |
| 19:00 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I have a PSP Go anyway |
| 19:00 |
NekoGloop |
Jordach, friend codeses? :D |
| 19:00 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop, sure |
| 19:00 |
Jordach |
pm me |
| 19:00 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Simonster has the DSi |
| 19:00 |
Jordach |
thefamilygrog66, http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18yg0l9m0l3tdpng/original.png |
| 19:01 |
thefamilygrog66 |
nice |
| 19:01 |
* thefamilygrog66 |
kinda misses chopping wood |
| 19:01 |
Jordach |
or even http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18yg2jyvqe0g7jpg/original.jpg |
| 19:01 |
thefamilygrog66 |
but not in my pyjamas in the middle of February |
| 19:02 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Cool that it's actually only one screen |
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| 19:13 |
zsoltisawesome |
YAY |
| 19:13 |
Jordach |
wut |
| 19:13 |
zsoltisawesome |
20 more minutes till i finially get CDOS |
| 19:14 |
Jordach |
1 mins until i get what i wanted |
| 19:14 |
Jordach |
54 seconds cmon |
| 19:14 |
kaeza |
^ pr0n |
| 19:14 |
zsoltisawesome |
lol |
| 19:15 |
stormchaser3000 |
hey zso |
| 19:15 |
zsoltisawesome |
ya? |
| 19:15 |
stormchaser3000 |
on minetest-classic |
| 19:15 |
stormchaser3000 |
go to menche.us port 30000 |
| 19:15 |
zsoltisawesome |
ok |
| 19:15 |
zsoltisawesome |
i'll try |
| 19:18 |
Jordach |
kaeza, i've been waiting for an iso to finish |
| 19:18 |
Jordach |
i happen to use virtualbox |
| 19:22 |
Jordach |
might try arch in it |
| 19:25 |
ShadowNinja |
thexyz: ? |
| 19:26 |
thexyz |
lua thingy |
| 19:27 |
thexyz |
ShadowNinja: didn't you ask for this? |
| 19:27 |
thexyz |
http://wiki.minetest.net/Module:Test |
| 19:27 |
ShadowNinja |
thexyz: Ah, yes. |
| 19:28 |
Jordach |
if i happen to like arch i might use it |
| 19:29 |
thexyz |
aren't you happy? :( |
| 19:29 |
zsoltisawesome |
hey guys! |
| 19:30 |
zsoltisawesome |
http://susestudio.com/a/L3XWbL/compact-disc-operating-system |
| 19:30 |
Calinou |
harsh |
| 19:31 |
Jordach |
lol suse |
| 19:31 |
Jordach |
more like sues |
| 19:31 |
zsoltisawesome |
??? |
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us_0gb |
zsoltisawesome, Jordach means the good doctor. |
| 19:35 |
zsoltisawesome |
still lost |
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us_0gb |
Doctor Sues. |
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| 19:36 |
ShadowNinja |
thexyz: Yes, thanks. :-) I am rewriting some templates now. |
| 19:36 |
zsoltisawesome |
lol |
| 19:37 |
zsoltisawesome |
OMG 20 seconds |
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zsoltisawesome |
5 |
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zsoltisawesome |
4 |
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zsoltisawesome |
3 |
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zsoltisawesome |
2 |
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zsoltisawesome |
1 |
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Calinou |
this isn't twitter by the way :P |
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zsoltisawesome |
YAY |
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Calinou |
lol |
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Menche |
yay! |
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thomasfuston |
lol |
| 19:37 |
Calinou |
ShadowBot doesn't like happy people |
| 19:37 |
* Menche |
was waiting for that |
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zsoltisawesome |
oy |
| 19:37 |
Menche |
ShadowBot doesn't like you. |
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thomasfuston |
only ShadowBot? o.O |
| 19:38 |
zsoltisawesome |
i wanna Bill the Gates |
| 19:38 |
zsoltisawesome |
XD |
| 19:40 |
zsoltisawesome |
NO! |
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pets NekoGloop |
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* NekoGloop |
purrs |
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* zsoltisawesome |
rolls his eyes |
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* Calinou |
pets Rainbow Dash with zsoltisawesome |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: proller github.com commited to minetest/minetest: Masterserver totals fix 382357d61c 2013-10-18T12:57:22-07:00 http://git.io/8cq-aw |
| 19:58 |
zsoltisawesome |
what? |
| 19:58 |
zsoltisawesome |
oh lol |
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* zsoltisawesome |
gets very offended |
| 20:00 |
Jordach_ |
Findus Horse Lasange: RAINBOW DASH FLAVOUR |
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* Jordach_ |
runs |
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* zsoltisawesome |
starts to watch a video |
| 20:01 |
pitriss |
Jordach_: omnomnom |
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* zsoltisawesome |
punches Jordach_ |
| 20:01 |
Jordach_ |
!op |
| 20:02 |
Jordach_ |
i can /kick your ass |
| 20:02 |
zsoltisawesome |
lol |
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becomes depressed |
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* zsoltisawesome |
dies of hunger |
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* pitriss |
thinks thar zsoltisawesome should stop spamming here.. |
| 20:04 |
* zsoltisawesome |
thinks that this channel never says much |
| 20:04 |
* zsoltisawesome |
wanted to change that |
| 20:05 |
zsoltisawesome |
lollip!op |
| 20:05 |
zsoltisawesome |
LOL |
| 20:06 |
ShadowNinja |
zsoltisawesome: That's enough. |
| 20:06 |
zsoltisawesome |
ok |
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zsoltisawesome |
Hi evergreen! |
| 20:07 |
Jordach_ |
hello Evergreen |
| 20:07 |
Evergreen |
Hello |
| 20:07 |
ShadowNinja |
thexyz: Any idea why this throws a Script error wnen trying to invoke it (Only tested the preview) http://wiki.minetest.net/Module:Hearts |
| 20:08 |
ShadowNinja |
thexyz: Calling it from the console (=p.hearts(2.5)) works. |
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Jordach_ |
today's best post: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=114778#p114778 |
| 20:15 |
Calinou |
hahaha |
| 20:16 |
Jordach_ |
fun fact: me and paramat live roughly ~16 miles away from each other |
| 20:16 |
Evergreen |
Cool\ |
| 20:17 |
Jordach_ |
he's nearer to the coast than me though |
| 20:17 |
Jordach_ |
im inland |
| 20:19 |
ShadowNinja |
thexyz: Is it possible to grant specific rights to users without changing their group on the wiki? |
| 20:19 |
Jordach_ |
ShadowNinja, mediawiki isnt minetest |
| 20:20 |
zsoltisawesome |
Jordach_: lets not start an argument |
| 20:20 |
Jordach_ |
o rly |
| 20:21 |
Jordach_ |
sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html |
| 20:21 |
Jordach_ |
http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html |
| 20:21 |
Jordach_ |
^ better |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
noone near me plays Minetest |
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* Jordach_ |
pets Calinou |
| 20:23 |
Calinou |
don't know where Zeg9 lives :p |
| 20:23 |
Calinou |
and cisoun is in switzerland |
| 20:23 |
Jordach |
Calinou, afaik, you're near northern france right |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
i might be the closest minetest player to Calinou |
| 20:24 |
Calinou |
yep, north east |
| 20:24 |
ShadowNinja |
You beat Peacock? |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
Jordach: no, cisoun is probably closer, or maybe Zeg9 |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
or redcrab |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
(if he ever comes back :p) |
| 20:25 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: What floodbot did you use? |
| 20:25 |
ShadowNinja |
;-) |
| 20:26 |
ShadowNinja |
You're actually ahead of Vanessa in some hours. |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, multiple lines because my typing sucks |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
trust me |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
how do i even beat VanessaE? honest. |
| 20:27 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: I cann't typ tday |
| 20:27 |
Evolykane |
Bye |
| 20:28 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 20:28 |
Jordach |
that's like getting into an eating contest with VanessaE |
| 20:28 |
Jordach |
im going to lose |
| 20:28 |
ShadowNinja |
*can't type today |
| 20:28 |
* VanessaE |
frowns :( |
| 20:28 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, i can bearly fucking eat |
| 20:28 |
Jordach |
(i dont have a large stomach) |
| 20:28 |
Jordach |
Calinou, http://i.imgur.com/jQRRfZl.jpg |
| 20:29 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Europe is so tiny. |
| 20:29 |
zsoltisawesome |
yes |
| 20:29 |
ShadowNinja |
How.....? Jordach: 1341 actions! |
| 20:29 |
* Jordach |
is awesome |
| 20:29 |
Jordach |
please accept that |
| 20:29 |
Jordach |
1342 |
| 20:29 |
thefamilygrog66 |
It take three days just to drive across Ontario... |
| 20:30 |
ShadowNinja |
Hah. |
| 20:30 |
VanessaE |
would someone please audit my game and help me find wtf is killing everyone's performance? |
| 20:30 |
VanessaE |
I'm ready to give up on it. |
| 20:30 |
ShadowNinja |
I thought ShadowBot would start appearing in those kick stats by now... |
| 20:30 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, we redacted ShadowBot on purpose |
| 20:30 |
thefamilygrog66 |
how does one audit, V? |
| 20:31 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: :-( |
| 20:31 |
VanessaE |
thefamilygrog66: go through the various mods' code, looking for problems |
| 20:31 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: Does technic_game show those issues? |
| 20:31 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, too much bloat. try minetest-classic |
| 20:31 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/VanessaE_Game.tar.bz2 |
| 20:31 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: minetest-nostalgia is fast as hell (I have a third server I just opened) |
| 20:31 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: I have not tried it, but see there ^^ |
| 20:32 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, no where as fast as minetest-classic 0.3.3 |
| 20:32 |
ShadowNinja |
^ How to use up all of your bandwidth for the next ten minutes. |
| 20:32 |
Calinou |
http://i.imgur.com/8VKRIIq.jpg |
| 20:32 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: Do you skip *.git* when making the archive? |
| 20:32 |
Calinou |
I'm approximately at the red dot |
| 20:33 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: .tar.xz > .tar.bz2 :p |
| 20:33 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: yes |
| 20:33 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: and "backups", as tar defines them |
| 20:34 |
VanessaE |
want the game with those things included? |
| 20:34 |
ShadowNinja |
.tar.gz.bz2.xz.zip <-- That ought to compress it. ;-) |
| 20:34 |
Calinou |
don't forget .rar to keep trisquel users away |
| 20:34 |
Jordach |
Calinou, how did my arrow point at your dot |
| 20:34 |
Jordach |
that's fucking suspicious |
| 20:35 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: Nah, I'l just git clone if I want it, but I am NOT combing through 30MB of code. |
| 20:35 |
Calinou |
heh |
| 20:35 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: it's ok, I didn't think you'd want to (who would?) |
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thefamilygrog66 |
I'm gonna guess it's moretrees. |
| 20:35 |
VanessaE |
thefamilygrog66: this is a fps problem, not mapgen lag |
| 20:36 |
Calinou |
IIRC it's slow even with fancy trees disabled |
| 20:36 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: rm mods until you find the misbehaving one. (That's how I found that mesecons liked eating 100% CPU) |
| 20:36 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Oh, I've noticed major fps issues with those angled roof corners. Does that make sense? |
| 20:36 |
fairiestoy |
Shadow, what exactly triggers this impact? |
| 20:36 |
VanessaE |
it's slow even if you're standing on top of a tall tree and nothing else below you is visible besides the rest of the tre |
| 20:37 |
VanessaE |
+e |
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ShadowNinja |
fairiestoy: IDK, I have re-added most of mesecons to my server and it hasn't happened again recently. |
| 20:37 |
fairiestoy |
ShadowNinja: Alright, thanks though |
| 20:41 |
thefamilygrog66 |
VanessaE, I can have killer fps, but as soon as I look at the roof of my spawn, it drops to like 5 fps: http://i.imgur.com/uurG91F.png |
| 20:42 |
VanessaE |
thefamilygrog66: I updated those ages ago to tone down the detail |
| 20:42 |
VanessaE |
they're only 16 steps now instead of like 256 |
| 20:43 |
zsoltisawesome |
http://stephaneginier.com/sculptgl/ |
| 20:43 |
thefamilygrog66 |
you mean I gotta download a new version of homedecor? |
| 20:43 |
zsoltisawesome |
yes |
| 20:47 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: LOL, 256? I would like to see what you could do with 1024 or so. |
| 20:47 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: beyond 256, rendering errors |
| 20:47 |
VanessaE |
thefamilygrog66: homedecor has been updated a lot lately. |
| 20:48 |
VanessaE |
I recommend you git pull |
| 20:49 |
VanessaE |
kaeza did some nice work on the signs |
| 20:49 |
VanessaE |
sharper fonts, more text per sign - 10000% easier to read |
| 20:54 |
cisoun |
Calinou: what's your city ? |
| 20:54 |
cisoun |
(just to know the distance from me) |
| 20:56 |
Calinou |
near troyes |
| 20:56 |
Calinou |
hi cisoun btw :) long time no see |
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cisoun |
o/ |
| 20:58 |
cisoun |
There are about 290 km between us. |
| 20:58 |
cisoun |
Close enough ? |
| 20:58 |
cisoun |
Yeah I'm not really into minetest these days. Tons of work and my graphic driver is shitty since Linux 3.9... |
| 20:59 |
cisoun |
(Nouveau was really good but doesn't work for me since Linux 3.9 and Minetest crashes with Nvidia.) |
| 20:59 |
VanessaE |
nice to see you in here again, cisoun |
| 20:59 |
cisoun |
Hey ! |
| 21:08 |
zsoltisawesome |
this is a really dull test, i keep answering "yes, yes, yes, yes" and so on |
| 21:10 |
* zsoltisawesome |
thinks about making a clickbot |
| 21:11 |
Calinou |
cisoun: that's weird (the driver) |
| 21:11 |
Calinou |
I guess I'll upgrade (or reinstall) 13.10 soonish... |
| 21:11 |
Calinou |
waiting a few days for less loaded servers + obvious bugfix |
| 21:11 |
Calinou |
clickbot? |
| 21:11 |
Calinou |
don't reinvent the wheel, there is a large choice of software that clicks for you :) |
| 21:12 |
thefamilygrog66 |
you need one of these, zsoltisawesome: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_bird |
| 21:12 |
zsoltisawesome |
why? |
| 21:13 |
zsoltisawesome |
oh lol |
| 21:13 |
zsoltisawesome |
to click the mouse |
| 21:13 |
kaeza |
"xdotool -r 100000 -d 10 click 1" and watch your CPU melt :3 |
| 21:13 |
Calinou |
heh, I always used --repeat and --dleay |
| 21:13 |
zsoltisawesome |
sadly Windows isn't Unix-based |
| 21:15 |
thefamilygrog66 |
This is the only clip I could find, zsoltisawesome: http://youtu.be/8OkKhkJiJyo |
| 21:16 |
zsoltisawesome |
lol |
| 21:16 |
zsoltisawesome |
funny |
| 21:26 |
zsoltisawesome |
i found something better: https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=d02772c5ef189116&id=D02772C5EF189116!140 |
| 21:28 |
thefamilygrog66 |
haha, you can tell my six-year-old picked out the artwork for my server: http://i.imgur.com/ArL8Vg3.png |
| 21:28 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 21:29 |
VanessaE |
ok angry birds, yoshi, and...what? |
| 21:29 |
zsoltisawesome |
peashooter (plants vs zombies) |
| 21:29 |
VanessaE |
ah |
| 21:29 |
VanessaE |
never heard of it |
| 21:29 |
thefamilygrog66 |
^^^ |
| 21:29 |
thefamilygrog66 |
you've never heard of plants vs zombies?! |
| 21:29 |
zsoltisawesome |
its not much to hear of |
| 21:30 |
* thefamilygrog66 |
must take a nap now |
| 21:31 |
* zsoltisawesome |
must pour a bucket of ice water over thefamilygrog66's head |
| 21:33 |
* zsoltisawesome |
doesn't take naps, he thinks they are for infants and elderly people |
| 21:33 |
zsoltisawesome |
lol |
| 21:35 |
zsoltisawesome |
has anyone else tried Madbox Linux? |
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zsoltisawesome |
:| |
| 21:37 |
zsoltisawesome |
what are you doing here? |
| 21:37 |
rainbow_dash_ |
I'm bored |
| 21:40 |
VanessaE |
so play a game? |
| 21:40 |
rainbow_dash_ |
Like what? |
| 21:40 |
zsoltisawesome |
like the game that this channel is about... |
| 21:40 |
Menche |
there's this game called Minetest |
| 21:41 |
rainbow_dash_ |
Oh really, your kidding? |
| 21:41 |
Menche |
it seems that many on this channel have heard about it |
| 21:41 |
rainbow_dash_ |
Really? |
| 21:41 |
zsoltisawesome |
dude |
| 21:41 |
VanessaE |
Dan, at the next restart of nostalgia, your forum post will be linked in to the aerver list |
| 21:41 |
zsoltisawesome |
stop with the harsh sarcasm |
| 21:41 |
VanessaE |
server* |
| 21:41 |
rainbow_dash_ |
... |
| 21:42 |
zsoltisawesome |
do you want me to take your phone? |
| 21:42 |
rainbow_dash_ |
You can't do that! |
| 21:43 |
zsoltisawesome |
umm, i can walk into your room and grab it from you |
| 21:43 |
rainbow_dash_ |
I won't let you! |
| 21:44 |
zsoltisawesome |
just, just leave |
| 21:44 |
rainbow_dash_ |
FINE!!! |
| 21:45 |
zsoltisawesome |
sorry about that |
| 21:46 |
Evergreen |
Who was that? lol |
| 21:48 |
zsoltisawesome |
my brother |
| 21:48 |
zsoltisawesome |
he wont let me irc in peace |
| 21:59 |
zsoltisawesome |
YAY |
| 21:59 |
zsoltisawesome |
finally |
| 22:00 |
* zsoltisawesome |
slaps ChanServ around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:00 |
* zsoltisawesome |
slaps MinetestBot around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:00 |
* zsoltisawesome |
slaps ShadowBot around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:00 |
* Menche |
thinks you should say more messages in quick succession |
| 22:01 |
Menche |
(if you want to annoy ShadowBot |
| 22:01 |
zsoltisawesome |
i was trying to aviod getting kicked agian |
| 22:01 |
Menche |
) |
| 22:01 |
zsoltisawesome |
!seen zsoltisawesome |
| 22:01 |
MinetestBot |
zsoltisawesome: zsoltisawesome was last seen at 2013-10-18 22:01:15 UTC on #minetest |
| 22:01 |
zsoltisawesome |
!seen harnetadmin |
| 22:01 |
MinetestBot |
zsoltisawesome: Sorry, I haven't seen harnetadmin around. |
| 22:02 |
zsoltisawesome |
!seen harpnetadmin |
| 22:02 |
MinetestBot |
zsoltisawesome: harpnetadmin was last seen at 2013-10-16 21:01:18 UTC on #minetest |
| 22:05 |
fairiestoy |
Is that counting as harrassment? |
| 22:05 |
VanessaE |
no, just flooding. |
| 22:05 |
fairiestoy |
hell, worth to ask |
| 22:06 |
zsoltisawesome |
im bored |
| 22:07 |
fairiestoy |
Play minetest |
| 22:10 |
kaeza |
why the +q ? |
| 22:10 |
kaeza |
who flooded this time? :P |
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Dan_D |
Help, with my mt_nostalgia game mese picks can't be crafted, even though the recipe is right |
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ShadowNinja |
Dan_D: Code. |
| 22:24 |
Dan_D |
Look on Github |
| 22:27 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/DanDuncombe/mt_nostalgia |
| 22:27 |
VanessaE |
^^^^ dan's code. |
| 22:30 |
VanessaE |
I've browsed through it and can't see the issue |
| 22:31 |
VanessaE |
wait, wtf. |
| 22:31 |
VanessaE |
my local copy doesn't match |
| 22:31 |
VanessaE |
dan this might me my fauly. |
| 22:31 |
Dan_D |
Aha. |
| 22:31 |
VanessaE |
fault*( |
| 22:31 |
Dan_D |
Ok |
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* Menche |
curses 'singleplayer's arbitrarily limited privs |
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| 23:30 |
Peacock |
how do i lsystem this tree? (the weird Y shaped one) http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nQaKjURiO_A/TA2OSb1pjSI/AAAAAAAAAKc/uhR3RjQVprw/s1600/earth_carboniferous_riverbank_600.jpg |
| 23:31 |
VanessaE |
someting like axiom="FFFFFFFFFFA", rule_a="[&&FFFA][^^FFFA]" |
| 23:31 |
VanessaE |
iterations = 3, angle = 20 |
| 23:31 |
Peacock |
thanks :-) |
| 23:31 |
VanessaE |
that should get you close anyway |
| 23:32 |
Peacock |
i modified some of your moretree models to make carboniferous type trees :D |
| 23:32 |
VanessaE |
cool |
| 23:32 |
Peacock |
which is basically long trunks, fewer leaves lol |
| 23:32 |
VanessaE |
plan on contributing them back to moretrees? :) |
| 23:32 |
Peacock |
well they'd be out of place for the time period? |
| 23:32 |
Peacock |
i can take pics and you decide yourself |
| 23:32 |
VanessaE |
well |
| 23:33 |
VanessaE |
in minetest almost anything goes. Hell, we have mese trees in nyancat heaven, and there was that iron trees mod way back when.... |
| 23:33 |
VanessaE |
and your alien and bouleau trees if I remember eight |
| 23:33 |
VanessaE |
eight* |
| 23:33 |
VanessaE |
RIGHT***** |
| 23:33 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 23:34 |
Peacock |
bouleau yeah i didn't know the english word at the time (birch) lol |
| 23:34 |
VanessaE |
I wondered wtf a bouleau tree was :D |
| 23:34 |
Peacock |
bouleau = birch, not one of those obvious translations lol |
| 23:34 |
VanessaE |
who was it who had that cherryblossom tree? |
| 23:35 |
Peacock |
cherryblossom...hm, wasn't that sapier? |
| 23:35 |
VanessaE |
idk |
| 23:35 |
Peacock |
i remember making a white bark tree with pink leaves, forget the name tho |
| 23:35 |
Peacock |
then i made those slim trees you often see in new subdivisions |
| 23:35 |
VanessaE |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1638 |
| 23:36 |
VanessaE |
it was you :P |
| 23:36 |
Peacock |
lol both the image and file host are dead lol |
| 23:36 |
VanessaE |
yup |
| 23:36 |
Peacock |
i can't remember everything i code :P |
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| 23:36 |
Peacock |
i think the #1 complaint about madblocks was that it changed too much in the span of a week XD |
| 23:36 |
VanessaE |
I still have the HDX textures for all of those mods except nyancat heaven |
| 23:37 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 23:37 |
VanessaE |
you went from OCD to ADHD :) |
| 23:37 |
Peacock |
carboniferous (not all textures finished): http://s22.postimg.org/rjxs4chjl/screenshot_3385891282.png |
| 23:37 |
Inocudom |
Why are the forums so quiet lately? What happened? |
| 23:37 |
Peacock |
thats one of the tree model edits |
| 23:37 |
VanessaE |
that's not bad at all |
| 23:37 |
VanessaE |
reduce the angle param |
| 23:37 |
VanessaE |
make the branches longer |
| 23:37 |
Peacock |
i dont know what to name the trees, i can't find any documentation about tree names for the era |
| 23:38 |
VanessaE |
[__FFFA] ---> [__FFFFFFFFA] |
| 23:38 |
Peacock |
shit which tree is that? |
| 23:38 |
VanessaE |
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Meyers_b15_s0272b.jpg |
| 23:38 |
VanessaE |
look at the bottom of the image |
| 23:38 |
Peacock |
jesus lol |
| 23:38 |
Peacock |
i saw that image too |
| 23:38 |
Peacock |
didn't spot the text |
| 23:39 |
VanessaE |
oh sorry, that was a suggestion to change your rule_a setting,. add more F's |
| 23:39 |
VanessaE |
and make the angle a little smaller |
| 23:39 |
Peacock |
hmm yeah but what tree (name) is it? |
| 23:39 |
VanessaE |
I'd guess it's number 2 |
| 23:39 |
VanessaE |
Schuppenbaum (Lepidodendron) |
| 23:40 |
Peacock |
no i mean the moretree model im supposed to change :P i haven't changed the names yet |
| 23:40 |
VanessaE |
oh |
| 23:40 |
Peacock |
were those the apple trees? |
| 23:40 |
VanessaE |
well whatever model produced http://s22.postimg.org/rjxs4chjl/screenshot_3385891282.png this image |
| 23:40 |
Peacock |
lemme go ingame and find out lol |
| 23:40 |
VanessaE |
I assumed ^^^ that iage was an attempt to use the tree model basis I gave you |
| 23:41 |
Peacock |
yup its the apple tree i modified for that one |
| 23:41 |
Peacock |
more F's? |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
mmhmm |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
well wait |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
nevermind |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
forget I said that |
| 23:42 |
Peacock |
okie dokie lol |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
llet's see what your other one looks like |
| 23:43 |
Peacock |
hm, either use the oak or pine model/tree for that |
| 23:43 |
Peacock |
pine |
| 23:43 |
VanessaE |
well start with any model you want but none of them are gonna have axioms/rules that'll be anywhere close to the that cgi image you showed |
| 23:44 |
VanessaE |
well maybe jungle trees might |
| 23:44 |
VanessaE |
if you don't mind mentally parsing the code to build a suitable model to start from :P |
| 23:45 |
VanessaE |
Inocudom: about the forums, I don't know why they seem quiet |
| 23:45 |
Peacock |
if i understood lsystem at all it wouldn't be any trouble lol |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
well I meant parsing the Lua code that builds the models |
| 23:46 |
Inocudom |
With proller's development branch around, you think people might be excited again. Things weren't quite this quiet last year. |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
(I had to build them in Lua because I needed more randomness than could be fit into one static def) |
| 23:47 |
VanessaE |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lepidodendrales |
| 23:47 |
VanessaE |
found my way to a readable article |
| 23:48 |
VanessaE |
um...definitely out-of-time for moretrees :D |
| 23:48 |
VanessaE |
maybe you can fork it and make it into prehistoric_trees :D |
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| 23:48 |
Peacock |
yeah well i got the idea from the carbinoferous mod from MC |
| 23:48 |
VanessaE |
*nod* |
| 23:49 |
Peacock |
after playing mt- classic i got the idea to create a new game, sortof, reset or back to basics, but in a different setting/environment |
| 23:49 |
Peacock |
http://s22.postimg.org/7pping6hd/screenshot_3455543588.png |
| 23:50 |
VanessaE |
nice |
| 23:50 |
kahrl |
Inocudom: keep in mind very few people actually go and compile and use branches other than master |
| 23:51 |
Peacock |
yeah, all i need to do tho is switch the direction of the 2 branches upwards, and strip the middle of leaves |
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| 23:53 |
Peacock |
inocudom: i also noticed things getting quiet here and on the forums, though not too many people talk about MC either, so it may just be the voxel genre in general |
| 23:53 |
VanessaE |
or summer winding fdown |
| 23:53 |
VanessaE |
down* |
| 23:53 |
VanessaE |
everyone goes back to school, etc. |
| 23:53 |
VanessaE |
well not summer, fall now |
| 23:53 |
VanessaE |
you get the point |
| 23:53 |
VanessaE |
everyone's busy with school or whatever else |
| 23:54 |
Peacock |
tell me about it, things start getting gray outside and i can't sleep at night anymore, lol hit the sack at 9am this morning |
| 23:55 |
Peacock |
wife woke me at 4pm with coffee thinking i'd been sleeping for 12 hours lol |
| 23:56 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 23:58 |
Peacock |
sucks though, in fall and winter i need nightshift work, spring and summer i usually find another daytime job lol |
| 23:58 |
Peacock |
thats how i got to 30 jobs over 15 years lol |
