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Exio |
VanessaE: hmm |
| 01:03 |
VanessaE |
hm? |
| 01:03 |
Exio |
[20:47:16] <VanessaE> ok I've officially decided: irrlicht 1.8 sucks. |
| 01:03 |
Exio |
why? :P |
| 01:03 |
VanessaE |
because it's slower and it makes minetest water glitchy. |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
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beez |
anyone remember which mod hold the face player lines, i need to borrow the face player but i forget how its phrased in this... |
| 01:50 |
kaeza |
face? |
| 01:50 |
VanessaE |
face player lines? |
| 01:51 |
VanessaE |
maybe he means the player model? |
| 01:51 |
kaeza |
may be |
| 01:51 |
OldCoder |
Hi. I'm getting massive crashes in my worlds related to 4seasons and riventest |
| 01:51 |
OldCoder |
Which I don't recall hearing of |
| 01:52 |
OldCoder |
I have not done updates... Does anybody recognize these names? |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
haven't used those mods, but 4seasons is generally considered outdated I'd think. |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
riventest, no idea. |
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OldCoder |
Started with migration... some sort of CPU incompatibility |
| 01:52 |
OldCoder |
odd |
| 02:01 |
sokomine |
there ought to be no crashes due to 4seasons, but it's not used much anymore. iirc it was lag that led to its removal on the kingarthur server. it was a nice mod |
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beez |
oh shit. i mean like, how when you place a furnace it looks at you on initial place. but i remember you could have them aim up also |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
that's facedir. |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
and it's part of the API, many mods can do that. |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
you probably wanna use the screwdriver |
| 02:08 |
beez |
i was wondering where to find that line, thanks |
| 02:08 |
beez |
facedir = true? |
| 02:09 |
beez |
or more complex? |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
more complex |
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VanessaE |
paramtype2 = "facedir", then you set param2 = somevalue when you add a node. |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
e.g. minetest.add_node(pos, {name="default:furnace", param2 = 3}) |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
there's some basic prediction for facedir already, so stuff will usually at least turn to face you on placement anyway |
| 02:10 |
beez |
thanks |
| 02:11 |
beez |
but i am remaking my personal mod that allows logs to be placed sideways |
| 02:11 |
beez |
like minecraft |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 02:11 |
beez |
except i had the idea before notch |
| 02:11 |
beez |
or was it jeb? |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
for that (which btw moreblocks has already), you'd use param2 = ....um... either 0 or 5 I think. |
| 02:11 |
Exio |
jeb probably |
| 02:11 |
beez |
i think it was 0 |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
dunno, but calinou beat you to it already :) |
| 02:12 |
beez |
well i am trying to make my self a full mod for my own use. stuff like this is practice |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
no prob |
| 02:12 |
Exio |
i understand |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
that's a good start anyway |
| 02:12 |
Exio |
trying to do something just for learning :P |
| 02:12 |
* Exio |
is using minetest for learning C++ |
| 02:12 |
kaeza |
most of the (basic) stuff from MC has already been copied to MT |
| 02:12 |
beez |
more remembering |
| 02:13 |
Exio |
i'm used to C |
| 02:13 |
kaeza |
s/copied/"ported"/ |
| 02:13 |
beez |
i worked on this stuff months ago |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: and some stuff in MT got stolen into MC :) |
| 02:13 |
beez |
but then left |
| 02:13 |
Exio |
VanessaE: nah |
| 02:13 |
Exio |
it is called, doing the right way ;P |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 02:13 |
Exio |
and for now, the "mod api" of minetest |
| 02:13 |
Exio |
is amazinly amazing |
| 02:14 |
beez |
:P |
| 02:17 |
beez |
the dam thing is locked... idk what i did wrong... |
| 02:19 |
beez |
hmmm |
| 02:20 |
Exio |
don't add more m(s) ;P |
| 02:20 |
beez |
paramtype2 = "facedir", seems to make it face me but the cut on the log ALWAYS faces up/down |
| 02:21 |
VanessaE |
beez, to make it horizontal you'll have to set the facedir manually via the on_place function |
| 02:21 |
beez |
wish i had my code from before |
| 02:21 |
VanessaE |
or you'll have to define a log that's already rotated (that can be done by referencing the default tree textures and using ^[transformR90 where necessary) |
| 02:22 |
beez |
hmm... might just make a sideways log as its own item |
| 02:23 |
VanessaE |
that's the easiest way |
| 02:25 |
beez |
sucks that i cant make a block that has the vert and horizontal ability easy |
| 02:25 |
beez |
i had one, but idk how i did it |
| 02:25 |
beez |
was under 6 lines |
| 02:25 |
VanessaE |
you can, you have to hook into the on_place= handler (or after_place_node will work too) |
| 02:25 |
beez |
hmm |
| 02:26 |
beez |
r90... |
| 02:27 |
beez |
^[transformR90] the way to say it? |
| 02:27 |
VanessaE |
tiles = { ...... , "default_tree.png^[transformR90" , ..... } |
| 02:27 |
VanessaE |
(no closing ] as [ is not an opener) |
| 02:28 |
beez |
and now i have a working sideways log |
| 02:28 |
beez |
thanks 100x |
| 02:28 |
VanessaE |
np. |
| 02:29 |
beez |
now to muck about with other stuff |
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MrEldritch |
Could somebody explain the LGPL to me? I'm running off of insufficient sleep, insufficient food, and illness, and right now I just don't have the neural processing cycles to understand legalese. |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
no idea. |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
except I guess you can link your commercial project to an LGPL library and sell the resultant package as long as follow the usual provisions ofr sharing the LPGL'd source. |
| 02:46 |
MrEldritch |
I'd been thinking of opening MineTest up and looking at how it handles a lot of stuff, but I was afraid ithat any code I would produce would look too similar and that in the (extremely unlikely) event I got something good enough to be commercial that I would end up going the same way as Infiniminer. |
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MrEldritch |
Hello! |
| 02:57 |
kaeza |
hi |
| 02:58 |
MrEldritch |
By the way, I haven't been keeping up with Minetest's development in a while. Does Minetest have a working mob engine that isn't just sprites yet? The level of developer bullshit, modder bullshit, and general drama, bullshit, and crushing disappointment and regret involved in Minecraft is getting to be too much for me, and I was wondering if Minetest was a viable alternative yet. |
| 02:59 |
kaeza |
well... |
| 03:01 |
kaeza |
Mobs were moved to the Lua side long ago |
| 03:01 |
VanessaE |
...and they are usually 3d |
| 03:01 |
VanessaE |
if they use the player model, they are compatible with MC skins. |
| 03:04 |
Kacey |
back |
| 03:04 |
VanessaE |
wb |
| 03:13 |
Kacey |
ty |
| 03:16 |
Kacey |
khonkhortisan, how do i activate your crossing code? |
| 03:17 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: aside from needing textures, is there anything else that patch needs? |
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Vadtec |
Kacey: sorry i missed you last night, got sucked into helping my dad with his new gps... |
| 03:30 |
Vadtec |
you still need help with compiling on windows? |
| 03:30 |
Kacey |
maybe tomorrow. bedtime is soon. |
| 03:30 |
Vadtec |
ok |
| 03:30 |
Vadtec |
ill try to do a simple write up on it |
| 03:31 |
Vadtec |
its a fairly straightforward method |
| 03:31 |
Vadtec |
though sound is a pain in the ass |
| 03:32 |
Kacey |
i have mingw installed. but compiling all the neccesary components for minetest is hard... i wish windows would do a good sudo apt-get |
| 03:35 |
Vadtec |
Kacey: the only hard part is having to DL each of the deps |
| 03:35 |
Vadtec |
and putting them in the right location |
| 03:36 |
Vadtec |
otherwise the commands are pretty much the same |
| 03:39 |
* Menche |
is really annoyed at bones mod |
| 03:40 |
Menche |
players can drop bones in protected areas |
| 03:40 |
Menche |
and fresh bones with items can't be removed |
| 03:42 |
jordan4ibanez |
Lol I asked Richard Stallman to play Xonotic with me, and it's a definate maybe. |
| 03:42 |
Menche |
can bones be disabled from game.conf? |
| 03:44 |
VanessaE |
Menche: I just delete the bones mod. |
| 03:44 |
Menche |
should be a disable option like with fire |
| 03:44 |
VanessaE |
there might be such, but I'm not sure. |
| 03:44 |
Kacey |
i just delete both of them. useless anyway |
| 03:45 |
VanessaE |
nothing in minetest.conf.example about it though |
| 03:45 |
VanessaE |
so I guess nuke it. |
| 03:45 |
Menche |
sometimes i have to grab the game again for some reason, and forget to delete it |
| 03:45 |
Menche |
happened with fire, with disastrous results |
| 03:45 |
VanessaE |
I automated all that with a script |
| 03:46 |
VanessaE |
it copies everything into their proper places, deletes what I don't want, packages up the result into a game, and installs it to my server and to my client ofr single player use. |
| 03:46 |
VanessaE |
for* |
| 03:46 |
Menche |
i install my server with checkinstall but manage the game separately |
| 03:47 |
VanessaE |
ditto |
| 03:47 |
VanessaE |
the actual server code is handled by another script. |
| 03:53 |
khonkhortisan |
Kacey, you'd pull my branch, then either use the creative inventory to get the crossover, or craft two insulated wires together. |
| 03:54 |
khonkhortisan |
VanessaE, It should be considered whether receptors/effectors could benefit from having multi_rules too |
| 03:54 |
Kacey |
i did and it resulted in an unknown item. seems to me that you forgot to define the off state |
| 03:54 |
khonkhortisan |
mesecons_extrawires:crossover_off |
| 03:55 |
khonkhortisan |
I haven't seen it create an unknown item |
| 03:55 |
Kacey |
oops! i cloned the wrong branch |
| 03:56 |
khonkhortisan |
There's a way to pull a branch from a different repo than the main one you're using |
| 03:57 |
Kacey |
not on the windows git |
| 03:57 |
khonkhortisan |
then switch to a different git |
| 03:58 |
Kacey |
naw im keeping windows on this computer |
| 03:58 |
khonkhortisan |
it's not true git |
| 03:58 |
Kacey |
windows 8 isnt that bad |
| 03:58 |
Kacey |
it works for me |
| 03:59 |
khonkhortisan |
If your git client can't do what my git client can do, get a different git client. Keep your os. |
| 03:59 |
Kacey |
i got this client from git directly |
| 03:59 |
Kacey |
straight from github |
| 03:59 |
Menche |
github != git |
| 04:00 |
Menche |
github uses git, they didn't make it |
| 04:00 |
Kacey |
except it is run from libgit2 so... |
| 04:00 |
khonkhortisan |
github has their own git client |
| 04:00 |
Menche |
the *official* git for windows comes with it's own bash shell iirc |
| 04:00 |
khonkhortisan |
bash? |
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khonkhortisan |
I didn't know I could get bash on windows |
| 04:01 |
Menche |
yeah |
| 04:01 |
Kacey |
no. it comes with the lib to make cmd or powershell able to use the git api |
| 04:01 |
Menche |
or through msys from mingw |
| 04:02 |
Menche |
from http://git-scm.com |
| 04:02 |
khonkhortisan |
that's not a valid git command! |
| 04:02 |
Menche |
? |
| 04:02 |
khonkhortisan |
git --local-branching-on-the-cheap |
| 04:03 |
Menche |
i doubt --distributed-is-the-new-centralized is either |
| 04:03 |
Menche |
lol |
| 04:04 |
Menche |
i use msys when i'm in windows |
| 04:04 |
Menche |
bash, most linux tools, it's own software management |
| 04:04 |
khonkhortisan |
its |
| 04:05 |
khonkhortisan |
http://www.its-not-its.info/ |
| 04:05 |
* Menche |
isn't the only one to mix that up |
| 04:06 |
khonkhortisan |
I have someone on another channel that refuses to change |
| 04:06 |
Kacey |
its complicated. every situation has it's own solution |
| 04:06 |
khonkhortisan |
ugh |
| 04:06 |
Kacey |
:P |
| 04:07 |
Menche |
i usually try to use correct grammar, sometimes i forget or just mistype |
| 04:07 |
Menche |
(that comma probably should have been a semicolon) |
| 04:07 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm not as trinke as you denke I am |
| 04:07 |
* Menche |
has always am very well at grammars |
| 04:08 |
Kacey |
i just dont care for apostrophes at all. waste of my time |
| 04:08 |
khonkhortisan |
that's why its in place of it's bugs me less than it's in place of its |
| 04:08 |
khonkhortisan |
couldn't've has two apostrophes |
| 04:08 |
* Menche |
had to read that sentence a few times |
| 04:09 |
VanessaE |
people writing they're/there/their or using apostrophes for plural words is what bugs me. |
| 04:09 |
VanessaE |
makes me wanna sic Bob the Angry Flower on said people :) |
| 04:09 |
Menche |
i don't use apostrophes for pluralization |
| 04:09 |
Menche |
i sometimes mix up contractions and possesives |
| 04:10 |
khonkhortisan |
word's |
| 04:10 |
* Kacey |
always was never oay attentions on classez |
| 04:10 |
Kacey |
pay* |
| 04:11 |
Menche |
and then there's people (not mentioning Likwid's name) who, drop commas, all over, the place |
| 04:11 |
khonkhortisan |
This is just like when someone sings. If they sing horibbly on purpose, you can tell they're trying to and it doesn't bug you. If they sing just barely off without trying too, it's really annoying. |
| 04:11 |
Kacey |
heh |
| 04:12 |
Kacey |
AND I WAS LIKE BABY, BABY, BABY OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH! |
| 04:12 |
Kacey |
sorry adhd |
| 04:12 |
khonkhortisan |
VE, is taht a game? |
| 04:12 |
khonkhortisan |
I taut I taw a putty tat |
| 04:14 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: no, it's actually a comic. |
| 04:14 |
VanessaE |
http://www.angryflower.com/aposter3.jpg |
| 04:15 |
khonkhortisan |
I can't find cats anywhere in there |
| 04:17 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, lol |
| 04:17 |
Menche |
khonkhortisan, that says that possessives are a valid use for apostrophes |
| 04:17 |
khonkhortisan |
I believe its is an exception |
| 04:17 |
VanessaE |
correct. |
| 04:17 |
VanessaE |
its/it's is about the only word I can think of that violates that rule. |
| 04:17 |
Menche |
*sigh* english... |
| 04:18 |
khonkhortisan |
An apostrophe of one's own. |
| 04:19 |
Menche |
there's this gas station near me that uses quotation marks for emphasis |
| 04:19 |
Menche |
drives me nuts |
| 04:19 |
VanessaE |
Menche: oh I HATE that. |
| 04:19 |
Vadtec |
"emphasis" |
| 04:19 |
Menche |
"Yes" we now do smog |
| 04:20 |
Menche |
"Please" do not park here |
| 04:20 |
Menche |
GAH |
| 04:20 |
sokomine |
as long as they stick to one quotation mark alone you can't complain |
| 04:20 |
kahrl |
maybe there quoting something? |
| 04:20 |
Menche |
quoting one word? |
| 04:20 |
kaeza |
... |
| 04:20 |
VanessaE |
I wonder if that guy I read about on slashdot, the one who carries around a box full of markers and paints, still goes around correcting peoples' signs |
| 04:20 |
Menche |
quoting "yes"? |
| 04:20 |
VanessaE |
/kill kahrl |
| 04:20 |
sokomine |
er, sorry, was misreading it for exclamation marks |
| 04:20 |
* kaeza |
wonders if kahrl's comment was sarcasm |
| 04:21 |
sokomine |
havn't seen spam with quotation marks yet |
| 04:22 |
khonkhortisan |
maybe they're quoting something? |
| 04:22 |
Menche |
i don't think you have to quote "yes" |
| 04:22 |
kahrl |
khonkhortisan: no, its their |
| 04:22 |
khonkhortisan |
huh? |
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khonkhortisan |
no it's not |
| 04:23 |
Menche |
it is clearly "there" |
| 04:23 |
khonkhortisan |
there (place) their (ownership) they're (contraction of "they are") |
| 04:23 |
Menche |
</troll> |
| 04:23 |
khonkhortisan |
now what was I going to say - oh yeah, if they correct someone's sign, and it's the same color and font, I don't see how it could be considered destruction of property |
| 04:25 |
Menche |
not really legal, but if i witnessed them "fixing" something i wouldn't report them :P |
| 04:25 |
khonkhortisan |
there's trespassing though |
| 04:25 |
Menche |
i heard of them; i think they got in trouble for modifying a historical sign |
| 04:25 |
Menche |
or something like that |
| 04:27 |
khonkhortisan |
Something that was supposed to stay misspelled |
| 04:28 |
Menche |
the government doesn't like apostrophes in place names |
| 04:28 |
Menche |
saw a newspaper article about someone who wanted to name a mountain something like "andy's hill", but was changed to "andys hill" |
| 04:29 |
Menche |
(the name may have been different) |
| 04:29 |
khonkhortisan |
we'll just have to utf-8-encode the government, then |
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VanessaE |
bbl, bedtime |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all, happy Chocolate Pudding Day! :-D |
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Calinou |
s/chocolate/pony |
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Calinou |
what's that day anyway |
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Taoki |
Hi, I've a question about schematics. When importing one, is it possible to specify the angle? |
| 10:36 |
Taoki |
For minetest.place_schematic(pos, schematic) |
| 10:36 |
Taoki |
Also, what does pos represent? The center or the upper-left corner (starts from minimum X and Z)? |
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sfan5 |
hi |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 11:36 |
Taoki |
Hi hi |
| 11:37 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: How are things? Any news on that leak? |
| 11:37 |
PilzAdam |
I just woke up |
| 11:38 |
Taoki |
Yeah, from last night I mean. I had to leave earlier |
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* Taoki |
is sorry if being impatient |
| 11:38 |
Taoki |
And BRB |
| 11:50 |
Taoki |
back |
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Taoki |
Anyone knows what probability_list must be like for minetest.create_schematic? If I use { { x = 1, y = 2, z = 3}, 0 } like it says (0 because I want to ignore some nodes when creating the scmehatic) minetest even crashes |
| 11:59 |
Taoki |
"probability_list is an array of tables containing two fields, pos and prob." - That's what I'm trying, but it crashes |
| 12:06 |
dachary |
what does "creative mode" mean in minetest ? |
| 12:06 |
Taoki |
It seems to no longer crash if I use { x = 1, y = 2, z = 3, -1 } |
| 12:09 |
PilzAdam |
dachary, why dont you simple try it? |
| 12:09 |
dachary |
well, I did |
| 12:09 |
dachary |
and I don't see it ? |
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PilzAdam |
what minetest version? |
| 12:09 |
dachary |
I mean ... i can build etc. |
| 12:09 |
dachary |
0.4.7 |
| 12:09 |
dachary |
but what's special about creative mode ? |
| 12:09 |
PilzAdam |
you have unlimited nodes, a list of all nodes in your inventory and you can break every node with your hand |
| 12:10 |
dachary |
oh |
| 12:10 |
dachary |
a list of all nodes in my inventory ? |
| 12:11 |
PilzAdam |
like this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Minetest_creative_mode_.png |
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sfan5 |
oh damnit |
| 12:11 |
sfan5 |
you were faster :/ |
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dachary |
:-) |
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dachary |
oh |
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* dachary |
trying again |
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arsdragonfly |
hell |
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arsdragonfly |
Is it right to mine mese BLOCKS with a steel pickaxe? |
| 13:04 |
VanessaE |
yup |
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arsdragonfly |
I found some of them when the server was shutting down |
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arsdragonfly |
I mined 3 of them, nothing appeared in my inventory, then the game froze :-( |
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sfan5 |
arsdragonfly: it not the game that freezes, just the mouse |
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sfan5 |
alsom |
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sfan5 |
*also: if a server shuts down you wont get disconnected |
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harrison |
free as in beer |
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PilzAdam |
harrison has free beer? |
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harrison |
gpl4lyfe |
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harrison |
free elleko |
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OldCoder |
News: Some crashes in my worlds recently were due to the irc mod. It does not work on the new server. I will ask kaeza for help. |
| 15:54 |
OldCoder |
News: I offer the community high-end servers. 32GB RAM and 8 cores. I'll update to current MT and run more worlds more reliably. But I'll need help learning things again. |
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OldCoder |
ruskie, sfan5, Taoki, thexyz, Calinou ^ |
| 15:55 |
Calinou |
8 amd cores or 8 intel cores? :P |
| 15:55 |
OldCoder |
I don't remember and will find out |
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sfan5 |
:D |
| 15:55 |
OldCoder |
But it seems fast |
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Calinou |
cat /proc/cpuinfo |
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OldCoder |
All right One moment |
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OldCoder |
vendor_id : GenuineIntel |
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OldCoder |
model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5410 @ 2.33GHz |
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OldCoder |
cpu MHz : 1999.000 |
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OldCoder |
cache size : 6144 KB |
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OldCoder |
bogomips : 4667.18 |
| 15:57 |
OldCoder |
Seems O.K. |
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OldCoder |
Mem[|||||| 515/32243MB] |
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OldCoder |
That much RAM should last a while |
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OldCoder |
Zeg9, comments are for you too ^ |
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sfan5 |
OldCoder: could I run MinetestBot on it |
| 16:02 |
OldCoder |
Possibly. One step at a time. I request patience. Putting things back together after a year. |
| 16:02 |
Calinou |
OldCoder: bi-CPU or single CPU? :P |
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OldCoder |
Calinou, explain please and thank you |
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Zeg9 |
OldCoder: btw, could you host Zegaton II when it will be ready? |
| 16:02 |
OldCoder |
Zeg9, Yes |
| 16:03 |
* OldCoder |
is shutting down worlds for brief inspection |
| 16:03 |
Calinou |
OldCoder: do you have a single CPU or a dual CPU machine? |
| 16:03 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, Do you mean the laptop I am on? Or the server? |
| 16:03 |
Calinou |
I doubt you would have single CPU, since an octacore xeon costs 3500€ or so |
| 16:04 |
sfan5 |
OldCoder: i think he means the server |
| 16:04 |
Calinou |
the server |
| 16:04 |
Calinou |
intel doesn't even make mobile hexacores :P |
| 16:04 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, sfan5 what should I check? |
| 16:04 |
OldCoder |
There are photos on my blog... but probably somewhere in /proc or /sys |
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* OldCoder |
is probably going to revert to June 22 because there have been multiple crashes since then... best to avoid corruption |
| 16:06 |
Calinou |
fuc |
| 16:06 |
Calinou |
I just googled "Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5410" |
| 16:06 |
OldCoder |
And? |
| 16:06 |
OldCoder |
Good or bad? |
| 16:07 |
OldCoder |
Inquiring minds want to know :P |
| 16:07 |
Calinou |
OldCoder: it is a quad core |
| 16:07 |
Calinou |
so you are bi-CPU |
| 16:07 |
OldCoder |
Is this inadequate? |
| 16:07 |
Calinou |
OldCoder: googling is bad, startpaging is good |
| 16:07 |
Calinou |
no |
| 16:07 |
Calinou |
just different |
| 16:07 |
OldCoder |
Is this good? |
| 16:07 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, startpage point noted |
| 16:07 |
* OldCoder |
is transferring 130622 worlds to the new server |
| 16:08 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, quad core with eight CPUs then? |
| 16:08 |
* OldCoder |
is distracted and probably missing details |
| 16:11 |
Calinou |
OldCoder: no, you have two quad core CPUs on the same mobo |
| 16:11 |
Calinou |
likely |
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Calinou |
the core 2 gen does not use hyoerthreading (does it, in the server area?) |
| 16:11 |
Calinou |
hyper* |
| 16:11 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
| 16:12 |
Calinou |
Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology No |
| 16:12 |
Calinou |
nope |
| 16:12 |
OldCoder |
Very well thank you |
| 16:12 |
OldCoder |
As long as it works |
| 16:12 |
Calinou |
have to go, bye |
| 16:13 |
OldCoder |
Hmm. wget from new server is 10X faster than scp to new server. |
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OldCoder |
mrtux, wb |
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mrtux |
k |
| 16:14 |
mrtux |
internet being crap again |
| 16:14 |
sfan5 |
OldCoder: random info: MinetestBot requires at least python 2.6 and python-setuptools with "feedparser" installed to fully function |
| 16:15 |
OldCoder |
sfan5, that is fine |
| 16:15 |
harrison |
i am unimpressed with irc today and yesterday. very sluggish -- not the network this time, but the people. |
| 16:15 |
OldCoder |
New server should stabilize over the next month. There is one concern about a Python bot. I can't seem to start mine if... |
| 16:15 |
sfan5 |
I may also add a !git pull command so I can instruct MinetestBot to pull from git://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules |
| 16:15 |
OldCoder |
harrison, hi |
| 16:15 |
harrison |
oh, drat, i know i know you |
| 16:16 |
OldCoder |
sfan5, readline code fails if my Python bot is started from /etc/rc.local |
| 16:16 |
harrison |
i mean, we have chatted before |
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mrtux |
harrison: yes i agree |
| 16:16 |
harrison |
but i don't remember if it was in this channel OldCoder |
| 16:16 |
OldCoder |
yes we have drat chat that is off the bat hi harrison |
| 16:16 |
OldCoder |
harrison, it was in PM |
| 16:17 |
OldCoder |
sfan5, as there is no tty... so my bot needs tweaking |
| 16:17 |
harrison |
is there not something a bit strange in this: that MineTest uses lua and Minetestbot uses python? |
| 16:17 |
harrison |
free elleko |
| 16:17 |
OldCoder |
harrison, it seems O.K. |
| 16:18 |
harrison |
free snowden |
| 16:18 |
Zeg9 |
MineTest and Minetestbot are separate projects :p |
| 16:18 |
harrison |
free weev |
| 16:18 |
Zeg9 |
in hedgewars they even use Pascal, Haskell, Lua and C++ in the same software |
| 16:18 |
harrison |
all right. let me play the devil's advocate again and ask this: |
| 16:19 |
harrison |
Wouldn't it be better to use only one language for the whole thing, rather than even 2 such as C++ and lua? |
| 16:20 |
Jordach |
sunofabitch |
| 16:20 |
harrison |
We should ask why we think we need scripting languages |
| 16:20 |
Jordach |
harrison, because its easier than re-compliing |
| 16:20 |
harrison |
for instance, consider second life |
| 16:20 |
Jordach |
http://cuddlebuggery.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Picard-Facepalm.jpg |
| 16:20 |
harrison |
the client uses C++ (in most cases) |
| 16:21 |
OldCoder |
Is there really such a thing as a scripting language? |
| 16:21 |
harrison |
the inworld scripting uses LSL (or other Mono langs) |
| 16:21 |
* OldCoder |
is resting... back in a few minutes |
| 16:23 |
harrison |
Jordach -- good answer! One reason is that a scripting language has no (visible) compilation stage |
| 16:23 |
Jordach |
ffs - this milkshake ring pull is pissing me off |
| 16:23 |
harrison |
and that, since it is separate from the statically compiled code of the client |
| 16:24 |
harrison |
(the client must be statically compiled for speed) |
| 16:24 |
harrison |
we can write a script and run it while the client is running |
| 16:25 |
harrison |
What if we could use the statically compiled main language as the scripting language? |
| 16:25 |
harrison |
Two uses, one language |
| 16:25 |
harrison |
So that bits of code could be compiled as scripts |
| 16:26 |
harrison |
and introjected into the client |
| 16:26 |
harrison |
to run at compiled speed |
| 16:28 |
Zeg9 |
C++ takes a little time to compiel (only for big files :p) |
| 16:28 |
Zeg9 |
but on non-speedy machines (especially - the single core ones)... |
| 16:29 |
Jordach |
fuck you and your hatred for pentium 4s |
| 16:30 |
Jordach |
most business computers still use em |
| 16:31 |
Zeg9 |
:p |
| 16:31 |
Jordach |
and yet, microsoft wants them dead |
| 16:31 |
Jordach |
most of em cant run 8 |
| 16:31 |
Jordach |
mine can :> |
| 16:35 |
OldCoder |
Back |
| 16:36 |
Zeg9 |
Wb |
| 16:36 |
OldCoder |
ty |
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Kacey |
good morning! |
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Zeg9 |
Hi |
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Jordach |
tch, vanessa isnt here |
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harrison |
Compilation time is surely not the issue! |
| 17:09 |
harrison |
I spoke of the compilation of code fragments at runtime |
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harrison |
Now, that this would be difficult to do using C++ : I am prepared to believe it |
| 17:10 |
Zeg9 |
^that |
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harrison |
For a film demonstrating the technique using a proper language, view this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOocN1BKjh0 |
| 17:13 |
harrison |
the "scripting" fragments implement raytrace shaders and that code runs natively |
| 17:13 |
harrison |
it's not a "dynamic language" |
| 17:13 |
harrison |
supposedly |
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harrison |
in fact this experiment showed me that a proper static language can do dynamic things |
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harrison |
if i can do this using oberon, imagine what a truly gifted coder could accomplish |
| 17:15 |
Kacey |
hey does anyone want to help make a rp2 type mod? |
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Kacey |
bbl |
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kaeza |
greetings |
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iqualfragile |
prepare for loads of german ubuntu users http://planet.ubuntuusers.de/#article_0 |
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PilzAdam |
iqualfragile, \o/ |
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iqualfragile |
but the blogpost is not realy accurate… |
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sfan5 |
iqualfragile: yay |
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PilzAdam |
iqualfragile, strange that they mention mods when they have 0.3 in their repos... |
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iqualfragile |
well, he mentions that you can download the new version |
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iqualfragile |
not everybody can use arch :) |
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Jordach |
harch-linux |
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frogcrush |
iqualfragile: What? Not everybody can use Arch? |
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iqualfragile |
i guess so |
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iqualfragile |
otherwise everybody would be |
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frogcrush |
My only reasons not to use arch are school, and Visual Studio |
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frogcrush |
School uses GoToMeeting |
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frogcrush |
Visual Studio is amazing |
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Jordach |
i agree with Visual Studio |
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Jordach |
EXCEPT for the mangling of C++ |
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diemartin |
old topic bump: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=96668#p96668 |
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Jordach |
anyways, im creating my own game for minetest |
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Jordach |
anything you know about minetest_game? forget it. |
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Jordach |
(it also breaks compatibility with all minetest_game worlds) |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, challenge: Make a video using blender of the "This is sparta!" scene with Sam kicking Steve off a cliff; and s/madness/Minecraft/ s/Sparta/Minetest |
| 18:59 |
Kacey |
our character is named Sam? |
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PilzAdam |
Kacey, no |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, unfortunately i cant clone ENTIRE models + armature |
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Kacey |
aah i like george better for a name. |
| 19:00 |
Jordach |
ew |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, and that means? |
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Jordach |
Kacey, you forget that the player is unisex |
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Kacey |
jorge? |
| 19:00 |
* Jordach |
slaps john_minetest with Sam |
| 19:00 |
Kacey |
johnita! |
| 19:00 |
Jordach |
brb |
| 19:00 |
Jordach |
slapping john_minetest with sam render |
| 19:01 |
* john_minetest |
slapping Jordach with creepy beardy man render |
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Kacey |
O.o |
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PilzAdam |
john_minetest, yes, thats why he chose that name |
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PilzAdam |
its still named character.png |
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Kacey |
charlie shall be his name! |
| 19:10 |
PilzAdam |
I know a dog named Charlie |
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Kacey |
see i have a unisex nickname |
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Kacey |
Kacey is both a male and female name |
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PilzAdam |
john_minetest, btw, I am a member of the German Physicist Society for one year for free because of the 15 points I wrote in the Physik LK :D |
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Jordach |
the fight is over. i decided the name for skin as i drew it: |
| 19:13 |
Jordach |
*loads commit* |
| 19:13 |
PilzAdam |
character.png |
| 19:13 |
Jordach |
thats a filename |
| 19:14 |
Jordach |
by that logic, steve is char.png |
| 19:14 |
Calinou |
^ |
| 19:14 |
Calinou |
\o/ debate on player name |
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Kacey |
i say charlie |
| 19:15 |
Kacey |
or Van. just for VanessaE |
| 19:15 |
PilzAdam |
I say name it "Rainbow Dash" and fight with all the MLP fanboys ;-) |
| 19:16 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, http://i.imgur.com/Vr0u6LJ.png |
| 19:16 |
Calinou |
do that, but you will need to reskin it |
| 19:17 |
Jordach |
suck my left hook, biatch |
| 19:17 |
Calinou |
Jordach, replace the orange guy with minecraft character |
| 19:17 |
Calinou |
would be funnier :P |
| 19:17 |
Jordach |
hold on |
| 19:17 |
Jordach |
nope. dont have the skin at, |
| 19:17 |
Jordach |
atm* |
| 19:17 |
Jordach |
http://cuddlebuggery.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Picard-Facepalm.jpg |
| 19:17 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, y u not create that video I requested? |
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frogcrush |
He went on a date? |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, i suck at video making in blender |
| 19:18 |
Jordach |
i could make two films and have one with alpha |
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* PilzAdam |
has 1.2 too |
| 19:19 |
PilzAdam |
got an book for that |
| 19:19 |
PilzAdam |
(and also a book from the DPG) |
| 19:19 |
Calinou |
ITT: pinterest germany edition |
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iqualfragile |
Jordach: http://minecraft.net/images/char.png |
| 19:20 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam, don't you have "Increasing your wifi range with a unicorn - a practical guide" book too? :) |
| 19:21 |
khonkhortisan |
unihorn? |
| 19:21 |
Jordach |
Taoki, just seen your latest work |
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Kacey |
khonkhortisan, i gave up on your crossing code. i will wait for it to be pushed to mesecons master git |
| 19:22 |
Jordach |
jesus fucking christ |
| 19:22 |
Taoki |
Jordach: The structures? |
| 19:22 |
Jordach |
nono |
| 19:22 |
Jordach |
youtube + bledner |
| 19:22 |
Jordach |
blender |
| 19:22 |
Taoki |
aaa |
| 19:22 |
Taoki |
ok :P |
| 19:22 |
khonkhortisan |
huh. What was wrong with it, just an unregistered node? |
| 19:22 |
PilzAdam |
Taoki, could you do that? <PilzAdam> Jordach, challenge: Make a video using blender of the "This is sparta!" scene with Sam kicking Steve off a cliff; and s/madness/Minecraft/ s/Sparta/Minetest |
| 19:23 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: Doubt I'm good enough at doing that properly. Still learning Blender better |
| 19:24 |
Calinou |
s/sam/rainbow dash |
| 19:25 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam requested it |
| 19:26 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-vzzpEiDkM |
| 19:26 |
Jordach |
that's whats Taoki can do with an alpha channel |
| 19:26 |
Taoki |
Well, the animation wasn't that good as can be seen |
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Calinou |
<khonkhortisan> unihorn? => what? :P |
| 19:31 |
Jordach |
i've now replaced my /face command: http://i.imgur.com/VJZSGcB.png |
| 19:31 |
khonkhortisan |
unicorn horn |
| 19:32 |
khonkhortisan |
used in certain nethack circles |
| 19:32 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/VJZSGcB.png |
| 19:32 |
Jordach |
insta facepalm |
| 19:32 |
* Calinou |
replaces their /brohoof command with that image |
| 19:32 |
khonkhortisan |
nice comeback |
| 19:32 |
Jordach |
btw, /nope: |
| 19:32 |
Jordach |
http://24.media.tumblr.com/50681a805561cd8fd0e0391a9de24467/tumblr_menghmmr3I1qbvaf3o1_500.gif |
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Calinou |
I actually don't have /brohoof :P |
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Jordach |
this is how useful x-chat's user commands are |
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Jordach |
(well, hexchat.) |
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Calinou |
khonkhortisan, in candy box you can get an unicorn's horn for health regen in quests |
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Jordach |
Calinou, chess? |
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Calinou |
not now, in ~5 mins |
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Jordach |
alrighty |
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khonkhortisan |
in nethack a horn-o-plenty gives you food, otherwise it can heal sickness |
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Jordach |
anyone ever played age of empires |
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Jordach |
(i like the spin-off, age of mythology) |
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Jordach |
hold on |
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Calinou |
back |
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kaeza |
Jordach, played AoE 2 (+ Conquerors expansion) |
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Jordach |
i just gave Sam boobs |
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Calinou |
also give him a horn and wings |
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Calinou |
then ask micheal larabel to post on phoronix "Sam Now Has Boobs", uid313 comments: "Still no boob reclocking support" |
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* Jordach |
hands Calinou a game of chess |
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Calinou |
and BO$$ comments "boob hate starts in 3-2-1..." |
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Calinou |
Jordach, http://lichess.org/qged6ikn |
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iqualfragile |
lichless is wrong, my browser supports websockets, i have just disabled them -.- |
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Calinou |
\o/ |
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Calinou |
iqualfragile, dat paranoid |
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Calinou |
Jordach, lol @ how I gave my queen |
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Calinou |
that was a premove :P |
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Jordach |
Calinou, haha |
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Jordach |
i timed out |
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Jordach |
literally |
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iqualfragile |
yeah, i am one of those guys who reads throught all the changes… |
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PilzAdam |
<harrison> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQmNOkUKW1 |
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PilzAdam |
:-p |
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Kacey |
z |
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Kacey |
sv2 x/j0fugy6awp8tl,jhvs= |
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Kacey |
there was a spider on my keyboard |
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harrison |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQmNOkUKW1c |
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harrison |
missed a char |
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Calinou |
he did it, see |
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Calinou |
or john_minetest's wifi-unicorn probably raged and killed john_minetest |
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Calinou |
Kacey, a spider that is heavy enough to type? O_o |
| 20:06 |
Calinou |
or did you just try to kill it, so you typed by mistake? :P |
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YoungDerp |
no i killed it |
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* YoungDerp |
waits for himself to time out |
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Calinou |
/ns ghost |
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PilzAdam |
/msg NickServ GHOST Kacey |
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Kacey |
there we go |
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Kacey |
afk |
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Kacey |
back |
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kaeza |
hi V |
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Calinou |
...anessaE |
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PilzAdam |
...zekowitz |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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Calinou |
VanessaE, I merged your pull request, btw |
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VanessaE |
I saw, thanks |
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Kacey |
hi VanessaE |
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* Kacey |
still has to bug uberi about the code |
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* sfan5 |
reading a paper on security for library computers: "There are a wide variety of web browsers that do the same things as IE, and some are |
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sfan5 |
significantly less vulnerable to malicious websites. The reality is, however, more people are familiar with IE than any of the others. A well patched version of IE should be plenty sufficient" |
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sfan5 |
*facepalm* |
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Calinou |
TIL you can patch IE |
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sfan5 |
http://www.giac.org/paper/gsec/4304/securing-public-access-computers-library-setting/107011 |
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sfan5 |
page 18 |
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PilzAdam |
sfan5, #neuland |
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sfan5 |
:D |
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Calinou |
some governments actually say users should not use IE |
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Calinou |
except the US :trollface: |
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sfan5 |
anyway, that paper is from 2005 |
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PilzAdam |
Calinou, the german government doesnt even know about this thing called "internet" |
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sfan5 |
why would library computers even use windows? |
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sfan5 |
its full of security holes, there are still ways to get admin... |
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sfan5 |
and the by far worst thing: IE |
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sfan5 |
my school hired a company to make the computer work.... |
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kaeza |
sfan5, here, the UTU (one of the major universities) still used Win98 up to a few years ago ;_; |
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sfan5 |
they installed ubuntu 9.04 |
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sfan5 |
kaeza: notbad.png |
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kaeza |
yes, teachnig Borland Turbo C++ |
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kaeza |
ching* |
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Calinou |
"the future is tablets!" --MS |
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Calinou |
:phoronix rolleyes: |
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sfan5 |
*cough* |
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sfan5 |
tranlated to proper english from bussiness english: "the future is overpriced Windows RT devices with pricey cool-looking flat keyboards!" --MS |
| 20:32 |
Calinou |
of course, that's how business english works |
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sfan5 |
-s |
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Calinou |
try translating business english to proper english on ubuntu.com or canonical.com |
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Kacey |
lol this reminds me of a song |
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Kacey |
Epic Rap Battles of History: Steve Jobs Vs Bill Gates |
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Kacey |
youtube it |
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* sfan5 |
saw it |
| 20:34 |
Calinou |
old news |
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PilzAdam |
Kacey, everyone in this channel has watched it over 600 thousand times |
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Calinou |
Jordach will probably make Epic Rap Battles of History: Sam Vs Rainbow Dash |
| 20:35 |
PilzAdam |
(and nobody else) |
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Kacey |
aaw |
| 20:37 |
VanessaE |
never seen it (don't wanna, either. I hate rap) |
| 20:38 |
Kacey |
it is funny |
| 20:39 |
BrandonReese |
Oh I hate rap, but I love epic rap battles of history |
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PilzAdam |
^ |
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Calinou |
night |
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Kacey |
http://mg.viewskew.com/submit/ |
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Kacey |
k i made a command for hexchat |
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Kacey |
http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jboot111/m/confusing/ |
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Kacey |
look at the picture! |
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VanessaE |
theh |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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Kacey |
the command for me is /confused |
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* arsdragonfly|pho |
was woken up by the rain |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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Kacey |
Your use of the network |
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Kacey |
indicates your acceptance of this policy. |
| 21:46 |
Kacey |
NO! i dont accept this policy! lol |
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* Kacey |
pokes Uberi |
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Uberi |
o/ |
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Kacey |
afk |
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PilzAdam |
:D |
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kahrl |
astroturfing D: https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hashtag&diff=119805258&oldid=119772966 |
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Kacey |
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