Time |
Nick |
Message |
00:00 |
Tesseract |
Ehm... |
00:03 |
Menche |
copied the dlls it was complaining about into bin/ |
00:03 |
Menche |
now it starts but promptly crashes |
00:03 |
Menche |
on both wine and windows |
00:03 |
PilzAdam |
well, in my build you can use the menu :-p |
00:05 |
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00:06 |
Snake12534 |
Hiya guys, how are your guys' day so far? |
00:07 |
* Menche |
is very perturbed at windows and cross-compiling right now |
00:07 |
Snake12534 |
What's your OS? |
00:08 |
Menche |
Arch Linux |
00:08 |
Snake12534 |
That is horrible :/ |
00:08 |
Snake12534 |
I used to have Windows 8, it is amzing. |
00:08 |
Snake12534 |
Now I have 7, it isn't as great, but much better than Windows Visa. |
00:08 |
Snake12534 |
Vista* |
00:09 |
* Menche |
thinks that windows 8 is horrible and 7 is marginally better |
00:09 |
Menche |
and Arch linux rules |
00:09 |
Tesseract |
^ Agreed. |
00:10 |
Menche |
at least windows 7 has a normal desktop interface and not a tablet one |
00:10 |
Snake12534 |
Well, sure. |
00:10 |
Snake12534 |
But I like the new stuff ^^ |
00:10 |
Snake12534 |
That's just me. |
00:11 |
Snake12534 |
so how's minecraft? |
00:11 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: khonkhortisan commited to minetest/minetest: Fix crash in dump() when index is a table 3e4f1462bc 2013-06-14T17:10:16-07:00 http://git.io/5lEwrw |
00:12 |
Menche |
haven't played it for a while |
00:12 |
Menche |
i think most people here haven't |
00:12 |
Snake12534 |
Minetest and Minecraft same thing? |
00:12 |
Menche |
well, maybe not most |
00:12 |
Menche |
no |
00:12 |
khonkhortisan |
we have a forum thread about that |
00:12 |
Snake12534 |
I see. |
00:12 |
Menche |
minetest is a free game similar to minecraft written in c++ rather than java |
00:12 |
Snake12534 |
In that case, Minecraft is crap. |
00:12 |
khonkhortisan |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6150 |
00:12 |
Snake12534 |
Oh. |
00:13 |
Snake12534 |
So I suspect Minetest is better? :) |
00:13 |
Snake12534 |
Who developed this game? |
00:13 |
PilzAdam |
Snake12534, you are repeating yourself |
00:13 |
Menche |
celeron55 started it, now there's a bunch of other devs |
00:13 |
Snake12534 |
ah |
00:13 |
khonkhortisan |
minetest has a few more things to work out |
00:13 |
Menche |
it doesn't have quite as many features as minecraft, but tends to perform better and has an easy modding api |
00:13 |
Snake12534 |
PilzAdam : the games I play are slower in response |
00:14 |
Snake12534 |
hmm k |
00:14 |
Snake12534 |
Minecraft on my PC tends to crash often. |
00:14 |
khonkhortisan |
mods can crash your game too, so it's even :) |
00:15 |
Menche |
jordach apparently beheads people who mix up minecraft and minetest |
00:15 |
Snake12534 |
oh, that's sad |
00:16 |
Snake12534 |
sorry, cause the name is so alike ^ |
00:16 |
khonkhortisan |
you can call it mesetest if you wish |
00:16 |
Menche |
huh? |
00:16 |
PilzAdam |
mesetint work too |
00:16 |
PilzAdam |
+s |
00:16 |
khonkhortisan |
minitest |
00:16 |
Menche |
mesetint was the original minetest 0.4.x lua game mode |
00:16 |
PilzAdam |
khonkhortisan, no, that Copyright by PilzAdam ;-) |
00:16 |
khonkhortisan |
oh |
00:17 |
khonkhortisan |
metaste |
00:17 |
Snake12534 |
Is khonkhortisan like an admin on minetest? |
00:17 |
khonkhortisan |
lol no |
00:17 |
Tesseract |
Snake12534: No, but many of us, including him, develop it. |
00:17 |
khonkhortisan |
at most, minor contributor |
00:17 |
Menche |
the mesetint game was never begun, apparently (celeron55's repo is empty) |
00:18 |
Snake12534 |
Ah |
00:18 |
Snake12534 |
I only contribute to Ninja Kiwi. |
00:18 |
Menche |
it's minetest_game now |
00:18 |
Snake12534 |
For $$ xd |
00:18 |
khonkhortisan |
You can make a mod that converts real money into minetest money |
00:19 |
PilzAdam |
khonkhortisan, you are on page 3: https://www.ohloh.net/p/minetest-c55/contributors?page=1&query=&sort=commits |
00:19 |
khonkhortisan |
very minor |
00:19 |
PilzAdam |
well, there are 6 pages :-) |
00:19 |
khonkhortisan |
above average, yay me! |
00:20 |
Tesseract |
Page 1. :-) But I need to make a lot more to stay up there. |
00:20 |
Exio |
page 2 :D |
00:20 |
Exio |
:P |
00:20 |
PilzAdam |
Note to self: Dont accept ShadowNinja's pull requests for a while :-p |
00:21 |
Snake12534 |
What is a pull request? |
00:21 |
khonkhortisan |
So that's who you are |
00:21 |
khonkhortisan |
A pull request is equivalent to a patch |
00:21 |
PilzAdam |
Snake12534, we have a central repository for our code, where people send patches |
00:21 |
khonkhortisan |
a change to the code that you want someone else to add for you |
00:21 |
Snake12534 |
I see. |
00:21 |
Menche |
someone makes their own version of minetest and asks for their changes to be added to the official version |
00:21 |
PilzAdam |
Snake12534, one of the core developers has to check the patch and merge it if its good |
00:22 |
Snake12534 |
Understandable |
00:22 |
PilzAdam |
a list of core developers can be found here: http://minetest.net/contributors |
00:24 |
PilzAdam |
Snake12534, and here are the pull requests if you want to look at them: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pulls |
00:24 |
Snake12534 |
Okay. |
00:27 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
00:34 |
Tesseract |
To close: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/749 |
00:35 |
Tesseract |
Also this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/726 |
00:35 |
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00:37 |
Tesseract |
Erm, 65 pull requests? |
00:40 |
Tesseract |
khonkhortisan: I think we might have talked about this but this is an Irrlight issue: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/678 |
00:41 |
khonkhortisan |
yes it is |
00:43 |
Tesseract |
Then it should be removed from the Minetest bug tracker, right? |
00:55 |
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00:56 |
EnvoyXiphos |
Im so happy im Back in Minetest |
00:57 |
sokomine |
then welcome back :-) |
00:57 |
* Tesseract |
found a bug to fix... |
00:57 |
EnvoyXiphos |
omg sokomine |
00:57 |
Tesseract |
My dev install is too old... |
00:57 |
EnvoyXiphos |
remember me? |
00:57 |
sokomine |
oh, i'm sure there will always be some bugs |
00:58 |
sokomine |
vaguely :-) |
00:58 |
EnvoyXiphos |
Hmm I believe from your 4.1 or 4.3 server |
00:58 |
EnvoyXiphos |
And I do remember you're a girl |
00:59 |
sokomine |
yes, that's right. but i never run a server myshelf. at least not more than as a proof-of-concept/a bit playing around |
00:59 |
Exio |
4.1? minetest is still 0.! |
00:59 |
sokomine |
i'm sure he meant 0.4.1 |
00:59 |
EnvoyXiphos |
yeah |
01:00 |
EnvoyXiphos |
soko I think oldcoder was hosting |
01:00 |
sokomine |
calinous server? that is now hosted by oldcoder? |
01:00 |
EnvoyXiphos |
I believe |
01:01 |
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01:01 |
sokomine |
might be. there was a mine at -1000 where we digged and looked at those intresting mese- and diamondnodes that where at -1000 and belonged to calinou :-) |
01:01 |
EnvoyXiphos |
anyone know what OldCoder is doing? |
01:02 |
sokomine |
you can still see him around most of the time |
01:02 |
sokomine |
he regulary joins the channel |
01:02 |
sokomine |
his server still runs as well |
01:02 |
EnvoyXiphos |
he is still hosting my 4.3 server |
01:03 |
sokomine |
on the ex-calinou-server, i did build a small house/farm in the meantime. that server does have the animals mod |
01:03 |
sokomine |
ah :-) yes. perhaps that's where i remember your name from |
01:03 |
EnvoyXiphos |
:) I do remember being in a server with you |
01:04 |
Exio |
am i the only here who doesn't play MT? :( |
01:04 |
EnvoyXiphos |
maybe |
01:04 |
EnvoyXiphos |
I havent played for like 6 months\ |
01:05 |
EnvoyXiphos |
is M13 still around? |
01:15 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
01:15 |
OldCoder |
EnvoyXiphos, He is around under other names |
01:16 |
EnvoyXiphos |
like what? |
01:16 |
OldCoder |
Folks good evening I will be around this weekend... EnvoyXiphos I will talk to you then |
01:16 |
OldCoder |
c u o/ |
01:24 |
Tesseract |
Bug fixed, I just need a good variable name... (selected_serverlist and serverlist_selected is bound to lead to confusion.) |
01:26 |
kahrl |
Tesseract: this is probably not going to be merged as the whole main menu will be replaced |
01:27 |
Tesseract |
Oh, right. |
01:27 |
Tesseract |
Well replace it soon. :-) |
01:27 |
kahrl |
Stupid RL keeping me from debugging it ;) |
01:32 |
Tesseract |
!later tell sapier* Is this fixed in the lua main menu? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/672 |
01:32 |
Tesseract |
Seems he isn't registered. |
02:07 |
Menche|away |
!up 25.15.103.224 |
02:07 |
MinetestBot |
25.15.103.224:30000 seems to be down |
02:20 |
Exio |
is anyone here a heavy-mt player? :P |
02:20 |
Exio |
for comments about #751 (https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/751) |
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02:27 |
Octupus |
Hi |
02:27 |
Tesseract |
I think it should be merged. |
02:27 |
Tesseract |
Hello! |
02:33 |
Exio |
hi Octupus |
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02:51 |
VanessaE |
hi all. |
02:54 |
Exio |
hi VanessaE! |
02:55 |
VanessaE |
hey |
02:58 |
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02:59 |
* Kacey |
solved OldCoder's latest math puzzle |
03:04 |
EnvoyXiphos |
lol |
03:07 |
Exio |
night :P |
03:21 |
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03:26 |
khonkhortisan |
where's that puzzle? |
03:46 |
VanessaE |
quiet night huh |
03:55 |
khonkhortisan |
For the mesecon rules, normally it's {{xyz},{xyz},{xyz}}. I'm changing it to also use { {{xyz},{xyz}}, {{xyz},{xyz}} }. That would make it so a node isn't just mesecon.state.on/off anymore, but a binary representation of whether each rule is on or not. |
03:56 |
khonkhortisan |
Should I make it use state = "thisnode00", states = {"thisnode00","thisnode10","thisnode01","thisnode11"} or only tell it the states it can change to from there? |
03:58 |
khonkhortisan |
state.on and state.off might be extended to state.01 and state.10 (but lua doesn't like numbers there) |
04:01 |
VanessaE |
I'm not at all sure. |
04:03 |
khonkhortisan |
I'll start calling them metarules |
04:32 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: done yet? ;) |
04:43 |
khonkhortisan |
no - I've gotten it to not crash when I connect it (partially processing the rules), but haven't gotten rid of the crash when I turn it on (state.on, and partially on) |
04:43 |
VanessaE |
I was kidding :) |
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04:46 |
khonkhortisan |
But your question parses |
04:46 |
VanessaE |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94815#p94815 <-- wait, what? |
04:47 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan, isn't that exactly the effect you're trying to create with the null cell? |
04:47 |
VanessaE |
oh wait |
04:47 |
VanessaE |
nevermind, I misread that |
04:47 |
khonkhortisan |
it only conducts from axis-opposite faces :) |
04:48 |
VanessaE |
yeah, I read that as "it conducts TO axis-opposite" :) |
04:48 |
khonkhortisan |
When mesecons is able to conduct using the full facedir, all the nodes will be looked at for duplicates and missing ones |
04:48 |
VanessaE |
so there are plans to rewrite it for 6dfacedir? |
04:48 |
khonkhortisan |
I have plans |
04:49 |
khonkhortisan |
even if it requires a screwdriver |
04:49 |
VanessaE |
good. Use the code in Homedecor lighting.lua to help with the placement prediction :) |
04:49 |
VanessaE |
that'll reduce the need for the screwdriver. |
04:49 |
khonkhortisan |
simple as facedir->xyz rotation, and rotating the rule vector by that. |
04:49 |
VanessaE |
rotation of vectors...doesn't rubenwardy have some code for that? |
04:49 |
khonkhortisan |
but we'd have to reinvent the wheel to rotate vectors |
04:50 |
khonkhortisan |
commonlib didn't get that far |
04:50 |
VanessaE |
damn |
04:50 |
khonkhortisan |
https://github.com/rubenwardy/commonlib/blob/master/README.md |
04:51 |
khonkhortisan |
oh, there's rotate_y |
04:52 |
khonkhortisan |
and commonlib needs a table copy, I have two mods that have different versions of it |
04:52 |
VanessaE |
ruben' |
04:52 |
VanessaE |
ruben's node ownership check is out of date anyway |
04:52 |
khonkhortisan |
I see you're using qwerty |
04:52 |
VanessaE |
zeg9 made some improvements to the one in homedecor |
04:53 |
VanessaE |
heh yeah |
04:53 |
VanessaE |
when I used my C128 to chat, you could always tell then, too - 7 instead of ' (shift-7) half the time :) |
04:54 |
khonkhortisan |
as soon as you pour something into the keys, you have to replace the whole computer? |
04:55 |
VanessaE |
thankfully not |
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05:35 |
khonkhortisan |
Do we have per-nodebox textures? I haven't been keeping up |
05:39 |
khonkhortisan |
joined, startled a rat. It ran away from me. I followed it and fell to my death. |
05:42 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
05:42 |
VanessaE |
closest we have is meshes, and those don't apply to nodes. |
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05:56 |
sfan5 |
good morning |
05:57 |
VanessaE |
mornin' |
05:57 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: do you have any plans to rewrite your old particles mod to use the recently-added particle spawner, at least for torches? |
06:09 |
sfan5 |
yes |
06:14 |
VanessaE |
cool |
06:53 |
khonkhortisan |
eight minutes to morning for me |
06:53 |
khonkhortisan |
the particle spawner doesn't support rain |
06:58 |
VanessaE |
it does, but the rain doesn't "collide" I guess |
06:59 |
khonkhortisan |
it does if you never look up or down |
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07:00 |
VanessaE |
I mean with buildings etc, so it rains inside if there's enough light :-) |
07:00 |
khonkhortisan |
they alls |
07:00 |
khonkhortisan |
whoops |
07:01 |
khonkhortisan |
it also rains inside if you're standing outside looking in |
07:01 |
VanessaE |
although, |
07:01 |
VanessaE |
didn't I see a commit or pull request or something that *does* add particle collisions? |
07:02 |
khonkhortisan |
probably. But then you'd have rain standing on end. |
07:02 |
VanessaE |
I wonder if a shader is better for such things |
07:04 |
khonkhortisan |
My knowledge ends at that question. |
07:05 |
khonkhortisan |
Congratulations! You've defeated KhonBot! |
07:05 |
VanessaE |
heh |
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09:38 |
MarkTwain |
Hello |
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09:38 |
MarkTwain |
How do i compile mosstest> |
09:40 |
Jordach |
you dont |
09:40 |
Jordach |
its JAVA |
09:41 |
Jordach |
and its not even ready |
09:41 |
FreeFull |
Java can be compiled |
09:41 |
Jordach |
so why are you asking these questions |
09:41 |
MarkTwain |
How do i play it? |
09:41 |
Jordach |
YOU CANT, |
09:42 |
MarkTwain |
Then what do i do with it! |
09:42 |
Jordach |
nothing |
09:42 |
Jordach |
wait till its actually any good first |
09:42 |
sfan5 |
!g mosstest |
09:42 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: http://www.hamworthy.com/PageFiles/1756/Moss%20Test%20Hall.pdf |
09:43 |
MarkTwain |
irrelevant |
09:43 |
Jordach |
rarkenin is cloning MT with JAVA |
09:44 |
FreeFull |
Someone already tried that before |
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09:50 |
Jordach |
whats the flat mapgen option for minetest |
09:51 |
Jordach |
found it |
09:52 |
TheLastProject |
Why would you clone Minetest in Java? Isn't Minetest being in C++ a good thing? |
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09:56 |
* sfan5 |
found out how to get the version from a minetest executable: strings minetest.exe | grep -E "VER=([^ ]+)" -o | sed -s 's/VER=//' | head -n1 |
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09:59 |
* Jordach |
builds a 7 segment display with api |
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10:10 |
rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
10:11 |
Jordach |
heres the bus for my 7 segment display: http://i.imgur.com/HGQIuMr.png |
10:17 |
rubenwardy |
nice! |
10:17 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-06-14#i_3141906 |
10:17 |
rubenwardy |
where is the bus stop? |
10:18 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, i was talking about data bus |
10:18 |
rubenwardy |
wow |
10:18 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, I know |
10:18 |
rubenwardy |
winding you up :P 8) |
10:18 |
Jordach |
thats in the smallest possible size without microcontrollers |
10:19 |
rubenwardy |
ah |
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10:43 |
Jordach |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94845#p94845 there |
10:44 |
Jordach |
you can now actually get my skins |
10:45 |
Exio |
aw, i wonder for what xyz.is is used |
10:46 |
thexyz |
uh |
10:46 |
thexyz |
for different things |
10:46 |
Exio |
like? :P |
10:48 |
thexyz |
well, there are some subdomains |
10:51 |
thexyz |
oh, you probably know about one which watches you |
10:51 |
Jordach |
yeah, nsa.xyz.is |
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10:57 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
10:58 |
Jordach |
hello |
11:00 |
Jordach |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94845#p94845 |
11:00 |
PilzAdam |
http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=6092 |
11:00 |
Jordach |
dafuq |
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11:07 |
Jordach |
hmm |
11:08 |
Jordach |
i just made a pixely minetest logo |
11:09 |
rubenwardy |
The food mod is getting an API! |
11:09 |
Jordach |
does the minetest model actually SUPPORT alpha transparencies |
11:10 |
rubenwardy |
Including: on domand ingredient declaration |
11:10 |
Jordach |
demand* |
11:10 |
rubenwardy |
simplified food declaration |
11:10 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
11:10 |
Jordach |
also: why did the food mod become virgin media :P |
11:10 |
rubenwardy |
huh? |
11:10 |
rubenwardy |
oh, on demand |
11:10 |
Jordach |
on demand? |
11:11 |
rubenwardy |
It means if none of the foods use an ingredient, that ingredient is not defined |
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11:11 |
rubenwardy |
Pacman: http://ubuntuone.com/7LSZWFoHKS51rPSGh2agM0 |
11:11 |
Jordach |
if i know the minetest model supports alpha transparencies: http://i.imgur.com/Kg0NRgB.png |
11:12 |
PilzAdam |
how about testing it? |
11:12 |
Jordach |
how about fuck yeah |
11:13 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, 94.249.210.106 |
11:13 |
Jordach |
join |
11:13 |
Jordach |
!up 94.249.210.106 |
11:13 |
MinetestBot |
94.249.210.106:30000 seems to be down |
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Jordach |
damn |
11:13 |
Jordach |
server's dead |
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Jordach |
!up 5.231.50.51 |
11:17 |
MinetestBot |
5.231.50.51:30000 is up (97ms) |
11:17 |
Jordach |
better |
11:17 |
Jordach |
!up minetest.ru |
11:17 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.ru:30000 is up (199ms) |
11:17 |
Jordach |
HAHA |
11:17 |
Jordach |
better ping |
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TheLastProject |
Jordach: How exactly is 199ms a "better ping" than 97ms? |
11:18 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, nope. the engine does not support alpha skins |
11:18 |
Jordach |
TheLastProject, i meant to mine |
11:18 |
TheLastProject |
Hmm, k~ |
11:22 |
Jordach |
removed skin |
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PilzAdam |
bbl |
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rubenwardy |
I might try that |
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rubenwardy |
can lua do image editing? |
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rubenwardy |
or would you use seperate entities? |
12:06 |
Jordach |
SHIT |
12:06 |
Jordach |
fuck |
12:06 |
Jordach |
motherfuckin dungeon master ninja'd me |
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Jordach |
*places torch* FUCK |
12:09 |
Jordach |
<DM> sup bro |
12:09 |
Jordach |
anyways, im out for a bit |
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lamefun |
is there an ObjectRef:dead method? |
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lamefun |
sometimes obj:getpos() returns nil and I suspect that's because it's dead |
12:14 |
rubenwardy |
Announcement: Chatplus! adds /ignore and /unignore to the game |
12:14 |
rubenwardy |
coming soon |
12:15 |
rubenwardy |
Also adds an inbox, so players can send messages to you when you are off line |
12:20 |
thexyz |
rubenwardy: coming when? |
12:20 |
rubenwardy |
later today |
12:21 |
thexyz |
okay |
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TheLastProject |
Dungeon Master? Wut? |
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rubenwardy |
I might add highting to chatplus |
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rubenwardy |
*highlighting |
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rubenwardy |
thexyz: https://github.com/rubenwardy/chatplus |
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rubenwardy |
Can a mod unsticky and possibily delete this? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3656 |
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rubenwardy |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6273 |
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rubenwardy |
!title |
13:48 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: [Mod] Chat plus [0.1 -!- ignore] [chatplus] (Page 1) — Modding General — Minetest Forums |
13:51 |
rubenwardy |
Can a moderator move the above topic to releases? |
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rubenwardy |
VanessaE, thexyz, sfan5 |
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sfan5 |
rubenwardy: Dependencies missing |
13:53 |
rubenwardy |
added |
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rubenwardy |
sfan5 :P |
13:54 |
sfan5 |
moved |
13:55 |
rubenwardy |
Thank you |
13:57 |
rubenwardy |
Can you unsticky this, sfan5? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3656 |
13:57 |
rubenwardy |
It is obsolete |
13:58 |
sfan5 |
done |
13:58 |
rubenwardy |
Thanks |
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sfan5 |
TIL github changed its design |
14:03 |
thexyz |
rubenwardy: you forgot to close the file in chatplus.load |
14:03 |
rubenwardy |
ah |
14:04 |
rubenwardy |
fixed |
14:04 |
rubenwardy |
woops |
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rubenwardy |
it is fixed now |
14:05 |
sfan5 |
is there a statistic for the number of forum members on forum.minetest.net |
14:05 |
sfan5 |
? |
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rubenwardy |
see main page |
14:06 |
rubenwardy |
Total number of registered users: 6,067 |
14:06 |
rubenwardy |
lol http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94890#p94890 |
14:08 |
rubenwardy |
Total number of topics: 5,748 |
14:08 |
rubenwardy |
Total number of posts: 87,323 |
14:08 |
PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, you made a mistake, but whatever |
14:09 |
rubenwardy |
huh? |
14:13 |
* rubenwardy |
now has 6 mods |
14:13 |
rubenwardy |
sfan5, it was 3 months since you last updated this:n http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4596 |
14:14 |
sfan5 |
... |
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sfan5 |
enabling mesecons in the configure world menu is a fucking pain in the ass |
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Exio |
enabling mods in that menu is a pita, always |
14:16 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, you can use "Enable all" on modpacks |
14:17 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: it doesn't show that button when the modpack is named the same as an existing mod |
14:19 |
RealBadAngel |
sfan5, can i have your windows build script? |
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RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, we had there code to force blocks to stay loaded, whats about it? |
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rubenwardy |
Skin idea, Jordach: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/File:C55.jpg |
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rubenwardy |
oh, not here |
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14:29 |
RealBadAngel |
https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic_game |
14:29 |
RealBadAngel |
this is going to be main repo for technic_game |
14:30 |
PilzAdam |
the directory structure is wrong |
14:30 |
RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, what do you mean? |
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PilzAdam |
there needs to be a game.conf and mods go into the mods/ folder |
14:31 |
RealBadAngel |
oh shit |
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14:32 |
TheLastProject |
No description? :( |
14:34 |
RealBadAngel |
i just copied wrong level |
14:34 |
RealBadAngel |
dumb me |
14:34 |
PilzAdam |
dumb(RealBadAngel) |
14:35 |
Exio |
poor RealBadAngel |
14:35 |
RealBadAngel |
:P |
14:35 |
Exio |
RealBadAngel: are you actually working with the shaders/lighting?? |
14:35 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
14:36 |
RealBadAngel |
had a little pause, because i moved to a new flat and was cut off from the world |
14:36 |
RealBadAngel |
i mean internet |
14:41 |
RealBadAngel |
damn, LTE is a bit better when uploading |
14:42 |
RealBadAngel |
with cable i had 1mbps upload, now i have 50mbps |
14:43 |
Calinou |
RealBadAngel has LTE? O_o |
14:43 |
Calinou |
enjoy your $150 bill |
14:43 |
RealBadAngel |
not really |
14:43 |
RealBadAngel |
i got fixed plan, 59.90 PLN |
14:44 |
RealBadAngel |
which makes circa 25 USD |
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14:46 |
RealBadAngel |
im not sure if i gonna keep this LTE connection, i have one week for testing |
14:46 |
RealBadAngel |
but so far i do like it |
14:47 |
RealBadAngel |
its really fast |
14:48 |
PilzAdam |
this guy should work as our commit log: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94913#p94913 |
14:49 |
RealBadAngel |
hehe, hire him |
14:51 |
RealBadAngel |
oke doke, looks like directory structure is now ok for technic_game |
14:52 |
PilzAdam |
copy and paste from minetest_game? |
14:52 |
PilzAdam |
(readme, logo, header...) |
14:52 |
RealBadAngel |
at start yes |
14:53 |
RealBadAngel |
i had more things done when i was offline but now i decided to update |
14:54 |
RealBadAngel |
2 weeks being offline changed a lot |
14:55 |
RealBadAngel |
so, i made by now a starting point |
14:56 |
RealBadAngel |
btw, you say that icon is the same? |
14:57 |
PilzAdam |
yes... ? |
14:57 |
RealBadAngel |
i do have bumpmapping and water reflections here |
14:57 |
RealBadAngel |
beat me |
14:57 |
RealBadAngel |
please |
14:57 |
RealBadAngel |
;) |
14:59 |
RealBadAngel |
i have talked to Taoki last night about shaders and lights |
15:00 |
RealBadAngel |
we have agreed that pushing any shaders code, before lights are done doesnt make any sence |
15:00 |
Taoki |
Yeah. very eager to see those up and working :) |
15:00 |
Exio |
the only change |
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15:00 |
Taoki |
Yes. HW lighting shader needs to be done first IMO |
15:00 |
Exio |
i would "do" by now |
15:00 |
Exio |
is making the names not test_ |
15:00 |
RealBadAngel |
speakin of the "devil" :) |
15:01 |
Exio |
what? |
15:01 |
Taoki |
For those who haven't seen the thread BTW. I think I have a code plan for the lighting shader that works. Just needs someone to write the code since I might not have the knowledge to |
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15:01 |
RealBadAngel |
say "Taoki" and she will pop up ;) |
15:01 |
Taoki |
Idea is that every light source should send the param1 of the nodes it affects (or bettersaid, the amount of param1 influence) to the shader |
15:02 |
Taoki |
And use those for range if possible. |
15:02 |
Exio |
PilzAdam / RealBadAngel, bothering you, what do you think about #754? |
15:02 |
RealBadAngel |
direct link? |
15:03 |
Exio |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/754 |
15:03 |
* RealBadAngel |
is lazy ;) |
15:03 |
Taoki |
So each light is sent from MT to the shader under this form: (v3f light_origin, int light_intensity, list[x] nodes_and_param1) |
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15:03 |
RealBadAngel |
not my area of expetize definitely |
15:04 |
Exio |
http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-06-15#i_3142384 |
15:04 |
PilzAdam |
Exio, kahrl has agreed on this? |
15:04 |
Exio |
just for that :P |
15:04 |
Exio |
yep |
15:04 |
PilzAdam |
seems good |
15:04 |
RealBadAngel |
Taoki, we need a limit for light sources aroud |
15:05 |
PilzAdam |
(havent tested the exact same patch as in the pull request, though) |
15:05 |
Taoki |
Can be easy. We get which light is closest to the player and only render X closest |
15:05 |
RealBadAngel |
wait |
15:05 |
RealBadAngel |
there can be many sources around |
15:06 |
RealBadAngel |
torches, laps, turned on machines and the sun |
15:06 |
RealBadAngel |
for example |
15:06 |
RealBadAngel |
*lamps |
15:06 |
Exio |
PilzAdam: it is the same workaround as used actually for freetype in the intlGUIEditBox.cpp:279~ |
15:07 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: Sure. And their lights might also be overlapping |
15:08 |
Taoki |
That's why I said to do this properly, we can send each light source with a list of nodes and the light's param1 influence on them. To make sure each light is applied and limited properly |
15:08 |
PilzAdam |
Exio, seems good then |
15:08 |
RealBadAngel |
yes, but we need somehow to limit number of possible light sources |
15:08 |
Taoki |
So if placing a torch on a block causes that block to get param1 increased by 13, we send the node ID or position + that amount of param1 addition to the shader (with that light). Same for all blocks affacted |
15:08 |
RealBadAngel |
thus, it raises problem which source is more important |
15:08 |
Exio |
near |
15:09 |
Taoki |
That can be done with a simple origin check. A later concern though |
15:09 |
Exio |
for what would you need the light source, anyway? |
15:09 |
Exio |
light source "position" |
15:09 |
Taoki |
Exio: For the hardware light to shine properly from that location |
15:09 |
RealBadAngel |
Exio, answer is "all of it" |
15:10 |
Exio |
hm |
15:10 |
RealBadAngel |
we are makin eye candies |
15:10 |
Exio |
talking about eye candy, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/751 |
15:10 |
Exio |
!title |
15:10 |
Exio |
:P |
15:10 |
MinetestBot |
Exio: Use the console instead of a dedicated window when pressing keymap_chat/cmd by EXio4 · Pull Request[...] |
15:13 |
RealBadAngel |
Exio, eye candie is this: http://i.imgur.com/i692bUl.jpg or http://i.imgur.com/fwWzMMk.jpg |
15:14 |
Exio |
RealBadAngel: just bugging around |
15:14 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: EXio4 commited to minetest/minetest: Add basic unicode support to the console (linux workaround) 93dfc3ec70 2013-06-15T08:09:11-07:00 http://git.io/4_UGAQ |
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RealBadAngel |
Exio, point is i do have lotsa shader code ready, but it needs light sources |
15:16 |
Exio |
i know that, but i just posted my link to bug someone to try it |
15:16 |
RealBadAngel |
without it, its just fakin we do have light |
15:17 |
RealBadAngel |
Exio, i havent even opened this file in geany |
15:17 |
RealBadAngel |
never |
15:18 |
Exio |
aw |
15:18 |
RealBadAngel |
ask me for somethin related to mapblock_mesh.cpp or similar :) |
15:19 |
RealBadAngel |
and i can tell you at which line # is specific piece of code |
15:20 |
sfan5 |
RealBadAngel: ... |
15:20 |
RealBadAngel |
this project has grown so much that single person is not able to know everything |
15:21 |
RealBadAngel |
and i no wonder anymore that c55 gave away rights |
15:22 |
RealBadAngel |
sfan5, yes? |
15:22 |
sfan5 |
you can have it |
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RealBadAngel |
plz plz plz |
15:22 |
RealBadAngel |
i kinda need it |
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15:23 |
RealBadAngel |
my friend's son is playing mt on windows |
15:23 |
RealBadAngel |
and screaming for updates |
15:26 |
RealBadAngel |
btw, offtopic: i got this LTE modem yesterday |
15:26 |
sfan5 |
RealBadAngel: uploading |
15:27 |
RealBadAngel |
it was reallly funny to see girls at the booth face, when i said "sorry, i dont have Windows" |
15:28 |
sfan5 |
RealBadAngel: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30267315/Minetest/minetest-buildbot.zip |
15:28 |
Taoki |
BBL |
15:28 |
RealBadAngel |
sfan5, thx :) |
15:29 |
RealBadAngel |
folks think Windows are the only way |
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sfan5 |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4596 |
15:45 |
sfan5 |
!title |
15:45 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Topics wrongly formatted, missing license, etc.. [Updated: 2013-06-15] (Page 1) — Mod Releases —[...] |
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thexyz |
are adf.ly links allowed? |
15:57 |
sfan5 |
theres no rule against it |
15:57 |
thexyz |
hm.. then we probably need to make one before it's too late |
15:57 |
PilzAdam |
I still dont like it and usually start a shitstorm |
15:57 |
thexyz |
oh! |
15:57 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam->target("http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3003"); |
15:57 |
sfan5 |
!title |
15:57 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: [Game] Dwarves [dwarves] [github] (Page 1) — Minetest Games — Minetest Forums |
15:58 |
VanessaE |
good morning all (or afternoon now I guess) |
15:58 |
sfan5 |
17:58 |
15:58 |
* sfan5 |
wants IPv6 |
15:59 |
VanessaE |
for me anyway :) |
15:59 |
sfan5 |
MinetestBot! |
15:59 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5! |
15:59 |
thexyz |
all image hosts but imgur should be disallowed as well |
16:00 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, move it to modding general, -ND license is not supported |
16:00 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: nah, imageshack and mediafire are ok as long as the people use direct links (yes, mediafire supports direct image links) |
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thexyz |
imageshack sucks because no one uses direct links |
16:01 |
thexyz |
"oh, hi, let me show you this image thumbnailed to 200x100" |
16:01 |
sfan5 |
imageshack is fail, because you need to log in to use the link, but you can simply open the textbox in element inspector and copy the contents |
16:02 |
sfan5 |
s/you need to/they say you need to/ |
16:02 |
thexyz |
"wanna see full size? let me open 10 popups" |
16:02 |
sfan5 |
what about "No thumbnail images, only full size images" |
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16:03 |
thexyz |
sfan5: no |
16:04 |
sfan5 |
whatever, I'm fine with disallowing imageshack |
16:04 |
hmmmm |
probably a good idea, imageshack at one point even had malware on it |
16:04 |
sfan5 |
really? |
16:04 |
sfan5 |
!g news imageshack malwae |
16:04 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: http://www.wowhead.com/news=181747/imageshack-links-installing-malware-blocked-on-wowhead |
16:05 |
hmmmm |
a couple years back yeah |
16:05 |
thexyz |
sfan5: by the way, this is not your browser |
16:05 |
thexyz |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6274 |
16:05 |
thexyz |
!title |
16:05 |
MinetestBot |
thexyz: The Coolness of Being Random (Page 1) — Modding General — Minetest Forums |
16:05 |
thexyz |
â¤â¤â¤ |
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PilzAdam |
mitori, why do you use adfly links? |
16:07 |
mitori |
because they're short? |
16:07 |
mitori |
why do you ask? |
16:07 |
PilzAdam |
I dont like people trying to get money in an open source project |
16:08 |
thexyz |
ugh |
16:08 |
sfan5 |
what about... |
16:08 |
hmmmm |
pilzadam, why not? RMS used to make money off of emacs |
16:08 |
sfan5 |
!sh |
16:08 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Give me an url shorten service and an address |
16:08 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Supported Services: is.gd, v.gd |
16:08 |
sfan5 |
^ these |
16:09 |
thexyz |
what's the point of using shorteners anyway? |
16:09 |
thexyz |
this is not twitter, you're not limited to 140 chats |
16:09 |
thexyz |
*chars |
16:10 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: you forgot to mention one thing |
16:10 |
thexyz |
mitori: Any game or content included therein that disallows derivatives cannot be published on this forum. These include CC NoDerivs and pretty much any closed source licenses. |
16:10 |
mitori |
what. |
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16:13 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam: getting money with open source is fine, but adfly is not |
16:13 |
Calinou |
i'd rather have people making money with open source than closed source |
16:13 |
Calinou |
this is always better |
16:14 |
PilzAdam |
true |
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sfan5 |
Currently online: 38 guests, 14 registered users |
16:16 |
sfan5 |
\o/ |
16:17 |
PilzAdam |
42 16 now |
16:17 |
sfan5 |
*45 |
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mitori |
sfan5 excuse me, but i don't see what you're happy about |
16:18 |
sfan5 |
mitori: about all the people that are online |
16:18 |
mitori |
....okay. |
16:19 |
sokomine |
here in irc or on a mt server? a server with that many users would be impressive |
16:19 |
PilzAdam |
sokomine, forum |
16:19 |
sokomine |
ah, ok |
16:20 |
sokomine |
now get them all to join one server :-) |
16:20 |
PilzAdam |
47 |
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sfan5 |
48 |
16:21 |
khonkhortisan |
^ me |
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khonkhortisan |
or not, I'm logged in. Huh. |
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sokomine |
might have been me. unless i did coult before |
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PilzAdam |
awwww 40 |
16:25 |
khonkhortisan |
37 14 |
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ShadowNinja |
New flood detection techneque: CAPS floods. |
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khonkhortisan |
"SORRY I LEFT MY CAPS LOCK ON" |
16:33 |
* sfan5 |
customized his user agent string |
16:33 |
ShadowNinja |
It is in test mode ATM and it is too lenient. One non-caps character is all it takes currently. |
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khonkhortisan |
so then I can ACCENT my text |
16:34 |
khonkhortisan |
How many caps does it take? |
16:37 |
ShadowNinja |
All currently, what do you think the ratio should be? |
16:37 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: none at all, leave that out. |
16:37 |
khonkhortisan |
I agree, all caps seems fine enough |
16:37 |
ShadowNinja |
Well I can leave it disabled, but I would like to finish it. |
16:38 |
khonkhortisan |
but I think the length of the sentence should matter? |
16:38 |
khonkhortisan |
I |
16:38 |
khonkhortisan |
^ shouldn't get caught |
16:39 |
ShadowNinja |
Catching that is fine, it takes three in a row. |
16:39 |
VanessaE |
maybe 50 capital letters or 75% of the sentence, whichever has a higher count. |
16:39 |
ShadowNinja |
(To trigger a punishment) |
16:39 |
khonkhortisan |
that would be 100% of a single-character sentence |
16:40 |
* khonkhortisan |
ponders how to represent binary in lua |
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ShadowNinja |
Works properly now. Would requiring five messages with too many caps be OK VanessaE? |
16:49 |
ShadowNinja |
(Or just about any reasonable number, it has a history of 1000 messages) |
16:50 |
Calinou |
meh, anticaps sucks |
16:50 |
Calinou |
ShadowNinja: however, make the antispam less strict |
16:50 |
Calinou |
> 5 lines is spam |
16:50 |
Calinou |
3 lines isn't |
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ShadowNinja |
Calinou: Done (for caps). |
16:51 |
Calinou |
talking about antispam, not anticaps |
16:53 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: not spam, flooding |
16:54 |
VanessaE |
spam != too many messages. spam == unsolicited commercial advertizements |
16:54 |
ShadowNinja |
Also done for paste floods, doing it for a repetition flood doesn't seem to make much sense and the other detectors work differently. |
16:54 |
khonkhortisan |
spamflood = both |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: ffrogger _zero_ at yahoo dot com commited to minetest/minetest: Removed a redundant step which degraded performance 0413f8ad9d 2013-06-15T10:41:30-07:00 http://git.io/FozPBg |
17:44 |
Calinou |
cool |
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VanessaE |
New build: 29ef1f84[...] |
18:02 |
VanessaE |
(has pilzadam's flowing liquid CPU-limiter patch) |
18:03 |
Calinou |
TIL ironzorg lives in france |
18:03 |
Calinou |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=525 |
18:03 |
Calinou |
someone bumped that topic |
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iqualfragile |
linux, you no compile faster? |
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18:39 |
Calinou |
y u no use stock kernels |
18:40 |
TheLastProject |
y u use stock kernels |
18:40 |
FreeFull |
iqualfragile: Are you doing a multithreaded compile? |
18:40 |
iqualfragile |
jup |
18:41 |
iqualfragile |
stock kernels, y u no boot faster? |
18:41 |
Calinou |
21 seconds from pressng button to log in |
18:41 |
Calinou |
SURE |
18:41 |
iqualfragile |
i am down to 1.2 secs for user |
18:41 |
TheLastProject |
TWENTY ONE? |
18:41 |
Calinou |
and this is with a msi mobo, by no means the fastest in terms of POST |
18:41 |
iqualfragile |
and kernel takes 5.1 sec |
18:42 |
iqualfragile |
so that needs to be exterminated |
18:42 |
FreeFull |
I remember when booting used to take minutes |
18:42 |
FreeFull |
Minutes! |
18:42 |
TheLastProject |
I'm done after ~11 seconds including my overly high amount of daemons |
18:42 |
Calinou |
sounds like chinese minetest |
18:42 |
iqualfragile |
yeah, windows xp, that were times |
18:42 |
TheLastProject |
Thinking of that, I don't really need MySQL... |
18:42 |
Calinou |
TheLastProject: do you have a SSD? |
18:42 |
Calinou |
are you including POST? |
18:42 |
TheLastProject |
I don't have a SSD |
18:43 |
TheLastProject |
And no, POST has nothing to do with the kernel |
18:43 |
Calinou |
it still makes for most of the boot time |
18:43 |
iqualfragile |
boot time measurements are allways from grub to login, aren't they? |
18:43 |
Calinou |
no |
18:43 |
TheLastProject |
I measure from GRUB to login, at least :P |
18:43 |
Calinou |
boot time almost always includes POST else you are unrealistic |
18:43 |
Matsetes |
Hi! |
18:43 |
TheLastProject |
But the kernel speed has nothing to do with POST |
18:43 |
Matsetes |
Where can I find how to craft dyes? |
18:44 |
FreeFull |
You can make POST faster by flashing a different bios |
18:44 |
Calinou |
or not |
18:44 |
Calinou |
FreeFull: you usually disable unneeded features in BIOS |
18:44 |
Calinou |
some mobos have presets for that |
18:44 |
TheLastProject |
Gimme coreboot :| |
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18:45 |
Calinou |
challenge: put coreboot on a mpower |
18:45 |
Calinou |
:phoronix rolleyes: |
18:48 |
iqualfragile |
finaly done, hope it worked |
18:48 |
iqualfragile |
i realy need to choose an mainboard supporting coreboot next time i buy one |
18:48 |
iqualfragile |
those get to grub in about 3 secs |
18:49 |
Calinou |
lol |
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sfan5 |
Exio: ping |
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Exio |
pong |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #109 from Novatux/mvps_fix c14cb331fe 2013-06-15T12:08:41-07:00 http://git.io/48o7Lg |
19:09 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: Novatux commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix pistons not updating the nodes when placing them again. 6efe579f68 2013-06-15T10:15:43-07:00 http://git.io/LWa0Tg |
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sfan5 |
why the fuck does every program use the slow ftp.gnu.org server? >.< |
19:47 |
iqualfragile |
what kind of program? |
19:47 |
PilzAdam |
my "hello world" program doesnt |
19:47 |
sfan5 |
buildroot |
19:47 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: you know what I mean |
19:48 |
iqualfragile |
you can change that |
19:48 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, nope |
19:48 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: ... |
19:48 |
iqualfragile |
i know what PilzAdam means |
19:48 |
iqualfragile |
#!/bin/bash |
19:48 |
PilzAdam |
:-p |
19:48 |
iqualfragile |
echo "Hello World!" |
19:48 |
khonkhortisan |
that's a script |
19:50 |
Calinou |
sfan5, fast internet is non-free |
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VanessaE |
zzz |
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sfan5 |
VanessaE: ? |
20:52 |
VanessaE |
hm? |
20:52 |
sfan5 |
<VanessaE> zzz |
20:52 |
VanessaE |
just my way of noting that it's gotten quiet in here, in fewer words :) |
20:53 |
VanessaE |
(kinda surprised, it used to be busy as hell this time of day) |
20:54 |
* sfan5 |
thinks about adding a searchable channel log to MinetestBot |
20:55 |
Exio |
i will talk if you highlight me :P |
20:55 |
Exio |
i think i count as idler ^^ |
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20:55 |
* VanessaE |
highlights Exio ... just because. |
20:56 |
Exio |
ew, about what do you me to talk? :P |
20:56 |
VanessaE |
I dunno :P |
20:57 |
sfan5 |
yay! buildroot finished building |
20:57 |
Exio |
what is your cpu sfan5? |
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20:57 |
Exio |
i got the pull request 777 :D |
20:58 |
sfan5 |
Exio: |
20:58 |
sfan5 |
vendor_id: GenuineIntel |
20:58 |
sfan5 |
cpu family: 6 |
20:58 |
sfan5 |
model: 42 |
20:58 |
sfan5 |
model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz |
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Exio |
haha |
20:58 |
sfan5 |
:/ |
20:58 |
sfan5 |
shouldn't ShadowBot ignore me? |
20:58 |
Exio |
no idea |
20:59 |
Exio |
would anyone that plays MT try https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/751 ? |
20:59 |
Exio |
i want comments about the "normal usage" of it |
20:59 |
sfan5 |
hm, should I remove the arm-linux-* symlinks |
20:59 |
VanessaE |
Exio: it takes some getting used to but I like it. |
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PilzAdam |
Exio, there are still some points that can be fixed |
20:59 |
Exio |
PilzAdam: what points? |
21:00 |
PilzAdam |
e.g. if you press Esc dont open the pause menu |
21:00 |
Exio |
already "fixed" |
21:00 |
PilzAdam |
oh |
21:00 |
Exio |
the only thing that i can't "fix" is the f10 bug |
21:00 |
Exio |
:P |
21:00 |
Exio |
but afaik there is a f10-similar bug for the actual chat window |
21:01 |
Exio |
this is sad |
21:01 |
Exio |
downloading the packages takes way more than compiling them... |
21:02 |
Exio |
PilzAdam: what other things? |
21:02 |
Exio |
to "fix" |
21:02 |
Exio |
maybe making the console default alpha value a bit "lower" by default? |
21:04 |
PilzAdam |
what about copy and paste? |
21:05 |
PilzAdam |
well, paste, copy is not so important |
21:05 |
Calinou |
+1 for slightly lower console alphe |
21:05 |
PilzAdam |
no, the alpha is good |
21:05 |
VanessaE |
G*D yes we need working copy&past3e |
21:05 |
PilzAdam |
everyone feel free to adjust it in minetest.conf |
21:05 |
VanessaE |
copy&paste* |
21:05 |
* Calinou |
would like to see an "Advanced settings" button in "Settings", where you could see checkboxes and sliders for ALL settings |
21:05 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, -> lua menu |
21:05 |
Calinou |
VanessaE, gigabyte answers: "Use Windows" :P |
21:06 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, it works if I select the paste in Klipper (the KDE paste program) |
21:07 |
PilzAdam |
(not in the console, though) |
21:08 |
VanessaE |
no way at all to paste into the game for me, though I can copy out from the existing 't' chat/command line dialog. |
21:08 |
VanessaE |
(xfce clipman isn't enough) |
21:09 |
PilzAdam |
\o/ first result when searching "Irrlicht numpad Linux" in ixquick: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/373 |
21:09 |
VanessaE |
and the F10 screen will break even that much - can't even copy out at all from there. |
21:10 |
VanessaE |
supposedly fixed in irrlicht. fat lota good that does us. |
21:10 |
VanessaE |
lotta* |
21:11 |
VanessaE |
noting the date, obviously that fix either never made it to the ubuntu packages or the irrlicht git repo, or it was for a different bug. |
21:11 |
VanessaE |
http://sourceforge.net/p/irrlicht/bugs/247/ |
21:11 |
PilzAdam |
seconf result: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3792 |
21:11 |
PilzAdam |
-f+d |
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VanessaE |
the numpad works perfectly for me in both F10 and the 't' window. |
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PilzAdam |
only 3, 0 and 9 work in the Irrlicht textfields, and no key works in the console |
21:14 |
Exio |
i'm starting my windows vm for testing something |
21:14 |
Exio |
woo |
21:15 |
Exio |
it was a 10 seconds boot |
21:15 |
sfan5 |
Exio: how do I make a static executable with the toolchain? |
21:15 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: for me, the whole numpad works, no issues whatsoever in menus, 't' window, F10... |
21:15 |
Calinou |
VMs boot quicker than bare metal, Exio |
21:17 |
Exio |
sfan5: -static (and -Os -s) |
21:17 |
Exio |
Calinou: i don't count the bios in the system boot time |
21:20 |
Exio |
http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/docu/classirr_1_1_i_o_s_operator.html |
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sfan5 |
good night |
21:26 |
VanessaE |
night |
21:26 |
Exio |
night sfan5 |
21:27 |
Exio |
and, good damnit |
21:27 |
Exio |
getTextFromClipboard is.. returning nothing :( |
21:29 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, why is your server so slow? |
21:29 |
VanessaE |
slow in what way?> |
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21:29 |
VanessaE |
you timed out is why. |
21:30 |
PilzAdam |
it takes ages to connect, and then sending item defs, node defs, and media is _really_slow |
21:30 |
VanessaE |
same old media download slowness as usual |
21:30 |
VanessaE |
I don't use cURL like some do, I consider it a security risk and a stupid hack |
21:31 |
VanessaE |
so you're getting the media the only way MT knows how - through its' slower-than-shit UDP media fetching code :) |
21:31 |
VanessaE |
its* |
21:31 |
PilzAdam |
no |
21:31 |
PilzAdam |
its worse |
21:32 |
VanessaE |
seems normal here |
21:33 |
VanessaE |
nothing out of the ordinary. maybe just normal network lag between you and I? |
21:33 |
PilzAdam |
well, it was always faster |
21:33 |
PilzAdam |
do you have many new mods installed? |
21:34 |
PilzAdam |
and why doesnt Minetest cache meshes? |
21:34 |
VanessaE |
nothing unusual. I added future_ban the other day, that's about it, and of course I keep my game up-to-date |
21:34 |
VanessaE |
ask taoki about that one |
21:34 |
VanessaE |
he's the mesh expert :) |
21:34 |
PilzAdam |
Taoki|away, ping |
21:35 |
Exio |
VanessaE: she* |
21:35 |
Uberi |
PilzAdam: future_ban is brilliant! |
21:35 |
PilzAdam |
Exio, *he |
21:36 |
PilzAdam |
see his youtube videos |
21:36 |
Exio |
k |
21:36 |
VanessaE |
Exio: he. |
21:36 |
VanessaE |
he's said as much,. |
21:38 |
PilzAdam |
WTFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
21:38 |
Exio |
wat!!! |
21:38 |
PilzAdam |
my fucking WLAN |
21:39 |
PilzAdam |
was almost finished with download media |
21:39 |
PilzAdam |
21:37:44: ERROR[main]: Client disconnected |
21:39 |
Exio |
haha |
21:39 |
* PilzAdam |
rages |
21:39 |
PilzAdam |
!kick PilzAdam |
21:40 |
PilzAdam |
MinetestBot! |
21:40 |
MinetestBot |
PilzAdam! |
21:40 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: didn't you publish the cache folder sometime in the past? |
21:40 |
VanessaE |
yep |
21:40 |
VanessaE |
it's a little out of date, but still usable. |
21:41 |
VanessaE |
I'll prepare a fresh one right now. |
21:43 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, can you please reduce the length of your motd? it almost covers the whole 800x600 window |
21:44 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: it's hard enough getting people to fricken read it as it is :-/ |
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21:45 |
VanessaE |
there, the cache download is updated |
21:45 |
Uberi |
maybe more people would read it if it were shorter :P |
21:45 |
PilzAdam |
^ |
21:45 |
PilzAdam |
also, the link in there makes no sense at all |
21:45 |
PilzAdam |
and it says "use 0.4.6" |
21:45 |
VanessaE |
oops |
21:45 |
VanessaE |
ok I'll fix it. |
21:46 |
PilzAdam |
"Version: latest git | Interact priv: ask in forum | No griefing, be polite, use common human sense" |
21:46 |
PilzAdam |
^ there you go |
21:46 |
Menche |
my server hasn't shown up on the serverlist for ages |
21:47 |
Menche |
but it says that it's announcing |
21:48 |
Uberi |
Menche: is the master server address right? |
21:48 |
Menche |
servers.minetest.net |
21:48 |
Exio |
PilzAdam: what is your buildwin32.sh script? |
21:49 |
Menche |
that's serverlist_url, right? |
21:49 |
Uberi |
I think so yeah |
21:49 |
Menche |
it says that it is announcing |
21:49 |
PilzAdam |
Exio, modified version of the buildbot in util/ |
21:49 |
Exio |
can i have it? :P |
21:50 |
PilzAdam |
it wouldnt run |
21:50 |
Exio |
why not? |
21:50 |
PilzAdam |
I have removed the download part and link to already downloaded libs |
21:50 |
Exio |
(just paste it) |
21:51 |
PilzAdam |
it also git pulls in an existing clone of the repo instead of redownloading it all the time |
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VanessaE |
PilzAdam: look now. |
21:51 |
Exio |
that is what i want |
21:51 |
VanessaE |
fuck |
21:51 |
VanessaE |
typo'd |
21:51 |
Exio |
i want to see how you may have implemented that |
21:51 |
Exio |
haha |
21:51 |
Exio |
poor VanessaE :P |
21:52 |
PilzAdam |
I also have splitted it up into 4 scripts |
21:52 |
Exio |
upload all of them, then |
21:52 |
VanessaE |
restarted it. |
21:52 |
PilzAdam |
Exio, *sigh* |
21:53 |
Exio |
hey, i just want to look what you use |
21:53 |
VanessaE |
well, it reads now, "Welcome to VanessaE's server! Using Minetest 0.4.7 (git commit 29ef1f84[...]). Read the server's rules at http://bit.ly/YaWD50" |
21:53 |
VanessaE |
that's as short as it needs to get. :) |
21:58 |
VanessaE |
Matsetes: *poke* |
21:58 |
Exio |
WTF |
21:58 |
Exio |
"Buffering" |
21:58 |
Exio |
... when playing a local file |
21:58 |
Matsetes |
VanessaE: What? |
21:58 |
Uberi |
looks like uptime to me john_minetest |
21:59 |
VanessaE |
sign onto my server so I can protect your house out here at the north end of the town |
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Matsetes |
Oh, dunno if I will continue it |
21:59 |
VanessaE |
why not? :( |
21:59 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, do you think that anyone will ever copy that link? |
21:59 |
Exio |
john_minetest: nah |
21:59 |
Matsetes |
I'm playing in a local server with a friend |
22:00 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: they'd better try, or type it in, if they wanna play on my server |
22:00 |
Matsetes |
VanessaE: And why that sad smile? |
22:00 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: isn't it copyable from the console? |
22:00 |
VanessaE |
Matsetes: ohh.. well still sign in anyway, so I don't have to take ownership of it. I had to rebuild roughly half of it yesterday due to griefing. |
22:00 |
Uberi |
oh wait copy/paste in console |
22:00 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: beats me. |
22:01 |
Matsetes |
VanessaE: Oh, you rebuilt my home ^_^ |
22:02 |
VanessaE |
mmhmm |
22:02 |
Matsetes |
VanessaE: I don't remember the address of the server... |
22:02 |
VanessaE |
vanessae.mine.bz:30000 |
22:02 |
VanessaE |
I don't like to let interesting structures just sit and rot at griefers' hands. |
22:03 |
iqualfragile |
its in the serverlist |
22:03 |
Matsetes |
VanessaE: Thanks a lot in that case |
22:05 |
VanessaE |
Matsetes: done. |
22:06 |
Matsetes |
VanessaE: Wow! I'm not already logged in and it's all completed? =) |
22:06 |
VanessaE |
over where I'm standing is a spot where something was taken that I can't figure out. |
22:06 |
VanessaE |
yeah, all I need is for you to be "online", even if you're still loading :) |
22:06 |
Matsetes |
VanessaE: I'm still loading, I cannot see you |
22:06 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: because of copy&paste issues is why I used a bit.ly link, short enough someone could type it into the browser. |
22:07 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: crashed? |
22:07 |
VanessaE |
Matsetes: oh ok, well you'll see me once you're in (I teleported you to your house) |
22:08 |
VanessaE |
baaaah! :-) |
22:09 |
Exio |
PilzAdam: what is the content of your libs/luajit? |
22:10 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, btw: I have an admin pickaxe, hope you dont mind |
22:10 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, my wlan sucks |
22:10 |
VanessaE |
nope, I seem to recall having given one to you anyway :) |
22:11 |
PilzAdam |
Exio, include/, luajit.dll and liblua.lib |
22:11 |
PilzAdam |
*luajit.lib |
22:12 |
khonkhortisan |
evil pickaxe is close enough |
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22:21 |
Exio |
] 7,370 602B/s eta 34s |
22:21 |
Exio |
that is speed |
22:21 |
Exio |
802 bytes per second |
22:22 |
khonkhortisan |
zoom! |
22:22 |
VanessaE |
oh my, that's breakneck speed! |
22:22 |
khonkhortisan |
they used to think there was a human speed limit |
22:23 |
PilzAdam |
when the first train reached 30 km/h the people placed steel plates arround their heads to protect themselves |
22:24 |
Uberi |
they weren't too far off :P |
22:25 |
Uberi |
judging from the way people drive around here, it's pretty obvious mental illness has got something to do with it! |
22:25 |
PilzAdam |
I think they were right, whole humanity is ill today ;-9 |
22:25 |
PilzAdam |
-9+) |
22:26 |
Uberi |
:O |
22:26 |
Uberi |
brilliant, the cure for madness is to stop eating |
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22:29 |
Exio |
heck yeah |
22:29 |
Exio |
fucking finally compiling MT for windows |
22:30 |
PilzAdam |
inb4 new "Exio's win builds" topic in general |
22:30 |
Exio |
nah |
22:30 |
Uberi |
sounds romantic |
22:30 |
Exio |
i just need windows build for testing if stuff works |
22:30 |
Exio |
and uploading them would be a pain in the ass with my network |
22:31 |
Exio |
you can see my download, guess the upload |
22:31 |
VanessaE |
sure, gimme a sec. |
22:31 |
VanessaE |
they might have gotten caught up in the protection for the roads. |
22:34 |
VanessaE |
OH |
22:34 |
VanessaE |
traxie's arch is in the way eh? |
22:34 |
VanessaE |
I'll fix it. |
22:35 |
Exio |
make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/home/exio4/sources/minetest_win32/libs/gettext/lib/libintl.dll.a', needed by `/home/exio4/sources/minetest_win32/minetest/bin/minetest.exe'. Stop |
22:35 |
Exio |
wat |
22:35 |
Exio |
no, i don't want gettext |
22:35 |
Exio |
:/ |
22:39 |
PilzAdam |
Exio, in buildwin32.sh set -DENABLE_GETTEXT to 0 |
22:39 |
Exio |
i did |
22:40 |
iqualfragile |
ruskie: playing final fantasy, hmm |
22:40 |
VanessaE |
damn it |
22:40 |
Exio |
i rm -rfed the build directory |
22:40 |
VanessaE |
two seconds more and I woulda had his subway stuff protected :-/ |
22:40 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: doesn't protection work for offline players? |
22:41 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
22:41 |
VanessaE |
if they're offline, i can't protect. |
22:41 |
Uberi |
you can probably modify it to do that I bet |
22:41 |
VanessaE |
too lazy :P |
22:47 |
TheLastProject |
Is there any way to change the rendering distance in Minetest? |
22:47 |
PilzAdam |
yes, + and - keys |
22:48 |
TheLastProject |
Hmm, I see "Minimum viewing distance" give another number but I don't see real changes :x |
22:49 |
TheLastProject |
Oh, nevermind |
22:49 |
TheLastProject |
It makes a difference when I hold + |
22:49 |
TheLastProject |
Although I was looking for shorter-than-default. Seems that's not really possible :x |
22:49 |
PilzAdam |
well, hold - |
22:50 |
TheLastProject |
Yeah, but it only goes down to 5 and that was still much further than I was looking for >.< |
22:54 |
Exio |
PilzAdam: do you see a difference when compiling to windows? (in speed) |
22:54 |
Exio |
for a local binary it is way faster |
22:54 |
PilzAdam |
its slower than with gcc |
22:55 |
PilzAdam |
note that I use make -j8 in the script |
22:55 |
Exio |
i changed it to make -j6 |
22:55 |
Exio |
like i always use |
22:55 |
Exio |
god damnit |
22:56 |
Exio |
getting the text from the clipboard... works... |
22:56 |
Exio |
but only on windows |
22:56 |
Exio |
not linux |
22:56 |
PilzAdam |
thats already known |
22:57 |
Exio |
i mean with the api |
22:57 |
Exio |
http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/docu/classirr_1_1_i_o_s_operator.html#a9026ff9f28b48615971e18fcee6fff4c |
22:58 |
Exio |
haha |
22:58 |
Exio |
i see what is the problem |
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23:15 |
VanessaE |
Exio: but can you fix it? :) |
23:15 |
Exio |
i have no *freaking* idea what is going on |
23:15 |
Exio |
when i copy from my windows vm i can "define" the clipboard correctly |
23:15 |
VanessaE |
that would be a 'no' ;) |
23:16 |
Exio |
but when i copy from my firefox, with the mouse or ctrl-c |
23:16 |
Exio |
it changes the clipboard (for the function) to .. nothing |
23:16 |
Exio |
=> what the fuck |
23:16 |
VanessaE |
maybe there's some flag you have to pass to select which clipboard? |
23:16 |
VanessaE |
(since there are two in linux) |
23:17 |
Exio |
i have clipboard-sharing enabled in my vm.. but why does it work and not ctrl-c or selecting text? |
23:17 |
VanessaE |
dunno |
23:18 |
Exio |
i installed clipit and enabled clipboard sharing |
23:19 |
Exio |
https://github.com/malkia/ufo/blob/master/bin/Windows/x86/luajit.dll |
23:19 |
Exio |
that is my actual clipboard |
23:19 |
Exio |
clipboard: 0x258e8e0 |
23:19 |
Exio |
for that function ^ |
23:19 |
Exio |
(%s %p) |
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23:39 |
PilzAdam |
hey Jordach |
23:39 |
PilzAdam |
hey Jordach2 |
23:40 |
Jordach |
oh fuck |
23:40 |
Jordach |
strange |
23:40 |
Exio |
where is Jordach3 |
23:40 |
Exio |
:( |
23:40 |
Jordach |
Exio, nope.avi |
23:40 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, UD 1, Google 0 |
23:41 |
VanessaE |
UD? |
23:41 |
Jordach |
UrbanDictionary |
23:41 |
Jordach |
fucking useful with these damn Reddit terms |
23:42 |
VanessaE |
oh |
23:42 |
Jordach |
mfw = my face when |
23:42 |
Exio |
fml til |
23:42 |
Jordach |
til = today i learned |
23:43 |
Jordach |
i still prefer the Queen's English |
23:43 |
VanessaE |
THAT is what that means!? |
23:43 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, saw the black dress, nice! |
23:43 |
VanessaE |
thanks |
23:43 |
* Jordach |
checks again |
23:43 |
PilzAdam |
<Jordach> i still prefer the Queen's English <- yep |
23:43 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, you could get away as Batgirl |
23:43 |
VanessaE |
oh please |
23:44 |
Jordach |
provided you add a batman symbol |
23:44 |
VanessaE |
no way |
23:44 |
Jordach |
</joke> |
23:44 |
Jordach |
</html> |
23:44 |
Matsetes |
VanessaE: How to make violet dye? |
23:45 |
Jordach |
Matsetes, blue + red |
23:45 |
Jordach |
iirc |
23:45 |
Matsetes |
It gaves magenta |
23:45 |
Jordach |
then add more blue to that |
23:45 |
Jordach |
magenta + blue = violet |
23:45 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, i got worked over by three dungeon masters |
23:46 |
Jordach |
all of them in shadows when i dropped the torch, mfw: OH SHIT |
23:46 |
Matsetes |
Thanks |
23:46 |
Matsetes |
Can coloured wool return blank? |
23:47 |
PilzAdam |
with white dye |
23:47 |
Jordach |
wtf |
23:47 |
Matsetes |
It does not work |
23:47 |
Jordach |
im away for a single day: 70 emails |
23:48 |
Matsetes |
I tried a magenta wool with white dye |
23:51 |
Jordach |
magenta / red + white = pink |
23:51 |
Jordach |
pink + white = white |
23:51 |
Jordach |
(the magenta pink combo shoud happen |
23:51 |
Jordach |
) |
23:53 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, refer to this if calinou says a concatenated string; http://www.urbandictionary.com/ |
23:54 |
Matsetes |
pink + white does not kork |
23:54 |
Matsetes |
*work |
23:54 |
Matsetes |
=( |
23:54 |
Jordach |
hm |
23:54 |
Jordach |
sounds like a bug |
23:54 |
Jordach |
Matsetes, suggestion, only use dyes when needed |
23:54 |
Jordach |
so that there is less waste |
23:55 |
Jordach |
im no particular fan of spare items |
23:55 |
Matsetes |
Yes, I was just trying |
23:55 |
Jordach |
ikr |
23:56 |
Jordach |
nearly forgot the word despair |
23:58 |
Jordach |
which is amazing is im a grammar nazi |
23:58 |
Jordach |
python 2.7.4 > pilzadam.sleep() = true |
23:58 |
PilzAdam |
*I'm |