Time |
Nick |
Message |
00:00 |
telek |
VanessaE: Interesting, it's almost seeming like some sort of lag issue, but the only load on the system is minetestserver. |
00:00 |
jx8p |
"Fix it yourself, the source code is in front of your nose" |
00:00 |
jx8p |
i'm happy to do that where I choose to do so :) but not where compelled to with no reasonable alternative |
00:00 |
telek |
Where have you been hanging out, #gentoo? :D |
00:00 |
mauvebic |
yeah the "Fix it yourself" doesn't jive too well with the other message about needing mainstream acceptance lol |
00:00 |
mauvebic |
as ive frequently pointed out and been banned on lin forums for lol |
00:01 |
mauvebic |
telek they're all like that :p |
00:01 |
harrison_ |
cisoun1 are you related to cisoun? |
00:01 |
harrison_ |
i used to know that guy |
00:01 |
mauvebic |
arch is worst but thankfully they dont fuck around with source so most docs are actually accurate and work lol |
00:01 |
jx8p |
telek - i got a facefull of it when I used ubuntu for a week in 07 :( |
00:01 |
telek |
I'd mind less if they'd stop arbitrarily changing APIs/ABIs |
00:01 |
harrison_ |
he was from the frenchspeaking area of ch |
00:01 |
telek |
jx8p: Oh whee |
00:02 |
jx8p |
Also on Ubuntu. "My wireless card isn't supported" "oh, install these programs only available by compiling from source" "OK, that's a bit steep for a never-used-Linux-before but I guess I can try" |
00:02 |
mauvebic |
or be like "hey alsa's broken, it could use another broken layer, shall we call it, pulse audio?" lol |
00:02 |
telek |
I use some a limited subset of software that most of that stuff I've been able to avoid. |
00:02 |
jx8p |
"OK, install all this junk with apt-get" "I don't have internet access!" |
00:02 |
telek |
'Drag and Drop, what's that?' :D |
00:02 |
harrison_ |
mainstream acceptance lol. not bloody likely. |
00:03 |
telek |
Or how about wine/x-windows not support 8bpp/16bpp anymore, even though a ton of legacy apps require it :D |
00:03 |
jx8p |
not like im gonna take my big tower to my router room and set it up there just to get ethernet a few moments to fix it up << |
00:03 |
mauvebic |
naw linux is pretty much amateur hour 23 hours /day. They never bothered to make a consumption grade OS (maybe ubuntu in 07/08) |
00:03 |
telek |
jx8p: That's where the usb hard disk and rsync come in :D |
00:03 |
jx8p |
It's my opinion that OS X is a bit like Linux-on-the-Desktop if it was executed successfully |
00:03 |
telek |
Nah |
00:04 |
telek |
It's more like 'FreeBSD on the Desktop' |
00:04 |
mauvebic |
i wouldn't mind OS X if it weren't for having to deal w/ apple lol |
00:04 |
mauvebic |
theyre like macrosoft from 90's |
00:04 |
jx8p |
UNIX POWER with ease of use adequate that my granny can use it |
00:04 |
telek |
Y'know if FreeBSD had working ACPI/APM support :D |
00:04 |
jx8p |
great part is telek - i can happily port most freebsd software by simply downloading and compiling. I am future proofed on OS X for a looooong time :) |
00:04 |
mauvebic |
and lately lots of decent linux devs have been quitting over bad design decisions lol |
00:05 |
jx8p |
as long as I can compile the latest GCC, I can compile the latest libraries and the latest software |
00:05 |
mauvebic |
you should have no prob compiling minetest then |
00:05 |
jx8p |
a few points of failure, but they aren't apparent to me yet |
00:05 |
jx8p |
it's just the fear of endianness issues and other fun stuff that often afflicts math-heavy programs |
00:05 |
mauvebic |
im not terribly pleased at the latest fads of deleting features rather than fixing the underlying bugs lol |
00:06 |
jx8p |
also fear of obscure libraries that aren't maintained for PPC and have some problems |
00:06 |
mauvebic |
and VLC saying things like "youre the only one using that feature" pretty much summarizes how much of a joke oss can sometimes be lol |
00:07 |
jx8p |
i get that from more than just OSS sadly mauvebic :( |
00:07 |
mauvebic |
you easily get why most people would rather pay than fuck around forever lol |
00:07 |
mauvebic |
yeah lots of paid software is poorly written too |
00:07 |
jx8p |
every major software package "you're the only one still using powerpc on a desktop" |
00:07 |
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00:07 |
mauvebic |
games you have to buy in pieces now |
00:07 |
jx8p |
lost my favourite browser to that. Opera |
00:08 |
jx8p |
I have had to switch to |
00:08 |
* jx8p |
pained |
00:08 |
jx8p |
firefox |
00:08 |
mauvebic |
heck i bought a computer in 07, 9 months later most linux dists dropped support for my GPU lol |
00:08 |
mauvebic |
had to use the shittiest of drivers and subsequently had to buy a heatsink |
00:08 |
mauvebic |
*better |
00:09 |
jx8p |
> drivers |
00:09 |
jx8p |
that's a major reason i dont trust linux |
00:10 |
mauvebic |
well if they didn't constantly break shit the computer manufacturing industry and support sectors would lose half their staff lol |
00:11 |
jx8p |
computer manufacturers can disappear off the face off the earth for a few years as far as i care |
00:11 |
jx8p |
my powermac g5 is more powerful than most desktops today |
00:11 |
jx8p |
i'd say ~85th percentile in most terms |
00:11 |
mauvebic |
my P4 is still perfectly good for watching Tvs and movies and browsing lol |
00:12 |
mauvebic |
run the servers off the dualcore and all is good |
00:12 |
jx8p |
i really love my g5 quadcore tho |
00:13 |
* Kacey |
loves his little acer |
00:19 |
telek |
Hey how do you check your current coords in minetest? |
00:19 |
telek |
jx8p: PCI Express? |
00:20 |
telek |
If I could ever afford one I'd like one just for 'alternative' gaming. |
00:20 |
telek |
Probably run linux or if DRM support is up to par, netbsd on it. |
00:20 |
jx8p |
PCI-E in the Quadcore, aye |
00:21 |
jx8p |
two full-length 4 lane, one full length 8 lane |
00:21 |
jx8p |
same slots in dual core 2.0 and dual core 2.3 |
00:21 |
jx8p |
but NOT in the dual-processor variants; be ye warned |
00:22 |
telek |
Hey are there new versions of the technic and unified_inventory mods out? |
00:22 |
telek |
Unless it was just lag, it appears those were the two that were causing the crashes on my server. |
00:22 |
jx8p |
i love how there's none of the drama in the MC mod community afflicting Minetest and sincerely hope it remains that way :) |
00:23 |
telek |
What drama is there here? |
00:23 |
telek |
There's like Gloop, and that racist guy from earlier. |
00:24 |
jx8p |
Uhm...Well |
00:24 |
jx8p |
so there's an open-source all-singing all-dancing mod API that has been developed called The Mine-Craft Forge |
00:24 |
jx8p |
and almost all mods are there |
00:25 |
jx8p |
Except for one, because apparently he was upset that another developer had a bunch of stuff useful for her implemented in The Minecraft Forge |
00:25 |
jx8p |
so he left the Minecraft Forge, now the MCF team are re-creating his mod, or something, it's all very silly |
00:25 |
jx8p |
I will let you look up "FlowerChild", "Better with Forge", "Forestry Technic Scandal", and other stuff by yourself |
00:26 |
jx8p |
but it's all a bit silly for a game about making and destroying blocks |
00:26 |
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00:26 |
Gambit |
Eloram was polluting the forge with a ton of hooks and base class modifications specific to her mod. |
00:26 |
Gambit |
FlowerChild felt it should remain more general and keep the number of base class modifications low. |
00:27 |
jx8p |
Is there any way that Forge could accomplish...Anything - without base class modifications in any case? |
00:28 |
jx8p |
And to my best knowledge - Forge is just a wrapper around base Minecraft anyway, trying to match closely the original interfaces and structures, but preventing conflicts by two mods simultaenously modifying the same classes |
00:28 |
Gambit |
Yeah but the modifications should be done to expose elements of the game to the API. |
00:28 |
Gambit |
Not just including half of RedPower inside the forge. |
00:28 |
NakedFury |
so e was mad Eloram was getting a sort of special priviledge and like you said adding Forge stuff just for him/her? |
00:28 |
telek |
OMG |
00:28 |
NakedFury |
so he was mad at* |
00:28 |
telek |
We need vehicles. |
00:28 |
jx8p |
Eloraam is a woman believe it or not :P |
00:28 |
Gambit |
NakedFury: Basically. |
00:28 |
jx8p |
you get woman programmers- woman programmers who are very capable. what a concept, eh? |
00:29 |
telek |
Then somebody needs to recreate 'Apocalypse' in minetest (The old C64 era helicopter game) :D |
00:29 |
NakedFury |
were her stuff done just for her mod or could others use it? |
00:29 |
jx8p |
unfortunately i never saw any specific evidence that the stuff wasn't reuseable NakedFury |
00:29 |
Gambit |
NakedFury: The best analogy I can think of is activeX controls. |
00:30 |
Gambit |
Completely meaningless to everything but Internet Explorer |
00:30 |
NakedFury |
ohh ok |
00:30 |
NakedFury |
yeah I would be mad too, I guess |
00:31 |
jx8p |
I still can't find any hooks that aren't useable generally in some form |
00:31 |
jx8p |
If someone can point it out I would appreciate it |
00:31 |
NakedFury |
doesnt Forge have any alternative words? he could have used another word for the new api |
00:31 |
jx8p |
I maintain the view of course that the generation of drama over it is inappropriate |
00:32 |
Gambit |
I don't know the specifics. I'm just going by what FlowerChild said in his interview about it. |
00:32 |
Gambit |
That was like a year ago. |
00:32 |
NakedFury |
is flowerchild the better than wolves dude? |
00:32 |
jx8p |
yeah NakedFury |
00:32 |
Gambit |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6SN4QQ_WSc <== interview here |
00:32 |
NakedFury |
damn this is old and I never saw it before |
00:32 |
jx8p |
the problem with Flower Child is he was found by the community at large to be interested in generating drama, and got cast out now |
00:33 |
Gambit |
FlowerChild is very... gruff. |
00:33 |
Gambit |
His game design text walls are always very good reads though. |
00:34 |
NakedFury |
yeah specially the text walls part |
00:34 |
NakedFury |
that scares away readers |
00:35 |
jx8p |
http://s9.postimage.org/xrbgn8ycv/borge_banner04.png stuff like THIS is what amuses me |
00:35 |
Gambit |
jx8p: So the example he gives is a hook for sticking things to the sides of cover plates. |
00:36 |
Gambit |
But cover plates only exist in RedPower |
00:36 |
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00:36 |
NakedFury |
im at that part now |
00:36 |
Gambit |
And he says that hook modified many many functions across 13 base class files. |
00:36 |
Gambit |
Whereas he basically wanted Forge to be single player Bukkit. |
00:37 |
jx8p |
The appropriateness of that in Forge does suggest different motives |
00:37 |
jx8p |
I suppose if that, why not hooks to work with other mods? |
00:37 |
Gambit |
Because that's a slippery slope to massive bloating. |
00:38 |
jx8p |
that's a true - I am sure Eloraam wouldn't have been averse to splitting that into a seperate API for Redpower alone though |
00:38 |
jx8p |
Unless she is totally unreasonable, which I'd doubt |
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01:55 |
* Kacey |
is back |
02:34 |
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02:36 |
IisNotLandMine |
Vanessae I hope ur husband dies of his kidney problems |
02:36 |
IisNotLandMine |
That fat fuckin jew |
02:36 |
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02:38 |
NakedFury |
ignorant mediocre mexican |
02:40 |
NekoGloop |
Justice is swift, no? |
02:40 |
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02:41 |
Kacey |
landmine will never learn |
02:41 |
VanessaE |
probably not. |
02:43 |
NakedFury |
not as if his wanted here |
02:46 |
Gambit |
WOW |
02:46 |
Gambit |
So that's how he trolls here? |
02:46 |
NakedFury |
yep |
02:46 |
NakedFury |
all the time |
02:47 |
Gambit |
Jeesh. His crap in #minecraft is nothing compared to that. |
02:47 |
VanessaE |
wait |
02:47 |
VanessaE |
he trolls in #mc also? |
02:47 |
Gambit |
Yeah. |
02:47 |
NakedFury |
what sucks is that we have people that feed his troll hunger |
02:47 |
VanessaE |
can't we just get this guy thrown out of the network entirely? |
02:48 |
Gambit |
His #minecraft trolling usually involves insulting Minecraft and saying how Minetest is awesome and various insults directed at Notch. |
02:48 |
VanessaE |
meh |
02:48 |
Gambit |
Maybe he wanted us to dislike Minetest :s |
02:48 |
VanessaE |
I figured you guys already did :D |
02:49 |
Kacey |
i once trolled #minecraft |
02:49 |
Kacey |
im banned on this ip |
02:50 |
brandy |
I'm sorry he said that to you Vanessa, you can tell he is young and disrespectful |
02:50 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
02:50 |
VanessaE |
shit happens.. |
02:50 |
VanessaE |
I don't worry too much, he's just a troll saying to get any rise he can out of people. |
02:50 |
VanessaE |
/ban and /kick are enough to deal with hi,m |
02:50 |
brandy |
I'm not in here a whole lot thank God, I've never come across anything like that |
02:50 |
VanessaE |
him* |
02:52 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: Most already did, he didn't help much though. |
02:52 |
VanessaE |
indeed.. |
02:53 |
VanessaE |
(thing is, I don't see a reason why anyone should need to hate on MC or MT. Each has its place |
02:53 |
VanessaE |
.) |
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02:54 |
VanessaE |
oops |
02:54 |
brandy |
Well, all that is just blaten disrespect. Fact is, there is no a reason to personally attack someone over the like or dislike of a game. If he were my child, I'd bend him over my knee and pray for his soul |
02:54 |
mauvebic |
there must be a shitload of proxies in mexico lol |
02:55 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: I'll ban the whole fucking class A if I have to. |
02:55 |
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02:56 |
Gambit |
lol |
02:56 |
brandy |
how about this weather? :P |
02:56 |
Kacey |
Gambit, can you unban me please? |
02:57 |
Kacey |
or mode -q |
02:57 |
Gambit |
Maybe. |
02:57 |
hmmmm |
can't you just set up a bot to autoban anybody with the hostmask *LandMine*!*@*? |
02:57 |
Gambit |
Not tonight. |
02:57 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: no, because he changes his user@ also. |
02:57 |
mauvebic |
there are already 2 or 3 which could do such useful things yes lol |
02:57 |
mauvebic |
as well as autokick for certain words |
02:57 |
mauvebic |
like obstreperous |
02:58 |
mauvebic |
:p |
02:58 |
mauvebic |
sp? :/ |
02:58 |
VanessaE |
I wouldn't know how to do that anyway |
02:58 |
mauvebic |
no but sfan5 and iqualifruit could |
02:59 |
hmmmm |
i have that set up in a channel i moderate, irssi on a detached screen session with autoreconnect and trigger.pl to ban on certain criteria |
02:59 |
hmmmm |
i found it to be quite effective |
02:59 |
mauvebic |
there ya go, and its prolly customizable? |
02:59 |
VanessaE |
care to put it into use here? |
02:59 |
hmmmm |
not really |
02:59 |
Kacey |
night all |
02:59 |
hmmmm |
it's not hard to set up, really |
03:00 |
hmmmm |
i just don't want added responsibility for another channel |
03:00 |
mauvebic |
considering we have people competing to run bots that shouldn't be a problem to find here lol |
03:14 |
hmmmm |
LandMine is here |
03:15 |
VanessaE |
where? |
03:17 |
hmmmm |
dunno |
03:18 |
hmmmm |
i guess we just have to go through the process of elimination |
03:18 |
hmmmm |
look for nicks currently here that haven't ever spoken before |
03:20 |
sokomine |
might be difficult. it's a long list of users |
03:34 |
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03:42 |
RealBadAngel |
http://i.imgur.com/vAiRdnZ.jpg lv mv and hv grinders |
03:42 |
VanessaE |
nice |
03:43 |
RealBadAngel |
decided to make all mv tier blueish and hv in green |
03:46 |
mauvebic |
what do they grind? |
03:46 |
VanessaE |
stone -> cobble -> gravel -> dirt |
03:46 |
VanessaE |
er, gravel -> sand -> dirt |
03:47 |
RealBadAngel |
ingots to dusts |
03:48 |
RealBadAngel |
flowers to dyes |
03:48 |
VanessaE |
ok fine, prove me wrong :D |
03:48 |
mauvebic |
like crafting in reverse? |
03:48 |
RealBadAngel |
no, turn one stuff into another |
03:49 |
NekoGloop |
Don't try to make his high-logical-thinking into what it actually is, mauv. |
03:49 |
RealBadAngel |
stone to sand, cobble to gravel |
03:49 |
mauvebic |
transmutation, like bombarding with protons |
03:50 |
RealBadAngel |
NekoGloop, ha ha ha :P |
03:50 |
mauvebic |
would that require a nuclear type reactor or particle accelerator? |
03:50 |
RealBadAngel |
no, its a basic machine |
03:50 |
NekoGloop |
particle compressor, like what would be in glooptest if i wasnt being a lazyass and actually coded the damn thing. |
03:51 |
RealBadAngel |
works like a furnace |
03:51 |
RealBadAngel |
here are recipes: http://pastebin.com/e0egyvkz |
03:52 |
NekoGloop |
The grinder does the same thing it has done for the past 5 months that it has existed. |
03:54 |
mauvebic |
im waiting for a building to spawn... http://www.zimg.eu/i/2148206019 |
03:55 |
mauvebic |
found the bug lol |
04:03 |
mauvebic |
infinity loop, we meet again |
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04:18 |
TheZenKitteh |
anyone here running a linux distro equal to or greater than ubuntu precise/mint 13 that does NOT use an nvidia card willing to help me test a single file portable minetest? (latest dev) |
04:20 |
TheZenKitteh |
if anyone is interested in helping the link is: https://www.dropbox.com/s/70679kg9zwhlvca/Minetest |
04:20 |
TheZenKitteh |
its a single file.. needs to be made executable to run |
04:21 |
TheZenKitteh |
also if you wish it to not use the config under $HOME/.minetest then use the script listed here: http://portablelinuxapps.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=327 |
04:21 |
TheZenKitteh |
I just need to make sure it works without nvidia and preferably on a distro newer than mine |
04:27 |
brandy |
very sad when irc makes you feel dumb lol |
04:27 |
brandy |
i didnt understand hardly any of that |
04:28 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol hey brandy |
04:28 |
brandy |
hey |
04:29 |
brandy |
i dont get any computer talk whatsover, it is far beyond my comprehension |
04:29 |
brandy |
the most technical I get is logging into my account lol |
04:30 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
04:31 |
TheZenKitteh |
well if this works (hope it does) it will allow people to run minetest by downloading one file. executing one file. However I need to test it and refine it till it works right. if fails then ditch it for now |
04:31 |
brandy |
oh i see |
04:32 |
TheZenKitteh |
oh and that's only on linux |
04:32 |
brandy |
well, we have linux and ubuntu but i dont know about any of the rest and i wouldnt have the slightest clue |
04:32 |
NekoGloop |
Well of course |
04:32 |
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04:32 |
TheZenKitteh |
for windows don't know.. likely "portableapps" would suffice for windows |
04:32 |
NekoGloop |
Because fuck windows users, right? |
04:32 |
* TheZenKitteh |
places a kitten on NekoGloops head |
04:32 |
TheZenKitteh |
I don't use windows so cannot help users who use it |
04:32 |
TheZenKitteh |
:P |
04:32 |
brandy |
well, i honestly despise windows and absolutely adore linux |
04:33 |
TheZenKitteh |
my favorite flavor of linux is mint |
04:33 |
brandy |
but i never had a computer in my life until 7 years ago so I dont know a whole lot about them |
04:33 |
TheZenKitteh |
mint with mate |
04:33 |
brandy |
i have no idea what mint is |
04:33 |
mauvebic |
arch-xfce :P |
04:33 |
TheZenKitteh |
my first computer I think was around 1999 or 2000 |
04:33 |
mauvebic |
my first computer cost that much lol |
04:34 |
mauvebic |
and it was considered cheap lol |
04:34 |
kizeren |
Arch-kde/blackbox |
04:34 |
TheZenKitteh |
my first computer was $255 |
04:34 |
brandy |
i got my first when i married my husband and he is a computer geek, he had 4 of them when i met him and i didnt even know how to get on the internet lol |
04:34 |
mauvebic |
more than that even |
04:35 |
TheZenKitteh |
since about 2006 I've never had to purchase a computer. plenty of people throw out perfectly good ones (usually in need of better software.. aka linux) |
04:35 |
brandy |
speaking of the devil, kizeren is my husband |
04:35 |
TheZenKitteh |
btw hello mauvebic and kizeren |
04:35 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
04:35 |
brandy |
thats what my husband does, he fixes them for a living, does programming and maintenance and all that computer geek stuff lol |
04:36 |
kizeren |
hi |
04:36 |
brandy |
he's always bringing home computers, servers and tons of computer parts, they're everywhere |
04:36 |
* TheZenKitteh |
does same (concerning the bringing home computers) |
04:37 |
mauvebic |
ha! it works! :D |
04:37 |
mauvebic |
minetest millenaire: |
04:37 |
TheZenKitteh |
I don't repair computers for money however.. however might should consider it |
04:37 |
mauvebic |
http://www.zimg.eu/i/2364777286 |
04:37 |
TheZenKitteh |
what works mauvebic? |
04:37 |
mauvebic |
to http://www.zimg.eu/i/1979246152 |
04:37 |
mauvebic |
to http://www.zimg.eu/i/2855317067 |
04:37 |
mauvebic |
and finally http://www.zimg.eu/i/2164914346 |
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mauvebic |
it should now be possible to actually cover a whole map in city :D |
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* TheZenKitteh |
must have missed some parts of convo prior to my arrival |
04:41 |
brandy |
idk, but i need a server to play on bf i go crazy |
04:41 |
mauvebic |
well millenair is autospawning random buildings on MC :p |
04:41 |
mauvebic |
my buildings aren't so crappy so it should be better lol |
04:42 |
TheZenKitteh |
brandy what happened to the server you and your husband had? |
04:44 |
kizeren |
Its still there. |
04:45 |
jojoa1997 |
!up minetest.org 30018 |
04:45 |
Minetest-tan |
minetest.org:30018 seems to be down |
04:45 |
* jojoa1997 |
grrr |
04:45 |
jojoa1997 |
mauvbic i have been trying to see your world |
04:48 |
mauvebic |
on 30019? |
04:48 |
jojoa1997 |
!up minetest.org 30019 |
04:48 |
Minetest-tan |
minetest.org:30019 seems to be down |
04:48 |
jojoa1997 |
still same |
04:49 |
brandy |
server hates me today for some reason and keeps kicking me off |
04:50 |
mauvebic |
oldocder told me he'd have to take the worlds down, i still dont have any kind of decent node protection on local otherwise id open that up for visits |
04:50 |
brandy |
well, he's transsferring it to vps which he said will take 2 to 3 days |
04:50 |
jojoa1997 |
just make the default privs fast,fly,shout |
04:50 |
jojoa1997 |
and you have to grant the interact priv |
04:50 |
brandy |
i was playing on his server until yesterday |
04:52 |
jojoa1997 |
mauvbic you are an awsome builder. wanna help me with my hunger games server |
04:52 |
mauvebic |
yeah but not tonight, still got lots of kinks to work out MTcities/millenaire lol |
04:52 |
mauvebic |
i have to scan a bunch of buildings and see if they respawn ol |
04:52 |
jojoa1997 |
ok could you join real quick so i can give privs |
04:53 |
mauvebic |
i dont have time to build on other servers :/ can hardly keep up with pull request requests lol |
04:53 |
mauvebic |
eating for the first time today lol (its midnight) |
04:53 |
jojoa1997 |
ok well just keep making awsome mods |
04:54 |
mauvebic |
i should be at it all night :D thanks :p |
04:54 |
mauvebic |
i think, 3 pots of coffee today? not sure lol |
04:54 |
jojoa1997 |
mauvebic where do you live? |
04:54 |
TheZenKitteh |
well im off for the night, ttyl rest up |
04:54 |
mauvebic |
Quebec canada |
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jojoa1997 |
ah |
04:54 |
jojoa1997 |
bye |
04:55 |
jojoa1997 |
mauvebic USA Florida |
04:55 |
jojoa1997 |
for me |
04:55 |
mauvebic |
ahh, if we had that kind of weather here i wouldn't be modding lol |
04:55 |
brandy |
ikr |
04:56 |
brandy |
we live in the state of cant make up it's mind |
04:56 |
NekoGloop |
is that michigan? |
04:56 |
brandy |
went from 70 dg to 9 dg to 40 dg in 3 days |
04:56 |
brandy |
Misery P |
04:56 |
jojoa1997 |
ha that is nothing |
04:56 |
brandy |
:P |
04:57 |
jojoa1997 |
in florida went from 37 to 95 |
04:57 |
mauvebic |
whats funny is every year they act like its the worst snow season - like that somehow excuses sloppy snow removal or busses not running on time... im like, where the fuck have they been living their whole lives? lol |
04:57 |
jojoa1997 |
once the sun rose |
04:57 |
brandy |
wow, it gets that cold in Florida? |
04:57 |
jojoa1997 |
only during the winter |
04:57 |
jojoa1997 |
about 3-10 days a year |
04:57 |
jojoa1997 |
and randomly spread |
04:58 |
brandy |
hmmm |
04:58 |
brandy |
we live in Missouri |
04:58 |
mauvebic |
we had -45 (c) two weeks ago :p |
04:58 |
brandy |
it's always different weather from day to day |
04:58 |
jojoa1997 |
but it will be freezing in the morning but once the sun comes up i start sweating |
04:58 |
brandy |
yeah |
04:58 |
brandy |
you can never tell what season it is except for by the trees |
04:58 |
jojoa1997 |
that is why i always dress in shorts and a light jacket no matter how cold |
04:59 |
brandy |
lol |
04:59 |
brandy |
that is our motto here, "If you dont like the weather, wait a day, and it will change: |
04:59 |
brandy |
" |
04:59 |
jojoa1997 |
true floridian = -3 degress and flip flops/shorts/no jacket |
04:59 |
mauvebic |
lol people here get pretty crazy when its slightly above 9c, they start dressing for heatwaves lol |
04:59 |
jojoa1997 |
execpt no -3 |
04:59 |
brandy |
wow lol |
05:00 |
jojoa1997 |
it is weird |
05:00 |
jojoa1997 |
people wear jeans and jackets on a summer day |
05:00 |
jojoa1997 |
but do the same during a winter one also |
05:00 |
mauvebic |
whereas id prolly find too hot lol |
05:00 |
mauvebic |
went to orlando in 94, jesus the humidity lol |
05:01 |
Exio |
here i have like 17 C currectly and it is cold |
05:01 |
jojoa1997 |
bye gtg to sleep |
05:01 |
brandy |
yeah, we have horrible humidity here during the summer, its like florida weather and i've been to florida |
05:01 |
brandy |
tc |
05:01 |
Exio |
some days ago we had over 36~37 C (nearly 40 sometimes) |
05:01 |
brandy |
wow |
05:02 |
jojoa1997 |
you aint seen humidity until you have seen key west |
05:02 |
mauvebic |
eventually when my mother *moves on* im gonna move to the west coast, winter + SAD bad combo lol |
05:02 |
jojoa1997 |
it might be 90 outside but the fell is above 100 |
05:02 |
brandy |
well, i've only been out of state when i would go over the road with my father as a child bc he was a truck driver, but that was a long time ago |
05:03 |
jojoa1997 |
*feal |
05:03 |
jojoa1997 |
bye |
05:03 |
mauvebic |
my father worked for one of the big petroleum companies, weve been all over the atlantic provinces lol |
05:03 |
Exio |
100? 90? |
05:03 |
Exio |
F? |
05:03 |
mauvebic |
when he brought me on business trips |
05:04 |
mauvebic |
though sometimes he fooled me and we really went across the border to get a trunk full of cheap booze lol |
05:04 |
brandy |
yeah, i've never been out of state on vacation, i did get to see some amazing places but most of the time, i was in his rig |
05:04 |
mauvebic |
"dad why we bringing blankets?" "in case it gets real cold" lol |
05:04 |
brandy |
wow |
05:05 |
mauvebic |
back then alcohol was cheaper in ontario, now its the opposite but is still illegal lol |
05:05 |
brandy |
i see |
05:05 |
NekoGloop |
Everything is illegal |
05:06 |
brandy |
I wouldnt know, I'm not an alcohol drinker, i only drink on mine and my husband's anniversary and i drink wine |
05:06 |
Exio |
for what i can see 100 F is 37~38 C but 90 F is 32~ C |
05:08 |
Exio |
what is the "normal temperature" of places where do you live in summer? |
05:09 |
Exio |
(i think average is a better word for what i mean, but meh) |
05:09 |
kizeren |
Hm....last summer was around 32C |
05:10 |
kizeren |
Winters.....maybe around -10C |
05:10 |
mauvebic |
in the summer it can reach 42c here |
05:10 |
Exio |
where do you live? |
05:10 |
kizeren |
Midwest USA |
05:11 |
Exio |
that temps look perfectly values, not too cold, not too warm ^^ |
05:12 |
kizeren |
Humidity is what kills most people around here. |
05:12 |
brandy |
yeah, thats what i was saying earlier |
05:13 |
mauvebic |
swampass at the dollar store - ugh lol |
05:13 |
mauvebic |
especially when all you went for is coffee filters lol |
05:14 |
kizeren |
Yep. |
05:14 |
Exio |
16.4 C Humidity: 64% (here) |
05:14 |
Exio |
very cold for a summer, but well, it is night, :P |
05:14 |
kizeren |
Ours in the summer is normally above or around 90% |
05:14 |
Exio |
oh |
05:15 |
Exio |
i get what you meant |
05:15 |
brandy |
yeah, its really bad |
05:15 |
kizeren |
Walk outside and the sweat starts pouring off you. Can't breath most of the time in the summer. |
05:15 |
brandy |
yeah, its seriously mosquito haven in the summer here |
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mauvebic |
hey Oldcoder :) |
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OldCoder |
Hi! |
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mauvebic |
hows it going? |
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OldCoder |
mauvebic, PM |
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Infinity_69 |
hi |
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Infinity_69 |
i need help with the footer :/ |
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Infinity_69 |
can somebody help? |
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Infinity_69 |
hello? |
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Infinity_69 |
ugh, nvm -.- |
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babe223 |
hello |
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babe223 |
? |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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babe223 |
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marktraceur |
babe223: Hi! What's up? |
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Minetest-tan |
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16:00 |
LandMine |
Hi everybody :-( I'm sorry for my recent behavior |
16:02 |
celeron55 |
fuck you and your mom - oh i'm sorry about that beginning of the line |
16:02 |
celeron55 |
8D |
16:02 |
landmineOGR |
Ohh hai celeron55 lol |
16:03 |
landmineOGR |
Haven't seen u in. While |
16:03 |
landmineOGR |
Since that nice pm we had |
16:03 |
celeron55 |
i think i have talked to you on this channel once after that one |
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16:04 |
landmineOGR |
I don't think so I would remember |
16:04 |
landmineOGR |
Hey c55 make me OP :-) |
16:07 |
celeron55 |
ops are $1000 each today |
16:08 |
* shirish |
wondering if anybody saw kaeza today or in last couple of days on the channel ? |
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16:09 |
landmineOGR |
Do u accept moneybookers? Celeron55......nad shirish check out the logs u should be able to see there |
16:09 |
shirish |
landmineOGR: there are logs of this channel kept ? or do you mean in my IRC client ? |
16:10 |
celeron55 |
see the topic |
16:10 |
shirish |
landmineOGR: forget that last query. |
16:10 |
shirish |
celeron55: just saw it. |
16:11 |
landmineOGR |
Your welcome shirish :-) |
16:11 |
celeron55 |
apparently kaeza was last here on 2013-02-01 |
16:11 |
shirish |
celeron55: thanx. |
16:12 |
celeron55 |
john_minetest: i only accept postal letters full of cash |
16:12 |
celeron55 |
delivered today |
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landmineOGR |
Do u accept monopoly currency? |
16:13 |
celeron55 |
for monopoly ops, yeah |
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landmineOGR |
Well celeron55 we will take later...calinou just showed up |
16:23 |
celeron55 |
landmineOGR: what are you going to do today? |
16:24 |
landmineOGR |
Well...gonna go to pay mi trucks licence plates |
16:25 |
landmineOGR |
Then go get a medical certificate |
16:25 |
landmineOGR |
So I can go apply for a job |
16:25 |
landmineOGR |
Cause my semester is over |
16:25 |
landmineOGR |
And I enter school in a month and a half |
16:26 |
landmineOGR |
that will take most of my day |
16:26 |
landmineOGR |
How about urself celeron55 |
16:27 |
* VanessaE |
wanders in. |
16:29 |
landmineOGR |
Hi vanessae ......why were u banning me yesterday?? |
16:30 |
VanessaE |
Ohh gee I wonder why. |
16:31 |
VanessaE |
[02-03 18:31] <LandMine> This fuckin channel is so full of niggers jews and failures it could be used as a stunt double for vanessae vagina |
16:31 |
VanessaE |
[02-03 21:36] <IisNotLandMine> Vanessae I hope ur husband dies of his kidney problems |
16:31 |
VanessaE |
THAT is why. |
16:31 |
landmineOGR |
Same....u know hmmmm was right...I was here all the time |
16:31 |
landmineOGR |
And I know that's why....forgive me |
16:31 |
VanessaE |
no. |
16:31 |
landmineOGR |
I don't know what happened |
16:32 |
VanessaE |
how many times are you gonna do that kind of shit and then turn around and ask for forgiveness? |
16:33 |
landmineOGR |
Its been once with u |
16:33 |
landmineOGR |
Marktraceur knows why |
16:33 |
landmineOGR |
Ask him in pm |
16:33 |
VanessaE |
once hell. try three times just yesterday. |
16:33 |
VanessaE |
four rather, counting both incidents in this channel (the other two in two other channels) |
16:34 |
marktraceur |
landmineOGR: What's up man? |
16:34 |
landmineOGR |
Still I asked for forgiveness...its ur choice if u accept it or not |
16:35 |
landmineOGR |
Nothin much mark |
16:35 |
VanessaE |
it's also YOUR choice whether or not to make such disgusting, hateful statements. |
16:36 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Nobody would blame you for continuing to kickban on sight, but I think it's worth a shot to let him stick around a bit. |
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VanessaE |
marktraceur: unless he has Turrette's or something, I don't see why I should tolerate that kind of shit every time he shows up. |
16:37 |
VanessaE |
hey Calinou. |
16:37 |
* Calinou |
disabled hyperthreading to test something |
16:37 |
Calinou |
hi |
16:37 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: your test failed ;) |
16:37 |
Calinou |
why :P |
16:37 |
VanessaE |
jk |
16:37 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: I agree; it makes sense to let him stick around *until* he starts being an ass. |
16:38 |
VanessaE |
mmmh |
16:38 |
VanessaE |
if you say so. |
16:38 |
landmineOGR |
:-) |
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khonkhortisan |
What is this called? I'm sure it's common enough to already have a name http://postimage.org/image/s9ejow0jv/ |
16:46 |
VanessaE |
looks like a latch |
16:46 |
Calinou |
heh, I have better FPS in minetest |
16:46 |
Calinou |
when I run unlimited, X eats 93% of one CPU, lol |
16:46 |
VanessaE |
or a one-shot multivibrator maybe? |
16:47 |
PilzAdam |
grrrr... /me doesnt like the US simbols |
16:47 |
khonkhortisan |
For the output to be on, the side must turn on, the input must turn off, and the input must turn on again. |
16:47 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: from left to right are a NOT, 5-in OR, and two ANDs. |
16:47 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: a D-type latch |
16:48 |
khonkhortisan |
5-in is just because of the program I'm using |
16:48 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, I know them, but I simply dont like them |
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VanessaE |
oh ok |
16:49 |
landmineOG |
STPUID WIFI |
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landmineOG |
Oldcoder u there? |
16:55 |
khonkhortisan |
It's nearly a D-latch except the clock turning off turns off Q |
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rubenwardy |
hi all |
16:56 |
landmineOG |
Hi :-) |
16:57 |
khonkhortisan |
hello |
16:58 |
rubenwardy |
wuu2? |
16:58 |
rubenwardy |
what are you up to? |
16:58 |
rubenwardy |
(what are you doing?) |
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khonkhortisan |
hi markv |
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markveidemanis |
Hia |
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landmineOG |
Hey |
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landmineOG |
!up |
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Minetest-tan |
landmineOG: Give me a Server Address |
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markveidemanis |
VanessaE |
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markveidemanis |
where are the start menu files in linux |
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khonkhortisan |
misc/minetest.desktop |
17:09 |
markveidemanis |
nothing to do with minetest |
17:09 |
khonkhortisan |
Comment=Multiplayer infinite-world block sandbox |
17:10 |
khonkhortisan |
I don't know where it goes when it's installed |
17:10 |
markveidemanis |
on the bottom left, the stary menu |
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markveidemanis |
start |
17:10 |
markveidemanis |
wheres that |
17:10 |
rubenwardy |
It is called "Dash Board" in Ubuntu |
17:11 |
markveidemanis |
k |
17:11 |
rubenwardy |
http://complete-concrete-concise.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/ubuntu-experience-dash-icon.png |
17:11 |
markveidemanis |
no... |
17:12 |
markveidemanis |
Lubuntu |
17:12 |
markveidemanis |
and i need the root files |
17:12 |
rubenwardy |
open home |
17:12 |
markveidemanis |
/home |
17:12 |
rubenwardy |
and go to .minetest (there is a drop down item called "goto" somewhere) |
17:12 |
mauvebic |
these 'automatic reports' are little annoying, at least if they were accurate |
17:13 |
markveidemanis |
Right... |
17:13 |
markveidemanis |
i installed a program... |
17:13 |
markveidemanis |
that added a folder to the start menu...i need to delete that |
17:13 |
khonkhortisan |
menu editor is good enough |
17:14 |
PilzAdam |
mauvebic, games should go into the Minetest Game section in the forum |
17:14 |
PilzAdam |
not in Mod Releases |
17:15 |
PilzAdam |
and the correct prefix is [Game] |
17:15 |
markveidemanis |
where do screenshots go |
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markveidemanis |
nvm, i found |
17:17 |
mauvebic |
pretty retarded but wtv changing it back |
17:18 |
markveidemanis |
menu://applications/ |
17:18 |
markveidemanis |
but cant delete |
17:18 |
PilzAdam |
mauvebic, what? |
17:18 |
PilzAdam |
its not a modpack, its a game |
17:18 |
PilzAdam |
why do you call it modpack? |
17:19 |
* markveidemanis |
just remembered sudo rm |
17:19 |
mauvebic |
A) ill call it what i like :-) |
17:19 |
mauvebic |
b) this constant dicking around with perfectly good threads when there's so much real crap to trim, but wtv lol |
17:19 |
mauvebic |
i need coffee |
17:20 |
PilzAdam |
mauvebic, just ask a moderator to move it to Minetest Games and everything will be fine |
17:21 |
mauvebic |
besides do you seriously think i have nothing better to do than move my thread back and forth depending on what type of downloadsi happen to offer that week? |
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rubenwardy |
Top 20 of Mods/User: |
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rubenwardy |
1. PilzAdam 18 Mods |
17:21 |
mauvebic |
naw im keeping it as 'modpack', you can run the mods indiv, or as a pack, or as a game |
17:22 |
PilzAdam |
Ãn this case dont add a game.conf |
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mauvebic |
there ain't a game or modpack.txt |
17:22 |
markveidemanis |
HELP!!! |
17:22 |
markveidemanis |
Where does lubuntu read for the start menu (the root files) |
17:22 |
PilzAdam |
there is a game.conf in the latest download wich means that its a game |
17:23 |
PilzAdam |
if it isnt, remove game.conf |
17:23 |
PilzAdam |
if it is, move the thread to Minetest Games |
17:23 |
PilzAdam |
markveidemanis, where not #ubuntu here |
17:23 |
PilzAdam |
*were |
17:23 |
mauvebic |
keeping it as is |
17:23 |
markveidemanis |
i *May* be banned from ubuntu |
17:24 |
mauvebic |
i dont recommend fucking around with my threads over technicalities |
17:24 |
markveidemanis |
But not lubuntu... |
17:24 |
markveidemanis |
Yet |
17:24 |
PilzAdam |
mauvebic, dont get me wrong, I dont really care about your threads |
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PilzAdam |
but I just want to explain how to do it 100% correctly |
17:25 |
mauvebic |
i know, there's the minetest way, and there's my way lol |
17:25 |
mauvebic |
ask rba :p |
17:25 |
mauvebic |
i dunno its not you, its just those reports that irk me lol |
17:26 |
* PilzAdam |
wonders if we should adverties the translation page in the forum (http://translate.minetest.ru/projects/minetest/core/) |
17:26 |
mauvebic |
i meant if a bot is gonna do the moderating, why do we need the moderators? llol |
17:27 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: #lxde or something |
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17:37 |
Jordach |
LOLOLOLOLOLOL http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=68261#p68261 |
17:38 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
17:38 |
mauvebic |
lol |
17:39 |
mauvebic |
hi |
17:39 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: Be nice! :) |
17:39 |
Jordach |
marktraceur, ...and? |
17:40 |
mauvebic |
oldocoder check this out: http://www.zimg.eu/i/909339371 simcity style spawning lol |
17:40 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: e.g. don't laugh at the noobs just because they're noobs |
17:40 |
celeron55 |
marktraceur: see how IRC is mentioned in the main post on the thread :P |
17:40 |
mauvebic |
likwid sounds more like one of the trolls we all know so i doubt he's/she's/it's a noob |
17:46 |
mauvebic |
does this even work? https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQrLzYE82x1C9JTb08tKeNpEt33vkYSGezlt9FkRk5sij2gchbh |
17:47 |
NakedFury |
mauvebic the game image you posted, what are the blue blocks for? |
17:47 |
NakedFury |
spawning effects? |
17:47 |
mauvebic |
dont call it a game image ill have to waste all day arguing its not lol |
17:47 |
mauvebic |
the blue blocks are like simcity tiles |
17:48 |
mauvebic |
they spawn random buildings |
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17:48 |
mauvebic |
you define a lot by dimensions |
17:48 |
mauvebic |
/lot 20 50 20 |
17:48 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Whoa, that's a cool site. |
17:48 |
mauvebic |
and ittl find something that fits |
17:48 |
NakedFury |
when you define lots, are the full of the blue blocks or do they only appear to spawn a building? |
17:49 |
mauvebic |
the blue blocks spawn to prevent people from building/digging there |
17:49 |
marktraceur |
Unless it's not what I think, which is possible. |
17:49 |
mauvebic |
right now i have the abm set real low though buildings shouldn't all spawn at the same time lol |
17:49 |
mauvebic |
well mark either you wanna have a serious discussion or you just wanna wordplay, im willing to be serious |
17:50 |
mauvebic |
oh and nakedfury, did you see the new paysage? (terrain guns) |
17:50 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: It looks like it's a new data-URI scheme, but it might just be a different way to index a database. |
17:50 |
NakedFury |
not yet, been trying to not play games at all to focus on classes and fix my sleeping hours |
17:50 |
marktraceur |
I can't find any documentation on it, though |
17:51 |
mauvebic |
marktraceur, what are you talking about? |
17:51 |
mauvebic |
Nakedfury i understand that, i sleep on average 3-4 hours a night lol |
17:51 |
mauvebic |
though check this out (for fun) : http://www.zimg.eu/i/3761206682 |
17:51 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: The link you just posted to a tbn:* URI. |
17:51 |
mauvebic |
i implemented most of the changes you suggested |
17:52 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: I'm not sure whether it's an actual data URI or just some kind of index. |
17:52 |
mauvebic |
i still dont get what you are talking about marktraceur |
17:52 |
NakedFury |
trying to go to sleep at 12 am to get up early. not easy end up staying on the bed for hours |
17:53 |
mauvebic |
lol nakedfury even when i do sleep i have these weird ass dreams all night, i wake up more tired than when i started lol |
17:53 |
mauvebic |
marktraceur, what uri, what are you talking about?? |
17:53 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQrLzYE82x1C9JTb08tKeNpEt33vkYSGezlt9FkRk5sij2gchbh |
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17:53 |
mauvebic |
oh that, its just an image..? |
17:54 |
mauvebic |
i was curious if it still worked (the mod behind it) because its always one of the first results in google search lol |
17:54 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Possibly. The image data *could* be encrypted in the tbn: URI in the q query parameter |
17:54 |
mauvebic |
most of the google results seems to be very old mapgen lol |
17:54 |
marktraceur |
Which would be cool. |
17:54 |
marktraceur |
But I can't find any information about the URI scheme |
17:55 |
mauvebic |
i dunno i havent done webdev in a few years i cant imagine how much more uselessly complex its become lol |
17:55 |
mauvebic |
by now i expected they would have invented object-oriented html or something equally daft lol |
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17:57 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: HTML *is* object-oriented |
17:57 |
marktraceur |
In fact, it's just objects |
17:58 |
mauvebic |
i doubt tim berners lee had OO in mind when he designed it tho |
17:58 |
marktraceur |
Well, no. |
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17:58 |
marktraceur |
But when you're coming up with a markup language, you bloody well think of objects |
17:58 |
marktraceur |
Hence, Document Object Model |
17:58 |
mauvebic |
i remember PHP's first implementation of OO , lol, that was 'fun' lol |
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17:59 |
mauvebic |
had OO even caught on as much when HTML1 came around? |
18:00 |
mauvebic |
of course back then they told us the web would run on java (the false saviour) lol |
18:00 |
marktraceur |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-oriented#History |
18:00 |
marktraceur |
Seems so |
18:00 |
mauvebic |
early 90's there wasn't much talk of it though |
18:01 |
mauvebic |
if anything people wanted higher level languages |
18:01 |
marktraceur |
Only because everyone was still stuck on C, I suspect... |
18:01 |
mauvebic |
still are last i checked :p |
18:02 |
mauvebic |
people always seem to go back to C/Cpp |
18:02 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Well, and C++ is object-oriented |
18:02 |
marktraceur |
And came out in 1983 |
18:02 |
mauvebic |
like distributions you try a new for awhile and you're excited, then you realize you were better off and go back lol |
18:02 |
marktraceur |
So by 1990 I'd imagine it had some following |
18:02 |
mauvebic |
by stroupsoup or something like that? |
18:03 |
marktraceur |
Stroustrup, yeah |
18:03 |
mauvebic |
yeah, i read one of his/her books, ghastly |
18:03 |
mauvebic |
publishing companies should proofread teaching books to make sure they're not incredibly long CV's with lots of code examples and no explanations lol |
18:03 |
marktraceur |
His :) |
18:04 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Well, he was probably trying to document the language more than anything |
18:04 |
mauvebic |
his whole book is basically "look what i can do" and doesn't explain how lol |
18:04 |
mauvebic |
naw it was called "learning C++" |
18:04 |
mauvebic |
misnomer |
18:05 |
mauvebic |
screw expensive books though, there are more capable teachers willing to write free tutorials or answer questions on stackexchange |
18:06 |
marktraceur |
Yeah |
18:06 |
marktraceur |
Clearly higher education exists because of a fluke |
18:06 |
marktraceur |
:) |
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18:06 |
mauvebic |
especially stackexchange, whoever set that up had a stroke of genius |
18:06 |
mauvebic |
higher education is a mill, and no garantee of a good job |
18:06 |
Calinou |
<askubuntu.com seal of approval> |
18:06 |
mauvebic |
*guarantee |
18:07 |
mauvebic |
heck, higher education is no guarantee of competence either lol |
18:08 |
marktraceur |
I can vouch for that. |
18:08 |
marktraceur |
Having gone to a school that specialized in questionable competence. |
18:08 |
mauvebic |
what sucks is if you wanna study programming you prety much have to leave quebec since the schools are five years behind in what they teach you, and in french lol |
18:09 |
Calinou |
if only it was |
18:09 |
mauvebic |
ive been to some schools... they dont even care if youre interested they just wanna sign you up for a student loan |
18:09 |
Calinou |
it's a funny paradox: low education == no job, no education == no job, high education == no job |
18:09 |
mauvebic |
kinda reminds me of that period during the mid 2000's where i got a new credit card in the post every month (before the big crash lol) |
18:10 |
Calinou |
lol |
18:10 |
* Calinou |
makes a credit card cluster, puts 10000 of them |
18:10 |
Calinou |
still worse than an atom D: |
18:11 |
mauvebic |
schools in N.A. are hopeless antiquated in their approach to teaching |
18:11 |
mauvebic |
worse still, some school boards think by buying every student an ipad, the technology by itself will somehow improve grades |
18:11 |
mauvebic |
and they use my fucking taxes for that when i dont have kids and cant afford an ipad at full price lol |
18:12 |
mauvebic |
and they still cant do math or write for shit lol |
18:12 |
marktraceur |
Wow. |
18:12 |
mauvebic |
when i went to school our computerlab was hopelessly out of date lol |
18:13 |
mauvebic |
i still learned to program |
18:13 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Maybe there's an anti-trust suit in there somewhere....government favouring one company over others or something |
18:13 |
mauvebic |
yeah but who wants to take on apple, the schoolboards and the gov't? lol |
18:13 |
mauvebic |
ive had enough court for the past year |
18:13 |
marktraceur |
Sounds like fun to me |
18:13 |
Traxie21 |
Samsung wants to take on apple |
18:13 |
marktraceur |
That combined with a suit against Adobe would be one hell of a lot of fun |
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18:14 |
markveidemanis |
Hi |
18:14 |
mauvebic |
apple is an american industry |
18:14 |
mauvebic |
the only reason samsung lost |
18:14 |
markveidemanis |
Really? |
18:14 |
mauvebic |
they held the trial in the same city where apple is HQ'ed right? |
18:14 |
markveidemanis |
**sherlock |
18:14 |
mauvebic |
how many jury members would vote to do damage to the local economy? lol |
18:14 |
Calinou |
marktraceur: come to france! some schools are currently deploying "Bic" tablets |
18:14 |
Calinou |
:> |
18:15 |
Traxie21 |
Samsung didnt lose |
18:15 |
Sh1fty |
yeah, because what will help education is technology :D |
18:15 |
mauvebic |
what would help education is sacking bad teachers who are only countings the few years to retirement |
18:15 |
Sh1fty |
and apple kinda got screwed with that verdict |
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18:15 |
Sh1fty |
mauvebic, yup |
18:16 |
Sh1fty |
and reducing the amount of testing |
18:16 |
mauvebic |
also seperating the no futures (music, sports, art) from the hard sciences (math, chem, phys) |
18:16 |
Sh1fty |
that's a bad idea |
18:16 |
Sh1fty |
it's called tracking and it doesn't really work |
18:17 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, i have a better idea |
18:17 |
sokomine |
it's not so that the older teachers are bad. they can be very good teachers as well |
18:17 |
mauvebic |
i would have rather gone to a school that specialised in hard sciences instead of football |
18:17 |
Sh1fty |
sokomine, not older teachers, bad teachers |
18:17 |
sokomine |
ok, that's diffrent then |
18:17 |
Sh1fty |
mauvebic, that's not the same |
18:17 |
Jordach |
i could wire my neurons into my pc and live as an ai |
18:17 |
Sh1fty |
i went to a great trade school |
18:18 |
Sh1fty |
but that was choice, not tracking |
18:18 |
mauvebic |
whats worse is they put all the kids the same age in the same grades, regardless of how slow or fast each learn |
18:18 |
sokomine |
one teacher's approach might work best for some pupils while another teacher works better for other ones. it may be hard to tell who's good :-( |
18:18 |
mauvebic |
in HS i *never* attended class except to write and ace exams (99~100%) |
18:19 |
Sh1fty |
i liked classes in HS |
18:19 |
Sh1fty |
and i never had to study at home |
18:19 |
Traxie21 |
I'm glad I was homeschooled :3 |
18:19 |
* Calinou |
highfives Traxie21 |
18:20 |
* Jordach |
bitch slaps Calinou |
18:20 |
Jordach |
NO! |
18:20 |
mauvebic |
my school was in an area where all anglos thought they were artists lol so i had incentive to skip |
18:20 |
* Jordach |
is heading to university soon |
18:21 |
Sh1fty |
Jordach, prepare to be disappointed :D |
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18:21 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: FWIW college is great. |
18:22 |
Calinou |
prepare not to be appointed :D |
18:22 |
* Calinou |
looks at Sh1fty |
18:23 |
mauvebic |
i must be slightly dyslexic since i keep reading that name as 'shitfly' |
18:23 |
mauvebic |
:/ |
18:23 |
Sh1fty |
:D |
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18:26 |
mauvebic |
i need to add random material replacement |
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18:34 |
markveidemanis |
marktraceur |
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18:35 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: Yes? |
18:35 |
markveidemanis |
^ |
18:35 |
markveidemanis |
LandMine |
18:35 |
markveidemanis |
i thought...[...] |
18:35 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: He's been behaving. I'll deal with him if he acts out. |
18:35 |
markveidemanis |
ok |
18:35 |
marktraceur |
LandMine: Welcome, how are you? :) |
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18:36 |
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LandMine was kicked by thexyz: LandMine |
18:36 |
markveidemanis |
So, how are you, LandMine? |
18:36 |
ruskie |
heh |
18:37 |
markveidemanis |
LOL... |
18:38 |
markveidemanis |
/mode #minetest +b |
18:38 |
marktraceur |
TheLastProject: Why'd you do that? |
18:38 |
markveidemanis |
all by marktraceur... |
18:38 |
marktraceur |
Oops, sorry |
18:38 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Why'd you do that? |
18:38 |
marktraceur |
TheLastProject: Misping, sorry |
18:38 |
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18:38 |
markveidemanis |
!up minetest.org |
18:38 |
Minetest-tan |
minetest.org:30000 seems to be down |
18:39 |
markveidemanis |
I know, Right? |
18:40 |
markveidemanis |
thexyz |
18:41 |
markveidemanis |
next time use chanserv so you are undetected |
18:41 |
* marktraceur |
sighs |
18:41 |
marktraceur |
That wasn't my point |
18:41 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: because. |
18:41 |
markveidemanis |
He is evil |
18:41 |
markveidemanis |
^ |
18:41 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Not a great reason....he appears to be softening a bit |
18:41 |
thexyz |
I won't believe him |
18:42 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: same thing happened a while ago |
18:42 |
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18:42 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Well, it doesn't make sense to ban someone because of things they've done before. |
18:42 |
marktraceur |
I mean, existing bans should stand. But no reason to continue to kickban. |
18:42 |
mauvebic |
LM? |
18:42 |
marktraceur |
Yeah. |
18:42 |
markveidemanis |
And dont you forget it... |
18:42 |
markveidemanis |
Once... |
18:42 |
mauvebic |
meh,if he hasnt learned by now |
18:43 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: fine, unban him if you wish to |
18:43 |
markveidemanis |
He kept kicking me |
18:43 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: I won't mess with your decisions either. I just thought I'd ask why. |
18:43 |
markveidemanis |
http://servers.minetest.ru/ |
18:44 |
marktraceur |
Though "because" isn't very convincing. |
18:44 |
markveidemanis |
Congratulations to Ttyh Minetest Server for achieving 100% uptime |
18:44 |
markveidemanis |
*Heh* |
18:44 |
markveidemanis |
WTF its a minecraft server lol |
18:46 |
markveidemanis |
go to #op |
18:46 |
Jordach |
op, idiot# |
18:46 |
op |
chanserv op #op op |
18:46 |
op |
lol |
18:46 |
* Calinou |
enabled HT again |
18:46 |
Calinou |
no HT = sound lag |
18:46 |
Jordach |
oh yes, hyperthreading |
18:46 |
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18:46 |
Calinou |
I lose 200 FPS in minetest though :P |
18:47 |
Calinou |
(840 vs 1050 when unfocused on MT window) |
18:47 |
Traxie21 |
Guys, does anyone have any idea how to use the minetest.get_pointed_thing_position? |
18:47 |
Calinou |
(see bug I reported about focusing on MT window) |
18:47 |
markveidemanis |
whoops... |
18:48 |
* Jordach |
considers doing science! |
18:48 |
markveidemanis |
i need a creative server |
18:49 |
markveidemanis |
oh god... |
18:49 |
markveidemanis |
plz dont blow up the moon |
18:49 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: Will you be alive? |
18:49 |
Jordach |
somewhat |
18:49 |
markveidemanis |
i know its pointless, but its pretty |
18:49 |
markveidemanis |
and i want tides |
18:50 |
Traxie21 |
Guys, does anyone have any idea how to use the minetest.get_pointed_thing_position? |
18:50 |
Traxie21 |
</repetitive> |
18:50 |
markveidemanis |
H²O² |
18:50 |
mauvebic |
http://ows.edb.utexas.edu/sites/default/files/users/schen/IMG_2015.JPG |
18:50 |
markveidemanis |
H²O, Too |
18:50 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: Wrong |
18:51 |
ruskie |
hehe |
18:52 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: Hâ‚‚O |
18:52 |
marktraceur |
Damn public school system. |
18:52 |
markveidemanis |
lol you had to use character map |
18:52 |
markveidemanis |
¹²³ |
18:52 |
markveidemanis |
all i got |
18:52 |
* marktraceur |
is perfectly happy with character map |
18:52 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: I'm not going to waste my time by explaining. Too bad you cannot figure it yourself. He's not going to change |
18:52 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Thanks |
18:53 |
Calinou |
COH COH COH COH! |
18:53 |
* Calinou |
dies from suffocation |
18:53 |
marktraceur |
Organic IRC. |
18:53 |
marktraceur |
(Farm fresh!) |
18:53 |
Traxie21 |
So no one knows how to use minetest.get_pointed_thing_position()? |
18:53 |
marktraceur |
cccccombo breaker? |
18:54 |
marktraceur |
Traxie21: Look at the docs |
18:54 |
Traxie21 |
Uhh yea... |
18:54 |
Traxie21 |
They arent very helpful in any way |
18:54 |
mauvebic |
traxie look at the rotate screwdriver in technic |
18:54 |
khonkhortisan |
I can type this straight from my keyboard Hâ‚‚O |
18:54 |
marktraceur |
Traxie21: Really? So if I grep for get_pointed_thing I won't find anything? |
18:54 |
markveidemanis |
łøł |
18:54 |
markveidemanis |
UH OH!!! |
18:54 |
Traxie21 |
You will find one thing |
18:55 |
khonkhortisan |
H compose _ 2 O |
18:55 |
markveidemanis |
this is minetest channel... |
18:55 |
khonkhortisan |
łoł |
18:55 |
markveidemanis |
dont be physics nerds |
18:55 |
Traxie21 |
minetest.get_pointed_thing_position(pointed_thing, above) ^ Get position of a pointed_thing (that you can get from somewhere) |
18:55 |
khonkhortisan |
Græy |
18:55 |
Calinou |
khonkhortisan: what layout do you use? |
18:55 |
* Calinou |
uses alternative french |
18:55 |
markveidemanis |
Græy |
18:55 |
Calinou |
here is your copyright sign: © |
18:55 |
Calinou |
altgr+C |
18:55 |
mauvebic |
traxie, look at rotate screwdriver in technic, it uses pointed_thing |
18:55 |
Calinou |
windows can't do that :D |
18:55 |
khonkhortisan |
programmer dvorak. I also have a compose button. |
18:56 |
Jordach |
Calinou, screw you |
18:56 |
Jordach |
altgr + c pauses my media player |
18:56 |
Calinou |
azerty breaks a lot of games on linux though |
18:56 |
Calinou |
Jordach: clementine ftw |
18:56 |
Jordach |
Calinou, .ogg ftl |
18:56 |
marktraceur |
Traxie21: What don't you understand about that? |
18:56 |
khonkhortisan |
®, ©, & ™ |
18:56 |
Traxie21 |
I tried it, and it always returns nil or crashes the game |
18:57 |
Traxie21 |
local pos = minetest.get_pointed_thing_position(pointed, true) minetest.env:remove_node(pos) |
18:57 |
Calinou |
clementine reads MP3s too |
18:57 |
khonkhortisan |
Please don't use a qwerty-derived layout on a keyboard that can't jam. |
18:57 |
mauvebic |
how is that different from any other tool that digs? |
18:57 |
Traxie21 |
Its called on command |
18:57 |
marktraceur |
Traxie21: If you do get_pointed_thing() and then get that thing's position, does that change the behaviour? |
18:57 |
Traxie21 |
let me check |
18:58 |
markveidemanis |
¢ |
18:58 |
khonkhortisan |
I made right alt my altgr and shift right alt my compose button |
18:58 |
khonkhortisan |
ß |
18:58 |
khonkhortisan |
¿qué? |
18:58 |
Traxie21 |
marktraceur: attempt to call field minetest.get_pointed_thing , a null value. |
18:58 |
Calinou |
Trax¡e21 :> |
18:58 |
Calinou |
anti-highlight |
18:59 |
Traxie21 |
:L |
18:59 |
markveidemanis |
clear |
18:59 |
markveidemanis |
damn |
18:59 |
markveidemanis |
who wants to talk about science and keyboard layouts? |
18:59 |
* Calinou |
just did 8 frags in a row on AC |
18:59 |
markveidemanis |
Go to #mtmt |
18:59 |
Calinou |
team survivor on ac_desert, 1vs8, I win |
18:59 |
* Calinou |
did an headshot-noscope |
18:59 |
markveidemanis |
Calinou |
18:59 |
khonkhortisan |
minetest.(insert "env:" here)get_pointed_thing |
18:59 |
markveidemanis |
what server |
19:00 |
Calinou |
search "Calinou" |
19:00 |
marktraceur |
Hm, what was the name of it. |
19:00 |
Calinou |
F3 to search, while in server list |
19:00 |
marktraceur |
Oh right |
19:00 |
marktraceur |
Traxie21: Isn't get_pointed_thing going to be a method on an entity object? More specifically, a player? |
19:00 |
Traxie21 |
No, on a block |
19:01 |
Calinou |
while we're talking about pointed things |
19:01 |
* Calinou |
pokes a random C++ programmer to add more accurate "pointed thing" |
19:01 |
khonkhortisan |
worldedit can't //stack 2x2 microcontrollers. Which mod do I complain to? |
19:01 |
Calinou |
so that I can develop my secret stairs+ feature |
19:04 |
mauvebic |
i wish lua tables worked like php tables: string and number keys lol |
19:04 |
mauvebic |
instead i have to double down :( lol |
19:04 |
Calinou |
lol markveidemanis got banned |
19:04 |
Calinou |
poor markveidemanis :( |
19:04 |
mauvebic |
good lol |
19:05 |
Calinou |
20 minute ban (vote banned) |
19:05 |
mauvebic |
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/34293810.jpg |
19:05 |
Calinou |
lol |
19:05 |
Calinou |
^ AMD GPU owners' face when new driver is released |
19:05 |
markveidemanis |
i thought F1 voted no!! |
19:05 |
markveidemanis |
i voted for myself to be banned |
19:06 |
mauvebic |
naw i found nvidia and ati drivers that work as expected, you can update them when im dead lol |
19:06 |
mauvebic |
only the netbook now has shitty artifacts when playing mt |
19:07 |
markveidemanis |
Cmon, join #mtmt |
19:07 |
markveidemanis |
to be nerdy |
19:07 |
thexyz |
+q |
19:08 |
markveidemanis |
-Q |
19:08 |
marktraceur |
Traxie21: Not what it returns, what you call it from |
19:08 |
marktraceur |
Shouldn't it be Player:get_pointed_thing and not minetest.get_pointed_thing? |
19:08 |
Calinou |
mauvebic: 313.18 has noticeable performance improvements over 304.51 and opengl4.3 support :P |
19:08 |
markveidemanis |
TEST |
19:09 |
mauvebic |
nvidia? |
19:09 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: What the hell? |
19:09 |
markveidemanis |
TEST for +q |
19:09 |
markveidemanis |
dont help |
19:09 |
marktraceur |
Allow me |
19:09 |
mauvebic |
i have 304.64 |
19:09 |
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19:10 |
mauvebic |
if only i could test drivers without permanently fucking my install |
19:10 |
mauvebic |
but its either you install and x breaks, or it works lol |
19:10 |
Traxie21 |
Oh, yea |
19:10 |
khonkhortisan |
backup? |
19:10 |
Calinou |
mauvebic: yes |
19:10 |
khonkhortisan |
it is like that, you either lose display and are stuck with text mode, or you're not |
19:10 |
thexyz |
Traxie21: http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.get_pointed_thing_position |
19:10 |
Calinou |
they work for me :P |
19:11 |
Calinou |
zero bugs |
19:11 |
mauvebic |
you could backup, but i'd rather request sane testing and update practices lol |
19:11 |
Calinou |
did not backup anything before doing it |
19:11 |
markveidemanis |
I'm BORED |
19:11 |
Traxie21 |
I know xyz |
19:11 |
marktraceur |
Chew on that for a while |
19:11 |
khonkhortisan |
I think I had a double kernel install and the nvidia installer got confused |
19:11 |
Calinou |
I backup my /home bi-weekly or so just for the lulz, other than that |
19:11 |
thexyz |
Traxie21: what's the problem then? |
19:11 |
Traxie21 |
Nil value |
19:11 |
Traxie21 |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=68282#p68282 |
19:11 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: It's super great that you've chosen us to help eliminate your boredom |
19:11 |
mauvebic |
i dont see a point in backing up anymore lol the drive i backed up most of my shit to died |
19:11 |
Calinou |
only javascript developers point to nil. |
19:12 |
PilzAdam |
Traxie21, answered |
19:12 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis: Just don't do it in such an annoying, off-topic, 12-year-old way. |
19:12 |
Calinou |
mauvebic: my external HDD is 7 years old and is 200GB only :P |
19:12 |
Calinou |
it still works! |
19:12 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: I think that answer should be added to wiki |
19:12 |
mauvebic |
at least it was easy to unplug, its the drive with the wide, flat connector lol (pata?) |
19:13 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, rather add the code from builtin/item.lua to the wiki |
19:13 |
mauvebic |
even with boot on sdb, the system kept trying to boot the older drive lol |
19:13 |
Traxie21 |
Pilz, that makes sense, but I still have no idea how to get the position into a variable |
19:13 |
mauvebic |
linux mint kept changing /sda and /sdb on every boot so i dumped it 2 yrs ago lol |
19:14 |
mauvebic |
(they simply told me not to combine sata and pata drivers,,,, abit late lol) |
19:14 |
mauvebic |
*drives |
19:14 |
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19:14 |
mauvebic |
the oss solution to not spending money on software: spending more on hardware lol |
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19:15 |
MarkVeidemanis |
Hi |
19:15 |
MarkVeidemanis |
i care not for caps |
19:15 |
Calinou |
lol mauvebic, except for graphics cards ;-) |
19:16 |
mauvebic |
lol true but how many bug reports end with developers blaming hardware lol |
19:16 |
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19:17 |
mauvebic |
even with previously working features, 'buy linux compat hardware" lol |
19:18 |
* Calinou |
buys a digitally-controlled PSU |
19:18 |
Calinou |
must be fun under linux |
19:18 |
Calinou |
*looks at corsair AX1200i* |
19:18 |
* Calinou |
also buys software-controlled watercooling |
19:18 |
Calinou |
overheat in 5 seconds :> |
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19:19 |
marktraceur |
So much fun. |
19:20 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
19:20 |
mauvebic |
especially vlc lol 2.0 broke most of the features that made it better than the other free players, ubuntu should hire them lol |
19:20 |
Calinou |
weird, markveidemanis and MarkVeidemanis both have been banned, and noone blamed POSIX standards |
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19:20 |
* Calinou |
trolls about case-insensitive filesystems being da win |
19:20 |
mark____1 |
Hello |
19:20 |
marktraceur |
mark____1: Care to apologize? |
19:21 |
OldCoder |
mark____1, go ahead |
19:21 |
mark____1 |
Im sorry |
19:21 |
Calinou |
I'm* |
19:21 |
mauvebic |
should get a list of proxies and ban all the hosts |
19:21 |
mark____1 |
"'" makes no difference |
19:21 |
ruskie |
Calinou, irc is case insensitive |
19:21 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Not necessary |
19:21 |
mark____1 |
i can you next door |
19:21 |
ruskie |
Calinou, the problem is the different ip/host/ident |
19:22 |
marktraceur |
mark____1: What? |
19:22 |
mauvebic |
i know the whole time i lived next to a cafe i kept spoofing my MAC and getting free wifi lol |
19:22 |
VanessaE |
ruskie: which can be partially solved by banning entire network segments or entire domains if necessary |
19:22 |
ruskie |
VanessaE, yup |
19:23 |
mauvebic |
in most neighbourhoods there are some unsecured wifi too, but the chances a neighbour of a player plays mt is slim |
19:23 |
mauvebic |
and you prolly dont want more of that type anyhow lol |
19:23 |
khonkhortisan |
"Your wifi signal was trespassing on my property and interfering with my internet connection" |
19:24 |
MarkVeidemanis |
irc IS case sensitive |
19:24 |
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19:24 |
MarkVeidemanis |
window kill 2 |
19:24 |
MarkVeidemanis |
Whoops, irssi |
19:24 |
Sh1fty |
:D |
19:24 |
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19:24 |
mauvebic |
and then theres always the freenode web interface |
19:25 |
ruskie |
but web interfaces are easy to ban |
19:25 |
VanessaE |
I wonder how long it'll be before we start banning that, too |
19:25 |
mauvebic |
so yeah, unless you rig a bot to recognize and kick him every time... |
19:25 |
mauvebic |
which aint hard |
19:25 |
marktraceur |
Yup. In fact, I banned two of his IPs that were accessing from the web interface. |
19:25 |
marktraceur |
In any case, I take it nobody has had any issue with me cutting markveidemanis down a few notches? |
19:26 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
19:26 |
mauvebic |
if sfan5 can rig a bot to scan the forums then it can certainly pick up on certain other words in IRC |
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19:26 |
MarkVeidemanis99 |
why cant i use qwebirc but can use irssi |
19:26 |
ruskie |
because your normal host hasn't been banned yet |
19:27 |
Calinou |
irssi with a graphical interface == pointless |
19:27 |
marktraceur |
MarkVeidemanis99: Why do you think I've banned you? |
19:27 |
marktraceur |
Just as an educational exercise. |
19:27 |
MarkVeidemanis99 |
so i have to face the horrors of command line irc |
19:28 |
marktraceur |
Not really, no |
19:28 |
MarkVeidemanis99 |
but i still have to |
19:28 |
mauvebic |
it makes him feel special : http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZTXYghCNzo8/UBoelLw3Q6I/AAAAAAAAANo/1_aQ6C2frcw/s1600/homer.jpg |
19:28 |
marktraceur |
Hint: You did something, and then I banned you several times. |
19:28 |
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19:28 |
marktraceur |
What do you figure you've done? |
19:28 |
MarkVeidemanis99 |
"I'm BORED" ? |
19:29 |
marktraceur |
MarkVeidemanis99: More generally? |
19:29 |
markveidemanis9 |
spammed |
19:29 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis9: Exactly. |
19:29 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis9: Also, your hostnames are banned, not your username. You can be normal markveidemanis. |
19:29 |
markveidemanis9 |
[19:29] == #minetest Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned |
19:29 |
marktraceur |
Hm. |
19:30 |
markveidemanis9 |
and im using the other account in a better client |
19:30 |
markveidemanis9 |
i know the reason.. |
19:30 |
khonkhortisan |
You are banned twice |
19:30 |
markveidemanis9 |
in irssi i am cloaked |
19:30 |
markveidemanis9 |
in qwebirc there is no cloak |
19:30 |
mauvebic |
then we'll ban the romulans and klingons too |
19:31 |
ruskie |
hint: you're not cloaked |
19:31 |
markveidemanis9 |
whois markveidemanis |
19:31 |
khonkhortisan |
you |
19:31 |
markveidemanis9 |
whois markveidemanis9 |
19:32 |
marktraceur |
markveidemanis9: You're cruising for another ban |
19:32 |
khonkhortisan |
markveidemanis is |
19:34 |
marktraceur |
Sigh. |
19:35 |
thexyz |
oh, well |
19:35 |
thexyz |
he came to #freenode |
19:36 |
marktraceur |
Wow. |
19:36 |
marktraceur |
Trying to appeal? |
19:38 |
ruskie |
ops won't interfere with chanops/chanowners |
19:38 |
marktraceur |
Probably not, unless there's some big problem |
19:39 |
khonkhortisan |
If only there was a sideways microcontroller |
19:40 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: definitely would be useful, particularly with the presets |
19:41 |
Sh1fty |
what do you mean by sideways? |
19:41 |
VanessaE |
Sh1fty: rotated |
19:42 |
khonkhortisan |
Instead of building a circuit on the horizontal plane, building it on a vertical one. |
19:42 |
VanessaE |
if placed on the side of a block, it would require a whole new set of mesecons wires .... the sheer number of nodes... |
19:42 |
VanessaE |
grvalt |
19:42 |
VanessaE |
gevalt* |
19:42 |
khonkhortisan |
If I have a pixel display, it's easier to do logic on a row than it is on a column |
19:43 |
khonkhortisan |
Yeah, minetest doesn't support full rotations with a single node. |
19:43 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: of course, now that I think about it, it wouldn't be *that* hard to make it connect vertically... |
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19:43 |
VanessaE |
since we already have vertical mesecons. |
19:44 |
VanessaE |
it'd just have to have two of its ports near the bottom of the node (say A and C, and B pointing up and D down) |
19:46 |
khonkhortisan |
I just updated and got vertical mesecons, insulated corners, and - command? |
19:46 |
VanessaE |
command block |
19:46 |
VanessaE |
executes a server command on receipt of a mesecon signal. |
19:46 |
khonkhortisan |
ooh cool |
19:47 |
VanessaE |
I think anyway |
19:47 |
VanessaE |
I've never used it (in fact, it is disabled on my server) |
19:47 |
khonkhortisan |
How do I connect the bottom of a vertical mesecon? |
19:48 |
VanessaE |
which reminds me, new map just a couple days ago. Want me to copy your frame animation minecarts thingy over to it? |
19:48 |
VanessaE |
(about 2/3 of all other structures have been copied already) |
19:49 |
VanessaE |
place the vertical wire, then place a regular horizontal wire next to it I think |
19:49 |
VanessaE |
I don't use them much |
19:50 |
khonkhortisan |
I've completely surrounded it in wire and it doesn't light up |
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19:51 |
khonkhortisan |
I see the four-way was removed. |
19:51 |
khonkhortisan |
It wasn't dependable |
19:52 |
VanessaE |
hrm |
19:53 |
VanessaE |
I'm sure it'll be brought back sooner or later though |
19:53 |
VanessaE |
as for the vertical wires... |
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19:54 |
khonkhortisan |
oh just stack them |
19:55 |
VanessaE |
that's a bug then |
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19:55 |
VanessaE |
you shouldn't need to stack them to get them to connect to the neighboring wire |
19:55 |
VanessaE |
(I just tried it) |
19:55 |
VanessaE |
(it acts the same for me as for you) |
19:56 |
VanessaE |
of course, I'm not running the latest git of mesecons since that'll break a bunch of stuff that I'm not ready to mess with yet :-) |
19:56 |
* Jordach |
installs assult cube and warzone 2100 |
19:56 |
khonkhortisan |
like bobblocks |
19:56 |
VanessaE |
bobblocks has been fixed already |
19:57 |
khonkhortisan |
and 2x2 microcontrollers |
19:57 |
khonkhortisan |
oh |
19:57 |
rubenwardy |
Slideshows via bbcode: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/viewmod.php?id=63 |
19:57 |
VanessaE |
technic too, but I don't know that it's stable yet |
19:57 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, it is stable again |
19:57 |
VanessaE |
2x2 µC's? |
19:57 |
khonkhortisan |
there's a download on the mesecons website |
19:57 |
khonkhortisan |
but worldedit can't //stack them |
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19:58 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, nice cutoff point: http://i.imgur.com/SC6LSY6.png |
19:58 |
VanessaE |
I wonder how useful it is. |
19:59 |
VanessaE |
I really should upgrade some of this stuff huh |
19:59 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
19:59 |
rubenwardy |
Jordach: it is a cover vs fit problem |
20:00 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: you never answered my question... |
20:00 |
rubenwardy |
should it be fitted so that you can see all of the image, or should it cover all of the panel? |
20:00 |
rubenwardy |
that is the question |
20:00 |
rubenwardy |
latter looks better |
20:03 |
rubenwardy |
what does everyone think of this mod icon: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=68283#p68283 |
20:04 |
Jordach |
how about no |
20:04 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
20:04 |
Jordach |
horrible |
20:05 |
rubenwardy |
my thought as well |
20:05 |
Jordach |
shall i render a nice large 3d chest? |
20:06 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
20:06 |
rubenwardy |
do you like my idea? |
20:06 |
Jordach |
yup |
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khonkhortisan |
VanessaE, I don't know of any frame animation minecarts thingy |
20:15 |
rubenwardy |
gtg. |
20:15 |
rubenwardy |
jordach: post the image on the forum page when u are done |
20:15 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: remember, you built a structure on my server where the player jumps into a cart and rides past several windows cut into dirt, with objects behind the windows that are arranged like an animation? |
20:15 |
VanessaE |
and I showed you how to rig a one-way track |
20:15 |
khonkhortisan |
now I remember |
20:15 |
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20:16 |
khonkhortisan |
Your choice. I'm not particularly attached to it |
20:16 |
VanessaE |
ok. |
20:17 |
VanessaE |
i'll exclude it for now; you may want to rebuild it on my new map (I'll find a suitable spot) with better materials at some point |
20:17 |
khonkhortisan |
I'd use the fastest rail I could find and a solid-color block for the space in between the slides |
20:18 |
khonkhortisan |
and larger images |
20:18 |
VanessaE |
*nod* |
20:18 |
sapier1 |
anyone interested in trying to create medieval battles? |
20:20 |
khonkhortisan |
vertical wires take two to connect because they are also the bases |
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20:21 |
khonkhortisan |
I wouldn't change it |
20:22 |
VanessaE |
yeah but if you remove the top one, the bottom part stays, and remains connected to the horizontal wire |
20:22 |
khonkhortisan |
I don't see it doing that |
20:23 |
khonkhortisan |
nor do I see the top one remaining connected when the bottom is removed |
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20:25 |
VanessaE |
odd |
20:25 |
VanessaE |
it did on mine |
20:25 |
VanessaE |
but my copy is probably older than yours |
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20:34 |
khonkhortisan |
If I have a signal going down and I want a side signal to interfere with it, I have to move the down wire somewhere else to continue it, then move it back |
20:36 |
khonkhortisan |
and I can't have two ends right by each other, they connect |
20:36 |
* khonkhortisan |
thinks of having an insulated vertical wire base that only connects to uninsulated vertical wire non-base |
20:37 |
ruskie |
just have coloured wires |
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20:41 |
khonkhortisan |
that's a different solution for a different problem. Touchscreens! |
20:41 |
khonkhortisan |
but it would work too |
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20:44 |
pandaro |
hi |
20:45 |
khonkhortisan |
hello |
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20:56 |
khonkhortisan |
When I place the insulated corner, one of the ends is pointed toward me. So if I'm working on a structure in the air, I'll be able to place it correctly half of the time. |
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20:59 |
jojoa1997 |
Hello! |
21:03 |
VanessaE |
hi |
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21:04 |
sapier |
http://postimage.org/image/bvjo73gd7/ http://postimage.org/image/luna3waa7/ what do you think about those mobs? |
21:05 |
khonkhortisan |
odd haircut |
21:05 |
sapier |
which one? |
21:05 |
khonkhortisan |
the first picture |
21:05 |
khonkhortisan |
the gray on the head goes down around the eyes |
21:05 |
khonkhortisan |
Is that a helmet? |
21:05 |
sapier |
not the big one with black throusers |
21:05 |
VanessaE |
protip: turn on daytime before making a screenshot |
21:05 |
sapier |
yes |
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jojoa1997 |
is that armor |
21:06 |
sapier |
daytime wasn't quite usefull as the one being attacked by the guards is a vombie ;-) |
21:06 |
khonkhortisan |
minetest.register_globalstep(function(dtime)minetest.env:set_timeofday(0.5)end) |
21:06 |
sapier |
those helmet guys are hirelings that defend your house against e.g. vombies |
21:07 |
sapier |
or other players ;) |
21:07 |
khonkhortisan |
I couldn't tell it was a helmet because it is curved |
21:07 |
sapier |
same do archers in second picture |
21:07 |
jojoa1997 |
so sapier is this another mid |
21:07 |
jojoa1997 |
mod |
21:07 |
sapier |
no |
21:07 |
sapier |
it's just graphics atm |
21:08 |
jojoa1997 |
ok will it be apart of your mod |
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berome |
:-) and we should make a mod wich illuminate a fraction of seconds when we hit F12 |
21:10 |
berome |
:-) and we should make a mod wich illuminate everything for a fraction of second when we hit F12 |
21:11 |
berome |
oh sorry |
21:11 |
berome |
x2 |
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sapier |
http://postimage.org/image/qyll5ifo7/734ce236/ |
21:11 |
berome |
because on servers we are not always allowed to "hack" day time |
21:11 |
sapier |
this is the archer guy at daytime |
21:12 |
khonkhortisan |
his arm is going through his head |
21:12 |
sapier |
http://postimage.org/image/k5xzowacp/ |
21:12 |
sapier |
yes he just shot an arrow :-P |
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jojoa1997 |
cant wait for this |
21:12 |
khonkhortisan |
The bow is a little pointy |
21:13 |
khonkhortisan |
I like the swords |
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sapier |
you already can try it it's in mobf dev branch ... but dev branch isn't stable right now expect crashes if you try it |
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jojoa1997 |
sapier link please i cant find it |
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sapier |
https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack/tree/mobf_2_1_dev |
21:18 |
jojoa1997 |
thanks |
21:19 |
sapier |
its unstable but you're welcome to write bug reports but plz make sure it's clear you're using development version |
21:19 |
jojoa1997 |
what is with the authored in # of minutes |
21:19 |
jojoa1997 |
also any outside dependencies |
21:20 |
sapier |
no |
21:20 |
sapier |
I tried to use throwing but those arrows haven't been customizable enough |
21:20 |
sapier |
at least not pilzadams version ... I remember last version was |
21:22 |
jojoa1997 |
what is with the authored in # of minutes |
21:23 |
sapier |
don't understand what you mean? |
21:24 |
jin_xi |
github shows you both commit and push time |
21:24 |
jojoa1997 |
animalmaterialsin a minuteadd contract in order to support hireing npc mobs [sapier] |
21:24 |
jojoa1997 |
the "in a minute" why is it there. |
21:25 |
sapier |
:-) because of different timezones I assume |
21:25 |
jojoa1997 |
2% |
21:26 |
sapier |
github version is quite big as it contains blender and texture raw data |
21:26 |
jojoa1997 |
76% |
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* khonkhortisan |
filed a mesecons issue |
21:30 |
jojoa1997 |
how do i use contract |
21:30 |
sapier |
you can use it to reclaim a placed hireling |
21:31 |
jojoa1997 |
gess he attacked me |
21:31 |
sapier |
if you want to place one first time you need to hire it from trader or use "give singleplayer mob_archer:archer 1" |
21:31 |
jojoa1997 |
or use creative |
21:31 |
sapier |
ok this most likely will work too |
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jojoa1997 |
why are vombies so fast |
21:35 |
sapier |
they're intended to catch you ;-) |
21:39 |
jojoa1997 |
well i found no errors |
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21:39 |
sapier |
you will ... it's still crashing quite often |
21:40 |
jojoa1997 |
what os do you use |
21:40 |
sapier |
linux but that doesn't matter crashes are due to assertions I placed on purpose to find invalid mob states |
21:41 |
marktraceur |
Huh, had him pegged as an NT user. |
21:41 |
sapier |
long time ago :-) w2k |
21:41 |
sapier |
was last winnt i used |
21:41 |
jojoa1997 |
NT? and also what did you do to crash it |
21:41 |
marktraceur |
jojoa1997: Linux is to NT as GNU/Linux is to Windows |
21:42 |
sapier |
if you target at kernel/os difference I'm not quite sure if this is true |
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jojoa1997 |
well gtg bye |
21:45 |
khonkhortisan |
aw, I can't connect to a vertical wire in the middle |
21:48 |
khonkhortisan |
woah, insulated wire that lights up! Cool! |
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sapier |
is there any way to increase minetest texture cache? |
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khonkhortisan |
Having smoothing on gives mesecons black edges |
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bulletrulz |
Menche, it was lagging |
22:47 |
bulletrulz |
Menche, this was the texure problem |
22:47 |
bulletrulz |
http://tinypic.com/r/2vmj1hg/6 |
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22:56 |
Menche |
bulletrulz: sorry i was afk |
22:57 |
Menche |
maybe your getting that glitch from too many textures; my netbook got that too |
22:58 |
Menche |
if you're still reading this, try disabling "preload item visuals". i think that fixed it on my netbook. it also loads much faster. |
23:00 |
* Menche |
wishes there was a way to make an afk person's computer emit a really loud beep |
23:01 |
khonkhortisan |
typing ctrl-g while write-ing their terminal during an ssh |
23:02 |
khonkhortisan |
You could make a mod that does that |
23:02 |
Menche |
assuming i can gain ssh access |
23:02 |
khonkhortisan |
steal some ambience code and add a /command for a sound near the user |
23:02 |
Menche |
a mod that beeps someone when they're name is mentioned? |
23:02 |
Menche |
s/they're/their |
23:02 |
khonkhortisan |
or when you say /beep name |
23:02 |
Menche |
good idea |
23:03 |
Menche |
of course, that could be abused |
23:03 |
marktraceur |
Menche: Make sure it's visible who has beeped whom |
23:03 |
marktraceur |
Menche: Maybe rate-limit it |
23:03 |
khonkhortisan |
I wouldn't have regular chat beep |
23:05 |
Menche |
and have a way for alerts to be disabled per-user |
23:05 |
Menche |
i usually have sound disabled though |
23:05 |
khonkhortisan |
If I'm playing singleplayer, and my ports are open, can someone join my game? |
23:05 |
marktraceur |
Menche: Why not just alert the window? |
23:06 |
marktraceur |
Menche: It's totally possible to raise a window's attention |
23:06 |
Menche |
khonkhortisan: no, the new singleplayer has a feature that blocks other connections |
23:07 |
Menche |
if you're playing "singleplayer" from advanced, then yes |
23:07 |
khonkhortisan |
than that's one feature minetest now has over xonotic/nexuiz. |
23:08 |
Menche |
? |
23:09 |
khonkhortisan |
(first-person shooter) My brother was going through the tutorial and I joined and fought the bots and he couldn't go to the next level because I was winning |
23:09 |
khonkhortisan |
It can really interfere with someone's game when there's no true singleplayer |
23:10 |
Muadtralk |
anyone think the advanced tab should have the new server select list as well? |
23:10 |
Menche |
the singleplayer is technically multiplayer with other connections blocked. you can try to connect, but get an error |
23:10 |
Muadtralk |
after all it is advanced |
23:10 |
khonkhortisan |
YES! |
23:10 |
Muadtralk |
so you would think that would mean anything and everything on one cluttered tab :)\ |
23:10 |
khonkhortisan |
It shouldn't go without a server list. |
23:11 |
Menche |
its advanced so clearly it should have 143 options on it |
23:11 |
khonkhortisan |
Maybe with an option for servers to appear or not appear (to keep most people out) but you shouldn't have to go searching to find a server |
23:11 |
khonkhortisan |
Maybe a List tab |
23:12 |
khonkhortisan |
but it needs a server list and the Change Keys button accessible from in-game. |
23:12 |
Menche |
am i the only one who noticed the placeholder text on the singleplayer tab? |
23:13 |
Menche |
"tape and glue" |
23:13 |
Muadtralk |
no I noticed it |
23:13 |
Muadtralk |
but i dismissed it as a feature |
23:13 |
khonkhortisan |
it's really not that noticable, other than the first time you see it |
23:14 |
khonkhortisan |
Advanced = Multiplayer (Client) + Server |
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23:14 |
Menche |
also, i think the menubg should be a texture from the new pack |
23:14 |
khonkhortisan |
Singleplayer = Client + (Server - Multiplayer) |
23:14 |
Menche |
the dirt from the old 0.3 pack is ugly |
23:15 |
khonkhortisan |
yes the dirt should match |
23:15 |
Menche |
actually the old pack is still used in minimal |
23:16 |
khonkhortisan |
texture smoothing needs some help. I'm getting a green edge on the bottom of dirt_with_grass |
23:16 |
khonkhortisan |
Instead of blending with the bottom face |
23:17 |
Menche |
bi/trilinear filtering? |
23:17 |
khonkhortisan |
I died and lost my mesecon machine in the sky |
23:17 |
khonkhortisan |
nevermind it was at 0 1000 0 |
23:18 |
khonkhortisan |
yes, I have all the options on except for opaque water |
23:18 |
Menche |
i personally only use anisotropic and mipmaps. i think bi/trilinear looks blurry with 16x textures. |
23:18 |
khonkhortisan |
it does |
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khonkhortisan |
VanessaE, Yes, I can tell you don't use vertical wires much. You would've caught what I just fixed. |
23:35 |
bulletrulz |
Menche, try restarting the server |
23:36 |
Menche |
bulletrulz: i'm building the stable version, i'll restart when its donw |
23:36 |
Menche |
*done |
23:36 |
bulletrulz |
Menche, k |
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Menche |
hopefully locked chests will work for everyone then |
23:36 |
bulletrulz |
Menche, tell me when ur dont |
23:37 |
Menche |
curious, what does enable_curl do? |
23:37 |
khonkhortisan |
curl as in downloading? |
23:37 |
Menche |
i know curl is for downloading |
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bulletrulz |
brb |
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Menche |
bulletrulz told me to tell him when it was done, then he left... |
23:43 |
Menche |
lol |
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