IRC log for #minetest, 2012-11-03

Time	Nick	Message
00:02	NekoGloop	> english and romanized japanese
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00:03	Octupus	cheapass internet
00:03	Octupus	i got a idea for a block
00:03	Octupus	might take a little while
00:04	NekoGloop	> english and romanized japanese
00:04	Octupus	i saw that part
00:04	NekoGloop	I did not say russian or whatever that was. :P
00:04	Octupus	it was russian
00:04	Octupus	it said i like this laguage better
00:07	NekoGloop	anata ga omoshiroi desu ^w^
00:09	NekoGloop	anata ga omoshiroi Octupus desu ^w^
00:09	Octupus	whats dat?
00:09	NekoGloop	You are funny, Octupus ^w^
00:09	Octupus	oooooooooo :P
00:21	NekoGloop	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWEQf_KrmXY :3
00:24	Octupus	is there a mod that makes sound ?
00:24	NekoGloop	ambience?
00:27	Octupus	not that
00:27	Octupus	like a bell or something
00:27	NekoGloop	mesecons has notebloocks.
00:28	Octupus	hmm
00:28	Octupus	i will try to make a doorbell
00:28	cornernote	hi
00:29	Octupus	alo
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00:30	Kacey	hello
00:30	NekoGloop	konnichiha! ^w^
00:30	Kacey	hola
00:31	Octupus	hi kacey
00:31	Octupus	cornernote,nice u and adam are great at mods 1 of u guys shud make pets
00:31	Octupus	cats and dogs
00:32	NekoGloop	nekoto inu :3
00:32	NekoGloop	(cats and dogs.)
00:32	Octupus	cool
00:33	cornernote	Octupus, i made critters, they are kind of cute and can be made to follow you with some small code changes
00:33	cornernote	https://sites.google.com/site/cornernote/minetest/critters
00:34	cornernote	i like the 1-eyed furry monsters
00:34	Octupus	Looking
00:34	Octupus	These pictures are the toys from buger king
00:35	NekoGloop	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnn68aSziA4&feature=related :3
00:35	cornernote	don't know much about burger king.. i prefer my meals to not taste like cruelty
00:35	Octupus	hmmmmmmmmmmm i thin servers need this
00:35	Octupus	true
00:36	NekoGloop	has noone else noticed the similarities between Jack Skellington and Slenderman? :P
00:36	Kacey	aaai have
00:37	cornernote	https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xn9qWnGbZtw
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00:38	RealBadAngel	well it was the 1st and the last day of ubuntu here
00:39	RealBadAngel	tried to install propertiaty drivers for my ati, and it fucked up the system
00:39	NekoGloop	haha
00:39	RealBadAngel	so i cannot even unistall it and run system in graphic mode
00:39	RealBadAngel	fuck you canonical
00:39	NekoGloop	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPEnNLuvqQY&feature=relmfu
00:40	cornernote	u know you wouldnt have that problem if you used windows ;)
00:40	NekoGloop	He's using windows now if I'm not mistaken ;)
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00:40	RealBadAngel	right
00:40	cornernote	sure, you'd have tons of other problems... but not that one
00:40	cornernote	oh
00:40	NakedFury	score 1 windows team!
00:40	NekoGloop	linux team 0! :D
00:40	NakedFury	boooo
00:41	RealBadAngel	burning dvd with debian
00:41	RealBadAngel	:P
00:41	NakedFury	Go Windows GO! Go windows GO!
00:41	NekoGloop	< is part of windows team :P
00:41	cornernote	i think linux already has one up on windows... just try compile minetest on both and you will see what i mean
00:41	RealBadAngel	i compiled mt already on ubuntu
00:41	NekoGloop	I dont bother compiling, there's this thing called sfan's website 8)
00:42	RealBadAngel	but on open drivers i got less than 40 fps
00:42	cornernote	yeah, but it cant compile my gamewiki itemcube extractor
00:42	RealBadAngel	so decided to install ati drivers
00:42	RealBadAngel	and bye bye whole system
00:42	cornernote	what do you mean RBA ?
00:42	cornernote	whats it do now ?
00:43	RealBadAngel	cant uninstall those fuckin drivers
00:43	GTRsdk	<-- part of Linux team
00:43	RealBadAngel	there was before xf86config or somethin like that
00:43	cornernote	RBA, how did you install them? with apt-get or something else ?
00:43	RealBadAngel	to configure video in text mode
00:43	RealBadAngel	its gone
00:44	RealBadAngel	together with xorg.conf
00:44	RealBadAngel	theyre changed their heads with asses
00:44	RealBadAngel	morons
00:44	cornernote	apt-get install xserver-xorg ?
00:44	RealBadAngel	apt-get install --reinstall
00:44	cornernote	apt-get install x-window-system-core xserver-xfree86
00:45	cornernote	that should give you your xf86config
00:45	RealBadAngel	so what, when leftowers of fglxr are here and tries to load?
00:45	RealBadAngel	and theres no way to do that
00:45	cornernote	also try this
00:45	cornernote	dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
00:46	NekoGloop	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPEnNLuvqQY&feature=relmfu Time-stopping sonic == YOU'RE TOO SLOW!!!!
00:46	RealBadAngel	did that already
00:46	cornernote	thats all i got :(
00:46	cornernote	sorry
00:46	cornernote	rm / -rf ?
00:47	cornernote	that will remove all the stuff on there that you don't want =)
00:47	cornernote	along with all the stuff you do what
00:47	RealBadAngel	ehehehe
00:47	RealBadAngel	i will go for debian
00:47	NekoGloop	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meO_6WusWI4&feature=related
00:47	NekoGloop	:3
00:47	RealBadAngel	at least i know ati drivers work there
00:48	RealBadAngel	not like with this fancy schmancy ubuntu
00:48	cornernote	had a massive headfuk with ubuntu last night trying to get mydumper to make mysql backups
00:48	cornernote	was just segfaulting
00:48	Octupus	cornernote,can u please give me a link to the topic of critters?
00:49	cornernote	but the author of mydumper has aparently patched it... just needed to build from sources
00:49	cornernote	Octupus - link is on the homepage
00:50	cornernote	http://bit.ly/Whg15A
00:50	cornernote	gotta love lmgtfy =)
00:55	NekoGloop	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWEQf_KrmXY ^w^
01:00	Octupus	cornernote,how do i make them follow you?
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01:01	Kacey	octu
01:01	Octupus	Yes
01:01	Kacey	(hm)
01:01	Kacey	lol
01:02	Octupus	GPLv3
01:02	Kacey	later in going to start the currents mod
01:02	Octupus	cornernote,^ meaning of that license?
01:05	Octupus	GPLv3
01:05	Octupus	NekoGloop,meaning of that license
01:06	NekoGloop	means you need to google it
01:07	NakedFury	general public license version 3
01:07	NakedFury	if you want definitions then google or bing it
01:07	Octupus	lol i tried just now
01:07	Octupus	didnt get a meaning
01:07	Octupus	so i can do whatever i want with that mod ?
01:08	NekoGloop	no
01:08	Octupus	o
01:08	NakedFury	http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WhatDoesGPLStandFor
01:08	NakedFury	if you couldnt find anything via google you suck
01:08	Octupus	XD
01:08	Octupus	thanks though
01:11	Octupus	i wonder if rats cud work in 4.2
01:11	Octupus	can they?
01:15	Octupus	NekoGloop,where is the code for rats in 3.1
01:15	NekoGloop	in C++
01:15	Octupus	where is that?
01:15	NekoGloop	in the source code.
01:15	Octupus	:l
01:16	Octupus	i cant even find that :l
01:16	Octupus	looks like il have to make a moving node :l
01:18	Octupus	any1 can help?
01:18	NekoGloop	yeah: dont try to port C++ to LUA
01:19	Octupus	lolz
01:19	Octupus	cornernote did it with sucess
01:19	NekoGloop	no, he did that from sractch.
01:20	Octupus	o
01:20	Octupus	alright then
01:20	Octupus	i just want a node that mode around
01:20	Octupus	like a rat wud do in lua though
01:20	NekoGloop	entity. nodes cant move
01:20	Octupus	SO how da hel did cornernote get them to move :l
01:21	NekoGloop	by making them entities, like i said.
01:21	NekoGloop	if you listen, you would know.
01:21	Octupus	alright then
01:21	NakedFury	read the code to learn
01:21	Octupus	ok dont get mad
01:21	Octupus	cheeez
01:21	NakedFury	im not
01:22	NekoGloop	and i was stating a fact :P
01:22	Octupus	lolz
01:22	Octupus	hm i wonder which mod has the simplest moving thing
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01:25	Octupus	il read critters init and learn
01:30	OldCoder	Hello
01:30	* OldCoder	reads up
01:30	Octupus	Hello OldCoder,
01:31	Octupus	look like i need to make walk velocity
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01:31	OldCoder	Octupus, all right
01:31	Octupus	i am trying to make mobs
01:31	Octupus	addd some pets
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01:32	Octupus	i need a simple 1
01:32	babyface1031	hi
01:32	Octupus	maybe i can start with just making the mob
01:32	Octupus	then start adding stuff to it
01:33	T_A_N_K	why the hell doesn't this work in the windows version http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=j6DExPNh
01:34	T_A_N_K	like, i'm almost to the point where i can start making the wiki but this, what the mother duck is wrong with the windows version
01:35	Octupus	T_A_N-K,can u be able to help me code a moving creature in mt
01:35	Octupus	?
01:36	babyface1031	ooh pets
01:36	babyface1031	:D
01:36	T_A_N_K	no
01:36	Octupus	alright
01:36	NakedFury	octupus can you not just READ one of the animal mods already created????
01:36	Octupus	ik
01:36	Octupus	i was asking for other mods but no responded
01:37	Muadtralk	pilzmobs
01:37	Octupus	thank you muad
01:37	Muadtralk	alter the movement for the monsters
01:37	Octupus	maybe his will be a bit easier
01:37	Muadtralk	make the creature not attack but still follow
01:37	Octupus	what license does it have
01:37	Muadtralk	it would be rather simple to do so
01:38	Muadtralk	look it up
01:38	Muadtralk	cause ill be damned if i remember
01:38	Octupus	alright
01:38	Octupus	WTFPL license
01:39	T_A_N_K	fuck, why does this not work on the windows version
01:40	Octupus	idk
01:41	Octupus	what is a collision box?
01:43	OldCoder	Octupus, I do not know
01:44	OldCoder	Octupus, Hi BTW
01:44	OldCoder	I was away all day
01:44	OldCoder	In San Jose
01:44	OldCoder	Here to say
01:44	OldCoder	I am back
01:44	OldCoder	Without slack
01:48	Octupus	OO i am happy u are back
01:48	NekoGloop	T_A_N_K: Meow. :3
01:49	OldCoder	Octupus, t y
01:49	NekoGloop	T_A_N_K: http://ompldr.org/vZzRhcw Glooptest pack V1! :D
01:49	T_A_N_K	http://youtu.be/ZDUOo5bubpI
01:49	T_A_N_K	pretty nice
01:51	NekoGloop	T_A_N_K: try using my texture pack :P
01:51	NekoGloop	see if you like it
01:51	T_A_N_K	laterrr i am coding
01:52	Octupus	i will need to learn alot more coding b4 i can make a move node
01:55	OldCoder	One step at a time
01:57	Octupus	Kacey asked me to help her on floeing water strength i like i might do that for a bit
01:57	OldCoder	Octupus, How did your world hold up today?
01:58	Octupus	Great
01:58	OldCoder	Glad to hear it
01:58	NekoGloop	Meow.
01:58	OldCoder	I have seen unknown blocks there; possibly from dicormod
01:59	* OldCoder	puts down a small but efficiently stacked plate of chopped turkey bits
01:59	Octupus	zilla and peguin had some but they took them out
01:59	* NekoGloop	digs in :3
02:00	OldCoder	k
02:01	Octupus	i wrote my very first own line of code :D
02:01	OldCoder	What was it?
02:02	Octupus	liquid_strength = 10,
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02:02	Octupus	isnt much but it is a start :)
02:03	babyface1031	Octupus are those steel blocks for your tools
02:04	OldCoder	babyface1031, Hey!
02:05	OldCoder	Octupus, You have written Perl before :-)
02:05	OldCoder	skully_, Hi!
02:05	babyface1031	hey @OldCoder
02:05	Octupus	hey face
02:05	Octupus	*yes
02:05	Octupus	OldCoder,perl is much much easier :D
02:05	OldCoder	Nah
02:05	OldCoder	Many languages are good
02:05	babyface1031	ok ty i wasnt looking a broke mine
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02:05	OldCoder	Different strengths
02:05	OldCoder	Different weaknesses
02:05	OldCoder	Like people
02:06	skully__	coder!
02:06	OldCoder	Like anything
02:06	OldCoder	skully_!
02:06	OldCoder	:-)
02:06	skully__	i queryed u
02:06	Octupus	why are u shoutingskully_
02:09	OldCoder	Octupus, He has some news
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02:10	Octupus	O
02:10	Octupus	well i found about 3 mistakes in my code
02:10	Octupus	Well we can say it worked :)
02:11	Octupus	just need to see if the water can keep u back
02:12	OldCoder	Octupus, It is O.K. to make mistakes
02:12	OldCoder	The challenge is to make things better; the code will improve
02:13	NakedFury	if you never made them you would never learn or grow
02:13	Octupus	well there is no chnage with the water
02:13	OldCoder	NakedFury, Indeed. And hello.
02:13	NakedFury	hello
02:13	OldCoder	NakedFury, I am pleased to see you
02:13	OldCoder	Relax and chill
02:13	OldCoder	Or vice versa :-)
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02:14	Kacey	hello
02:14	Octupus	Hi Kacey
02:15	Kacey	how is it going
02:15	Octupus	the mod or how im doing (o) (o)
02:15	Kacey	both
02:15	Octupus	mod pretty well
02:15	Octupus	me tired a bit
02:16	Kacey	lol same here
02:16	Kacey	time to look for code
02:16	Octupus	well i changed liquid_strength from 10 to 50
02:16	Kacey	ooh wow
02:16	Octupus	see if that changes anything
02:16	Octupus	and i need to make a water flowing animation
02:17	Kacey	ok
02:17	Octupus	make it have a more mc flavour if u catch my drift
02:17	Kacey	ok
02:18	Kacey	here email me the code so far and u work on the animation and ill work on the code
02:20	Octupus	hold on lets see if i did anything with changing the numbers
02:20	Kacey	ok
02:20	Octupus	not a bit
02:20	Octupus	pm the email
02:20	Kacey	ok
02:21	OldCoder	Octupus, you are being patient; that will help things work well
02:22	OldCoder	Try different approaches
02:22	Octupus	:)
02:22	OldCoder	This will work out
02:23	Octupus	Kacey is responsible for code now
02:23	OldCoder	He will learn
02:23	Octupus	il be giving in additional tweaks and such
02:23	Octupus	and i will do water animation like lava
02:23	Kacey	im looking up the code now
02:24	Octupus	ok
02:24	Octupus	that 1 was from last night
02:24	Octupus	that 1 isnt as developed as this 1 yet
02:24	Kacey	ok well email me the new one
02:25	* VanessaE	peeks in again
02:25	VanessaE	hi.
02:25	Octupus	Kacey,sent
02:25	Octupus	Hello VanessaE
02:25	* Kacey	hides from vanessa
02:25	Octupus	why?
02:26	Octupus	Kacey,also teamv stuff so i can show u what to do
02:26	Kacey	need teamv first
02:26	Octupus	lol
02:26	* NekoGloop	gives VanessaE this: http://ompldr.org/vZzRhcw again. :3
02:27	Octupus	il show u if u have tv
02:27	Kacey	im getting it now
02:27	Octupus	if u dont wanna get it,it is alright
02:27	Kacey	im downloading now
02:28	Octupus	ok
02:28	Kacey	windows 7 y o no 8
02:28	Kacey	u*
02:28	NekoGloop	because 8 sux
02:29	Kacey	true
02:30	OldCoder	8 is cell phone I hear
02:30	Kacey	and laptop and everything
02:30	NekoGloop	8 is tablet-like interface.
02:30	NekoGloop	not good for computer.
02:31	OldCoder	Agreed
02:31	OldCoder	MS Take Heed
02:31	OldCoder	People like the Old Way
02:31	OldCoder	This I Say
02:31	GTRsdk	not new users though
02:31	OldCoder	People Will Pray
02:31	OldCoder	Hmm
02:31	OldCoder	Interesting point
02:31	OldCoder	What of the 100,000s of old users though?
02:31	Octupus	Kacey do u see me
02:31	GTRsdk	OldCoder: we use Linux :-)
02:32	GTRsdk	or ReactOS
02:32	GTRsdk	or you don't upgrade (simple as that)
02:33	OldCoder	GTRsdk, Yes
02:33	OldCoder	ReactOS not done but interesting future option
02:34	GTRsdk	see, for now just not upgrading works
02:34	GTRsdk	very few, if any, apps are made only for Windows 8
02:34	GTRsdk	heck, very few, if any apps support Windows 8...
02:51	Octupus	GTG every1
02:51	Octupus	have a good night
02:51	babyface1031	`nite
02:53	OldCoder	Night
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02:56	T_A_N_K	can i give a tool metadata?
03:00	NekoGloop	you can give an itemstack metadata
03:02	T_A_N_K	how?
03:02	T_A_N_K	itemstack:set_string("test", "value") ?
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03:03	NekoGloop	if i remember correctly, you just assign it to itemstack.meta
03:10	VanessaE	zzz
03:10	* NekoGloop	claps loudly near VanessaE's head :3
03:11	OldCoder	NekoGloop, she is tired
03:11	OldCoder	VanessaE, Hey
03:11	NekoGloop	:D
03:11	OldCoder	NekoGloop, really tired
03:12	OldCoder	It was quite an exercise
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03:13	VanessaE	OldCoder, hi
03:14	OldCoder	VanessaE, how are you?
03:14	VanessaE	tired
03:14	T_A_N_K	oldcoder: can you give an item metadata?
03:14	T_A_N_K	item = tool
03:14	OldCoder	T_A_N_K, I cannot say as I am Zzz myself
03:15	T_A_N_K	hgsdghsdjsdgsdjdzh
03:15	NekoGloop	T_A_N_K: check the git repo, i think minetest says at some point that it supports itemstack metadata.
03:15	NekoGloop	VanessaE: Want a cookie? :3
03:15	VanessaE	bleah.
03:15	NekoGloop	lol
03:21	T_A_N_K	time to hack this shit
03:22	NekoGloop	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPXIXkjQ8Lc&feature=related
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03:30	OldCoder	skully_, wb
03:30	OldCoder	Aren't you asleep?
03:30	skully_	no
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03:30	skully_	your queryed
03:31	skully_	c`mon
03:32	skully_	awnser me
03:32	NekoGloop	good night everyone
03:33	skully_	ODLCODER
03:33	skully_	please awnser me in query
03:34	VanessaE	skully, please speak in public unless you absolutely need to speak in msg
03:34	skully_	ok
03:35	VanessaE	Whatever you have to say might benefit someone else anyway, never know.
03:36	OldCoder	VanessaE, he can PM me
03:36	OldCoder	VanessaE, see my own PM to you
03:37	VanessaE	I know, just pointing it out is all.
03:44	VanessaE	OldCoder: Gloop wrote, "You should link to OldCoder's version compiled for windows that has these patches."
03:44	VanessaE	what URL would I use for that?
03:45	VanessaE	(he refers to the video settings patch)
03:46	OldCoder	VanessaE, one moment
03:46	OldCoder	http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/mineinfo.html#SECTION02
03:46	OldCoder	For now
03:46	OldCoder	That will have my builds
03:46	VanessaE	thanks.
03:46	OldCoder	and is where I will link to yours
03:48	VanessaE	linked.
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04:11	VanessaE	ok, time to head off to bed. Night all.
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04:20	OldCoder	Same soon
04:20	OldCoder	VanessaE, nice to see you
04:25	T_A_N_K	yay, now you can turn atomic shovel drops on and off
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04:41	T_A_N_K	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wOwzUKk50g&feature=youtu.be
04:43	T_A_N_K	too scary?
04:55	T_A_N_K	goodnight everyone
05:27	OldCoder	I think it is time to rest
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05:28	Kacey	hello
05:28	Kacey	anyone on?
05:44	NakedFury	not for long
05:44	NakedFury	very late here
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09:23	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
09:30	ruskie	lo
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10:05	jin_xi	PilzAdam: i'm hypnotized by my wireworld clock
10:05	PilzAdam	:D
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10:18	jin_xi	Hi taoki
10:18	Taoki	hi
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10:57	OdnetninI	I've download lastest github code and minetestserver doesn't compile: Linking CXX executable ../bin/minetestserver CMakeFiles/minetestserver.dir/rollback.cpp.o: file not recognized: File truncated colle
10:57	PilzAdam	why do you triple post this?
10:58	OdnetninI	if one person can help me
10:58	PilzAdam	what OS do you use?
10:59	OdnetninI	Trisquel GNU/Linux
10:59	PilzAdam	with what commands did you compile?
10:59	OdnetninI	make -j2
11:00	PilzAdam	you have to do cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 first
11:00	PilzAdam	(see README.txt)
11:00	OdnetninI	yes
11:02	OdnetninI	http://pastebin.com/LZbkBh9t
11:03	PilzAdam	are you sure you have latest version from GitHub?
11:03	OdnetninI	yes
11:03	OdnetninI	i've download 10 minutes ago
11:03	OldCoder	Good morning
11:04	OdnetninI	Hello
11:04	PilzAdam	hi OldCoder
11:04	PilzAdam	OdnetninI, redownload and try again
11:04	OdnetninI	ok
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11:12	artur99	hi
11:12	artur99	is enybody?
11:12	PilzAdam	hi
11:13	artur99	somewone, gave me a mining laser
11:13	artur99	my interviory was full
11:13	artur99	i maked clik to take it
11:14	artur99	i take a look in my interviory, and there was nothing
11:15	artur99	i put down some objects form interviory, but the mining laser didnt apeared
11:15	artur99	are u?
11:15	PilzAdam	if your inventory is full and you pick up items or dig blocks they just disapear
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11:16	artur99	realy? i lose a mining laser
11:16	ruskie	hehe
11:16	artur99	:((
11:16	ruskie	it happens
11:16	ruskie	not a big deal
11:16	ruskie	I rarely used it myself
11:16	anunakki	mithril pickaxe
11:17	anunakki	best way to go
11:17	ruskie	heh
11:17	ruskie	I prefer a mese pickaxe myself
11:17	anunakki	oh
11:17	anunakki	my bad
11:17	anunakki	i meant mese
11:17	anunakki	lol
11:17	ruskie	hehe
11:17	ruskie	though also have a mining drill but I don't really use it
11:18	anunakki	well, the only problem with the technic stuff is you have to charge them relatively quickly so it gets a little annoying when you could just craft a mese pick
11:18	artur99	no, thanks...i must make my interviory be empty
11:18	anunakki	so craft a chest and empty it?
11:18	anunakki	lol
11:19	ruskie	anunakki, you can now carry a portable power source to recharge on the spot
11:19	anunakki	:O
11:19	ruskie	you need an energy crystal and a battery box
11:19	anunakki	i always have realbadangels github open when i'm playing so i can see the new stuff he adds to the technic mod
11:19	ruskie	you put the crystal in the discharge and the item to charge in the chare
11:19	ruskie	anunakki, hehe I just have teh forum post open
11:21	artur99	how to use titanium dioxide?
11:21	ruskie	http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2041
11:21	ruskie	see here
11:22	OdnetninI	solved, it was a download problem, thanks.
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13:06	OldCoder	Jeija, Hi
13:06	OldCoder	cornernote, Ditto BTW
13:06	Jeija	Hi
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13:36	Jordach	brb - macdonalds
13:37	Jordach	s/brb/bbl
13:37	OldCoder	Do any U.S. people know if Daylight Savings Time ended tonight?
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13:40	babyface1031	hi Octupus
13:40	Octupus	Helllo
13:43	Octupus	hello cornernote
13:43	Octupus	oh be left XD
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13:46	Octupus	wb cornernote
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14:04	Kacey	hello
14:04	Octupus	Hello Kacey
14:04	Kacey	im trying the mod out
14:04	Octupus	may i teamv so see?
14:05	Octupus	*to
14:05	Kacey	sure let me start it up
14:05	Octupus	i just realised that personal use is not a trail commericail is
14:05	Kacey	?
14:06	Octupus	dont wrry :)
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14:40	Octupus	Hi LAD_
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14:53	* PilzAdam	is back
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14:57	iqualfragile	its good to see some progress in minetest
14:58	PilzAdam	thats true
14:58	PilzAdam	but they are currently more small fixes
14:58	iqualfragile	especialy this texture-bux freaked me out
14:58	iqualfragile	(i know i read the diffs)
14:59	PilzAdam	the water thing or the video memory thing?
14:59	Octupus	Hi Adam
15:02	iqualfragile	the memthing
15:03	realbadangel	hi all
15:03	PilzAdam	c55 wasnt sure if its stable so please report bugs etc.
15:03	iqualfragile	im working on it
15:03	PilzAdam	hi RBA
15:03	iqualfragile	are you realy realbadangle?
15:03	realbadangel	no. im a fake
15:03	iqualfragile	he usualy capitalizes his name
15:04	realbadangel	yeah, just noticed that
15:04	Jordach	i know its the real one
15:04	realbadangel	im on debian right now, so xchat just took my user name
15:04	Jordach	because rba uses satfilm.net.pl
15:05	realbadangel	im still fightin with video drivers
15:05	iqualfragile	yeah, those are annoying
15:05	realbadangel	official amd/ati drivers doesnt support my radeon
15:06	realbadangel	bought 1,5yrs ago for circa 100$
15:06	realbadangel	insane
15:06	PilzAdam	brb
15:07	Jordach	realbadangel - windows ftw
15:07	realbadangel	i want to compile the game
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15:09	Jordach	iqualfragile1 - wifi?
15:09	iqualfragile1	oh, wow, that came by suprise
15:09	iqualfragile1	yes wifi
15:10	Jordach	im hardwired
15:10	iqualfragile1	but i thought it would be more stable
15:10	Jordach	wifi != stable
15:11	iqualfragile1	pilzadam: http://sup.qc.to:8000/minetest-texture-bug.png
15:11	iqualfragile1	not fixed, i guess
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15:14	Jordach	aw fuck: i have to switch hardware routers
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15:23	PilzAdam	back
15:24	PilzAdam	iqualfragile1, if you have too low video memory it doesnt help, but it frees it after exiting the world
15:25	iqualfragile1	i have ~512 mb i think
15:25	iqualfragile1	and this error justhappened after i left a game and rejoined it
15:25	iqualfragile1	it looks perfectly right when just joining it after restarting minetest
15:25	iqualfragile1	(pilzadam)
15:25	PilzAdam	hmmmmmm, after rejoining it should be fixed
15:26	iqualfragile1	jup, and the build was from 19:30 yesterday evening
15:26	iqualfragile1	so it includes the patch
15:26	PilzAdam	it should be fine without completly restarting minetest
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15:29	Octupus	Hello
15:29	PilzAdam	wb
15:30	Octupus	im using icechat now :)
15:30	PilzAdam	i see that
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15:31	iqualfragile1	icechat is so puny
15:31	PilzAdam	hi Calinou
15:31	Octupus	so
15:31	Octupus	:"l
15:31	PilzAdam	Calinou, can you move this to mod realeases? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3605
15:31	Calinou	hi
15:31	* Calinou	updated hexchat to 2.9.3
15:31	Calinou	k
15:32	Octupus	Hello Calinou i tried dloading hexchat just now
15:32	Octupus	but it got an error
15:32	PilzAdam	xchat ftw
15:32	Calinou	done
15:32	Octupus	xchat i got to pay :l
15:32	PilzAdam	thx
15:32	Calinou	xchat is only paid for windows, and is discontinued anyway (iirc)
15:32	Calinou	better use xchat
15:32	Calinou	free AND legal fork
15:33	Octupus	i am windows Calinou
15:33	Calinou	fun fact: xchat windows binaries are paid, but the software is under the GPL (iirc), this means free forks are legal
15:33	Calinou	8D
15:33	Calinou	Octupus: 64 bit or 32 bit?
15:33	Octupus	32 i thnk
15:33	Calinou	try the windows x64 one
15:33	Octupus	i dont remember
15:33	Calinou	then, the x86 one
15:33	Calinou	windows + E, right click somewhere in the "computer" window, and see
15:33	Octupus	i tried the 64 thats where i got the error
15:34	Calinou	https://github.com/downloads/hexchat/hexchat/HexChat%202.9.3%20x86.exe
15:34	Calinou	there
15:34	Calinou	for 32 bit windows
15:35	* Calinou	is installing JDK7, both 32 bit and 64 bit
15:36	Octupus	icechat cant even open links :l
15:36	Octupus	isnt that totally gay
15:37	Calinou	ctrl+click
15:37	Calinou	"security" feature 8)
15:37	OldCoder	?
15:37	OldCoder	Oh!
15:37	Calinou	(well, at least in hexchat)
15:37	OldCoder	So that is really true?
15:37	Calinou	or just copy-paste the link in browser
15:37	OldCoder	They think they can stop FOSS?
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15:37	* Calinou	voted for hexchat on AUR
15:38	GTRsdk	duit
15:38	Calinou	OldCoder: security feature as in. avoiding accidentally clicking NSFW/malicious links
15:38	Calinou	no u GTRsdk
15:38	GTRsdk	:-)
15:38	GTRsdk	Where do I vote then?
15:40	OldCoder	k
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15:46	dzho	so, on ubuntu precise using minetestc55 from the minetest repo, the cursor drifts upwards.
15:46	dzho	is this a known bug, is there a workaround?
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15:46	Lumpio-	You might need to adjust the vertical servos in your mouse
15:46	Octupus	Hello
15:46	Lumpio-	So it counters out the drift
15:47	Octupus	i got hexchat working i think
15:47	Lumpio-	Your cursor will then drift down everywhere else but that's the price you'll have to pay
15:47	LAD	hey Octu
15:47	Octupus	Hi LAD
15:48	dzho	it's a touchpad
15:48	dzho	minetest is the only thing I see this in
15:48	dzho	outside of minetest, the cursor does not drift
15:48	VanessaE	it's a known bug in minetest, yes
15:49	VanessaE	I seem to recall the workaround was odd and had something to do with window size?
15:50	dzho	VanessaE: ah, thanks
15:50	dzho	if anyone happens upon a link to a bug report I'd appreciate knowning about it so I can follow it
15:51	dzho	in the meantime, I'll mess around with window size
15:51	VanessaE	though frankly I don't see how anyone could play the game with a touchpad :-)
15:52	dzho	:-)
15:52	* Calinou	updated nvidia driver
15:52	Jordach_	VanessaE I can easily play minecraft with a touchpad
15:52	Calinou	dzho: get a external mouse :P
15:52	Jordach_	s/craft/test
15:52	Calinou	maybe try playing fullscreen
15:52	dzho	VanessaE: I changed the width of the window and it seems to have fixed it. Thanks again!
15:52	Calinou	(fullscreen = 1 in minetest.conf, might want to change resolution with screenW and screenH)
15:52	Jordach_	fullscreen == low fps
15:52	Calinou	no
15:52	Calinou	higher
15:52	Calinou	your DE is not "rendered"
15:52	VanessaE	dzho: you're welcome
15:53	Calinou	especially true if your driver supports unredirected fullscreen windows
15:53	Calinou	(latest nvidia driver does)
15:53	Jordach_	OldCoder - FOSS can never rule!
15:53	Octupus	hexchat is better than ice
15:53	Calinou	by far
15:53	Octupus	how do i set a quiting message
15:53	Calinou	Octupus: btw, did you install the HexTray plugin?
15:53	Calinou	you really should
15:53	Calinou	set quit message in the options
15:53	Calinou	xchat works without hextray too
15:54	Octupus	i dloaded 84
15:54	Calinou	but hextray moves hexchat's icon to the notification area :P
15:54	Octupus	o
15:54	jordach	i just use ychat :D
15:55	Calinou	meh
15:55	Calinou	xchat2 isn't updated anymore
15:55	* jordach	is a lazy shit
15:55	Octupus	GTG
15:55	Calinou	only hexchat is active, and less buggy, and has better windows integration
15:55	Calinou	I moved to hexchat 2 months ago
15:55	Octupus	bye every1
15:56	jordach	Calinou - it works
15:56	jordach	PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=50624#p50624
15:56	Calinou	yep, but hexchat is still better. :P
15:57	jordach	Calinou - i see your skin for <shall not be named> has too many useless pixels
15:57	jordach	;)
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16:10	OldCoder	jordach, very well. FOSS will stay as a guest.
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16:16	RealBadAngel	still havent installed those damn drivers
16:17	OldCoder	Which ones?
16:17	VanessaE	bbl
16:17	RealBadAngel	i bet those bastards from amd makin such troubles for linux users on purpose
16:17	OldCoder	Hah
16:17	ruskie	heh
16:17	OldCoder	What is the card or chipset?
16:17	OldCoder	AMD I gather
16:17	OldCoder	More specific?
16:17	RealBadAngel	hd 5550
16:18	RealBadAngel	its not any longer supported
16:18	RealBadAngel	1,5yrs old card
16:18	RealBadAngel	fuckin bastards
16:18	ruskie	that's because it goes to the open source drivers
16:18	Calinou	jordach: i know, anyway the hat layer is ignored if it has no transparent pixels
16:18	RealBadAngel	theyre way slower
16:18	Calinou	RealBadAngel: it is supported
16:18	Calinou	radeon < 5000 series are not
16:18	Calinou	5000 series is
16:19	RealBadAngel	it isnt
16:19	OldCoder	Wait
16:19	Calinou	it is, at least in ubuntu 12.10
16:19	RealBadAngel	Your card is not supported
16:19	OldCoder	Nouveau is part of that set
16:19	OldCoder	Wait
16:19	RealBadAngel	im downloading 12.2 catalyst now
16:19	OldCoder	The new Frame Buffer drivers
16:20	OldCoder	Bleeding Edge might work
16:20	RealBadAngel	12.4 installed but no opengl
16:21	OldCoder	Might need to compile the latest stuff. How much work is this worth?
16:21	RealBadAngel	i need to make this box running
16:21	RealBadAngel	with the proper drivers
16:21	RealBadAngel	open source are way too slow
16:23	OldCoder	RealBadAngel, Not necessarily if you build yourself
16:23	OldCoder	I switched to Nouveau a year ago; never looked back
16:23	OldCoder	It's great
16:23	OldCoder	No more NVidia crap
16:23	RealBadAngel	if i fail with propertiaty i may be forced to go this way
16:23	RealBadAngel	we will see
16:24	OldCoder	Very well
16:24	RealBadAngel	i made the card workin ok once with ubuntu 12.04 on this box when tested it
16:24	OldCoder	k
16:24	RealBadAngel	so i believe it shall be possible with debian too
16:25	ruskie	hmm my e350 has a hd 6310 card and I know that one doesn't work well with the open source drivers yet... so using fglrx with it on debian
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16:26	ruskie	but I still prefer the open source drivers since they have better multiscreen support
16:26	RealBadAngel	wow this time with no error warnings
16:26	OldCoder	I prefer Open Source drivers because I need to package this stuff. Nightmare to deal with piles of binary blobs and license issues.
16:26	RealBadAngel	goin to reboot
16:27	OldCoder	Good luck
16:27	ruskie	OldCoder, hehe yeah I'm familiar with such crud
16:27	RealBadAngel	i may need that :)
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16:29	RealBadAngel	ok, got it workin
16:29	RealBadAngel	60fps again
16:30	Calinou	<OldCoder> I switched to Nouveau a year ago; never looked back
16:30	ruskie	heh
16:30	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, who is the patch going?
16:30	ruskie	I tend to be happy with 30fps
16:30	Calinou	nouveau is on average 8 times slower on fermi/kepler cards
16:30	Calinou	it is 5% faster than nvidia driver on 8600gt
16:30	Calinou	few people have series 8 nvidia cards today
16:30	Calinou	nouveau handles fermi and kepler terribly
16:30	Calinou	and my card uses fermi architecture
16:30	Calinou	YEY
16:31	RealBadAngel	PilzAdam, im almost ready with move from windows to debian
16:31	RealBadAngel	have already compiled up to date git
16:31	OldCoder	Calinou, Nouveau can be packaged. You know what I used to do? I had copies of about five NVidia binary install packages. Had to write scripts to reinstall bits and pieces from those monsters whenever the user booted on a new PC.
16:31	RealBadAngel	now i need to figure why theres no sound
16:32	RealBadAngel	and thats all
16:32	OldCoder	I doubt it was even legal
16:32	OldCoder	RealBadAngel, Progress is good
16:32	ruskie	OldCoder, if it was inside an organisation it would be
16:32	OldCoder	ruskie, No; I run a distro
16:32	ruskie	ahh
16:32	OldCoder	To Hell with that kind of sh*t
16:32	RealBadAngel	when im ready with it, ntfs partitions will go to hell
16:32	ruskie	hehe
16:32	ruskie	then yeah most likely not hehe
16:32	OldCoder	RealBadAngel, Actually NTFS is well behaved now if you run ntfs next generation layer
16:33	ruskie	that's why most distros have packages that pull the upstream sources
16:33	RealBadAngel	i meant "fuck you Gates"
16:33	ruskie	btw OldCoder what distro?
16:33	OldCoder	ruskie, I am monolithic
16:33	OldCoder	Mine
16:33	OldCoder	One minute
16:33	OldCoder	Somebody is paging. I will link you after.
16:35	RealBadAngel	its not the problem with minetest, theres no sound at all
16:35	ruskie	RealBadAngel, muted most likely
16:35	ruskie	run alsamixer and unmute stuff
16:36	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, try install pacuvontrol; it worked for me on Kubuntu
16:36	ruskie	only if using pulseaudio
16:37	OldCoder	ruskie, links follow:
16:37	RealBadAngel	it was muted, right
16:37	OldCoder	Game screenshots: http://oldcoder.org/distro/ssdistro/ssdistrogames.html
16:37	RealBadAngel	but mt is playin weird sounds
16:37	ruskie	too many times I helped people with the alsa default muted
16:37	OldCoder	Multimedia: http://oldcoder.org/distro/ssdistro/ssdistromedia.html
16:37	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, thats normal ;-)
16:37	OldCoder	Distro history and purpose: http://oldcoder.org/distro/ssdistro/ssdistromedia.html
16:37	OldCoder	Whitepaper: http://oldcoder.org/distro/distronotes.html
16:37	OldCoder	Done
16:37	OldCoder
16:37	RealBadAngel	those laser sounds? kinda
16:37	Calinou	OldCoder: nvidia can be packaged, duh
16:38	OldCoder	Calinou, Nope
16:38	Calinou	how does ubuntu gets their drivers? packages.
16:38	Calinou	nvida-glx
16:38	Calinou	says no
16:38	OldCoder	Actually I did package it
16:38	OldCoder	But see notes above
16:38	ruskie	OldCoder, thanks
16:38	OldCoder	ruskie, you are most welcome
16:38	Calinou	<RealBadAngel> when im ready with it, ntfs partitions will go to hell
16:38	Calinou	ntfs sucks, +1
16:40	PilzAdam	+1
16:41	RealBadAngel	ofc when im done with copying all the repos and workin dirs
16:41	celeron55	(it sucks if you are running something else than windows)
16:42	RealBadAngel	c55 today is the day im gettin rid of windows
16:42	iqualfragile	ntfs suchs bad
16:42	OldCoder	Windows is Sindows
16:42	iqualfragile	rba: great!
16:42	RealBadAngel	still, sounds are fucked up
16:43	RealBadAngel	instead of music effects i can hear some random noises
16:43	RealBadAngel	any ideas?
16:43	PilzAdam	mute it
16:44	OldCoder	Using ALSA?
16:44	RealBadAngel	yup
16:45	iqualfragile	get rid of pulseaudio
16:45	OldCoder	May need to tweak the settings
16:45	OldCoder	And BTW Pulse is a problem
16:45	Calinou	no u
16:45	ruskie	iirc debian by default doesn't come with PA
16:45	RealBadAngel	itegrated hd audio
16:45	Calinou	<RealBadAngel> c55 today is the day im gettin rid of windows
16:45	Calinou	what distro?
16:45	RealBadAngel	debian
16:45	Calinou	have fun installing drivers/firmware
16:45	Calinou	:D
16:45	ruskie	Calinou, dead easy
16:45	RealBadAngel	already installed ati ones
16:46	Calinou	the MS-DOS way(R)
16:46	Calinou	sure easy
16:46	RealBadAngel	just the sound problem left
16:46	ruskie	there's a package for fglrx and firmware
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16:46	RealBadAngel	you just have to know which one
16:46	Calinou	yey, editing the inexistant xorg.conf FTW
16:46	RealBadAngel	in my case that was catalyst 12.2
16:46	NekoGloop	which... what? :P
16:46	Calinou	reading documentation from 2005 ftw
16:47	RealBadAngel	calinou, no edidting was needed, just tryin different drivers builds
16:48	ruskie	installing fglrx-driver from non-free generally works
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16:48	RealBadAngel	anybody remember how to start stop pulse audio?
16:48	ruskie	of course I am on testing so that might be it
16:48	ruskie	RealBadAngel, you probably don't have it installed
16:49	RealBadAngel	i do have volume control
16:49	ruskie	RealBadAngel, but check /etc/init.d/
16:49	RealBadAngel	and can hear some weird sounds
16:49	ruskie	for anything pa or pulseaudio related
16:49	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, pulseaudio --kill
16:49	RealBadAngel	and to bring it back?
16:49	PilzAdam	--start
16:49	PilzAdam	(see manpage=
16:49	PilzAdam	*)
16:51	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, check if its running: pulseaudio --check & echo $?
16:51	PilzAdam	0 = running
16:52	RealBadAngel	shit i had just alsa
16:52	RealBadAngel	no pulseaudio at all
16:52	ruskie	well that's not bad
16:52	RealBadAngel	installed it, goin for reboot
16:52	ruskie	you really don't need pulseaudio
16:52	RealBadAngel	alsa doesnt work
16:52	ruskie	well pulseaudio will go through alsa
16:53	ruskie	so if alsa doesn't work what makes you thing pulseaudio will...
16:53	ruskie	pulseaudio runs on top of alsa
16:53	RealBadAngel	dunno :)
16:53	RealBadAngel	i will give it a try
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16:57	RealBadAngel	well, it helped
16:57	RealBadAngel	got the sound
16:58	RealBadAngel	:)
16:58	PilzAdam	so you have pulseadio now?
16:58	RealBadAngel	yes
16:59	RealBadAngel	now the decent wallpaper and i can start to feel like home
16:59	ruskie	huh
16:59	ruskie	erm heh
17:00	RealBadAngel	who said pulseaudio install wont help? huh?
17:00	RealBadAngel	:)
17:00	jin_xi	well, pulseaudio sucks
17:01	PilzAdam	well, no
17:01	RealBadAngel	as long it works i can live with it
17:01	ruskie	hopefully you won't run into a wall with something not working
17:01	jin_xi	i do audio work. i've come to hate pa with a passion
17:01	RealBadAngel	so now i have workin compile and play enviroment for mt
17:01	RealBadAngel	cool
17:02	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, now fix that falling
17:02	RealBadAngel	sure thingy
17:02	PilzAdam	i realy dunno why i dont do it...
17:02	RealBadAngel	then i go for formspec
17:02	PilzAdam	maybe because you can test it better
17:03	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, i will create a branch in my repo and you can test it, ok?
17:03	RealBadAngel	PilzAdam, maybe because i discover it and you lettin me fix it? :)
17:03	NekoGloop	how the hell do i do anything in realtest...?
17:04	PilzAdam	NekoGloop, with keyboard and mouse... ?
17:04	RealBadAngel	ive tried to play the mod for mc, terrafirma craft
17:04	RealBadAngel	its really hard
17:04	RealBadAngel	but some can find it fun
17:05	NekoGloop	I cant make a pickaxe like the modmaker states.
17:06	RealBadAngel	youre propably missing somethin
17:06	RealBadAngel	ask him
17:06	NekoGloop	< already dud
17:06	NekoGloop	did
17:07	RealBadAngel	i try to join server now
17:07	NekoGloop	what server?
17:07	RealBadAngel	i can see lotsa error messages
17:07	ruskie	not everything is an error
17:08	RealBadAngel	18:07:01: ERROR[main]: Client: Cannot create image from data of file "nether_tree_top.jpg"
17:08	RealBadAngel	JPEG FATAL ERROR: Wrong JPEG library version: library is 80, caller expects 62
17:08	ruskie	but it did say you were connected
17:08	ruskie	ahh
17:08	RealBadAngel	what the fuck is nether tree?
17:08	ruskie	you need a diff version of the binary
17:08	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/commit/21317be49362ed13701ab5ab609020f8bfbec418
17:09	ruskie	RealBadAngel, the error is simply... the mt you have is built against libjpeg 8 while you have libjpeg 6
17:09	ruskie	RealBadAngel, did you build mt yourself... or using some package?
17:09	RealBadAngel	built it
17:09	ruskie	odd
17:09	RealBadAngel	PIlzAdam, you could wait for me :(
17:10	RealBadAngel	ruskie: shall i upgrade some libraries?
17:10	ruskie	shouldn't be needed
17:10	ruskie	something is odd though...
17:10	ruskie	check what versions you have of jpeg
17:10	ruskie	dpkg -l \| grep jpeg
17:10	RealBadAngel	i pasted install needed libraries as it was stated on github
17:11	RealBadAngel	dpkg -l \| grep jpeg
17:11	RealBadAngel	ii libjpeg62 6b1-1 The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG runtime library (version 6.2)
17:11	RealBadAngel	ii libjpeg8 8b-1 The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG runtime library
17:11	RealBadAngel	ii libjpeg8-dev 8b-1 Development files for the IJG JPEG library
17:11	RealBadAngel	ii libopenjpeg2 1.3+dfsg-4 JPEG 2000 image compression/decompression library
17:11	ruskie	hmm
17:11	NekoGloop	Oh, i can find stone lying around and make a pickaxe from those.
17:11	NekoGloop	Cool.
17:12	ruskie	RealBadAngel, ok... you have both libjpeg8 and libjpeg62 installed... so it's picking the wrong lib probably
17:12	RealBadAngel	remove older one?
17:12	ruskie	try removing libjpeg62
17:12	RealBadAngel	how?
17:12	ruskie	see if anything complains
17:12	ruskie	apt-get remove libjpeg62
17:12	PilzAdam	apt?
17:12	PilzAdam	on debian?
17:13	ruskie	PilzAdam, you don't read much do you... it has been said he's using debian
17:13	ruskie	;)
17:13	PilzAdam	I always thought debian had no apt...
17:14	ruskie	apt originated on debian
17:14	ruskie	dpkg, apt, aptitude
17:14	jin_xi	huh, thats where apt comes from
17:14	RealBadAngel	its removing lotsa stuff
17:14	RealBadAngel	shit
17:14	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, thats good for memory
17:14	ruskie	RealBadAngel, then don't
17:14	ruskie	I believe it asks you before you do it
17:14	ruskie	could try an update first
17:15	RealBadAngel	yes, it did
17:15	RealBadAngel	but now i can see it removed circa 100 entries
17:15	ruskie	it told you it would remove them
17:15	ruskie	hehe
17:15	ruskie	it prints a list
17:15	RealBadAngel	even rhytmbox was removed
17:15	PilzAdam	apt-get remove *
17:16	ruskie	RealBadAngel, hit ctrl+s on that terminal... then screll up and copy the remove list... so you can reinstall it
17:16	ruskie	erm scroll up
17:17	ruskie	ctrl+s freezes scrolling
17:17	ruskie	ctrl+q unfreezes it
17:17	RealBadAngel	jesus
17:17	RealBadAngel	lookin at the list it have uninstalled half of the system
17:17	ruskie	yeah
17:17	ruskie	that's why I said see if anything complains
17:18	ruskie	you can reinstall it all
17:18	ruskie	you have the list... copy it to some file
17:18	ruskie	and when it's done install it with apt-get install thatlist
17:18	RealBadAngel	i just have messages
17:18	RealBadAngel	that a package was removed
17:18	ruskie	scroll up
17:18	ruskie	above the point it asked you to remove it
17:18	Calinou	PilzAdam: you should fix "mining" air giving air blocks
17:19	Calinou	add drop = "" to air and ignore definitions
17:19	Calinou	and commit :p
17:19	RealBadAngel	i dont know if the list is complete
17:19	ruskie	RealBadAngel, do you see the start of the command?
17:19	RealBadAngel	i cant see command i issued
17:19	ruskie	ahh
17:20	ruskie	it would start with Packages to be REMOVED: list
17:20	RealBadAngel	list were too long
17:20	RealBadAngel	i guess im in the middle of the list
17:20	ruskie	RealBadAngel, cat: /var/log/apt/history.log
17:20	ruskie	check that
17:20	ruskie	should give you the full comand line
17:21	RealBadAngel	lol
17:21	RealBadAngel	i cannot even run new terminal
17:21	ruskie	?
17:21	ruskie	ohh it was probably removed
17:21	RealBadAngel	xchat was unistalled too
17:21	RealBadAngel	lol
17:21	ruskie	yeah anything you have opened will stay so
17:21	ruskie	wait for it to finish removing
17:22	ruskie	ctrl+q to release the scroll
17:22	ruskie	and see if it's done yet
17:22	RealBadAngel	a sec
17:23	RealBadAngel	got cat
17:23	ruskie	yeah it won't hose the system you would just need to reinstall everything
17:24	RealBadAngel	http://pastebin.com/c6hx1KSm
17:24	ruskie	now you can just do apt-get install and the list of packages
17:24	ruskie	ahh
17:24	PilzAdam	w00t
17:24	ruskie	ok lemme get you a cleaner way
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17:26	ruskie	btw any reason you're using 32bit instead of 64bit version?
17:27	RealBadAngel	no reason
17:27	RealBadAngel	ah, maybe before i had problem with finding 64 bit libraries on one distro
17:27	RealBadAngel	some version of ubuntu i guess
17:28	ruskie	grep Remove: /var/log/apt/history.log \| tr ',' '\n' \| sed -e "s/Remove: //" -e "s:(.*)::" -e "s/:i386//" \| tr "\n" " "
17:28	ruskie	RealBadAngel, try that
17:28	ruskie	should give you a list you can just copy paste to reinstall
17:28	NekoGloop	dat feeling when you can see each individual frame being processed...
17:28	RealBadAngel	told me access denied
17:28	RealBadAngel	(im on root)
17:29	RealBadAngel	rootHaven:/home/realbadangel# /var/log/apt/history.log \| tr ',' '\n' \| sed -e "s/Remove: //" -e "s:(.*)::" -e "s/:i386//" \| tr "\n" " "
17:29	RealBadAngel	bash: /var/log/apt/history.log: Brak dostÄ™pu
17:29	ruskie	odd
17:29	ruskie	ok lemme pastbin the list
17:29	RealBadAngel	brak dostepu means Access denied
17:29	ruskie	http://sprunge.us/OZHd?raw
17:29	ruskie	there
17:29	ruskie	there's the list
17:30	PilzAdam	Calinou, https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/commit/936411e4d144eb5d5d11d84c7e6f2df29ef70a8c
17:30	RealBadAngel	got it
17:30	RealBadAngel	so now?
17:30	ruskie	RealBadAngel, apt-get install thatlist
17:31	RealBadAngel	can you omit that 1 at the start?
17:31	ruskie	???
17:31	RealBadAngel	i cannot edit such long command list
17:31	ruskie	yeah
17:32	ruskie	that's just from the pastebin
17:32	NekoGloop	in realtest, you're stuck with no metal.
17:32	NekoGloop	because there is -no- coal.
17:33	NekoGloop	that and i cant make a fucking anvil...
17:33	ruskie	RealBadAngel, you can copy the list into a file then do: apt-get install $(cat file) and it will use the file for the list
17:34	RealBadAngel	installing
17:34	RealBadAngel	managed to copy it
17:34	RealBadAngel	damn, almost nothin is workin here atm
17:34	RealBadAngel	even openin link in browser opens kinda terminal text based browser lol
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17:35	ruskie	yeah it threw you to the terminal browser
17:35	ruskie	as the default one
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17:35	RealBadAngel	glad i havent closed browser and terminals lol
17:35	ruskie	learn to use irssi in a terminal
17:36	ruskie	then you can always do it directly in console
17:36	ruskie	without needing X
17:36	RealBadAngel	heheh
17:36	RealBadAngel	i will rather stick to GUI
17:36	ruskie	well a lot of people use irssi
17:37	ruskie	for irc there is no real reason to use GUI
17:37	PilzAdam	Calinou, done
17:37	RealBadAngel	i do remember bitchx
17:37	RealBadAngel	and split wars
17:38	RealBadAngel	some of the ircnet servers were located in world trade center buildings
17:40	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, can you test the falling fix? I want it to be tested before merge it upstream
17:41	RealBadAngel	PilzAdam, not now, im fixing removal of one library which caused hundreds of entries to be removed
17:41	RealBadAngel	hold on
17:42	PilzAdam	I know, when will you be ready?
17:42	RealBadAngel	soon i think
17:42	PilzAdam	s/think/hope
17:42	RealBadAngel	list is downloaded and executin
17:43	RealBadAngel	lets hope it will all work again
17:43	PilzAdam	I removed Nepomuk (a basic package) on kubuntu and the whole system crashed, reinstalling didnt help
17:43	PilzAdam	after a shutdown it didnt boot anymore
17:44	PilzAdam	i had to reinstall the whole system
17:44	RealBadAngel	i havent restarted yet
17:44	RealBadAngel	without ruskie help i bet it will end with reinstall
17:45	RealBadAngel	well apt ended its work
17:45	ruskie	hehe
17:45	RealBadAngel	even wallpaper is back
17:46	RealBadAngel	was plain green before
17:46	RealBadAngel	shall i try to reboot? :)
17:46	ruskie	that should still work
17:46	PilzAdam	first try minetest
17:46	RealBadAngel	its still open
17:47	RealBadAngel	restarting it
17:47	RealBadAngel	JPEG FATAL ERROR: Wrong JPEG library version: library is 80, caller expects 62
17:47	RealBadAngel	18:47:25: ERROR[main]: Client: Cannot create image from data of file "technic_music_player_top.png"
17:47	ruskie	RealBadAngel, now try apt-get dist-upgrade
17:47	ruskie	to update to the latest packages
17:48	ruskie	or you could find where the right library is
17:48	RealBadAngel	all is up to date
17:48	RealBadAngel	used net install
17:48	ruskie	then try this: dpkg -L libjpeg8
17:49	ruskie	should list: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libjpeg.so.8
17:49	RealBadAngel	rootHaven:/home/realbadangel# dpkg -L libjpeg8
17:49	RealBadAngel	/usr/lib
17:49	RealBadAngel	/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.8.0.2
17:49	RealBadAngel	/usr/share
17:49	RealBadAngel	/usr/share/doc
17:49	RealBadAngel	/usr/share/doc/libjpeg8
17:49	ruskie	ow...
17:49	RealBadAngel	/usr/share/doc/libjpeg8/changelog.Debian.gz
17:49	RealBadAngel	/usr/share/doc/libjpeg8/copyright
17:49	RealBadAngel	/usr/share/doc/libjpeg8/changelog.gz
17:49	RealBadAngel	/usr/share/doc/libjpeg8/README.gz
17:49	RealBadAngel	/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.8
17:49	ruskie	ow right... I'm on testing
17:49	ruskie	do an ldd minetest
17:49	ruskie	ldd being the command
17:49	ruskie	should list what library is finding
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17:50	babyface1031	RealBadAngel any new MV come soon i LOVE your mods :D
17:50	RealBadAngel	http://pastebin.com/TDdw5K9Y
17:51	RealBadAngel	babyface1031, before weekend ends, for sure
17:51	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, ldd minetest \| grep jpeg
17:51	babyface1031	:D
17:51	ruskie	RealBadAngel, hmm... what about dpkg -L libjpeg62
17:51	ruskie	seems like there's some confusion there...
17:51	ruskie	it's linked to 8 but expects 62
17:52	RealBadAngel	like game wants 62
17:52	ruskie	RealBadAngel, yeah but according to the ldd it's linked to .8
17:52	RealBadAngel	rootHaven:/home/realbadangel# dpkg -L libjpeg62
17:52	RealBadAngel	/usr/lib
17:52	RealBadAngel	/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62.0.0
17:52	RealBadAngel	/usr/share
17:52	RealBadAngel	/usr/share/doc
17:52	RealBadAngel	/usr/share/doc/libjpeg62
17:52	RealBadAngel	/usr/share/doc/libjpeg62/changelog.gz
17:52	NekoGloop	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPEnNLuvqQY
17:52	RealBadAngel	/usr/share/doc/libjpeg62/README.gz
17:52	RealBadAngel	/usr/share/doc/libjpeg62/changelog.Debian.gz
17:52	ruskie	try a ls -la /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.8
17:52	RealBadAngel	/usr/share/doc/libjpeg62/copyright
17:52	RealBadAngel	/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62
17:53	ruskie	RealBadAngel, might want to use pastbin
17:53	ruskie	I'd try rebuilding the game
17:53	NekoGloop	I'd make a cake.
17:53	PilzAdam	NekoGloop, what a cake
17:53	PilzAdam	?
17:53	RealBadAngel	same error messages
17:54	ruskie	RealBadAngel, how did you build minetest?
17:54	RealBadAngel	drun in place =1
17:55	RealBadAngel	make -j2
17:55	ruskie	RealBadAngel, in the dir you built it check: grep -i jpeg CMake*
17:55	RealBadAngel	and this before:
17:55	RealBadAngel	apt-get install build-essential libirrlicht-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg8-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev
17:56	RealBadAngel	CMakeCache.txt:JPEG_INCLUDE_DIR:PATH=/usr/include
17:56	RealBadAngel	CMakeCache.txt:JPEG_LIBRARY:FILEPATH=/usr/lib/libjpeg.so
17:56	RealBadAngel	CMakeCache.txt://Details about finding JPEG
17:56	RealBadAngel	CMakeCache.txt:FIND_PACKAGE_MESSAGE_DETAILS_JPEG:INTERNAL=[/usr/lib/libjpeg.so][/usr/include]
17:56	RealBadAngel	CMakeCache.txt://ADVANCED property for variable: JPEG_INCLUDE_DIR
17:56	RealBadAngel	CMakeCache.txt:JPEG_INCLUDE_DIR-ADVANCED:INTERNAL=1
17:56	RealBadAngel	CMakeCache.txt://ADVANCED property for variable: JPEG_LIBRARY
17:56	RealBadAngel	CMakeCache.txt:JPEG_LIBRARY-ADVANCED:INTERNAL=1
17:56	ruskie	pastebin stuff
17:57	ruskie	but ok
17:57	RealBadAngel	ah sorry
17:57	ruskie	do an ls -la /usr/lib/libjpeg.so
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17:57	ruskie	where is it pointing to?
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17:57	RealBadAngel	8
17:57	PilzAdam	Calinou_, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/755df5f659899e961a7b1875837088fbc6cc1a55
17:58	RealBadAngel	lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 11-03 08:35 /usr/lib/libjpeg.so -> libjpeg.so.8.0.2
17:59	RealBadAngel	PilzAdam, thats good
18:00	RealBadAngel	seen too many unknown lately
18:00	RealBadAngel	have way too many checks if name==ignore
18:00	RealBadAngel	and gettin unknown ones still
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18:06	RealBadAngel	heh, 30fps with enabled full view range is cool
18:07	GTRsdk	awesome
18:07	ruskie	heh
18:07	ruskie	don't think I get that many
18:07	* GTRsdk	wishes he could have 40 FPS on full view mode
18:07	ruskie	but then I don't have a dedicated card... just the e350's APU
18:07	RealBadAngel	according to AMD i do have old card
18:08	RealBadAngel	not supported anymore
18:08	* PilzAdam	gets ~200 FPS in full view range
18:08	RealBadAngel	PilzAdam, i will get such one as a present on xmas for me :)
18:09	PilzAdam	its called nVidia GTX 460
18:09	PilzAdam	+ intel code i7
18:09	RealBadAngel	how much?
18:09	PilzAdam	*core
18:09	PilzAdam	1G
18:10	PilzAdam	= 1024 MB
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18:16	artur99	hi
18:17	PilzAdam	hi
18:17	RealBadAngel	ruskie?
18:17	artur99	hi
18:17	ruskie	RealBadAngel, ?
18:18	RealBadAngel	what about pointing to 62
18:19	ruskie	might break other stuff
18:19	ruskie	you did try the workaround?
18:19	RealBadAngel	hmmm, that dep mt introduced?
18:19	RealBadAngel	that it wanted 62 and found 8?
18:20	ruskie	the one I send you in PM
18:21	artur99	how to make silicon from? how to use that 2 ingredients?
18:21	ruskie	you need to put each into the alloy furnace
18:21	ruskie	either electric or the normal one
18:22	RealBadAngel	put sand and coal dust into alloy furnace
18:22	RealBadAngel	coal dust you get grinding coal in grinder
18:23	RealBadAngel	alloy furnaces have 2 slots
18:23	RealBadAngel	input slots i mean
18:25	artur99	aaa
18:25	artur99	how to make bricks?
18:26	ruskie	clay lumps that you get from clay
18:26	artur99	and where to get clays?
18:27	ruskie	from clay blocks
18:27	ruskie	you can find them in the areas around water
18:27	artur99	aaa
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18:33	Octupus	Hi
18:38	OldCoder	Hi
18:38	OldCoder	artur99, Hello
18:38	Octupus	:)
18:38	OldCoder	artur99, welcome back
18:38	Octupus	hexchat is pretty nice :)
18:39	artur99	hi
18:39	Octupus	hi artur99
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18:40	artur99	if i use the mining laser, it will dig 4 spaces
18:40	Octupus	hi cisoun
18:40	artur99	but if i use mining drill, it will dig a single place
18:40	Octupus	yes
18:40	Octupus	but the mining laser dig like this
18:40	Octupus	air block air block air block air block
18:41	artur99	and is working lower than a pickaxe
18:41	cisoun	hi
18:47	Calinou_	PilzAdam: thanks :D
18:47	RealBadAngel	artur99, not slower. you have just to click for each node dug
18:48	RealBadAngel	and try to dig mese with pickaxe and mining drill
18:48	Octupus	Hi RealBadAngel
18:48	RealBadAngel	hi
18:48	Calinou_	PilzAdam: add https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/268 maybe?
18:48	RealBadAngel	you will notice mining drill is way faster then
18:49	Calinou_	and this one maybe too: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/243
18:50	PilzAdam	Calinou_, already had an eye on this
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19:17	T_A_N_K	texture leaks were fixed?!?!?!
19:17	T_A_N_K	:D
19:17	T_A_N_K	https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/41c00e87d42580881d8c7001f39014814e3b55f2
19:17	NekoGloop	:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
19:17	artur99	how to active the solar pannel?
19:18	T_A_N_K	Will this fix the no more textures bug?!
19:18	PilzAdam	T_A_N_K, not 100%
19:18	T_A_N_K	oh okay, can i have my better digging animation commited?
19:19	artur99	how to active the solar pannel?
19:19	PilzAdam	make a pull request
19:19	NekoGloop	artur99: with sunlight.
19:20	artur99	is day, the pannel is on the ground, up, in the front of the sun, but nothing...
19:21	NekoGloop	is there something above the panel?
19:21	NekoGloop	is it in -complete- sunlight?
19:21	ruskie	artur99, is it wired to your battery?
19:21	NekoGloop	oh yeah, and you need a batbox.
19:22	NekoGloop	(that got me too for a while x3)
19:23	T_A_N_K	when jeija logs on tell him to commit his inertia for players walking from block planet and to commit that you cannot fly through blocks from blockplanet
19:23	artur99	yes
19:23	artur99	is wired
19:25	NekoGloop	is it wired to a battery box, and THEN to your machine?
19:25	T_A_N_K	commited https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/minetest/commit/37d6c3a2f19854caf6dfeb352cb9f6c50bb52757
19:25	artur99	i have a bettery box, everithing is wired
19:25	artur99	yes
19:26	T_A_N_K	also, pilzadam, do you know how in minecraft when you look and move around it will actually move your wield item and wield hand?
19:26	PilzAdam	yea i saw that
19:27	T_A_N_K	would that be possible in minetest?
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19:28	PilzAdam	T_A_N_K, somehow
19:28	T_A_N_K	:D
19:29	artur99	how to creeate an electric lamp?
19:29	T_A_N_K	make the client get players position, then on the next frame get the position again, then compare, and move around the wield item according to that
19:29	T_A_N_K	same for the camera's movement
19:32	artur99	how to creeate an electric lamp?
19:33	NekoGloop	artur99: you dont; technic has no electric lamp
19:33	NekoGloop	mesecons has one though.
19:33	NekoGloop	also, these things called forums. Learn to use them.
19:34	artur99	i searched
19:34	NekoGloop	...
19:34	artur99	but i dont find... when wil be?
19:34	artur99	*didnt find
19:34	NekoGloop	you are a moron, you know that right?
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19:38	NekoGloop	wb T_A_N_K
19:38	T_A_N_K	ty
19:38	PilzAdam	T_A_N_K, im testing your digging animation
19:39	T_A_N_K	minetest is getting speed updates and aesthetics and fixes i'm so excited :D
19:39	T_A_N_K	okay awesome
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19:40	NekoGloop	T_A_N_K: having issues?
19:40	PilzAdam	T_A_N_K, thanks to c55 giving me, xyz and darkrose push access
19:41	T_A_N_K	awesome sauce, and no switched to quassel
19:42	RealBadAngel	NekoGloop, some1 made electric lamp for technic already
19:42	RealBadAngel	but im not sure on shall i include it
19:42	NekoGloop	RealBadAngel: yeah but isnt in it. :P
19:42	RealBadAngel	should i?
19:43	NekoGloop	sure
19:43	RealBadAngel	will add it then
19:43	RealBadAngel	code is ok, just need to register power machine
19:43	PilzAdam	T_A_N_K, would it be possible to use the old digging animation if you have a node selected?
19:44	PilzAdam	yours looks nice foor tools and hand, but somehow strange for nodes
19:44	T_A_N_K	idk, is there a way to actually get the node your holding?
19:44	PilzAdam	they go to far away from you
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19:44	PilzAdam	dunnno, you made the patch ;-)
19:44	PilzAdam	but it still looks awesome!
19:45	Muadtralk	what patch?
19:45	OdnetninI	what looks awesome?
19:45	PilzAdam	https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/minetest/commit/37d6c3a2f19854caf6dfeb352cb9f6c50bb52757
19:45	PilzAdam	T_A_N_K's digging animation
19:45	Muadtralk	oh yes
19:45	Muadtralk	ive seen it already
19:45	PilzAdam	but for nodes the old one looks better
19:45	T_A_N_K	man, now i will have to search the edge of the earth to find how to get the wielded item
19:46	Muadtralk	now all we need is semitransparency support
19:46	Muadtralk	so the crack animation is not shite
19:46	* Octupus	is back
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19:46	NekoGloop	Muadtralk: we do have that.
19:47	NekoGloop	the current crack animation uses semitransparencty.
19:47	Muadtralk	hmmm?
19:47	Muadtralk	never seen such lies
19:48	NekoGloop	look for yourself.
19:48	Muadtralk	hmmmm
19:48	Muadtralk	i was not aware of this
19:48	Muadtralk	i should check my eye sight
19:49	* PilzAdam	can confirm what NekoGloop says
19:49	Muadtralk	i looked
19:49	Muadtralk	man i must have been blind
19:50	OdnetninI	the mod, looks better than other one
19:52	PilzAdam	yay! im #4 on this list: http://www.ohloh.net/p/minetest-c55/contributors
19:55	T_A_N_K	how does this client's camera get the drawtype of the item? :L
19:57	PilzAdam	T_A_N_K, I guess there is a function in the player ref
19:57	T_A_N_K	I am looking in camera.cpp
19:57	PilzAdam	yes, in update there is one param the player
19:57	T_A_N_K	where?
19:58	PilzAdam	https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/src/camera.cpp#L214
20:00	PilzAdam	ok, there is no such function
20:00	artur99	how to make an invizible dorr? just i see it, and other players see wall
20:01	T_A_N_K	gosh darnit
20:01	Octupus	artur99,i dont think u can make that
20:01	T_A_N_K	the only way i can see this working is to get the wield item type from client.cpp
20:01	T_A_N_K	and i am not a c# coder only lua and python
20:01	OdnetninI	is posible to put our player in 3d?
20:02	OldCoder	Not yet
20:02	OldCoder	Taoki is looking at that
20:02	Taoki	Working on it right now
20:02	OdnetninI	ok
20:02	Taoki	I figured out what was wrong, doing part of the attachments
20:02	OdnetninI	thanks taoki
20:02	Taoki	NP
20:04	artur99	i saw on somewone, sometimes in his house i can see a secret pasage, but sometimes i cant see it
20:05	T_A_N_K	would this be the item type? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/src/client.cpp#L1642
20:06	celeron55	PilzAdam: you shouldn't brag around at all with that; you get >2x amount of commits compared to previous contributors because you merge things rather than rebase like i have tended to do
20:07	PilzAdam	I know
20:07	PilzAdam	and i wasnt "bragging"
20:08	artur99	how to make a dorr?
20:09	NekoGloop	there is no such thing as a dorr
20:09	artur99	*door
20:09	PilzAdam	artur99, there are so many door mods...
20:09	NekoGloop	he's incompetent and cant look on the forums
20:15	T_A_N_K	wow this version of minetest is sooo much faster!
20:15	PilzAdam	realy?
20:17	T_A_N_K	yes
20:17	T_A_N_K	even with my mod it's still quite fast
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20:18	T_A_N_K	mode = gamemode
20:18	Octupus_	da hell
20:18	PilzAdam	maybe its the "Don't leak textures all over the place" commit that does it
20:18	Octupus_	i get disconnected
20:20	RealBadAngel	i do have same feeling
20:20	RealBadAngel	like it began to be faster
20:21	PilzAdam	oh and theres the pow with multiplikation replace wich should make it faster
20:25	T_A_N_K	good
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20:26	artur99	can i use dirt for my first conservatory (greenhouse)?
20:26	artur99	:D
20:27	Octupus	artur99,if u want 2
20:28	artur99	so i need dirt, light and wather
20:28	T_A_N_K	yes, this terrain generation is much much faster, even with grass spawning everywhere and random patches of grass i cant outrun the terrain generation almost all the time, nice work
20:28	Octupus	wather?
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20:38	artur99	i dont need water?
20:38	PilzAdam	T_A_N_K, i just noticed that you digging animation is for placing too
20:38	T_A_N_K	yep
20:38	PilzAdam	and this animation looks good for nodes
20:38	T_A_N_K	idk why there wasn't originally different animations
20:39	PilzAdam	so i guess i could live with that and merge it
20:39	artur99	yep= i need or yep=i dont need?
20:39	NekoGloop	next, make a windows build with this. :3
20:39	T_A_N_K	awesome!
20:40	RealBadAngel	to yep or not to yep, that is the question ;)
20:40	PilzAdam	T_A_N_K, you need to convince either xyz or darkrose or c55
20:40	RealBadAngel	and still asnwer is 42
20:40	PilzAdam	i cant merge this alone
20:40	T_A_N_K	idk how to, everyone who saw it liked it, so there, there is my convincing
20:41	NekoGloop	I want a windows build :P
20:41	PilzAdam	NekoGloop, c55 said he wanna create a new official build soon
20:42	T_A_N_K	Here is a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtZWvzkflWU&feature=youtu.be
20:42	T_A_N_K	celeron55 , do you like how it looks?
20:43	NekoGloop	lol @ "THIS IS FREAKIN TERRIBLE GLAGLAGLA"
20:44	Taoki	T_A_N_K: Those particles when digging... :D
20:44	NekoGloop	Taoki: a particles mod.
20:44	T_A_N_K	yes! but it makes it a tiny bit laggy, so i removed it from me game mode
20:44	NekoGloop	if only they werent the whole texture of the node.
20:45	NekoGloop	PilzAdam: 0.4.6?
20:45	PilzAdam	dunno
20:46	T_A_N_K	but maybe in this new build it will be faster again
20:46	NekoGloop	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPEnNLuvqQY :D
20:47	NekoGloop	T_A_N_K: is it at all possible for you to make a windows 32-bit build?
20:47	NekoGloop	(with your digging animation)
20:47	T_A_N_K	probabl
20:47	T_A_N_K	probabbly
20:47	T_A_N_K	probably*
20:47	NekoGloop	and the less lag :D
20:47	NekoGloop	the texture loading thingy-majiggy.
20:48	PilzAdam	NekoGloop, the texture thing is not 100% fixed
20:48	NekoGloop	well its at least better.
20:50	Taoki	Nice, animated water is finally in minetest_game on GIT
20:50	* OldCoder	is resting
20:50	Taoki	I wonder if the new signs are in too (allows text to be displayed firectly in-world like in MC... OldCoder's server has that mod)
20:50	Taoki	Totally a mod I'd like to see in ASAP too :)
20:50	OldCoder	Hi
20:50	OldCoder	Resting now
20:50	Taoki	hi hi
20:51	Taoki	ok
20:51	PilzAdam	Taoki, the water textures are from RBA
20:51	Taoki	nice
20:51	PilzAdam	Taoki, and the signs are more a hack so i guess they dont make it upstream :(
20:51	Taoki	ok. Wonder what hack they're using
20:51	PilzAdam	not a real hack
20:52	Taoki	What do they do exactly that make it a hack and a bad thing though?
20:52	PilzAdam	they use a entity for the texture
20:52	Taoki	Ahhh... for each textured font?
20:53	Taoki	Yeah, doesn't sound very pretty
20:53	PilzAdam	thats not the prefered way, but the only one that is currently possible
20:53	Taoki	correct, not very good then
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20:53	Taoki	If it uses nodeboxes responsably though... well maybe it's not bad then
20:53	NekoGloop	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM9zZL3zS3k&feature=related
20:53	Taoki	If it spawns a LUA entity for each latter then surely no
20:53	Taoki	**letter
20:53	PilzAdam	NekoGloop, spam wave against sky?
20:54	NekoGloop	Yes.
20:54	PilzAdam	Taoki, not for every letter
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20:54	NekoGloop	Had enough of random spam topics.
20:54	Taoki	ok. Maybe not that bad then
20:54	PilzAdam	Taoki, it combines the letter textures
20:54	PilzAdam	entities are the only thing in MT that can change textures at runtime
20:55	Taoki	ouch, ok then
20:55	Taoki	yeah
20:55	PilzAdam	Taoki, if you /clearobjects the world the signs are empty
20:55	RealBadAngel	PilzAdam, i keep diggin on a beach with mesepick
20:55	T_A_N_K	that's POOP
20:55	RealBadAngel	i get contstantly unknown items and flowing_water
20:55	Taoki	That explains why sometimes signs showed as empty on minetest.org. But still a nice mod I guess
20:55	T_A_N_K	in the same escense of the pipes mod, i think a node box for the sign can be achieved
20:56	T_A_N_K	it will have hundreds of combinations, but it would work
20:56	NekoGloop	Taoki: no, that's because signs were placed before mod was inserted.
20:56	NekoGloop	T_A_N_K: spam of node definitions much?
20:56	T_A_N_K	as in every letter is an addition to the nodebox, kind of like the pipes mod
20:56	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, what?
20:56	T_A_N_K	no, actually, but it will have a lot of definitions
20:56	NekoGloop	well over the 65535 limit of minetest.
20:57	Taoki	NekoGloop: I think signs that had the new text on them but sometimes showed sometimes no
20:57	NekoGloop	T_A_N_K: those work by creating a whole new node for EACH AND EVERY combination.
20:57	PilzAdam	Taoki, my reworked signs only need to be punched to update if the text is lost
20:57	T_A_N_K	exactly!
20:57	T_A_N_K	and that's how the signs mod could work
20:57	Taoki	nice
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20:58	NekoGloop	T_A_N_K: think about it. We'd have to make a sign for each possible sentence. Even with just 16 letters, numbers, and symbols, we already have too much for minetest to handle.
20:58	T_A_N_K	not really, but it would be insane to code
20:58	RealBadAngel	PilzAdam, exactly what i said: with using default tool
20:59	RealBadAngel	i get flowing water and unkown items
20:59	* Taoki	would approve of an implementation that somehow modified the fonts on the texture. Dunno how MineCraft does this magic
20:59	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, what do you do exactly?
20:59	RealBadAngel	2 minutes of digging the sand on the beach and got 25 unknowns, and 10 flowing waters
21:00	NekoGloop	Taoki: with a special drawtype.
21:00	RealBadAngel	swinging mese pick just
21:00	RealBadAngel	nothing more
21:00	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, look into your player file and look what the unkonw item is
21:01	RealBadAngel	its on the server
21:01	PilzAdam	latest version?
21:01	RealBadAngel	im on the latest
21:01	RealBadAngel	server propably 0.4.3
21:01	NekoGloop	RealBadAngel: you may have conflicting minetest-versions.
21:02	NekoGloop	OC's server?
21:02	RealBadAngel	EU
21:02	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, can you ask the server owner to send you the player file?
21:02	RealBadAngel	when OC will be around
21:02	NekoGloop	RealBadAngel: it runs on his custom minetest build, found here: minetest.org
21:02	NekoGloop	http://minetest.org even
21:02	RealBadAngel	and i run up to date git
21:03	NekoGloop	http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/mineinfo.html
21:03	Octupus	IM around now
21:03	Octupus	if u ment OC-Me
21:03	NekoGloop	RealBadAngel: probably conflicting minetest-versions.
21:03	RealBadAngel	i guess so
21:03	NekoGloop	RealBadAngel: http://minetest.org/clients/ocminetest-debian-20121020.deb
21:04	RealBadAngel	thx but i do have already modified versions
21:04	RealBadAngel	working on formspec now
21:04	NekoGloop	well that one will let you play on OC's server decently well
21:04	RealBadAngel	fixed images covering slots alrady
21:05	RealBadAngel	now playing with image scaling
21:05	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, tested this? https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/commit/21317be49362ed13701ab5ab609020f8bfbec418
21:05	Octupus	Who is OC
21:05	NekoGloop	Old Coder
21:05	Octupus	oooooooooo :)
21:06	RealBadAngel	PilzAdam, yeah that works. made the same patch before you let me post it
21:06	RealBadAngel	verfied and works
21:06	RealBadAngel	merge it please
21:06	NekoGloop	T_A_N_K: Cross-compiling taking it's sweet time? :P
21:06	T_A_N_K	oh i haven't started yet
21:06	NekoGloop	xD
21:07	T_A_N_K	and anyone who wants antivirus on your linux system here's the gui for clamav deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clamav/ppa/ubuntu precise main
21:07	NekoGloop	well I just want the latest git with your swing animation :3
21:07	RealBadAngel	PilzAdam, now falling nodes are bullet proof, or rather laser proof ;)
21:07	NekoGloop	no other patches are needed :3
21:09	RealBadAngel	PilzAdam, when i get a bit used to the new enviroment i will start to post c++ patches
21:09	PilzAdam	good!
21:10	artur99	how to make a glow glass?
21:10	T_A_N_K	clamtk is a good gui for clamav
21:10	RealBadAngel	torch + glass
21:10	NekoGloop	artur99: torch and glass
21:11	NekoGloop	T_A_N_K: when were you gonna do the compile? :3
21:11	T_A_N_K	later on when i aijafljkgasfd
21:11	T_A_N_K	in about 30 minutes
21:11	NekoGloop	so...
21:11	NekoGloop	ok.
21:13	OdnetninI	how can i help?
21:13	RealBadAngel	bring some beer
21:14	OdnetninI	XD
21:14	RealBadAngel	and chips
21:14	RealBadAngel	:)
21:14	OdnetninI	JAJAJAJA
21:14	RealBadAngel	aber schnell ;)
21:14	NekoGloop	and kick the drunkard out.
21:14	PilzAdam	german?!?!?!
21:14	RealBadAngel	nein
21:15	OdnetninI	now, how can i help?
21:15	RealBadAngel	ick bin ein Berliner nur ;)
21:16	RealBadAngel	drei jahren in Berlin gewohnen
21:16	PilzAdam	Dein Deutsch ist ziemlich schlecht
21:16	jordach	just bring the beers already!!
21:16	RealBadAngel	i know :)
21:16	jordach	ice cold, preferrably
21:17	NekoGloop	jordach: snow:ice cold?
21:17	RealBadAngel	i learned it watchin tv
21:17	RealBadAngel	and talkin to the ppl
21:17	jordach	ice cold, preferrably
21:17	jordach	aw damn
21:17	jordach	hit the up arrow
21:17	PilzAdam	jordach, i thought the britons drink there beer warm?
21:17	jordach	no
21:17	jordach	we like it cold too
21:17	jordach	just not too cold, (4 degrees celcius)
21:19	RealBadAngel	an Eskimoo comes to the bar and asks: whiskey please. barman: with ice? Eskimoo: askin for trouble???
21:19	NekoGloop	Eskimo*
21:20	NekoGloop	Eskimo*
21:20	RealBadAngel	whatever :)
21:20	RealBadAngel	you got the point i think
21:24	RealBadAngel	PilzAdam, hold on
21:24	RealBadAngel	why have you added here .5?????
21:25	PilzAdam	because i round correctly
21:25	PilzAdam	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounding
21:25	RealBadAngel	rounding correctly doesnt mean it will work correctly in MT
21:26	RealBadAngel	it shall be just cut off the float part and left integer
21:26	PilzAdam	it does work correctly if you round correctly
21:26	RealBadAngel	no
21:26	NekoGloop	where is the player entity have its definition?
21:26	RealBadAngel	only integer part shall count
21:27	PilzAdam	so if you have *.99999 you will cut off the 0.99999 part?
21:27	RealBadAngel	float is trash
21:27	RealBadAngel	YES!
21:27	NekoGloop	where is the player entity have its definition?
21:27	PilzAdam	but it is another node then
21:27	Octupus	Son:dad i think im dropping out of school Dad:ok son but remember 1 thing Son:what Dad: i dont like pickles on my big mac
21:27	RealBadAngel	its not about rounding at all
21:27	PilzAdam	NekoGloop, content_cao.cpp
21:27	RealBadAngel	its about that the values shall be integer
21:28	PilzAdam	they are integer after that
21:28	Octupus	u guys understand my jjoke?
21:28	RealBadAngel	so 12.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999 = 12
21:28	artur99	how to make a withe glowglass?
21:28	RealBadAngel	not 13
21:28	RealBadAngel	thats the whole issue
21:28	NekoGloop	RealBadAngel: you are making no sense...
21:28	PilzAdam	yep
21:28	NekoGloop	place the node where it is closest to.
21:29	NekoGloop	not where the numbers minus a decimal place say it should go.
21:29	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, try it with my version, you will see
21:29	RealBadAngel	no, because the node from coord 12 will then go makin love with node on 13
21:29	RealBadAngel	and get stuck fuckin and blinkin there
21:29	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, the position 12.9999 is in the node at 13
21:29	RealBadAngel	no
21:29	NekoGloop	Does the code round the number?
21:29	PilzAdam	12.4 is the node at 12
21:29	RealBadAngel	12 shall stay 12
21:30	NekoGloop	RealBadAngel: If you cant understand logic, dont try.
21:30	RealBadAngel	no matter how many microns close to 13
21:30	Octupus	LISTEN
21:30	jordach	fuck sakes, force itto have no floar
21:30	Octupus	12.999999999999999999999999
21:30	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, please try my version
21:30	Octupus	rounds down
21:30	jordach	-r +t
21:30	Octupus	so 12
21:30	RealBadAngel	just did
21:30	jordach	for god sakes
21:30	* jordach	shakes head
21:31	RealBadAngel	thats why im talkin bout it
21:31	jordach	its like WW3 in here
21:31	NekoGloop	Octupus: no, because the first decimal place is greater than 5.
21:31	NekoGloop	jordach: who's counting?
21:31	RealBadAngel	listen, laser beam is on the edge
21:31	jordach	NekoGloop - i believe Octupus was saying RealBadAnge's method
21:31	RealBadAngel	touched the node at 12.9
21:31	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, simply try my version
21:32	RealBadAngel	why the fuck it shall cause the nede on 13 to fall??
21:32	jordach	ya know what: remove all rounding all together and disallow decimals
21:32	Octupus	yes try to make that a single decimals place
21:33	Octupus	to make that a single decimal is 13
21:33	Octupus	but we are working with 1
21:33	Octupus	*12
21:33	Octupus	so subtract 1
21:34	Octupus	u get your 12
21:35	Octupus	RealBadAngel,this might be your answer ^^
21:35	NekoGloop	RealBadAngel: Octupus: jordach: PilzAdam: if pos.x > floor(pos.x)+0.5 then <insert code here> else if pos.z > floor(pos.z)+0.5 then <insert code here> end end
21:35	NekoGloop	etc.
21:36	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, the integer coordinates of the nodes are exactyl in the middle of the node: http://www.zimg.eu/i/1032828221
21:36	NekoGloop	wow that failed only a bit.
21:36	PilzAdam	so if you have a coord with decimal > 0.5 you are in the next node
21:37	PilzAdam	NekoGloop, your code is shit; here its better: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/commit/21317be49362ed13701ab5ab609020f8bfbec418
21:37	Octupus	can any1 tell me if i can change the colour of glass using an abm with an interval on 2
21:37	PilzAdam	no you cant
21:37	Octupus	chaning the colour every 60 secs?
21:38	PilzAdam	no you cant
21:38	Octupus	oh ok thanks
21:38	NekoGloop	PilzAdam: no, i just didnt finish it.
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21:39	NekoGloop	Octupus: yes you can, but you have to define each color as its own node.
21:39	Octupus	ok how is that done
21:39	Octupus	ik how to make the nodes
21:39	NekoGloop	not sure off the top of my head
21:40	Octupus	il just make single blocks
21:41	NekoGloop	PilzAdam: not every number rounds up.
21:41	PilzAdam	i know
21:43	NekoGloop	PilzAdam: http://pastebin.com/EecDdc1y
21:43	NekoGloop	... fack
21:44	NekoGloop	PilzAdam: this one: http://pastebin.com/w41wWWBC
21:44	Octupus	is i put this line of code can this change the colour of light
21:44	Octupus	light_source_colour = red ,
21:44	NekoGloop	not possible.
21:44	Octupus	ok thanks
21:44	RealBadAngel	PilzAdam, ok, i tested your changes
21:45	NekoGloop	RealBadAngel: this should work: http://pastebin.com/w41wWWBC right?
21:45	RealBadAngel	they work, dunno why rounding them before such way wasnt workin
21:45	babyface1031	talk to VanessaE maybe she can help and add her dyes to the glass
21:45	PilzAdam	NekoGloop, this is shorter and does same: http://pastebin.com/iRDfwmbm
21:46	NekoGloop	how is that better?
21:46	NekoGloop	it doesnt perform any checks.
21:46	PilzAdam	yes, but it has same effect with less code -> faster
21:46	RealBadAngel	btw
21:47	NekoGloop	so if i had a node falling at 2.999, it will be placed at 2.5 instead of 3.5.
21:47	RealBadAngel	adding .5 is and operation that takes time too
21:47	PilzAdam	I know
21:47	RealBadAngel	ha
21:47	PilzAdam	but this 0.00000001 second doesnt matter
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21:47	RealBadAngel	beaten you with your own weapon then :)
21:48	NekoGloop	T_A_N_K: having issues, or are you on webchat for some reason unknown?
21:48	T_A_N_K	no i'm compiling or attemplting to
21:48	NekoGloop	ah.
21:48	RealBadAngel	times 9?
21:48	RealBadAngel	and wheres sand all around? :)
21:49	NekoGloop	what is it with 9? :P
21:49	RealBadAngel	when you hit a node which can fall
21:49	RealBadAngel	all nodes aroud are checked to be falling ones too
21:49	RealBadAngel	even worse
21:49	RealBadAngel	theres recursion in it
21:50	Octupus	light_source = 50,
21:50	NekoGloop	Octupus: wont work
21:50	Octupus	any1 belive that is to much :P
21:50	Octupus	how much is the rescrictions then?
21:50	NekoGloop	LIGHT_MAX does actually represent the max light minetest will allow.
21:51	Octupus	ok i will do tht
21:51	PilzAdam	Octupus, LIGHT_MAX = 15
21:51	NekoGloop	PilzAdam: no, LIGHT_MAX is 14.
21:51	NekoGloop	stop assuming you're right.
21:51	Octupus	il try 15 if it dont work il try 14
21:52	RealBadAngel	PilzAdam, so i will shoot pile of sand, +.5 can be actually be executed dozens of times
21:52	RealBadAngel	not only 9
21:53	RealBadAngel	if one of those 9 is also a falling one it calls itself again
21:53	NekoGloop	thus devastating CPUs worldwide.
21:53	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, this will make MT realy slow</ironic>
21:53	NekoGloop	PilzAdam is such a maniacal evil genius. Or idiot, one of the two.
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21:54	RealBadAngel	mathematical correct
21:55	RealBadAngel	but in this case proper rounding is not needed, and can save us a few cpu cycles
21:55	Octupus	what is this used fr -sunlight_propagates = true,
21:55	RealBadAngel	node below will get light
21:55	NekoGloop	makes it so light passes through a node, Octupus
21:56	NekoGloop	RealBadAngel: not just below.
21:56	Octupus	ohhh thank you
21:56	RealBadAngel	it will let light pass through
21:56	Octupus	im making 3 new glass for the the spirit of christmas
21:56	NekoGloop	yeah but not just to a below node
21:56	Octupus	4
21:56	NekoGloop	Torch Glass Air Air Stone
21:56	NekoGloop	the stone will get light from the torch.
21:56	RealBadAngel	next one can be solid stone
21:57	RealBadAngel	so below
21:57	RealBadAngel	this one passes it to the next one
22:05	Octupus	what is something that is green and default ?
22:06	Octupus	not dirt_with_grass
22:06	T_A_N_K	this http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1434 is not very helpful at all
22:07	Octupus	hi sfan5
22:07	sfan5	hi
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22:08	T_A_N_K	sfan5, how do you compile on windows?
22:08	PilzAdam	KDE fail
22:08	sfan5	T_A_N_K: why are you asking?
22:08	T_A_N_K	because i am compiling latest version for windows
22:09	sfan5	read readme.txt ;)
22:09	Octupus	sfan i hear your build has 3d players?
22:10	sfan5	no
22:10	sfan5	give me a patch and i can make a build with 3d players
22:11	NekoGloop	T_A_N_K: if you are having issues i can ask sfan
22:13	sfan5	NekoGloop: isn't he able to ask himself?
22:13	NekoGloop	he's compiling the build for me.
22:13	NekoGloop	:P
22:16	T_A_N_K	damn, this is really overcomplex for windows
22:18	NekoGloop	T_A_N_K: hence why i asked you
22:19	sfan5	i'm making a new win build right now
22:20	NekoGloop	sfan5: with T_A_N_K's digging animation?
22:20	sfan5	no
22:20	NekoGloop	aw
22:20	sfan5	but if he would gives me a patch...
22:20	sfan5	--s
22:20	sfan5	*-s
22:20	PilzAdam	sfan5, https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/minetest/commit/37d6c3a2f19854caf6dfeb352cb9f6c50bb52757
22:20	NekoGloop	check github, he has a pull re-- fucking ninjas.
22:20	sfan5	a _patch_
22:22	sfan5	Fatal error: can't create CMakeFiles/sqlite3.dir/sqlite3.c.obj: No such file or directory
22:22	sfan5	someone broke it
22:22	sfan5	...
22:22	sfan5	nvm
22:22	NekoGloop	was it you? :3
22:23	sfan5	no
22:23	sfan5	it works like: if(randint(0,10) != 1) {stop_working(); }
22:25	T_A_N_K	sfan5 do you have a zip folder which i can unzip, place the source of minetest in, and then compile from there?
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22:27	Kacey	hello
22:28	Kacey	octupus how is the mod coming along
22:28	Octupus	which md :l
22:28	Kacey	kaceywater
22:28	Kacey	im still finding the bucket code
22:28	Octupus	havent touched that yet im working on my own right now
22:28	Kacey	ooh ok
22:30	sfan5	T_A_N_K: a patch would be much easier for me
22:31	PilzAdam	bye
22:31	T_A_N_K	no, i mean, zip your folder which you compile from and let me download it so i can compile things if you aren't around mate
22:33	Taoki	http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=50688#p50688
22:33	sfan5	T_A_N_K: ....wait
22:34	Octupus	can any1 tell me why when i try to chnage colour of glass to yellow it turns to purple ?
22:34	Octupus	gimp
22:44	Octupus	http://pastebin.com/eiNpgsVt
22:44	Octupus	NekoGloop,^
22:46	Octupus	sfan5,can u check out that link and tell me if i got anything wrong
22:47	sfan5	everything is right
22:47	sfan5	it must be a texture atlas/texture loading issue
22:47	Octupus	ok i saved them correctly though
22:47	Octupus	but it says i got an init/lua error
22:48	Octupus	init.lua
22:48	sfan5	which error?
22:48	Octupus	old on
22:48	Octupus	*holn
22:48	Octupus	*hold
22:49	Octupus	futher back in the mod i had the
22:49	Octupus	minetest register node thingy
22:49	Octupus	then the craft recipe
22:49	Octupus	can this change anything since i changed it?
22:50	sfan5	....
22:50	sfan5	i don't see any mistakes in the reciepes
22:50	sfan5	*recipes
22:51	NekoGloop	" LIGHT_MAX = 15," doesnt belong in the nodedef
22:51	Octupus	O
22:51	Octupus	where does it belong special_tiles= {right
22:51	NekoGloop	NO
22:51	Octupus	ok where then :l
22:52	NekoGloop	AS light_source YOU IDIOT
22:52	Octupus	U TOLD ME LIGHT_MAX
22:52	Octupus	GURRRRR
22:52	NekoGloop	I DIDNT TELL YOU WHAT TO PUT IN THE NODEDEF
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22:53	Octupus	:#
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22:53	sfan5	you could create a value in the nodedef named minetest_is_shit and the engine wouldn't care
22:54	NekoGloop	well I'm just telling him something that wont work
22:54	sfan5	a additional nonsensical LIGHT_MAX wouldn't produce an error
22:54	NekoGloop	does your mod depend on default?
22:54	Octupus	yes
22:55	Octupus	doesnt it say in the crafting recipe
22:55	Octupus	Default :
22:55	NekoGloop	does your mod depend on default?
22:55	sfan5	he said yes
22:55	Octupus	yes and with light_source = 15, i got an error
22:55	NekoGloop	yes but does minetest know this?
22:56	T_A_N_K	how does my version of sweden sound? http://soundcloud.com/jordan-craige/sweden
22:56	Octupus	NekoGloop,how will minetest know this?
22:57	NekoGloop	depends.txt?
22:57	Octupus	i did that already :l
22:57	NekoGloop	you -do- know that it serves a purpose, right?
22:57	NekoGloop	also, we'd be able to help you if you actually told us what went wrong
22:57	sfan5	^^^
22:58	Octupus	im trying but u are going apeshit on me :l
22:58	NekoGloop	TELL US WHAT THE DEBUG WINDOW SAID YOU STUPID IDJIT.
22:59	sfan5	-.-
22:59	Octupus	HAHA GOT IT
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23:03	hasufell	any server open?
23:05	T_A_N_K	we got tons of em
23:05	Octupus	hasufell,mines is open
23:05	T_A_N_K	http://minetest.net/forum/viewforum.php?id=10
23:05	sfan5	hasufell: http://servers.minetest.ru
23:06	T_A_N_K	sorry neko, but this is too complex for my tiny brain to handle
23:06	NekoGloop	D:
23:08	T_A_N_K	you'll have to become a programmer neko, switch to arch linux, grab your hobo bags and go to boot camp, come back, many years after the war, study c++ for 17 years, go back to the next war, come back, and then maybe
23:08	T_A_N_K	you'll be ready
23:09	NekoGloop	sfan5: ok, what format should the patch be in?
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23:13	T_A_N_K	i am sad, i will never be able to make a song as nice as this http://youtu.be/Bmsys_vvodU
23:13	NekoGloop	you made that...
23:13	T_A_N_K	again*
23:14	T_A_N_K	back then i had a nice server, had plenty of players on it, didn't worry about hackers, didn't have the doors mod so there was some crazy mod that emulated a door and you can see it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33sE6C6UpIw&feature=fvwrel, back then we didn't have stairs, crops were entities, good times
23:15	sfan5	NekoGloop: unified diff
23:15	NekoGloop	a what? :P
23:15	sfan5	T_A_N_K: i agree
23:15	sfan5	:/
23:16	T_A_N_K	i am thinking of starting my server again, now that the terrain generation is quite fast
23:17	sfan5	NekoGloop: ask T_A_N_K to make a patch
23:17	T_A_N_K	i can't make a patch, i can't even compile it
23:19	sfan5	.....
23:20	OdnetninI	taoki, have you got put 3d?
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23:21	Taoki	OdnetninI: Waiting for new help on the code, will see tomorrow
23:21	OdnetninI	i can try to help you, but ok., tomorrow
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23:29	OldCoder	I am preparing to back up and update the worlds
23:29	OldCoder	Does anybody have changes?
23:31	OldCoder	Worlds going down now
23:31	OldCoder	Oh!
23:31	OldCoder	Not yet
23:32	NekoGloop	OldCoder: read above. Would it be possible to make a windows client fitting that criteria?
23:32	OldCoder	I will scroll up
23:32	OldCoder	What am I looking for?
23:32	OldCoder	BTW Zeitgeist is working on 30001. When he is done the worlds are going down for backup.
23:33	OldCoder
23:33	OldCoder	NekoGloop, can you copy paste? Or tell me what to look for?
23:33	OldCoder
23:33	babyface1031	ok
23:34	NekoGloop	OldCoder: T_A_N_K's digging animation.
23:34	OldCoder	k
23:34	OldCoder	Hold on
23:35	OldCoder	NekoGloop, Sometimes I need things spelled out very literally. May I ask what you are asking for?
23:36	OldCoder	Worlds going down now
23:36	NekoGloop	I am asking for a build of the latest git minetest with T_A_N_K's digging animation patch.
23:37	OldCoder	Ah
23:37	OldCoder	yes
23:37	OldCoder	Windows version; correct?
23:38	NekoGloop	win32.
23:38	OldCoder	Yes
23:38	OldCoder	Link the patch please
23:38	OldCoder	I see a mention of a YouTube video
23:38	NekoGloop	getting the patch, give me just a minute
23:38	OldCoder	Also indicate if you mean C55 base
23:38	OldCoder	As opposed to any other fork
23:40	NekoGloop	OldCoder: https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/minetest/commit/37d6c3a2f19854caf6dfeb352cb9f6c50bb52757 patched onto minetest-c55 base.
23:40	OldCoder	I will restart worlds shortly then attempt this
23:41	NekoGloop	Do not use the minetest in that fork, it is a bit older than what i want. :P
23:42	OldCoder	NekoGloop, then which Minetest do I use?
23:42	OldCoder	Should I use my fork with the patch added?
23:42	NekoGloop	that will do.
23:42	NekoGloop	:3
23:43	OldCoder	I will try now
23:43	NekoGloop	WAIT NO
23:43	OldCoder	?
23:43	NekoGloop	do the latest c55 base. (i hear it's faster now)
23:43	OldCoder	Wait
23:43	OldCoder	My fork is just thexyz version
23:43	OldCoder	with some patches added
23:43	OldCoder	Wouldn't he have the C55 changes?
23:43	NekoGloop	he wouldnt have updated just yet.
23:43	NekoGloop	:P
23:44	NekoGloop	in the latest git i hear you actually cant outrun the map generator.
23:44	OldCoder	Hmm
23:44	OldCoder	I wonder if he'd update
23:44	OldCoder	I'd like to get both
23:44	* OldCoder	shrugs
23:44	OldCoder	I need that change in diff -ruN format
23:44	OldCoder	Can you produce a diff?
23:44	NekoGloop	< still has no idea what "diff" means
23:45	OldCoder	Can anybody produce a diff from GitHub?
23:45	NekoGloop	um...
23:45	OldCoder	NekoGloop, it is the standard patch file format
23:45	OldCoder	Hmm
23:45	OldCoder	dev channel looks inactive
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23:45	OldCoder	Octupus, updated
23:46	NekoGloop	copy the source files, and apply the code changes manually?
23:46	OldCoder	Taking more time
23:46	Octupus	Thank you
23:46	OldCoder	and risking errors
23:46	NekoGloop	< has no idea how to make or use a diff file...
23:46	OldCoder	Octupus, y w
23:46	OldCoder	NekoGloop, I have been asking around
23:46	NekoGloop	OldCoder: shouldnt error.
23:46	OldCoder	You misunderstand
23:46	OldCoder	To do this manually requires time and labor
23:46	OldCoder	I really need a diff file
23:46	OldCoder	There is supposed to be a way to make one from GitHub
23:46	OldCoder	I will try Google
23:47	NekoGloop	prolly through the git shell
23:47	OldCoder	Yes
23:47	OldCoder	I see the command
23:47	OldCoder	But he'd need to run it
23:48	OldCoder	Hmm
23:48	NekoGloop	at this point I'm feeling it would be simpler to compile myself...
23:48	OldCoder	As you wish
23:48	OldCoder	But we need this feature
23:48	OldCoder	I mean, the diff feature
23:56	Octupus	OldCoder, face says she says she can't make the new glass
23:57	NekoGloop	cloning jordan4ibanez/minetest...
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23:59	OldCoder	NekoGloop, I have tried to clone that fork
23:59	OldCoder	NekoGloop, do you know if anybody who knows git is around?
23:59	OldCoder	cornernote, hi

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