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00:09 Octupus he timed out
00:09 Octupus and he shall return soon
00:09 OldCoder All right
00:10 OldCoder If he does I do need information about the changes to the mod
00:11 Octupus ok
00:11 Taoki For everyone who's interested in the 3D models: I need help from other coders at this point to nail down the remaining 4 issues. If anyone knows and is willing to jump in, that would help a lot and I can get started on a player model soon! See this post for information about the problems: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=49316#p49316
00:14 Taoki OldCoder: When you have some time, please read that post. Maybe you can look into the code and help a bit. Been working for 4 days on this code almost constantly, and reached the limit in what I know, so I really need help from someone else
00:14 Taoki Only if you can and wish to of course
00:15 Taoki I'll ask RealBadAngel too when he gets back *also pokes thexyz
00:16 Octupus is it written in c++
00:18 OldCoder tango_, Hi
00:18 OldCoder Oops
00:18 OldCoder tango_, sorry
00:18 OldCoder Taoki, hi
00:18 Taoki Octupus: C++ and LUA both
00:18 Taoki hi
00:18 OldCoder Taoki, I am not qualified but I will review tonight
00:19 Taoki OldCoder: Thanks. That's ok... anyone who knows or can understand the code is very welcome to help
00:19 Octupus i may be able to help in lua
00:19 Octupus just remember i am a beginner
00:20 Octupus i may be able to be in more use to test it out
00:20 Taoki Octupus: That's ok. Thanks
00:20 Taoki The biggest part is the LUA API with C++ for the new hooks
00:21 Taoki The LUA scripts can be thought of later, the functions must be clarified first
00:23 Octupus ok
00:23 Octupus so help or no help?
00:25 OldCoder You can try
00:26 Octupus but idk if taoki wants my help
00:26 OldCoder He has invited anybody
00:27 OldCoder Who wishes to help
00:27 Taoki Octupus: Sure, any help is very welcome
00:27 Taoki Anyone who can help at all and get the code I couldn't understand working, even tell me how (but I've relly kinda reached my limits with this)
00:27 OldCoder Taoki, you have learned and possibly helped to move things forward
00:28 Taoki Surely learned a lot about C++ and MineTest code too. And I know the feature is very important and I'm glad I got it done
00:28 Octupus im happy to test it once its finished
00:28 Taoki The basic part is fully done and tested to work. That's setting a mesh to an object and animating it. It's other secondary (but important) features that don't
00:29 Octupus and take a crack at the lua code
00:30 Octupus does any1 know where a cocoa tree grows?
00:33 Taoki Need to go. Night, will look at the replies tomorrow. If yon know someone else good with the code who's inactive now poke them too. I'm hoping those issues can be fixed in the next days
00:33 OldCoder Taoki, have a good evening!
00:33 Taoki Same :) night
00:35 Octupus ohh to late to say good night
00:37 Octupus OldCOder,i just built a big farm :)
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00:38 OldCoder Octupus, where?
00:38 Kacey hello
00:38 OldCoder Kacey, hi
00:39 Octupus KAcey :D
00:39 Octupus hello
00:39 Kacey does everybody know ladmine
00:39 Octupus Here we go
00:39 OldCoder Is he important ATM?
00:39 Kacey a little
00:40 Octupus what did he do now
00:40 Kacey i place a few blocks that my brother thought exploded
00:40 OldCoder Kacey, where was this?
00:40 Kacey i put them at random places on the map to take screenshots
00:40 Kacey landmines server
00:41 Octupus XD oh this problem
00:41 Octupus and he doesnt want to let u back on
00:42 OldCoder Kacey, this is not
00:42 OldCoder the Landmine forum
00:42 Kacey basically but he is saying i wanted to grief with them
00:42 OldCoder If you wish to speak with him
00:42 OldCoder Register as another name and try chat
00:42 Kacey he hacked me using that
00:42 OldCoder On that server
00:42 Kacey he ip banned me
00:43 Octupus o
00:43 OldCoder Kacey, this is not a good place to speak with him
00:43 Octupus well u can play on my server
00:43 Kacey ya
00:43 OldCoder Kacey, will you play on Octupus server instead?
00:43 OldCoder For now
00:43 Kacey octupus can you talk to him
00:43 OldCoder And talk to LM in the forums or try chat again later?
00:44 OldCoder Kacey, please PM Octupus about this
00:44 OldCoder It is not really a LM forum
00:44 Octupus kacey pm me
00:44 Kacey i will try when i get my compuer running again
00:44 Kacey how
00:44 OldCoder Kacey, do this
00:44 OldCoder /msg Octupus Hi
00:45 OldCoder Kacey and Octupus I suggest keep LM discussion to a minimum
00:45 OldCoder For now
00:45 OldCoder LM can be worked out later
00:45 Octupus yes
00:45 Kacey i am also working on singleplayer houses
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00:58 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Hi
00:58 Octupus Hello RealBadAngel,coming frm work i see
01:03 Octupus oldCoder,u have to check out my farm :)
01:04 OldCoder Octupus, I will shortly. I will teleport to you if you are there. If you leave state the coords
01:05 Octupus ok
01:06 Octupus coder u cant miss it its right beside spawn
01:10 Octupus GURRRR
01:10 Octupus i need pilzadam or rubenwardy
01:14 Octupus My plants are grwoing nicely:)
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01:19 Octupus hi mrtux
01:19 mrtux hi
01:19 mrtux i hate my computer
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01:19 Octupus XD
01:22 iqualfragile celeron55: i cant reach your blog: http://c55.me/blog results in a timeout
01:23 Octupus http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/MineTest/345371275551444
01:23 Octupus EVERY1 IN IRC
01:24 Octupus ^^ is a page i made for minetest we need to get mt more popular LIKE IT :D
01:27 OldCoder cornernote, hi; are you here?
01:28 Octupus hi coder i didnt realize u joined my server :D
01:28 OldCoder Octupus, I have made a screenshot
01:28 Octupus cool
01:28 Octupus did u see my farm
01:28 Octupus its perrty
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01:44 Octupus i gtg bye
01:45 Octupus Adios
01:46 Kacey http://i.imgur.com/qNzxw.png
01:46 Kacey check out my house
01:52 OldCoder Kacey, that is very nice. What world is it in?
01:52 Kacey my singleplayer world
01:52 OldCoder Kacey, Export it as a schem
01:53 OldCoder We can import it into a public world if you wish
01:53 Kacey i have to finish it first
01:53 OldCoder All right
01:56 Kacey ok how do i save it as a scem
01:58 OldCoder First install the WorldEdit mod
01:58 Kacey already done
01:58 OldCoder Next press F5
01:58 OldCoder to display your position and "yaw"
01:58 Kacey done
01:58 OldCoder turn until yaw is about zero or 1
01:58 OldCoder Then fly to the SW corner of your place
01:59 Kacey ok done
01:59 OldCoder Try this command:
01:59 OldCoder //pos1
01:59 OldCoder What does it say?
01:59 Kacey i use //p set
01:59 OldCoder You have done this before then
01:59 OldCoder Set SW and NE corner
01:59 OldCoder Then //save kaceyhouse
01:59 Kacey i have used world edit before
01:59 OldCoder Then you already know
02:00 OldCoder Make the .we file
02:00 OldCoder Put it in a ZIP
02:00 Kacey ok
02:00 OldCoder Upload it to sendspace.com
02:00 OldCoder And you can have it in one of my worlds or anybody else's
02:00 Kacey what about github
02:00 OldCoder That is fine
02:01 Kacey whre do i find the file i saved
02:02 Kacey where do i find the file
02:02 OldCoder Kacey, Look in the worlds folder
02:03 OldCoder there should be a folder named schems. Is there?
02:03 Kacey found it
02:03 OldCoder It will not preserve meta
02:03 OldCoder There is a new WorldEdit that works better
02:03 OldCoder But I don't think it's ready yet
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02:05 Kacey zip file ready
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02:06 Kacey almost uploaded
02:08 Kacey uploading
02:08 OldCoder k
02:08 Kacey http://www.sendspace.com/file/4x0a8j
02:08 OldCoder Reviewing
02:08 Kacey for the house you have to dig a 2 block deep hole
02:09 Kacey blox mod and moreblocks and lightsplus needto be installed
02:09 OldCoder k
02:09 OldCoder Wait
02:10 OldCoder Got it
02:10 OldCoder If you wish to try it we can load it somewhere now. For Octupus world you should speak with him first. Perhaps the Metropolis world.
02:11 OldCoder Connect there and see if there is a place you like.
02:11 OldCoder I will check the port...
02:11 Kacey the hole has to be 21x14
02:11 OldCoder Sure
02:11 Kacey i cannot connect to servers on this computer
02:11 OldCoder Then we will discuss it again soon
02:12 Kacey ok
02:12 OldCoder I will add the mods to one of the worlds and experiment
02:12 OldCoder WE does not always work
02:12 Kacey i will add it to the forums
02:12 Kacey later
02:12 OldCoder blox and lightsplus; we will see
02:12 OldCoder Sure
02:13 Kacey how do you add a schem to your world
02:13 OldCoder You do this:
02:13 OldCoder Move it to a schems folder in the right place
02:13 OldCoder Go to the appropriate SW corner
02:13 OldCoder //load filename
02:13 Kacey ok
02:13 OldCoder I don't wish to do this without backing up first
02:14 OldCoder As this can go quite wrong
02:15 OldCoder meta will not come back
02:19 Kacey it works
02:20 Kacey time  for a new house/schem
02:29 OldCoder All right
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02:30 Octupus Hello
02:31 Kacey hello octupus
02:31 Kacey i finished my house
02:31 Octupus Nice
02:31 Octupus Save it using world edit
02:32 Kacey it is uploaded
02:32 Kacey http://www.sendspace.com/file/4x0a8j
02:32 Octupus I can't dload it
02:33 Kacey why not
02:33 Octupus Colluquy
02:33 Octupus iPod
02:33 Kacey ooh o
02:33 Kacey ok*
02:35 Kacey it is awesome but bare on the inside
02:35 OldCoder Later you can fix it
02:36 Kacey i left it bare on purpose
02:36 Octupus :)
02:36 Octupus For different ppl
02:36 Octupus To fix inside
02:36 Kacey lightsplus and 3dforniture are optional now with it being bare
02:36 Kacey yes octupus
02:37 Octupus :)
02:39 Kacey i think it is awesome
02:40 Octupus I'm fighting my dog XD
02:41 Kacey lol
02:41 Octupus I can't even type because of her XD
02:43 Kacey lol
02:46 Kacey im bored
02:47 Octupus Me 2
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02:55 Kacey sorry about that i had to restart my computer
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03:01 Octupus O
03:01 Octupus cornernote: U around
03:04 Kacey hey conernote
03:04 Kacey cornernote
03:04 Octupus I not think he Is around
03:05 Octupus He might be coding something
03:05 Kacey crap i need to ask him something
03:05 Octupus Me 2 XD
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03:06 Kacey what do u have to ask him
03:08 Octupus About a certain mod
03:08 Kacey ooh i hve to ask him about a world
03:09 Octupus :D
03:11 Kacey cornernote u there
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03:34 sreich you guys have crafting, right?
03:34 sreich where is the code for that? (curious)
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03:54 babyface1031 Hi oct
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05:50 celeron55 http://www.valvesoftware.com/linuxsurvey.php
05:50 celeron55 closed sourse into your face!
05:51 celeron55 ...i mean, that should be interesting in case somebody happens to have a steam account
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07:54 tango_ I do
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08:41 Taoki Hello. I would like to remind everyone interested in the 3D model support that there are 3 remaining issues, plus a feature I could not implement yet. I require help from everyone experienced with the MineTest code and its lua API! If you wish to help, please see this post for what I need help with: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=49316#p49316
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09:53 Taoki If no one can look at the code now, this is my main problem with the attachment system: I need to send over (read / write, or serialize) the reference to an object. On the server, it is a server object. On the client, it is a client object, and I need to get its server object variant if I'm correct. Talking about content_cao and content_sao
09:54 TheRedMood Taoki is hard at work as always ;)
09:55 Taoki The code can easily find out what the server object I'm addressing is, and parse it as a reference (ServerActiveObject *parent). Problem is what do I do in genericobject.cpp when I need to send that reference to the client (contant_cao.cpp) then figure out what client object represents the player we were addressing on the server, and get its object
09:56 Taoki Can anyone good with the code suggest what to do please?
10:01 Taoki Basically, I need to "get cao for sao" either in the server or in the client. Anyone know of a function that can do that?
10:04 OldCoder Taoki, hi
10:04 Taoki Hello :)
10:04 OldCoder Taoki, you should slow down. Relax. Most people will not review for some time after you reach a milestone.
10:05 OldCoder This should be a single thread in the things you are doing with your life. It will be fun that way and not burdensome.
10:05 Taoki Yeah. Really wanna finish this code soon though. Am very close
10:05 TheRedMood OldCoder: Hey. I need a way to force Taoki to take a step bak and enjoy :)
10:05 OldCoder Taoki, I will review
10:05 OldCoder TheRedMood, do not force him. Let him decide.
10:05 Taoki hehe ^^
10:05 TheRedMood But she is getting stressed :(
10:05 OldCoder It is best that way
10:05 OldCoder Hmm
10:06 OldCoder let me review the code in a bit
10:06 TheRedMood See
10:06 OldCoder Then I can comment better
10:06 TheRedMood Now he is going to be stresed to!
10:06 Taoki Well I have to admit I've strained myself a lot to work on the code in hte last days. I tend to do that... have no rest till something I do is finished
10:06 OldCoder Taoki, do not set arbitrary deadlines
10:07 OldCoder Taoki, It is 3:00am my time. I will be awake for a while. Need to be AFK for 15 minutes or less. Then will review.
10:07 * OldCoder back in a few minutes
10:07 TheRedMood GO GET SOME SLEEP
10:07 OldCoder TheRedMood, I did
10:07 TheRedMood BEFORE YOU PEOPLE FALL OVER AND DIE
10:07 TheRedMood :(
10:07 OldCoder TheRedMood, I did sleep and may nap again in some hours
10:07 TheRedMood ; ~ ; Why does everyone have to hurt themself
10:07 OldCoder TheRedMood, others are hurting me but not here
10:08 OldCoder Here all is well
10:08 OldCoder I am happy to be here for now
10:08 ruskie hehe
10:08 OldCoder I am AFK for a few minutes
10:08 OldCoder ruskie, Hey. Perhaps you can review Taoki code
10:08 ruskie not a coder sadly
10:08 OldCoder ruskie, all right
10:08 ruskie only a sysadmin
10:08 OldCoder bbiab
10:08 OldCoder sysadmin is no sin
10:08 ruskie of course not
10:09 Taoki Pushed a small addition to my code on GIT now
10:09 Taoki OldCoder: Ok
10:11 Taoki https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest/commit/35350fce4f77509e21dee4fd6ca134a7da15d737 Might be useful to look at
10:19 OldCoder Taoki, back
10:19 Taoki wb
10:20 OldCoder Reviewing
10:23 OldCoder Taoki, I know C++ well enough to be able to debug and patch programs. I'm also learning the structure of MT. But I won't be able to code at the level you're at until my real life is straightened out. I can help in the areas that don't require knowledge of the structure.
10:23 OldCoder I am reviewing further
10:24 Taoki OldCoder: I understand. It requires some knowledge of the structure sadly. But if you can't that's ok, don't want others to force themselves for this code as well :P But any help is important otherwise
10:24 OldCoder Taoki, you are headed towards core developer status. My advice is to accept intermittent progress as you must now interact with others at your level. You are becoming part of that group.
10:25 Taoki That's good :)
10:25 OldCoder Yes
10:25 OldCoder It means tradeoffs
10:26 OldCoder Group consensus. And limitations. Some of the people you need to discuss things with may not be by for a while. BUT: A bit more education and you will be more independent again.
10:26 Taoki I still feel as "someone who was mysteriously lucky enough to make something important and is now running around with an unfinished code looking for help: :P
10:26 Taoki yeah
10:26 OldCoder Luck is only one factor
10:26 OldCoder Energy and creativity are important
10:26 OldCoder You appear to have both. Therefore do not be discouraged.
10:26 Taoki yeah
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10:27 OldCoder PilzAdam, hi
10:27 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:28 OldCoder I need to rest again for a bit.
10:28 Taoki OldCoder: As for the code: This part might not relate as much to MineTest's structure and be a bit more close to general C++: In genericobject.cpp, you can look at how everything is being sent. Basically, I need the reference of an object to be sent there. It's from server to clients
10:28 Taoki ok, when you get back and have time and wish to then :)
10:29 Taoki If anyone else can explain this as well feel free to
10:30 OldCoder Taoki, All right
10:30 OldCoder PilzAdam, do you do much C++ ?
10:30 OldCoder Need to rest
10:31 PilzAdam OldCoder, i dont konw c++
10:31 PilzAdam i can only read it a bit
10:31 OldCoder PilzAdam, O.K. and good morning
10:32 PilzAdam good morning, Sir
10:32 OldCoder It is 3:30am here and I think I will rest a bit further
10:38 Taoki I found a line somewhere that might be very relevant to this: ClientActiveObject *cao = m_env.getActiveObject(object_id);
10:40 Taoki Wonder if that can be used to recognize a server active object as a client active object (their variant I mean, not sure if it even works this way)
10:43 Taoki There is an object->getId() function too which might actually work
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11:27 PilzAdam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-SuVra3SMo <- and the winner is...
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11:41 Taoki And, I think I got it :D If everything is correct I'm succeeding at sending object ID from server to client, and I can likely idenfity by that
11:42 iqualfragile and the winner is mister pixels
12:38 Taoki Now I'm wondering how I can get an object by ID (->getId) in content_cao.cpp. Anyone know how I can do a for() loop through ClientActiveObject's?
12:40 Taoki NVM just found an example
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12:48 Octupus Hello
12:48 PilzAdam hi
12:49 Octupus Hello Adam I was meaning to ask you where cocoa saplings grew but I found out :)
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12:57 Octupus Hey
12:59 Taoki I hope using m_env->getActiveObject(id) in content_cao.cpp returns the client object of that ID, not the server one. Though it only matters if client objects don't share the same properties as their server counterparts
12:59 Octupus Hello
13:01 Taoki hi
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13:22 Octupus Hello Rba
13:28 Octupus I get a new person on ma server :D
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13:29 RealBadAngel hi
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13:29 Calinou hi
13:29 PilzAdam sup RBA
13:30 artur99 hi
13:30 RealBadAngel weekend at least, back from work
13:30 ruskie hehe
13:31 * ruskie just had an hour or so of work to finish now to go play some more
13:31 RealBadAngel and im goin to release Haven TP x32 version, just some final touches
13:32 ruskie yay
13:35 Octupus hello rba again :)
13:37 Octupus RealBadAngel,Zeg9 loves technic :)
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13:40 Kacey hello
13:41 Taoki hi
13:41 Kacey how are you
13:41 Taoki ok
13:42 Kacey i made a schematic
13:42 Taoki I'm running into an interesting issue with my model attachments. If I do the attaching on the client, I can attach to skeletal bones (as that's where the model is set), but the server isn't aware the object changed its position. If I do it on the server, it's more consistent and the server is aware of the real location, but I can't get per-bone positions so I can't do skeletal attaching
13:43 Kacey skeletal bones?
13:43 Taoki The server not being aware has small inconveniences, such as players not actually being moved or punching an item at its attached location not working. Attaching in client slightly feels like a hack... but if I don't it's hard to set position to a bone at a specific animation frame on the mesh
13:44 Taoki Yes, I'm implementing meshes
13:44 Kacey ooh ok
13:45 Kacey i would enjoy seeing that
13:45 Taoki It's getting close to being ready
13:45 thexyz Taoki: why do you crosspost it here? it seems all dev(-like) people are in -delta
13:46 Taoki helps to get more answers and opinions
13:48 RealBadAngel im not on #dev
13:49 RealBadAngel hi Taoki
13:49 Kacey realbadangel i made a schematic
13:49 RealBadAngel of?
13:50 Kacey my house
13:51 Kacey it is aweesome
13:54 Kacey http://i.imgur.com/qNzxw.png
13:55 Kacey check it out
13:56 Taoki Ok, I think I know how to fix the issue most gently. setAttachment will attach the entity server-size to another entity. If however a bone is also set, we also modify the visual location client-side (server-side the object stays attached to the origin of its parent, and not offset by the bone).
13:57 Kacey cool
14:02 Kacey snedspace does not like me
14:02 thexyz RealBadAngel: so, you're not on dev and you think you know c++
14:03 RealBadAngel what one has to do with another?
14:03 RealBadAngel i have to be in that channel in order to have coding skills? :)
14:03 artur99 i just downloaded the game... What i must do next?
14:04 RealBadAngel play :)
14:04 artur99 how?
14:04 RealBadAngel run minetest executable just
14:04 RealBadAngel and start singleplayer world or join a server
14:05 artur99 i press the multypalyer button
14:05 RealBadAngel thexyz, in fact i got more than anough of work with technic, im not diving into source by now
14:05 artur99 how can i creeate an account?
14:05 RealBadAngel *enough
14:05 RealBadAngel you dont have to
14:05 RealBadAngel its not minecraft
14:06 RealBadAngel type there ur nick, password you will be using and join the server
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14:06 artur99 what server?
14:07 artur99 what i must wrine on adress and port?
14:07 RealBadAngel where are you from?
14:07 artur99 romania
14:07 FireStrykeR psst, can anyone help me with registering for the forum?
14:07 RealBadAngel then use europe.minetest.org
14:07 RealBadAngel port 30000
14:07 artur99 aha
14:07 artur99 thanks
14:08 artur99 but what server are u using?
14:08 PilzAdam FireStrykeR, what help do you need?
14:08 RealBadAngel artur99, when you will join the server for the 1st time be patient
14:08 FireStrykeR I get asked what the current build is,but 4.3 doesnt let me register
14:08 RealBadAngel lots of content will be transferred to your client
14:08 PilzAdam FireStrykeR, 0.4
14:08 RealBadAngel can take a few minutes
14:08 FireStrykeR ohhh thanks
14:09 RealBadAngel 0.4.3 is the current one
14:09 FireStrykeR that should be clarified :D
14:09 PilzAdam the correct answer is 0.4 not 0.4.3
14:09 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, 0.4.3 works as well :)
14:10 FireStrykeR nope
14:10 FireStrykeR it doesnt
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14:10 RealBadAngel typed that a few times
14:10 RealBadAngel and worked
14:10 PilzAdam it has to be the format N.N
14:10 artur99 can i play lan games?
14:10 PilzAdam artur99, sure
14:11 Taoki http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=49398#p49398
14:13 FireStrykeR btw Pilz, when I use your simple mobs plugin, I can never have more than 4 people on my server at a time, or it crashes. is this a network problem or a client problem?
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14:14 * Taoki is going to take a break at last until later today, gonna be on the minetest.org server to look more at things
14:14 PilzAdam FireStrykeR, 1st i am PilzAdam or Adam; not Pilz! 2nd: simple mobs is mod and not a plugin
14:15 FireStrykeR :D sorry
14:15 PilzAdam and yes ive heard that on servers my occur some problems, but ive never tested it myself
14:15 PilzAdam *may
14:15 Jordach FireStrykeR, so you've come from MC / Bukkit?
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14:16 FireStrykeR kind of, but it was really a mistype.
14:16 FireStrykeR plugins are a general term
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14:22 babyface1031 old coder you on
14:23 babyface1031 nvm figured it out
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14:27 Kacey i made a batcae
14:27 Kacey batcave*
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14:27 artur99 what server are u joining?
14:28 TheRedMood FINALLY
14:28 TheRedMood Taoki: This is the moment. I am installing bedrock on my real pc now.
14:28 TheRedMood Currently in the ubuntu live enviroment
14:28 Taoki nice. Good lucj :)
14:28 Taoki *luck
14:28 TheRedMood Going to start the procedure now :)
14:28 TheRedMood Bedrock
14:28 TheRedMood I will defeat you :9
14:28 TheRedMood :)
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14:30 TheRedMood Thanks, mrs.
14:30 TheRedMood How is your code problem going?
14:32 artur99 i tried to cennect on europe.minecraft.org. The game started loading. When the game reach media, the loading was bloked on 1%
14:33 PilzAdam ar
14:33 PilzAdam ooops
14:33 PilzAdam artur99, is your internet connection good?
14:33 thexyz artur99: same for me
14:33 thexyz better download cache from OldCoder's website
14:33 artur99 15kbper sec
14:34 artur99 15 kb/sec
14:34 artur99 where can i find his website?
14:34 Kacey adam what iss in yoour minetest_game
14:34 thexyz artur99: http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
14:35 thexyz http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/mineinfo.html
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14:36 thexyz well, my download speed is much faster than artur99's, anyway, it doesn't want to load at all
14:37 artur99 adn what i must download?
14:37 TheRedMood Hello all :)
14:37 thexyz > minetest-121020.zip — 30MB version with preloaded cache
14:38 artur99 aha
14:38 artur99 thanks
14:38 artur99 this is for europe too?
14:39 thexyz i'm not sure, but it should work
14:39 Taoki Oh yes, all mined blocks finelly drop to the ground on OldCoder's server :D
14:39 Taoki *finally
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14:41 artur99 and i have an other question: how to broke the stone walls?
14:41 ruskie pick
14:41 ruskie try wood first
14:41 ruskie then you can upgrade that to stone
14:42 artur99 aha
14:42 artur99 ok
14:42 artur99 thanks
14:43 babyface1031 does anyone know where the craft recipe are for the bathroom and bedroom stuff is?
14:44 ruskie babyface1031, home decor forum post
14:44 ruskie babyface1031, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2041
14:45 OldCoder Hi
14:46 babyface1031 that is the kitchen and living room stuff
14:46 OldCoder thexyz, I know how to fix cache for Linux versions too
14:46 babyface1031 hi
14:46 ruskie babyface1031, has bedroom stuff as well
14:47 Calinou <TheRedMood> Currently in the ubuntu live enviroment
14:47 * Calinou analyzes thexyz
14:47 Calinou TheRedMood*
14:47 Calinou thank you tab-complete
14:48 ruskie babyface1031, but there's also a papyrus bed which is nice as well... just searh the forum for it
14:48 babyface1031 yeah i was looking at the 3d furniture mod but it doesnt tell you how to make the stuff
14:49 TheRedMood What is it?
14:49 TheRedMood What is wrong with using ubuntu as a live install?
14:49 TheRedMood I am going to isntall another distro called bedrock
14:49 TheRedMood So I needed something stable debian based.
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14:59 TheRedMood Hello jin_xi :D
15:00 RealBadAngel screenshot of ores in Haven 32x version: http://realbadangel.pl/haven32x.png
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15:10 TheRedMood Looking good :)
15:12 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/haven_32x.zip
15:12 RealBadAngel if some1 wanna try it
15:13 TheRedMood Sorry
15:13 TheRedMood I am installing a new linux distro
15:13 TheRedMood For real this time
15:13 TheRedMood So I can't try it at the momenyt
15:13 Jordach RealBadAngel - realism sucks
15:14 RealBadAngel texture packs are made because ppl have different tastes :)
15:14 TheRedMood X3
15:14 TheRedMood YES!
15:14 RealBadAngel some like it pixelizated, some more realistic, others like it cartoony
15:14 TheRedMood I am getting a new pc
15:14 TheRedMood :)
15:15 TheRedMood someone in town is going to throw their old one
15:15 TheRedMood So I am getting it.
15:16 * Jordach teleports in place of TheRedMood
15:16 Jordach nope.
15:17 TheRedMood :(
15:17 Jordach jokin!
15:17 Jordach +!
15:17 * TheRedMood grabs Jordach by the neck
15:17 TheRedMood Why do you have to be so mean ; ~ ;
15:17 * TheRedMood lifts Jordach of the ground
15:18 TheRedMood Which direction do you want me to throw you in meanie ;~;
15:18 Jordach good try, im rather fat and heavy
15:19 Jordach (i weigh about half of vanessa)
15:19 TheRedMood Well so?
15:19 TheRedMood She is not that heavy
15:19 TheRedMood :)
15:19 TheRedMood And btw
15:19 TheRedMood I am going to break your face now that you insoulted, mrs.
15:19 Jordach TheRedMood, she told me this
15:20 * TheRedMood impales Jordach face into the brick wall
15:20 TheRedMood Bad person :(
15:21 * Jordach regenerates
15:22 TheRedMood :D
15:22 TheRedMood Wow
15:22 TheRedMood I just got the feel that this song have: www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2tYJoocSgg
15:23 * TheRedMood repeats the process of smashing Jordach face
15:24 TheRedMood Say sorry ;~;
15:24 Jordach i can do this all day - mortals easily die
15:24 * Jordach regenerates
15:25 * TheRedMood throws a heavy punch into the right side of Jordach stomach region.
15:25 * TheRedMood follows up with grabbing the back of jordach head with both hands
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15:26 * TheRedMood reactracting the arms he effenctli rockets his knee into Jordach face.
15:26 TheRedMood Say sorry!
15:26 TheRedMood :(
15:26 * Jordach regenerates
15:27 TheRedMood :D
15:27 TheRedMood I can do this as long as I want?
15:27 * Jordach wields the Ban Hammer of Hell
15:27 TheRedMood NICE :D
15:27 Taoki The above chat reminds me: Someone should make an RP mod sometime, with NPC villagers scripted in LUA and all
15:27 * TheRedMood slides back from jordach
15:27 Taoki Can give you missions and nice stuff
15:27 * TheRedMood raises both his fists up to cheek level
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15:28 * TheRedMood looking at jordach, he is continuly shifting the weight from one foot to the other.
15:29 * Jordach summons Rick Astley which forever plays "Never Gonna Give You Up" in TheRedMood's head
15:29 TheRedMood ohh
15:29 TheRedMood Now he got a twin
15:29 TheRedMood That is nice :D
15:30 * TheRedMood summons an old, polished birch longbow.
15:31 * TheRedMood chews of a thin layer of skin on his left thumb, spilling blood.
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15:32 * TheRedMood while letting the blood drip to the earth, he summons a quiver full of dark brown arrows. Their tips are stained with blood and their feathers is flaming.
15:32 TheRedMood Now then
15:32 TheRedMood ban hammer against bow
15:32 TheRedMood Fight?
15:32 TheRedMood :D
15:39 * Jordach opens a void into the Minecraft dimension
15:39 FreeFull Noooooo
15:39 * Jordach then drops TheRedMood into said portal.
15:39 * TheRedMood draws a circle in the ground
15:39 * FreeFull gets slain by a ghast
15:39 * TheRedMood the circle keeps him still.
15:39 TheRedMood Not so easy ;)
15:39 * TheRedMood grabs and arrow and stretches it against the string of the bow.
15:40 FreeFull Nuh uh
15:40 FreeFull The arrow will be kept still by the circle too
15:40 * TheRedMood pulling back with might power the bow bends.
15:40 TheRedMood That is the plan FreeFull :)
15:41 * TheRedMood releases the string shooting the arrow into the shield.
15:41 * TheRedMood repeats the process until there are about 25 arrows in all kepts still by the field.
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15:42 * TheRedMood arming the bow one more time, he stamps his foot to the ground realeasing the field of magic.
15:42 * FreeFull watches the arrows fall to the ground
15:42 FreeFull Dude, inertia
15:42 * TheRedMood shots the last arrow at FreeFull
15:42 * FreeFull is already dead from ghast
15:42 * Jordach lights 300 * 800 TNT
15:43 * FreeFull watches #minetest crash
15:43 * TheRedMood raises a wall of obsidian.
15:43 TheRedMood It used 51 minutes to compile :D
15:43 TheRedMood Sorry
15:43 TheRedMood Ending now
15:44 TheRedMood Need to complete the installation
15:44 * Jordach Wins......... SYSTEM FATALITY!
15:46 artur99 i joined the server minetest.org
15:46 artur99 with the port 30000
15:46 artur99 but i dont find any player
15:47 artur99 and after i broke something that apears again
15:48 NakedFury yep
15:48 NakedFury that is a bug
15:48 NakedFury keeps happening
15:48 Taoki artur99: I think most people are on europe.minetest.org, try that one
15:48 Taoki BBL
15:49 artur99 ok
15:49 artur99 why i cant use wasd?
15:49 PilzAdam lag?
15:49 artur99 as up, right down, left
15:49 artur99 ?
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15:51 Octupus Hello
15:51 artur99 hi
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15:56 Taoki artur99: Set the keys in the menu, there's a key settings section for that
15:56 Taoki And BBL for real this time, later
15:58 artur99 aaa
15:58 artur99 thanks
15:59 Octupus http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2207
16:00 Octupus babyface1031a,^
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16:04 artur99 i cant connect on europe server
16:05 RealBadAngel its workin well
16:05 RealBadAngel please retry
16:06 RealBadAngel what can you see when try to join?
16:06 artur99 i dont remember
16:06 artur99 ill try again
16:08 artur99 apears: "some exceptions:"
16:08 RealBadAngel close client
16:08 Octupus exit your client and start it again
16:08 RealBadAngel and retry
16:08 artur99 ok
16:08 artur99 ill try
16:08 Octupus :D
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16:11 artur99 yes, it works. thanks
16:11 artur99 but what i must do in this game?
16:11 Octupus build
16:12 artur99 how? i cant broke enything...
16:12 artur99 and i have not eny resource
16:13 NakedFury first time in game?
16:13 Octupus RealBadAngel,^ i think he needs interact
16:13 RealBadAngel already given
16:13 artur99 what is a interact?
16:14 Octupus o
16:14 NakedFury permission to play and do stuff
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16:22 TheRedMood I will never be able to install this
16:22 TheRedMood Sniff sniif :(
16:22 Calinou /privs to see your privileges
16:22 Calinou /help privs
16:22 TheRedMood WHY IS THE WORLD SO CRUEL?
16:22 Calinou list of privileges
16:22 Calinou (F10 for chat log)
16:22 Octupus XD redmmod
16:24 TheRedMood it isent fun!
16:24 TheRedMood I have been at it for 4 days
16:24 TheRedMood And now I suddently get a new permission error
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16:27 Octupus does any1 have the vines mod on there server
16:33 * Jordach uses the Ban Hammer of Hell to stop TheRedMood from installing Bedrock
16:33 PilzAdam so hes banned from hell?
16:34 Jordach hes banned from LIFE
16:35 Octupus XD
16:35 Jordach purgatory anyone?
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16:36 Jordach brb
16:36 Jordach im going to use the other router so i can have music
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16:38 Jordach_ back
16:38 PilzAdam wb
16:38 Jordach_ sfan5 kick jordach
16:38 Jordach_ (i want my registered nick)
16:49 OldCoder I am done with some business and will be here in a little while; probably half an hour
16:49 sfan5 Jordach: if he's still on the server, you can't get the nick
16:49 sfan5 use /ns ghost Jordach_ <your password>
16:50 Octupus i wonder where cornernote is
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16:55 NakedFury in a corner writing notes
16:55 PilzAdam lol
16:56 Octupus XD
17:08 Jordach on the Formspec of Minetest
17:09 Jordach and on the Programming language LUA
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17:16 Kacey hello
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17:18 Octupus Hi Kacey
17:18 Octupus u got the pc working yet
17:18 Kacey hello
17:18 Kacey idk but i aam not at that house
17:19 Octupus o
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17:47 Octupus i wonder is conernote is still writing notes in the corner
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17:59 Octupus PilzAdam,whats a command to spawn a mob on your simple mob mod
18:00 PilzAdam /spawnentity mobs:dirt_monster
18:00 Octupus gracia
18:00 Octupus *gracias
18:09 Octupus Done any1 how to make coffe in hydroculture
18:22 Jordach bbl - taking girlfriend home
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18:27 Octupus Server De Octupus is Open every1
18:27 Octupus if u want to join just ask
18:27 TheRedMood ohh
18:28 TheRedMood Sounds tempting :D
18:28 Octupus :)
18:32 TheRedMood give me a secound
18:32 TheRedMood I am just installign sabayon :D
18:32 TheRedMood lets hope it works
18:35 Octupus ok :)
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18:38 TheRedMood okey
18:38 TheRedMood Coming now in a few secs :D
18:39 TheRedMood It worked
18:39 Octupus kay :)
18:41 TheRedMood How many people are on it?
18:41 Octupus 2
18:41 Octupus the others left quite a bit ago
18:42 TheRedMood wow
18:42 TheRedMood Seems like it froce
18:42 TheRedMood Give me a a couple of secounds
18:42 TheRedMood ....
18:43 TheRedMood First time update is always the worst X3
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18:43 TheRedMood I am just going to let it stay here while I do somethign else
18:43 TheRedMood coming back when It is done :D
18:43 Octupus ok :)
18:44 TheRedMood O nice
18:44 TheRedMood My comptuer decided to crash everything electronic in my room x3
18:44 TheRedMood They are all retaliating
18:46 TheRedMood What is the IP
18:46 TheRedMood Octupus: What is the ip
18:48 Octupus minetest.org
18:48 Octupus 30004
18:52 OldCoder Back
18:52 OldCoder Hi
18:53 Octupus Hello
18:54 TheRedMood I am joining in a minute octupus :D
18:54 Octupus kay:)
18:54 Octupus OldCoder,u shud see my farm now :)
18:55 OldCoder Octupus, I will
18:55 Octupus its Hardcore :D
18:56 TheRedMood OKey
18:57 Taoki Damn. I just realized that the way I'm applying meshes doesn't work for nodes too, just players and objects. And the code which generated nodes is apparently completely isolated from everything... no scene manager or even a device o.o
18:58 TheRedMood wait a secound...
18:58 OldCoder Taoki, one step at a time
18:58 TheRedMood There was a time where I got gentoo installed
18:58 TheRedMood I think I never tossed that disk :O
18:58 TheRedMood i mean reset it
18:58 Taoki I don't know how to code it for nodes too :( And apparently it's been a day and no one is helping
18:59 RealBadAngel Taoki you can make object lookin like a node
19:00 RealBadAngel Taoki, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6FuoxCaAvs&amp;feature=plcp
19:01 Taoki RealBadAngel: Can you make nodes placed on the ground and which can be dug out to look like nodes? So I can assign them the properties of any LUAobject?
19:02 RealBadAngel i think it should be possible
19:02 Taoki Does anyone know for sure?
19:02 RealBadAngel set velocity and acceleration to 0
19:02 RealBadAngel size to exact size of the node
19:02 RealBadAngel and use on_punch
19:03 RealBadAngel what for do you need it anyway?
19:03 TheRedMood Anyone know wehere I can find a client for gentoo?
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19:03 jordach_out OldCoder: present?
19:04 Taoki RealBadAngel: Support for stuff like placing furniture made with 3D models and what not
19:04 Taoki Or mesh torches
19:04 Octupus TheRedMood,u coming bro
19:04 Taoki I think someone else will need to add support for this x.x
19:05 TheRedMood Yah
19:05 OldCoder Jordach_, Hi
19:05 TheRedMood But I am having seriouse distro problems
19:05 OldCoder TheRedMood, explain
19:05 RealBadAngel Taoki, for nodes we already do have nodeboxes
19:05 TheRedMood Well i gave up on bedrock
19:05 jordach_out hey guys
19:05 Taoki nodeboxed != meshes
19:05 TheRedMood And now I am giving sabayon a try
19:05 TheRedMood But my hardware doesn't love sabayon it appers
19:06 OldCoder TheRedMood, I'd just use Debian
19:06 Octupus ohhh ok :D
19:06 TheRedMood Ohh
19:06 RealBadAngel Taoki, i think for the game animated and properly textured nodeboxed are more than enough
19:06 TheRedMood Well I need it for some power
19:06 Octupus another player just joined
19:06 jordach_out linux distros suck#
19:07 ruskie lol
19:07 jordach_out Octupus: that is me setting it up for my girlfriend
19:07 Octupus ?
19:08 jordach_out cache done!
19:08 Octupus HELLO
19:08 Octupus :D
19:09 RealBadAngel jordach, i need you on the server
19:09 RealBadAngel you put some cobble under my base
19:10 jordach_out RealBadAngel: later, im at my gf's atm
19:10 ruskie lol
19:10 RealBadAngel sure
19:11 jordach_out i could sign in here, but that would take more time
19:12 jordach_out you must be fucking kidding me
19:12 jordach_out cache reset itself
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19:15 jordach_out gotta be somewhere, RealBadAngell, i think you can guess ;)
19:15 TheRedMood NOW!
19:15 jordach_out -l
19:15 TheRedMood I AM GOIGN TO JOIN Octupus :D
19:15 Octupus OK :D
19:16 TheRedMood Downloading cache now
19:17 TheRedMood This is goign to take a long time :(
19:18 Octupus no
19:18 Octupus music is gone from this server
19:18 TheRedMood Well it is already takign a long gtime
19:19 Octupus XD
19:21 OldCoder Octupus, I can fix music for both Windows and Linux clients
19:21 OldCoder Later on
19:21 OldCoder Figured out how to do it
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19:23 Octupus cool
19:23 Octupus :)
19:24 TheRedMood Coming sooooon
19:24 TheRedMood just need to download the cache
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19:25 Octupus the server is kinda laggy a shit load of ppl are on
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19:31 Octupus Damn it
19:32 Octupus nvm i got it working
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19:46 Mallot1 hi
19:47 Octupus Hello
19:49 jordach-3ds joined #minetest
19:49 ruskie did something happen to europe.minetest.org ?
19:49 jordach-3ds christ, the 3ds can do irc webchat
19:49 Mallot1 does anyone here know SDL
19:50 ruskie jordach-3ds, hehe
19:50 Octupus XD jordach
19:50 jordach-3ds ikr
19:50 ruskie jordach-3ds, I'll wait for it to have a SSH app hehe
19:51 ruskie until then I'll enjoy it for gaming
19:51 Mallot1 does anyone here know SDL
19:51 Mallot1 does anyone here know SDL
19:51 ruskie Mallot1, repeating will just get you banned
19:51 Mallot1 SRRY
19:51 ruskie wait until someone actually replies
19:51 jordach-3ds ruskie, ill code one
19:51 * Mallot1 sad/annoyed
19:51 ruskie jordach-3ds, and get it into their shop?
19:52 jordach-3ds its will be free
19:53 ruskie yeah but will it be available via their shop... not needing a flashcart
19:54 jordach-3ds theredmoon, i am on a 3ds
19:55 RealBadAngel ruskie, hold on, EU is being updated
19:55 ruskie ahh ok
19:55 Octupus You ask    No you ask    pls just ask     whay cant u do it      fine excuse me  cane we have some ketchup?
19:55 Octupus XD
19:56 jordach-3ds ruskie, webchat works for now
19:57 ruskie jordach-3ds, well as I have a single irssi instance in tmux connected to a remote znc I prefer to ssh into that hehe
19:58 jordach-3ds nice
19:58 jordach-3ds bye
19:58 Mallot1 hello
19:58 ruskie but then the n900 helps ;)
19:59 Mallot1 aanyone here
19:59 ruskie Mallot1, people on IRC often idle
19:59 ruskie Mallot1, don't expect instant responses
19:59 Mallot1 ok
19:59 Mallot1 i didnt
19:59 ruskie sometimes it can take over a day to get a response
19:59 Mallot1 thats whuy i waited about 10 minites
20:00 ruskie in the meantime have you considered web searching your issue?
20:00 Mallot1 ok dude thats a little rediculous
20:00 Mallot1 yes
20:00 Mallot1 thas why i came here
20:00 ruskie not really more or less standard operating procedure on most irc chans
20:00 Octupus http://www.google.com/imgres?q=everything+funnier+when+you%27re+not+aloud+to+laugh&amp;hl=en&amp;biw=1366&amp;bih=650&amp;tbm=isch&amp;tbnid=Uzn02KCIEL8W1M:&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.facebook.com/SaMie.d0ntlaugh.O.o/timeline&amp;docid=aeegdgq2AZrDvM&amp;imgurl=http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/c45.0.403.403/p403x403/550766_355803621174130_496207051_n.jpg&amp;w=403&amp;h=347&amp;ei=JT2MUMz3Jovi8gSPuIHIDA&amp;zoom=1&amp;iact=hc&amp;vpx=510&amp;vpy=302&amp;dur=1063&amp;hovh=208&amp;hovw=242&amp;tx=
20:00 Octupus ooppps
20:00 Octupus :l
20:00 RealBadAngel lol
20:00 Octupus XD
20:01 Octupus every1 look at the link i posted
20:01 RealBadAngel thats a LINK
20:01 ruskie yeah it's a link hehe
20:01 Octupus XD
20:01 ruskie not opening it
20:01 RealBadAngel http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/c45.0.403.403/p403x403/550766_355803621174130_496207051_n.jpg
20:01 RealBadAngel use this one instead ;)
20:01 ruskie simply because I rarely open image links
20:02 ruskie hehe
20:02 Octupus ruskie,y its funny
20:02 ruskie so is goatse
20:02 Taoki Why on earth is this lua line crashing? local newobject=minetest.env:add_entity({0,0,0}, "test:test2")
20:02 Mallot1 cani bann some people
20:02 ruskie but you wouldn't want to see it
20:02 Octupus thanks rba
20:03 Octupus when im at the supermarket and i see my friend           "Hey what are you doing here" and im like "ohh you know hunting elephants!"
20:03 Octupus XD
20:06 NakedFury sometimes those what you doing questions are very out of place
20:06 NakedFury if you are at the movies then you are watching a movie
20:06 Octupus im not watching a movie
20:06 NakedFury I know but that has happened to me
20:07 Octupus o
20:07 NakedFury what else can I respond? ohh I came to us the restrooms
20:07 Octupus XD lol
20:10 OldCoder U.S. worlds going down very briefly
20:10 Octupus ok
20:10 Octupus coder i had a mod in ming
20:10 Octupus *mind
20:10 OldCoder vines?
20:10 Octupus no
20:10 OldCoder Which mod?
20:10 OldCoder Go on
20:10 Octupus money
20:10 OldCoder blox?
20:11 OldCoder O.K.
20:11 OldCoder Hold on
20:11 OldCoder It can go in now
20:11 Octupus ppl sell each others stuff
20:11 OldCoder Yes
20:11 Octupus like i had some steel
20:11 Octupus then some1 cud buy it from me
20:11 OldCoder Wait; I have this almost ready to go
20:11 Octupus :)
20:11 OldCoder May not be what you wish but I will explain
20:11 Octupus ok :D
20:11 TheRedMood well
20:11 OldCoder Yes
20:11 OldCoder the money mod
20:11 TheRedMood Done downloading sabayon
20:11 TheRedMood Doign a lot of thigns to setiing it up :D
20:11 Octupus again :)
20:11 OldCoder Would people like money in general?
20:12 Mallot1 lool
20:12 OldCoder Ha
20:12 OldCoder I meant
20:12 OldCoder in the game
20:12 Octupus nvm
20:12 Octupus it requires locked sign
20:13 OldCoder You can have that
20:13 OldCoder Do you wish it?
20:13 Octupus its alright
20:13 Octupus :)
20:13 OldCoder Adding money to OctuTeam world
20:13 OldCoder Locked Sign was already present
20:13 Octupus really
20:13 Octupus :o
20:15 OldCoder Rebuilding worlds
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20:15 OldCoder Money going into octuteam. It is already present in tuxworld.
20:15 Octupus oooo
20:15 OldCoder RealBadAngel, the EU texture change is part of this
20:15 Octupus i need to help with something
20:16 Octupus anything u or rba need help with
20:16 OldCoder Octupus, help Taoki perhaps
20:16 Octupus ok
20:16 Octupus Taoki,i am willing to help with 3d meshes
20:16 Taoki Octupus: Thanks, I'm badly looking for help ATM
20:16 OldCoder Restarting U.S. worlds. Please test.
20:17 OldCoder Octupus, your world has the money mod now. Review the thread for details.
20:17 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Copying new _game over to EU
20:17 Octupus thank you
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20:19 Taoki Octupus: Are you good with C++ and the lua api?
20:19 Octupus not C++ but maybe i can help with lua api
20:20 Taoki I need help with the c++ most sadly
20:20 Taoki The interface of the lua API is done for all features, but the code has issues
20:20 Octupus ok
20:20 Octupus ok
20:20 Octupus if u need help in anything i am willing 2
20:21 Taoki I currently need help in finishing the attachment code, which is a nightmare
20:22 Octupus anything i can assist in that
20:24 Taoki If you can checkout my GIT branch, test how they work and see what else needs to be coded and modified in the code. I can help with getting a general idea of it
20:24 Octupus ok
20:25 Octupus send a link to your git
20:25 Taoki sure, just a sec
20:25 Taoki https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest/tree/models for code, https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest_game/tree/models for game data (contains LUA script used for this)
20:26 Taoki You can also see the code here: https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest/compare/models (click the Files Changed button . link)
20:27 Octupus download it?
20:28 Taoki For the attachments, I need to set them both client-side and server-side. Client-side I haven't gotten to yet, I need to get them off a skeletal bone
20:28 Taoki Download what?
20:28 Octupus u said to test
20:28 Taoki Yes. Can you checkout my git remote and branch?
20:28 Octupus ooook
20:29 Taoki I don't have a git patch or archive, sorry
20:30 Taoki Anyway, in this case look where m_parent is used in content_sao.cpp and m_attachment_parent in content_cao.cpp (I think it's not used there yet). Mostly the server one is the problem now, and properly attaching it to the parent origin. Then in the client I need it to get attached to specific skeletal bones
20:30 Octupus ok
20:30 Octupus for some reason i actually understand this ^^
20:30 Taoki For tonight I think I won't be working on the code any more. I don't have the energy to... there's issues everywhere, nothing works well. Unless someone succeeds in helping I might leave it as it is, I just can't fix all of it
20:31 Taoki that's good. It's needed for someone to understand the code, there are many complex features
20:31 Octupus get the best c++ coders
20:31 Taoki It needs to be someone who knows the minetest code
20:32 Octupus the big man
20:32 Octupus for more coding help i suggest to go to #minetest-dev
20:32 Taoki Dunno if c55 feels like working on a code I started. I might ask though
20:32 Taoki I'm there too, but it's almost always inactive
20:32 Octupus true
20:33 Octupus i will look into gameconf
20:34 Taoki The script is a simple one. Code is the biggest part
20:34 Octupus opps wrong thing XD
20:34 Taoki ah ok :P
20:34 Octupus where is your code?
20:35 Taoki https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest/tree/models
20:36 Octupus alrighty
20:37 Octupus im looking in the src
20:38 Octupus where is the problem?
20:39 Taoki ok,
20:39 Taoki The code has many problems, but the first thing are the attachments...
20:40 Taoki They need to be done both server-side and client-side. Server-side the attached object must copy the origin of the parent object, as well as rotation. I already have an attempt at origin being copied... in the content_sao file, look where m_parent is used
20:41 Taoki I trid to test it out, and it works for a bit but then the server crashes with a segmentation fault
20:41 Octupus alright
20:41 Taoki After the server one works, if a bone is set when the animation function is passed, the client in cao needs to use the proper irrlicht function (which I don't know) to get the skeletal joint then set its origin and position to it when updating them
20:41 Octupus so the server side doesnt work
20:42 Taoki See in line 911, void updateNodePos() for where that must happen
20:43 Taoki Octupus: So far now. I tried to test it with something simple and the origin of the object is copied over (in a laggy way), but then I get a segmentation fault
20:43 Taoki Server-only attachments are also laggy. In irrlicht I'll need to set the object as a child speficically
20:44 Octupus ok send a download of serverside so i can test it out
20:44 Taoki server binary for tha tlatest GIT code?
20:44 Taoki *the code I linked
20:45 Taoki I can send both binaries, just a second. Can I DCC them to you?
20:45 Octupus ?
20:45 Octupus send the download of the whole thing so i can test out singleplayer then server
20:45 Taoki Can I send the binaries to you via DCC? I assume that's the download you mentioned
20:45 Taoki ah
20:46 Octupus i feel like coder doing multiple things at once
20:46 Taoki Octupus: Are you still around in 15-30 minutes? I'll add some more code comments to make it easier to see the issues then send
20:46 Octupus its confusing but fun
20:46 Octupus yes
20:46 Taoki Yes, don't wanna make it confusing
20:46 Taoki ok
20:47 Octupus :)
21:00 Octupus RealBadAngel,how u make chromium ingot again i have the alloy furnace
21:01 Octupus Nvm
21:03 Taoki Octupus: Finished adding the comments. Will try to make a zip
21:05 Octupus ok
21:05 Taoki Octupus: I hope you're on Linux, I don't have Windows binaries up to date
21:05 Octupus nope
21:06 Taoki ah :/
21:06 Taoki Hope you can compile the code for Windows then. No way to here
21:06 Octupus i wish i cud bro
21:06 Octupus the things to compile dont like my pc :l
21:06 Taoki ok. I dunno how to get windows binaries
21:07 Octupus :l
21:07 Octupus anything else i can assist with?
21:08 Taoki dunno then...
21:08 Taoki i just need help with the code for now
21:08 Octupus alright
21:10 Taoki Can someone otherwise explain how I can get the meshnode of an ActiveClientObject? Just like for the current object there's m_animatedscenenode
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21:21 OldCoder Taoki, I can build Windows binaries
21:21 OldCoder Not today but not difficult
21:21 OldCoder Except LevelDB versions
21:23 Taoki It's ok
21:24 OldCoder Taoki, I forget and I am sorry; you are OpenSUSE. Is this correct?
21:24 Taoki OldCoder: You know general C++, and since no one who can help is around I need to ask you too if you could help finish the code. I added code comments to explain the biggest problems. I can't do much if someone else can't help me out, I would really appreciate it if you can sometime
21:24 Taoki Yeah, openSUSE. It's ok
21:27 OldCoder Taoki, we can cross-build for Windows under openSUSE
21:27 OldCoder I can show you how at some point
21:27 OldCoder Regarding C++ I will explain something in PM in a bit
21:27 Taoki nice. Yeah later if that's ok
21:27 Taoki ok
21:27 OldCoder Later is fine
21:30 Octupus this person wants to become a farmer idk y
21:30 Octupus i guess he likes my farm:)
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21:36 Octupus XD this guy just bought 150 promix blocks
21:36 Taoki RealBadAngel: Logged onto the server again, textures are indeed different now. I must admit I think the old ones were a lot better. The current ones don't seem so detailed and pretty. My personal suggestion would be to revert them if possible, and if others would like that too
21:37 * ruskie likes the new textures a lot
21:37 RealBadAngel Taoki, hold on it was not final
21:37 Taoki eg: Torches are some simple sticks now, while the old ones were very pretty and had those smoke puffs
21:37 Taoki ok
21:38 RealBadAngel that what you saw were default torches
21:38 Taoki RealBadAngel: Is the ground texture the default one too? That also looks a bit dull in comparison
21:39 Octupus OldCoder,i see u on ma server
21:39 Octupus :D
21:42 OldCoder Yes
21:42 * jordach is bored
21:42 OldCoder The farm is impressive
21:42 OldCoder jordach, you wanted interact for somebody on EU correct?
21:42 OldCoder Ask RBA he is there
21:43 jordach lemme sign in as them
21:43 jordach s/them/her
21:43 Octupus :D
21:43 * Taoki will probably log around the servers too. Need to relax after the strain this whole code put on me :(
21:43 jordach YES, A NEW FEMALE minetest player
21:43 OldCoder Taoki, good
21:44 Taoki I feel like shooting someone right now
21:44 ruskie hehe
21:44 Octupus :l
21:45 jordach Taoki - feel free to take it out on me
21:45 jordach i WANT something to do
21:45 Taoki nuu, no one here (nor anyone specifically for that matter)
21:45 jordach OldCoder i am in as HannahJuly
21:46 OldCoder k
21:46 RealBadAngel Taoki: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2419
21:46 RealBadAngel this is 128x version
21:47 OldCoder RealBadAngel, grant HannahJuly interact please for jordach
21:47 RealBadAngel EU server will have 32x
21:47 Taoki RealBadAngel: ok. I can't say I like the ground and stone textures more than the old ones. The torch is also a lot more simple and not as pretty IMO.
21:47 Taoki Would be nice if a merge between the two could be done at least
21:48 Taoki I imagine there's no way to override them locally so I can still get the old ones
21:48 RealBadAngel there is
21:48 OldCoder RealBadAngel, grant HannahJuly interact please for jordach
21:48 RealBadAngel you dont need to use server textures
21:48 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I'll have the mods link in a moment
21:48 Taoki nice
21:48 RealBadAngel use any pack you wish
21:48 Taoki RealBadAngel: Also, I disablet the texture atlas and still get corrupt inventory textures
21:49 RealBadAngel OldCoder, granted already
21:49 OldCoder RealBadAngel, see PM
21:50 jordach there
21:50 jordach reset her to the spawn
21:50 RealBadAngel how?
21:50 Taoki What server are you on? Can I join too?
21:50 jordach lava
21:51 jordach Taoki - OldCoder's europe
21:51 Taoki ah, I'm there already then
21:51 Taoki I'm MirceaKitsune there (and in most other places)
21:51 jordach back to building my underwater base in mc
21:51 ruskie heh
21:51 jordach (minetests oceans arent big enough)
21:52 ruskie ow?
21:52 jordach (nor are a flatland that has an endless ocean)
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21:54 M13 hello
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22:04 Octupus Hello
22:04 Octupus M13,i still get invalid password
22:07 jordach night all
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22:15 OldCoder Taoki, others: Europe going down because we are adding RealBadAngel textures
22:16 Taoki ok
22:18 OldCoder Restarted
22:18 OldCoder RealBadAngel, please check textures
22:19 Octupus coder is just floating in my server XD
22:22 Octupus I NEED HELP WITH A MOD
22:22 Octupus can any1 help ?
22:23 Octupus its very simple
22:24 Octupus Hello any1
22:26 OldCoder Octupus, I am busy elsewhere
22:27 Octupus ok
22:27 Octupus hmmi need rba at this monet to create this mod
22:27 OldCoder What must the mod do?
22:28 Octupus make a selling vendr lisence
22:29 OldCoder Maybe the money mod maker will help
22:29 OldCoder RealBadAngel is busy with a new idea
22:29 OldCoder Portals!
22:30 Octupus :D
22:30 ruskie hehe
22:30 Octupus i just need a flat surface
22:30 Octupus like a card
22:31 OldCoder Octupus, it is about midnight his time; let him relax with today's work
22:31 OldCoder But possibly later on
22:31 Octupus ohhh his time srry then :)
22:32 Octupus hmmm
22:33 ruskie it's actually 00:33 or so
22:33 Octupus :)
22:34 Octupus is there anyway to make a woodenslab smaller
22:34 RealBadAngel step away from monitor ;)
22:35 RealBadAngel its buggy implementation, it makes also neigbouring nodes smaller too
22:35 RealBadAngel but still, it works :)
22:35 Octupus rba a quick question
22:36 RealBadAngel but a real answer: make another nodebox for it
22:36 Octupus hmm
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22:36 Kacey hello
22:36 Octupus hello
22:36 Octupus i wonder if i can find a mod that is flat
22:36 Kacey i finished the interior
22:37 Kacey flat?
22:37 Octupus cool il check it out
22:37 Kacey ok
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22:37 RealBadAngel flat mod? :)
22:37 Octupus so i want to make a card
22:37 Octupus a vendor card
22:37 RealBadAngel use very thin nodebox
22:37 Octupus where do i get them?
22:38 RealBadAngel ask VanessaE for it
22:38 RealBadAngel shes good with nodeboxes
22:38 Octupus ok
22:38 RealBadAngel meanwhile use another drawtype
22:38 Octupus ?
22:39 RealBadAngel raillike
22:39 RealBadAngel rails are plain flat
22:39 Octupus yes but i want a handheld card :l
22:40 Octupus if i take part  of technic from the drill and change a few lines of code and change the texture will it work?
22:41 Octupus il just use rail
22:42 Octupus and make it not placeable
22:42 Octupus looks like i will have to alter a few things
22:45 Kacey im making the middle twer
22:45 Octupus cool
22:45 Kacey ya
22:46 Octupus any1 tell me what to put in paramtype
22:46 M13 Kacey! hey
22:46 Octupus il leave it with light
22:47 RealBadAngel going to sleep
22:47 RealBadAngel bye all
22:48 Kacey hello
22:48 M13 do you still play minetest?
22:49 Kacey m13 do u have logmein hamachi
22:49 Kacey yes i still play
22:49 M13 Kacey you hosting a server?
22:49 Kacey hamachi server
22:49 M13 do you want me to forward a port for you?
22:49 Kacey building a castle to make a schem
22:49 M13 so no hamachi
22:50 Kacey no i cannot connect from this computer
22:50 M13 what
22:50 Octupus bye rba
22:50 M13 is ur server running on ur computer?
22:50 Kacey do u have hamachi
22:51 M13 no im linux
22:51 Kacey yes it is running on my computer
22:51 Octupus hmmmmm
22:51 Kacey idk maybe if u look up the right thing it would work
22:51 M13 Kacey do you have Team Viewer?
22:52 Kacey like logmein hamachi for linux
22:52 Kacey teamviewer?
22:52 OldCoder RealBadAngel, good night
22:52 M13 download and install it here : http://teamviewer.com
22:52 Octupus i need to resize this to 16x16 then i will be finished
22:53 Kacey octupus i am closing the hamachi server for a while
22:53 M13 Ill setup ur server so i dont need to use hamachi :P
22:54 Octupus ok :)
22:56 M13 Kacey?
22:57 Kacey what
22:57 M13 did you get TeamViewer?
22:57 Taoki I'm off too. Watching My Little Pony then going to bed. Tomorrow I'll probably murder my brain even more on that code :P
22:57 Octupus :P
22:58 Octupus http://pastebin.com/TCzDj2vg
22:58 Kacey im setting it up now
22:58 Octupus any1 wanna double check that for me
23:01 Octupus any1?
23:02 M13 ok kacey when it is done give me the password and ID
23:02 Kacey ok
23:02 M13 ko
23:02 M13 ok
23:03 Kacey teamviewer 7?
23:03 M13 yes
23:03 Kacey 174 271 977
23:03 Kacey id
23:03 Octupus M13 can u check that link please
23:03 Kacey password
23:03 Kacey 7485
23:04 Octupus ANY1 wanna check that goddamn link for any motherfucking mistakes
23:05 Kacey lol calm down a little
23:05 Kacey wive
23:05 Kacey hello
23:08 Kacey mode?
23:08 Kacey the box ur computer connects to for internet
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23:27 Kacey m13 u on
23:27 M13 yea IP is m13.sytes.net Port 30001
23:28 M13 ill be on in a minute or two
23:28 Kacey i cannot connect from this computer
23:28 M13 Y?
23:28 Octupus mod 2 has been done
23:28 Kacey what is ur teamviewer thing
23:28 M13 try now i just started it
23:29 Kacey i tried before it wont work
23:29 M13 just try :P
23:29 Kacey wont work
23:30 Kacey what is your teamviewer stuff
23:31 M13 um
23:31 M13 one sc
23:31 M13 sec
23:32 M13 153 236 837
23:32 M13 password
23:32 M13 ubuntu
23:32 Octupus hhmmmmmmmim trying to resize this pic
23:36 Octupus MOD IS FINISH
23:37 Octupus :D thank you celeron55,for being a boss :D
23:38 Kacey octupus
23:38 Kacey teamviewer is awesome
23:38 Octupus ik :l
23:38 Octupus i used it tons of times XD
23:38 Kacey do you have teamviewer
23:38 Octupus no i removed it
23:39 Kacey y
23:39 Octupus i didnt have any use for it
23:39 Kacey can you redownload it please
23:40 Octupus no :l
23:40 Kacey ok
23:40 Kacey can u get on the server please
23:40 Kacey i need help
23:43 Octupus can any1 tell me if i can resize the picture to how i want it
23:43 OldCoder Octupus, do you mean in the game?
23:44 Octupus no in paint but i got it
23:44 OldCoder Octupus, the GIMP can do this
23:44 Octupus yes
23:44 Octupus the last card for the night is bank card
23:45 Octupus which i guess is debit card
23:45 Octupus alright i need tons of help now
23:45 OldCoder To do what?
23:46 Octupus im making the debit card have actual money in it
23:46 OldCoder That could be based on the money mod, possibly
23:46 OldCoder Or maybe you could convince that author to use it
23:46 Octupus shall i zip it now and send u a link
23:46 Kacey oldcoder aare you a good  builder
23:46 OldCoder I wouldn't know what to do with it yet
23:47 OldCoder Kacey, no; I am presently writing a server framework
23:47 OldCoder I haven't learned much of the game yet
23:47 Octupus well there is a use for it a vendor card
23:47 Kacey ooh ok
23:47 OldCoder Yes
23:47 Octupus only ppl that have this card can sell on my server
23:48 Octupus im going to download the money mod and alter now things
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23:48 Octupus hi mood
23:48 TheRedMood Hello
23:48 TheRedMood A lot of bad things happenning now
23:49 OldCoder ?
23:49 OldCoder Has anybody seen NekoGloop today?
23:49 Octupus nope
23:49 Octupus hmmmmm the creator of the money mod has his code in a mess
23:50 Octupus i think ik a bit of code
23:50 TheRedMood I hate this :(
23:50 TheRedMood Why was I banned?
23:50 OldCoder TheRedMood, what?
23:51 OldCoder Where?
23:51 Fixer left #minetest
23:51 TheRedMood I was suddently banned from a lot of my favorit channels
23:51 Octupus maybe is i try      input = "money"   output="nothing"
23:51 Octupus :0
23:51 TheRedMood This is very wierd, since I am liked in this community
23:51 TheRedMood Communities.
23:52 Octupus true
23:52 Octupus hmmm
23:52 Octupus y is this code in a mess
23:53 Octupus coder it is so bad i cannot find what i am looking for
23:54 Octupus well i guess ppl who show me the card will get money
23:54 Octupus credit card
23:54 Octupus but i need a use for the debit card
23:55 Octupus any ideas?
23:56 Octupus any1
23:56 Kacey i have an idea
23:56 Octupus ye
23:56 Octupus *yes
23:56 Kacey help me with the xastle lol
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23:57 Octupus XXDDD lol mod bro mod
23:57 Kacey i can read code
23:57 Octupus i might have to make crafting recipes to make my night
23:57 Kacey i can find what you need in that money mod
23:57 Octupus i need a command that can input money into a credit card
23:57 OldCoder <Octupus> coder it is so bad i cannot find what i am looking for
23:58 Octupus the code :)
23:58 OldCoder If it is specific I will take a look
23:58 OldCoder Octupus, I am distracted elsewhere. What needs to be found?
23:58 Octupus well i need to make a command to input money into the credit card
23:59 Octupus also to get the money into the credit card

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