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00:18 khonkhortisan "all fields allowed in item definitions" is a type?
00:19 khonkhortisan http://api.minetest.net/type/index
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00:31 cornernote yeah, it shouldnt be hyperlinked tho
00:31 cornernote it should hyperlink to the Item type
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00:32 Mallot1 party up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:36 OldCoder Hey
00:37 Mallot1 HI
00:38 Mallot1 do you  know anything about SDL/OPENGL/C++
00:40 khonkhortisan SDL has its own way of handling joysticks
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00:42 envoyxiphos Hello.
00:46 cornernote puns stop bots...
00:46 cornernote i just submit, and it lets me though
00:47 cornernote do they really stop bots?
00:47 cornernote i bet a i can make a bot it doesnt stop =)
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00:47 cornernote i'll spam cornernote.net all over the forums... nobody will suspect me
00:47 cornernote maybe it was one of the other cornernotes ?
00:51 envoyxiphos ..
00:51 envoyxiphos Are you even the real one?
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00:55 envoyxiphos Hey m13
00:55 M13_ hey
00:55 envoyxiphos is the server up?
00:55 Mallot1 hi
00:56 envoyxiphos Ubuntu??
00:57 Mallot1 or ubuntunerd
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01:29 M13 OldCoder
01:29 OldCoder M13
01:29 envoyxiphos M13..
01:29 envoyxiphos STOP SHUTTING YOUR SERVER DPOWN...
01:30 envoyxiphos OldCoder
01:30 OldCoder envoyxiphos
01:30 OldCoder M13
01:30 OldCoder John Boy
01:30 M13 yes
01:30 OldCoder Sue Ellen
01:30 envoyxiphos Can you do something for me ?
01:30 OldCoder Who?
01:30 OldCoder M13 or me?
01:30 M13 Look at ##oldcoder, OldCoder
01:30 envoyxiphos ]you Old
01:30 OldCoder envoyxiphos, Go on
01:32 envoyxiphos Okay. Can You host a server for me and manage it until tommorow when I can be a little more active. I gotta go to work in the morning because I have a seminar. But later on I will get on.
01:33 envoyxiphos I know what you said.
01:33 envoyxiphos But I just need this done.
01:33 OldCoder envoyxiphos, Let me get this straight
01:33 OldCoder You wish a new server created
01:33 OldCoder You have no world or fork
01:33 envoyxiphos I want a clean world
01:33 OldCoder And wish me to do this tonight
01:34 OldCoder Though you will not be involved because you are busy
01:34 OldCoder Huh
01:34 OldCoder envoyxiphos, Presently I am not hosting more clean worlds except for special cases
01:34 OldCoder There needs to be a reason
01:34 envoyxiphos Yes sir. I dont think that is to hard right? Or if you dont want to you do not have to but I will be involved in the process tommorow.
01:34 OldCoder Such as a fork, a built up world, etc.
01:34 OldCoder It is not about hard
01:35 OldCoder Server resources are not unlimited
01:35 OldCoder And iqualfragile here has pointed out the issue of fragmentation
01:35 envoyxiphos M13'S Server's are going down a lot nowadays and Im always on there
01:35 OldCoder We need to get more people building on the same worlds
01:35 envoyxiphos Okay.
01:35 OldCoder Well, will he give me his maps?
01:35 OldCoder If he wishes to move here that might be fine
01:35 envoyxiphos If I can get 5 people to get on is that good?
01:35 OldCoder If there is a world or a fork
01:36 OldCoder Will M13 give me his maps?
01:36 envoyxiphos wait.
01:36 OldCoder If the issue is that his server is going down
01:36 envoyxiphos one sec
01:36 envoyxiphos very often
01:39 M13 OldCoder, look at ##oldcoder
01:39 envoyxiphos Okay. How am I going to give you this world?
01:39 M13 I restarted the server envoy >.>
01:39 OldCoder k
01:40 OldCoder envoyxiphos, If it is his world he would provide a ZIP file
01:40 OldCoder M13, I see the wget issue
01:40 envoyxiphos I will provide the .zip
01:40 OldCoder envoyxiphos, All right. How large is it?
01:40 envoyxiphos mediafire a good hosting?
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01:40 OldCoder envoyxiphos, Use sendspace
01:40 envoyxiphos Okay
01:40 OldCoder envoyxiphos, they will give you a delete link
01:40 OldCoder envoyxiphos, Delete the file afterward. Use PM
01:41 OldCoder to notify me of the download link
01:41 khonkhortisan style="-moz-user-select: none;" <-- Is that all you got? They're going to have to try harder than that if they want me to not copy lyrics
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01:48 MiJyn hi
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02:28 OldCoder VanessaE, if you return PM me
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03:30 cornernote Zzz
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03:34 OldCoder T_A_N_K, wb
03:35 T_A_N_K ty
03:35 T_A_N_K game mode is updated, so now it does not reaquire creative mode variable
03:36 cornernote hey tank
03:38 cornernote can someone check http://api.minetest.net/ and leave feedback if they think the site is too slow ?
03:38 cornernote if it is, i'll need to move the host
03:46 NakedFury updated dokutest texture pack
03:46 NakedFury now all default textures are supported, yeah
03:46 cornernote thats a nice texture pack
03:47 NakedFury well I dont take credit. I am just a humble man that ported the textures for minetest.
03:48 cornernote thats still a lot of effort, thank you for the time it took
03:48 cornernote is there more images so you can support more mods ?
03:48 NakedFury yes
03:48 cornernote being 16x is good, cos it doesnt really matter if you don't support some mods
03:48 NakedFury the pack is 32x
03:49 OldCoder NakedFury, shall I update; then?
03:49 NakedFury well I added wools, dyes, animated torches, animated lava, vessels, and some texture tweaks
03:50 OldCoder Sounds nice
03:50 OldCoder Going in shortly
03:50 NakedFury I will later port the High and Dark versions then slowly add all the mod support I possibly can
03:52 OldCoder Sure
03:52 OldCoder NakedFury, Everybody will see this
03:52 OldCoder Therefore continue the work
03:55 NakedFury I might also try MiniDoku which is the 16x version but the problem is in the grass and some shrub textures, they come in a white-grey scale because minecraft uses a hue or gradient thingy so they change colors depending on the biomes
03:55 OldCoder One step at a time
03:56 NakedFury I was having that same problem with 32x but then I found the pack version before MC started doing this so I can do grasses ok now
03:56 OldCoder k
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04:32 NakedFury what would it take for all possible game settings added to the Settings tab/screen inside the game?
04:32 NakedFury and allowing textures for all windows in the game too
04:48 khonkhortisan cornernote, the title of the page goes up under the top bar
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04:49 khonkhortisan if I make the window short it looks fine, but if I make firefox tall, the text moves up.
04:50 khonkhortisan no, it might be how wide it is
04:51 VanessaE hi all
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04:55 OldCoder VanessaE, hello
04:55 VanessaE hi
04:58 OldCoder Servers going down briefly
04:58 khonkhortisan (again)
04:58 khonkhortisan :P
04:59 VanessaE I'm about to hack his server :D
05:00 khonkhortisan it can't be that difficult
05:00 NakedFury im not sure about the torches. I only did 8 frames and added smoke as an extra
05:01 VanessaE NakedFury: you should see the ones I use in HDX 512px.  as for smoke, it should not be part of the torch animation, it should be spawned as an entity with its own animation/movement
05:01 khonkhortisan cornernote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psCJHV2EOJ4&amp;feature=youtu.be
05:02 NakedFury lava has lots of frames
05:03 VanessaE my 512px lava is only 16 frames for each of _source and _flowing
05:03 khonkhortisan I was suprised a 50/50 alpha layer in gimp doesn't blend two images half and half.
05:07 NakedFury I think doku lava has 123 lava frames
05:08 NakedFury its 32 * 3936 in size
05:13 VanessaE 123 frames?  eek
05:14 VanessaE the most irrlicht can handle is 16384 pixels in a vertical strip, which is 32 frames at 512px
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05:48 cornernote why can i use ip.popen on windows builds but not on linux builds ?
05:48 cornernote io.popen
05:48 VanessaE noclue
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06:04 ecube :O
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06:18 VanessaE bbl, off to bed.
06:30 OldCoder Rebuilding worlds to add changes
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06:44 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=44536#p44536 < 777 posts
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07:29 NekoGloop I had used the entirety of dokcraft lava frame
07:29 NekoGloop +s
07:29 NekoGloop It animates like it's high on something
07:34 Calinou PSA: changed my mods' licenses
07:36 VanessaE so much for sleeping..
07:36 VanessaE Calinou: to what?
07:37 Calinou CC BY-SA for textures (since the default ones use the same license... this means I used to do copyright infringement :D)
07:37 Calinou zlib/libpng for code
07:37 Calinou slightly more serious WTFPL, imo
07:37 VanessaE zlib is a license?  didn't know that
07:37 Calinou zlib/libpng is pretty much like WTFPL, but it has two differences: you cannot claim that you wrote the software, nor you can say your work is unmodified if you modified it
07:38 Calinou attribution is not required
07:38 Calinou sauerbraten uses zlib license :P
07:38 Calinou and of course, thanks to marktraceur, more ores stays under gplv3 :P
07:39 VanessaE *shrug* you could always go back to the old version and rewrite it ;)
07:40 VanessaE (not that I have a big problem with GPL)
07:40 OldCoder VanessaE, I tried to delete the door but it simply moved around
07:40 OldCoder Does anybody here use Fedora 17?
07:41 VanessaE OldCoder: dig at the hinges
07:41 OldCoder VanessaE, I will try again
07:41 Calinou fedora... can't... resist... to laugh
07:41 VanessaE or worldedit it away :)
07:41 OldCoder Calinou, we had a request for a Fedora 17 MT client
07:41 OldCoder I built one
07:41 Calinou just build from source :P
07:42 Calinou gtg for now, bye
07:42 OldCoder VanessaE, It just opens and closes the door
07:43 VanessaE OldCoder: point at the *edge* of the door with the hinges and dig there
07:43 VanessaE it helps if you have a mese pick or some other fast-digging tool
07:43 VanessaE (makes it easier to actually dig the door without accidentally triggering the flipping code)
07:44 VanessaE afaik all doors provided by all mods have this same issue, but there's no real workaround except to point at the edge of the door and keep trying until you find the right angle to dig from
07:46 OldCoder VanessaE, It just opens and closes
07:46 OldCoder Falling asleep now
07:46 OldCoder Zzz
07:47 VanessaE keep trying :-()
07:47 VanessaE :-)
07:47 VanessaE step to the side and turn just a little and try again
07:47 VanessaE you'll find it
07:48 NekoGloop Stand in a position you are pointing at both the open and closed parts of the door.
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07:58 RealBadAngel hi
08:02 VanessaE Ok, question
08:03 VanessaE if I execute a function, let's say widget(a, b) and that function isn't actually defined anywhere (say, the mod that defines it is not installed), what happens?
08:03 VanessaE do I get a nil back?  a crash?
08:03 RealBadAngel crash
08:03 VanessaE damn
08:03 VanessaE Ok, then I need to test for its existence before I try to execute it
08:04 RealBadAngel that for examply happened when i called mesecons function and some1 had older version of it
08:04 RealBadAngel without that function
08:05 RealBadAngel im not quite sure how to check if the function exists
08:05 RealBadAngel btw roses are back :)
08:05 VanessaE good deal
08:05 VanessaE is the ratio more to everyone's liking?
08:06 RealBadAngel we will see
08:06 VanessaE ah
08:06 VanessaE if type(f)=="function" then f(a,b) else do-something-else end
08:06 VanessaE for a function named f()
08:07 RealBadAngel im playin on the europe server and hunting bugs
08:07 RealBadAngel found already a few
08:07 RealBadAngel im stuck for example with default dyes
08:08 RealBadAngel unified dyes got only those in bottles right?
08:08 VanessaE yeah
08:08 VanessaE the default dyes are some obscure powders
08:08 VanessaE unified dyes does it right - I patterned it after those liquid dyes you buy in the store for dying t-shirts and such
08:09 VanessaE ("Rit" brand I think?)
08:09 RealBadAngel yeah but my recipes use default ones :)
08:12 VanessaE right
08:12 VanessaE and unified dyes uses the groups
08:12 VanessaE so whatever works with default should with with UD :-)
08:17 RealBadAngel mine dont work
08:18 RealBadAngel an example which will work for both red dye and bottled red dye?
08:19 VanessaE did you use the groups method?
08:19 VanessaE I think it's group:dye,basecolor=red
08:20 NekoGloop No :P
08:20 VanessaE recipe = {'wool:white', 'group:dye,basecolor_red'},
08:20 VanessaE I was close.
08:20 NekoGloop There you go :3
08:20 VanessaE underscore instead of equals.
08:21 RealBadAngel thx
08:22 VanessaE as long as your recipes use that form, they'll work with mine or the inbuilt ones (or excolor_xxxx or unicolor_xxxx if you need something other than one of the 12 or so base colors)
08:29 VanessaE anyone know the name of that mod that lets the user place grey blocks (with green streaks) to protect an area?
08:30 VanessaE not node_ownership of course, but the other one
08:30 NekoGloop protect?
08:32 VanessaE not finding it at all
08:37 RealBadAngel VanessaE, you wanted ratio 2:1 for brass?
08:38 VanessaE yeah, 2 copper to one chromium or zinc or whatever it was
08:38 RealBadAngel adding it right now
08:48 RealBadAngel damn, ive lost again that 16x brass ingot texture :(
08:48 RealBadAngel VanessaE, could you?
08:48 VanessaE sure.  lowrez:  https://raw.github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/master/textures/homedecor_brass_ingot.png
08:49 VanessaE highrez:  https://raw.github.com/VanessaE/512px-realistic-textures/master/Vanessa_512HD/homedecor_brass_ingot.png
08:51 RealBadAngel damn that gimp is gettin annoyin
08:51 RealBadAngel i think i will look for older version
09:08 RealBadAngel VanessaE, ok, brass and recipes for it are added
09:31 VanessaE thanks
09:31 VanessaE how do you define the new item?
09:31 VanessaE technic:brass_ingot, or homedecor:brass_ingot?
09:32 RealBadAngel technic
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09:32 RealBadAngel but i can make an alias
09:32 RealBadAngel to just brass_ingot
09:32 NekoGloop She could as well
09:34 RealBadAngel i just got a idea for nice tool
09:34 RealBadAngel were runing there and back with some buckets
09:34 VanessaE I will just adapt my recipes to use it directly
09:34 VanessaE no need for aliases.
09:35 RealBadAngel why not to make kinda tank, canister that could hold a few more sources than a bucket?
09:36 RealBadAngel https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSUJCUgrdA5V4d8lF4yfovC3s_kLZrk6SY90j8RGxlwpUF391ix
09:37 RealBadAngel somethin like this
09:37 VanessaE possible
09:37 VanessaE but not for homedecor :)
09:39 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, want to make it?
09:40 NekoGloop Wouldnt be hard, but not right now
09:40 NekoGloop Too tired
09:40 NekoGloop It's 5:40 am here
09:41 RealBadAngel here is 11:40 am
09:41 VanessaE I think, in the interest of making it look the way a bucket-like tool acts (to scoop-up the water), it should look like a large e.g. 5-10 gallon bucket
09:41 VanessaE rather than a fuel can
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10:52 VanessaE ok time to try to get some sleep again
10:53 VanessaE night all
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11:45 cornernote made a 10 min vid showing how to do level 1 of skyblock - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-qpuXP88SU
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12:06 NekoGloop ok, well i now have gimp because i'm bored
12:09 NekoGloop what the hell are all these buttons
12:24 NekoGloop quick question about gimp: i hear it allows you to save with a certain amount of colors in the image? like 256, 32-bit, etc. how is this achieved?
12:26 NekoGloop oh i found it
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12:54 tripod http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=vkJ5ItzEq3M
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13:18 OldCoder GIMP is useful
13:25 khonkhortisan I know there's a way to leave a message so it arrives when someone joins, but how do I leave a message so they get it when they talk?
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13:35 khonkhortisan hello not pilz
13:35 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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13:52 khonkhortisan 06:51:46: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player <-- is that just the client being faster than the server?
13:58 anunakki just paid 75 dollars
13:58 anunakki for a damn laptop charger
13:59 anunakki it better not break like the shitty one they provide when you buy the laptop
13:59 anunakki atleast this one is a nice 90 watt
13:59 anunakki instead of a 65 watt piece of crap
14:00 khonkhortisan I got a laptop screen for ~$111, it was worth it to keep it working.
14:08 anunakki btw i saw the road you built
14:08 anunakki did you see my addition to it?
14:08 khonkhortisan the STOP? yes
14:08 anunakki haha yea
14:08 khonkhortisan the road narrowed a little at the end
14:08 khonkhortisan my stoplight isn't very good
14:08 anunakki yea i noticed after i finished
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14:34 OldCoder anunakki, wb
14:34 anunakki ty
14:34 OldCoder NakedFury, PilzAdam Hello
14:34 PilzAdam hi
14:36 OldCoder PilzAdam, If you don't mind: papyrus_bed contains a file whose name contains a space. Please replace the space with an underscore. Similarly for Ambience mod. One filename contains a space. In that case one text file must be edited as well.
14:36 PilzAdam i am not the creator of these mods
14:36 OldCoder Oh?
14:37 OldCoder PilzAdam, I was told you took over Ambience from Neuromancer
14:37 PilzAdam i just wrote the basic code
14:37 OldCoder PilzAdam, and you are correct about papyrus_bed
14:37 OldCoder All right
14:37 OldCoder I will patch on this end
14:38 OldCoder Can anybody say if this file is used? papyrus_bed_crafting_recipe.png
14:38 OldCoder Does not seem to be used in that mod
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14:43 OldCoder NakedFury, if willing; rename file in DokuTest whose filename contains spaces
14:44 RealBadAngel hi PilzAdam
14:44 PilzAdam hi RealBadAngel
14:44 RealBadAngel sorry i didnt make fire
14:44 PilzAdam and lava?
14:44 RealBadAngel original lava is not good enough?
14:45 RealBadAngel i tried but im not so good with animations :(
14:46 PilzAdam the water just looks brilliant!
14:46 PilzAdam i thought you can make a better lava
14:46 RealBadAngel ok, i will try then
14:46 RealBadAngel btw, take a look at my cotton farm
14:47 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/cotton.png
14:48 RealBadAngel with antyaliasing it looks cool
14:48 PilzAdam nice!
14:48 thexyz too blurred
14:49 RealBadAngel yeah, but looks nice
14:49 RealBadAngel torches are way better with it
14:50 RealBadAngel its with trilinear filtering
14:50 RealBadAngel i dont have client with bilinear
14:50 RealBadAngel sfan5 could make such one also
14:52 anunakki OldCoder,
14:52 anunakki the freebsd vm is almost finished
14:52 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/trilinear.png
14:52 anunakki working on fluxbox/cairo-dock customization
14:52 anunakki atm
14:52 OldCoder anunakki, O.K.
14:52 RealBadAngel its with 16x textures
14:52 RealBadAngel world looks quite nice with such settings
14:58 Mika_R RBA, have you had any luck finding roses?
14:59 RealBadAngel i have enough of them by now
14:59 Mika_R ok, they spawn behind your house on the hill
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15:01 anunakki RealBadAngel,
15:01 anunakki what server are you on?
15:01 RealBadAngel european
15:01 anunakki ah i see
15:02 RealBadAngel thats after your nick i think
15:02 anunakki its on a vps i provided :)
15:03 OldCoder anunakki, Yes; it is called the anunakki world on my page
15:03 anunakki oh, awesome
15:03 anunakki XD
15:03 Mika_R anunakki land
15:03 OldCoder Yes
15:03 anunakki how has the server been for you guys
15:03 anunakki any lag or anything?
15:03 Mika_R RBA, how does this tree tap work?
15:04 OldCoder anunakki, it has too little RAM for more than one world ATM
15:04 RealBadAngel server works ok for me, at least no lags
15:04 OldCoder anunakki, Seems fine for one world and just a few people
15:04 anunakki nice, and yea OldCoder i figured that
15:04 OldCoder anunakki, may not support more than a few people at a time
15:04 anunakki i'd like to get a copy of the 30007 map and run that on another server in the future
15:04 OldCoder anunakki, but fine for now
15:04 anunakki i've put alot of work into 30007
15:04 OldCoder anunakki, yes
15:04 anunakki lol
15:05 RealBadAngel Mika_R, treetap had a bug, wait for update
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15:06 Mika_R ok
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15:06 Jordach hey all.. :|
15:06 * Jordach feels even worse
15:07 NekoGloop ello
15:07 * Jordach nearly threw up
15:08 PilzAdam hi Jordach
15:08 Jordach hey PilzAdam
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15:13 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, ive made very nice lookin lava, but 32x
15:14 PilzAdam :-(
15:14 RealBadAngel wait a sec
15:15 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/lava.zip
15:17 RealBadAngel scaled down to 16x its not so cool
15:19 OldCoder Preparing to rebuild worlds. Does anybody have updates or changes to add?
15:20 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, 32px is too high res
15:21 RealBadAngel but its nice
15:21 OldCoder Too high?
15:21 OldCoder Shall I use it regardless?
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15:21 PilzAdam it doesnt fit into the default textures
15:21 OldCoder k
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15:22 Calinou hi
15:22 OldCoder Calinou, wb
15:23 * Calinou 's brother has a laptop with windows that doesn't boot
15:23 Calinou been struggling for 6 hours some kind of solution that does not involve installing linux, because he's an hardcore gamer :|
15:23 Jordach Calinou, sounds like a MBR error
15:23 PilzAdam delete windows
15:23 Calinou Jordach: nope
15:23 Calinou PilzAdam: tell that to my brother :)
15:23 Jordach Calinou, explain more
15:23 PilzAdam Calinous brother: delete windows!
15:23 Calinou windows (7 home premium 64 bit) doesn't boot, bluescreen after "starting windows", none of the recovery options work, failsafe doesn't work
15:24 Calinou PilzAdam: at least, he has a laptop with a backlight that works (lubuntu live cd), unlike my old laptop :P
15:24 Calinou he can tweak it
15:24 Jordach Calinou, has the laptop been dropped?
15:24 OldCoder This looks promising. Can somebody explain the numbers here? image[1,0.6;1,2;player.png]
15:24 Calinou Jordach: no, hardware failure is unlikely, very, and it is only 8 months old :P
15:24 OldCoder I want to give everybody their own avatar
15:24 Jordach Calinou, SSD or 3.5'' drive
15:25 Calinou OldCoder: this means: "draw the player.png image at scale 1.2 at coordinates 1,0.6"
15:25 Calinou I bet
15:25 Calinou Jordach: two 3.5 internal drives, one 320GB one 500GB
15:25 Calinou OldCoder: I think, not sure :P
15:25 OldCoder Calinou, ty. Now: function(player): Can I get the player's nickname from that?
15:25 Calinou dunno
15:25 Jordach Calinou, more than likely the drive got scratched
15:25 OldCoder I will do this right now if possible; give everybody their own picture
15:25 PilzAdam OldCoder, draw the image at x=1; y=1 with width = 1, height = 2
15:25 Calinou Jordach: linux would work pretty well... he has a nvidia GPU, too :P
15:25 PilzAdam all in inv slots
15:26 Calinou and steam is coming (soon... SOON...) for linux
15:26 OldCoder PilzAdam, see above; I think all can have their own picture
15:26 Calinou but he really doesn't want that. he actually never tried linux
15:26 Calinou he keeps saying it's slow and unoptimized
15:26 Jordach Calinou, i think the disks have been scratched, which probably contains the windows kernel
15:26 PilzAdam <Calinou> OldCoder: this means: "draw the player.png image at scale 1.2 at coordinates 1,0.6"  <-- thats wrong
15:26 Calinou Jordach: I bet the "starting windows" screen would not show if the kernel didn't work :P
15:26 OldCoder PilzAdam, k
15:26 OldCoder PilzAdam, see above regarding nickname
15:26 Jordach Calinou, show me the blue screen message
15:27 Calinou it appears for about 1 second
15:27 Calinou oh and also: gparted fails to check /dev/sda disk
15:27 Calinou (from live CD)
15:27 OldCoder Yes!
15:27 Jordach Calinou, thats a damaged disk pure and simple
15:27 OldCoder It will work
15:27 Calinou it uses UEFI & GPT, there's no MBR in that computer
15:27 ownsyouall_delta Calinou: did you try doing a smart test on that drive?
15:27 Calinou ownsyouall_delta: from the BIOS menu?
15:27 ownsyouall_delta Calinou: live cd would be easier
15:27 PilzAdam Calinou, Jordach: this is not #laptop_help
15:28 Calinou ownsyouall_delta: thought you could only do that from bios menu... :/ how to? :P
15:28 Jordach Calinou, secure boot?
15:28 ownsyouall_delta Calinou: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
15:28 Calinou nope, certainly not that
15:28 Calinou 7 doesn't have secure boot
15:29 Calinou thanks
15:29 Jordach hm, i guess somethings screwing up uefi, since it uses c++ AND NOT assembly
15:29 Jordach Calinou: soloution: BUT A NEW LAPTOP; OR A TOWER
15:29 Jordach s/BUT/BUY
15:29 thexyz Calinou: smartctl -a /dev/sda
15:29 Calinou his laptop is 8 months old; do you think you should buy a new laptop every 8 months?
15:30 Calinou newer laptops are full of obsolescence shit anyway
15:30 Jordach Calinou, was it moved during operation?
15:30 Calinou yes, he has already used it while he was in a car
15:30 Jordach Calinou, doing that will scratch a disk drive
15:30 * thexyz wants laptop with matte screen and decent keyboard layout
15:31 Jordach also; i have windows 7 lappy myself
15:31 khonkhortisan anything other than qwerty
15:31 Jordach spilt water on it = dead ssd
15:31 Calinou unrelated news: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2230990818.png
15:31 Calinou (nevermind the upload speed, it glitched out)
15:31 Jordach (THANKS, SAMSUNG!)
15:31 Calinou MY CONNECTION HAS BEEN UPGRADED
15:31 Calinou I CAN DOWNLOAD SHIT AT 410KB/SEC :D
15:31 Calinou instead of 280kb/sec
15:31 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, i think i made somethin good lookin in 16x
15:31 Calinou and less ping
15:32 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, giveme!
15:32 Calinou Jordach: SSDs are pretty strong
15:32 RealBadAngel a sec
15:32 Jordach Calinou - /me has a super fast speed already and will get a speed boost next year (36mb down, 16up)
15:32 Calinou you can make a SSD fall from third floor of a building > works
15:32 Jordach Calinou, water damaged it
15:32 Jordach burnt the internals out
15:32 Jordach (well, worked for a day..)
15:32 thexyz Calinou: who does that?
15:33 Jordach thexyz, someone who likes throwing cats out of windows with SSDs attached
15:33 Calinou thexyz: people who have nothing to do eg. intel
15:33 Jordach :)
15:33 Jordach or IBM
15:33 thexyz khonkhortisan: no, i mean, with good backspace/enter keys, no pgup/down near arrows, ctrl not swapped with fn, etc
15:33 Calinou Jordach: with bread with butter on it
15:33 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/lava16x.zip
15:33 Calinou infinite electricity generation
15:34 Calinou thexyz: ctrl is not swapped with "end" usually, it's at the left of ctrl :p
15:34 Calinou though that sucks
15:34 Jordach ^ +1
15:34 Calinou I like desktop keyboard layout.
15:34 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, tell me what you think bout it
15:34 Jordach +1
15:34 Calinou put it on your laptops, manufacturers
15:34 Jordach Calinou, USB KEYBOARD
15:34 Calinou not very convenient
15:34 Calinou :p
15:35 Jordach Calinou, i sync the laptop to a tv
15:35 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, it looks like the result of an orange after falling down from a high building
15:35 Jordach so wireless keyboard / mouse ftw
15:35 RealBadAngel hehehe
15:35 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, not like lava
15:35 Jordach PilzAdam, orange juice?
15:35 PilzAdam thats the short way to say it
15:36 * Jordach likes being to the point
15:36 Calinou So Dropbox Mailed Me This: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1269441/
15:36 Calinou no u
15:36 RealBadAngel but its not as bad
15:36 Calinou (btw, Prénom isn't even my first name, it is french for "First name")
15:36 RealBadAngel at least i hope so ;)
15:36 jin_xi thexyz: how can I merge your changes into my repo?
15:36 * Calinou uses 5.2% of his dropbox
15:36 Calinou sure, I need to upgrade, I'm running out of space already D:
15:36 * Jordach now knows Calinou is batman
15:37 Jordach we dont know his name :D
15:37 thexyz jin_xi: git remote add, i guess
15:38 * Calinou is surprised noone trolled about license change
15:38 * Jordach checks chromiums most viewed page; all pawn
15:38 jin_xi no github way?
15:38 thexyz github way means i need to create pull request
15:38 Calinou highfive for chromium
15:38 thexyz so, if you want to..
15:39 * Jordach trolled Calinou
15:39 Jordach >:D
15:39 thexyz oh, no
15:39 jin_xi ok, i'll try add remote, thanks
15:39 thexyz there is something called "pull queue"
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15:40 thexyz fork queue
15:40 Calinou and there's Queue LIVE
15:40 thexyz oh, it was removed
15:44 * Jordach wants borderlands 2
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15:45 OldCoder Servers going down
15:45 Jordach maria is using a hamachi
15:53 PilzAdam bucket 2.0: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/ac1fbd4b1b3833c89058b7080a0e030299f3e0ae
15:54 jin_xi thexyz: ok, your changes are in. i'll try a better round function which hopefully fixes the larger canvases.
15:54 thexyz great
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15:59 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, realbadangel.pl/default_lava_flowing_animated.png
15:59 RealBadAngel what bout this one?
16:00 PilzAdam still orange juice -> too low contrast
16:01 RealBadAngel reload
16:01 khonkhortisan Emtpy bucket 2.0: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/blob/ac1fbd4b1b3833c89058b7080a0e030299f3e0ae/mods/bucket/init.lua#L63
16:02 iqualfragile pilzadam: get c55 to merge stuffs back
16:02 PilzAdam im not god
16:03 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, and now?
16:03 PilzAdam fire?
16:03 RealBadAngel reload last link, adjusted it
16:03 iqualfragile vanessae: get c55 to merge stuffs back
16:03 RealBadAngel it looks quite nice ingame
16:04 Calinou khonkhortisan: haha
16:05 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, your 32px has good contrast between dark and red
16:05 RealBadAngel now its with better contrast
16:06 PilzAdam not realy
16:07 khonkhortisan added a pull request to minetest_game
16:07 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, Emtpy Bucket 2.0: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/dbc8f308bb21f35f0279cf565ad9620c18b6ed53
16:08 OldCoder
16:08 khonkhortisan I added the pt in Emtpy, you added the B in bucket
16:09 PilzAdam empty bucket 3.0: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/700973cc69bdcc466d35d918e0410254a4c320b6
16:09 OldCoder Servers restarted. Technic updated. I am now running 13 worlds. There is a new world at minetest.org port 30011 provided by envoyxiphos. He states this is a fork of the M13 world that he has been helping to build.
16:10 OldCoder Mika_R, RealBadAngel Europe world going down now for updates
16:10 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, try this one http://realbadangel.pl/lava1.zip
16:12 PilzAdam thats way better!
16:13 PilzAdam maybe a bit more yellow and a bit more animation for the source
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16:14 rubenwardy hi all
16:14 RealBadAngel hi
16:14 OldCoder rubenwardy, hello
16:14 PilzAdam with "a bit more yellow" i mean that there should be some yellow pixels
16:14 PilzAdam rubenwardy, hi
16:15 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, i will try
16:16 rubenwardy waz up?
16:17 RealBadAngel i think it look a bit better blurred
16:17 PilzAdam new lava textures
16:17 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, no
16:18 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/lava.png
16:18 RealBadAngel no?
16:18 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, use the default textures
16:18 PilzAdam you will see
16:19 PilzAdam (i mean for the env)
16:20 rubenwardy so many people are using my mod forum...
16:21 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Mika_R: Europe world restarted. New flowers, technic, player character. Other changes. Indicate if the world works please.
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16:22 RealBadAngel k, thx
16:25 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/default_lava_flowing_animated.png
16:25 RealBadAngel test this one
16:27 PilzAdam is there any difference?
16:27 RealBadAngel this one is new
16:27 RealBadAngel reload it
16:27 RealBadAngel higher contrast and added one effect
16:28 PilzAdam and source?
16:28 RealBadAngel hold on, have to make it
16:30 Mika_R new flowers?
16:30 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, maybe more contrast between yellow and red
16:31 RealBadAngel its not such easy now
16:31 PilzAdam i know
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16:38 PilzAdam bbl
16:39 NekoGloop But i just got here!
16:39 NekoGloop :D
16:45 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, so will you make that tool for water?
16:46 NekoGloop When i get around to it
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16:46 RealBadAngel im makin flashlight
16:46 RealBadAngel based on walkin_light
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17:05 PilzAdam back
17:06 khonkhortisan But NekoGloop just got here!
17:06 NekoGloop XD
17:06 PilzAdam hi NekoGloop
17:08 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, http://realbadangel.pl/lava2.zip
17:08 PilzAdam wait a sec.
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17:14 RealBadAngel holy shit, just put that texture together with filtering enabled
17:18 khonkhortisan I like ambience minus that one bird sound
17:18 RealBadAngel http://youtu.be/JvNP7LMSYO4
17:19 khonkhortisan cool, the lava is black!
17:19 OldCoder Are the locked sign and/or shops mods stable and lightweight?
17:19 khonkhortisan that's more realistic and would look better if it cooled into different types of rock
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17:21 OldCoder RealBadAngel, khonkhortisan, PilzAdam ^
17:21 RealBadAngel yes?
17:21 OldCoder Are the locked sign and/or shops mods stable and lightweight?
17:21 OldCoder I've been asked for them
17:22 RealBadAngel idk
17:22 khonkhortisan Redcrab's server has locked sign, that's all I really know about it.
17:22 OldCoder all right
17:22 OldCoder Any comment on shops?
17:22 khonkhortisan I haven't been to a mod-based shop yet
17:22 OldCoder All right; ty
17:23 khonkhortisan I'd trust signs before shops
17:23 OldCoder All right
17:24 PilzAdam <RealBadAngel> PilzAdam, http://realbadangel.pl/lava2.zip <- thats 32px
17:24 RealBadAngel ooops
17:24 RealBadAngel wait
17:25 RealBadAngel no, its not, its 16x
17:26 RealBadAngel reload
17:26 RealBadAngel damn, names messed up
17:26 PilzAdam yep
17:27 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/lava2_16x.zip
17:27 RealBadAngel seen the video?
17:27 PilzAdam yep
17:28 RealBadAngel it looks suprisingly good with those settings
17:28 PilzAdam im not very happy with the new ones
17:28 PilzAdam they look too orange
17:29 PilzAdam more contrast of yellow and red
17:29 NakedFury olcoder what did you mean by spaces in file names?
17:29 khonkhortisan I like the black bits
17:29 khonkhortisan on linux you have to type Cool\ Filename.txt
17:32 tripod http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=vkJ5ItzEq3M
17:32 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, realbadangel.pl/lava3_16x.zip
17:34 PilzAdam thats far away from lava
17:34 RealBadAngel you wanted more yellow
17:34 PilzAdam i know
17:35 Calinou or "Cool Filename.txt" with quotes
17:38 khonkhortisan tripod, is 120,000 the previous record?
17:38 tripod as far as i know
17:38 tripod 30 years ago this was done
17:38 tripod i dont think anyone has jumped from the stratosphere.
17:38 tripod unless his name is tripod
17:38 tripod and a baws.
17:38 tripod <--
17:39 tripod brb smoke
17:39 tripod #minetest needs mumble
17:39 tripod collaborative minds come together
17:39 tripod adn talk smack!
17:39 khonkhortisan everything needs mumble
17:40 tripod that's right
17:40 tripod every mumble needs an australian, with an austrailian accent
17:41 tripod <--
17:42 khonkhortisan there was a Pole here and I couldn't tell until they posted a tutorial video - Pole? Is that how you say it?
17:43 khonkhortisan Polak
17:43 PilzAdam tripod, canceled
17:43 NakedFury every mumble or teamspeak needs the following people: american, latin, english, australian, russian and a black dude(apologise if offends). all talking english of course
17:43 PilzAdam ^ german!
17:43 khonkhortisan don't forget sign language
17:44 NakedFury its not skype
17:44 khonkhortisan :)
17:44 FreeFull NakedFury: What about Polish
17:45 NakedFury sure. anything to add more heavy accents when you talk english
17:45 NakedFury the weirder it sounds the better
17:45 FreeFull Also, how do you tell the black dude apart from american/latin/english
17:45 NakedFury unless you are a polish that has a perfect pronunciation
17:45 khonkhortisan español
17:46 NakedFury how they talk
17:46 Calinou NakedFury: french 8D
17:46 khonkhortisan oriental
17:46 NakedFury at least for me it sounds heavy and hard to understand
17:46 Calinou someone should make a minetest-related mumble server
17:46 NakedFury uhhh frenchs are good too
17:46 Calinou with english and french rooms (there's a lot of french people around)
17:46 Calinou :D
17:46 Calinou and post on forum
17:46 OldCoder Calinou, what would the mumble server do?
17:46 khonkhortisan if someone makes one I'll figure out how to join
17:46 NakedFury you could go u lala
17:46 Calinou OldCoder: general discussion; let the people create channels
17:47 Calinou minetest-oriented :)
17:47 OldCoder How is that different from IRC?
17:47 Calinou mumble is voie
17:47 Calinou voice*
17:47 OldCoder Ah!
17:47 Calinou if anyone has spare bandwidth, please do
17:47 NakedFury its a voice chatroom
17:47 Calinou open source :) and windows/mac/linux
17:47 NakedFury usually they are used for team games that need coordination
17:47 NakedFury shooters
17:47 OldCoder mrtux requested  "shops" for his world. Whether or not I add it to the main set, is he talking about kotolegokot money mod?
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17:54 OldCoder RealBadAngel, still awake?
17:55 RealBadAngel yeah, fightin lava all the time
17:55 OldCoder RealBadAngel, one moment
17:55 RealBadAngel OldCoder, made another quick fix to technic
17:55 OldCoder Mika reports this:
17:55 OldCoder technic wool works, i guess there is a conflict between technic wool and vanessaE's dyes
17:56 OldCoder Is the fix related? Or can you talk to Mika and fix this issue?
17:56 OldCoder I will update immediately if you do
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17:57 Calinou NakedFury: minetest can need coordination sometimes :)
17:57 NakedFury I know, I was just giving examples
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18:02 sfan5[iPod] hi
18:03 PilzAdam hi
18:03 NakedFury hi
18:07 khonkhortisan hi
18:07 OldCoder high?
18:08 PilzAdam low?
18:08 NakedFury higher
18:08 OldCoder 'lo
18:09 NakedFury wer
18:12 khonkhortisan 'ello
18:12 NakedFury really? is this what conversation in the channel turned to? hi, high and ello?
18:13 khonkhortisan it's gone longer than most hi loops go
18:14 PilzAdam gtg
18:14 PilzAdam bye
18:16 khonkhortisan if there was an allow_formspec function what arguments would it give? pos and player?
18:20 RealBadAngel damn
18:20 RealBadAngel i just prepared 6 versions of lava and he left
18:20 RealBadAngel who want to check my last one?
18:21 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/lava/all6.zip
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18:21 RealBadAngel i think theyre quite nice now
18:22 OldCoder RealBadAngel, how would they be installed? And can you comment on the wool conflict?
18:22 RealBadAngel those are replacements for default 16x textures
18:22 OldCoder I just drop them in?
18:22 RealBadAngel should go into /textures/all folder
18:22 RealBadAngel all folder is in zip already
18:23 OldCoder I just drop them in?
18:23 RealBadAngel yeah and restart game
18:23 OldCoder Is one of them a bit fuzzy?
18:23 OldCoder Source as opposed to Flowing?
18:23 RealBadAngel im makin now video with it
18:24 OldCoder Is it supposed to be a bit fuzzy?
18:24 khonkhortisan what do I do to get homedecor's oven to make fire on top?
18:24 RealBadAngel a little bit
18:24 OldCoder RealBadAngel, all right
18:24 RealBadAngel what about wool conflict?
18:24 OldCoder RealBadAngel, when done with video, Mika is curious about the possible Technic Wool conflict
18:24 OldCoder This:
18:24 OldCoder <Mika_R> he has to make new recipes, cause when i melt violas i should get violet pigment instead there is technics blue dye
18:24 RealBadAngel you mean dyes propably
18:24 OldCoder <Mika_R> i don't understand why technic has an wool part when there is other wool, and then the recipes are about the same
18:25 OldCoder <Mika_R> technic wool works, i guess there is a conflict between technic wool and vanessaE's dyes
18:25 OldCoder
18:25 OldCoder That covers it
18:25 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I'll use the lava if you think it's ready
18:25 RealBadAngel ok i will delete dye part from mod to avoid conflict
18:26 OldCoder RealBadAngel, out of curiosity is there a way for the two types of wool to coexist?
18:26 RealBadAngel its not about wool, its about dyes
18:26 OldCoder All right
18:27 RealBadAngel done changes, you can update technic
18:27 OldCoder RealBadAngel, One more question. Should the two lava strips be different sizes?
18:27 OldCoder And is it all6 that I should use?
18:27 RealBadAngel those are animations, source doesnt need so much frames
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18:28 OldCoder RealBadAngel, k
18:28 bulletrulz hi OldCoder
18:28 OldCoder bulletrulz, I have the Fedora program for you
18:28 OldCoder You can try it in a few minutes
18:28 RealBadAngel yeah, just put those files into /textures/all
18:28 bulletrulz OldCoder, well
18:28 OldCoder Just updating the worlds now
18:28 OldCoder bulletrulz, ?
18:28 bulletrulz fedora umm screwed up its install
18:28 OldCoder Oh?
18:28 OldCoder What is the status of your PC?
18:28 bulletrulz so i installed SolusOS
18:29 OldCoder O.K.
18:29 OldCoder Would you like me to build a client for that?
18:29 bulletrulz cause sdzen
18:29 bulletrulz said it was good
18:29 bulletrulz wow OldCoder u would?
18:29 OldCoder Did it work out?
18:29 OldCoder Maybe
18:29 OldCoder Let me finish this other stuff first
18:29 OldCoder bulletrulz, Post a link to the ISO please
18:30 Calinou lol
18:30 Calinou solus os, seriously
18:30 bulletrulz OldCoder, but post the fedora one on the forums and solusos is debian based
18:30 bulletrulz Calinou, yeah its pretty good
18:30 OldCoder bulletrulz, I need somebody to test the Fedora one. It will need some changes.
18:30 OldCoder bulletrulz, Post a link to the SolusOS ISO you used
18:30 bulletrulz OldCoder, k
18:31 * Jordach feels very sick
18:31 Calinou sucks :p
18:31 bulletrulz OldCoder, http://mirror2.layerjet.com/solusos/images/SolusOS-x86-1-2.iso
18:31 OldCoder k
18:32 bulletrulz OldCoder, I brb like 20 min got to go somewhere
18:32 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Technical pulled and will appear in U.S. and Europe shortly
18:32 OldCoder A few minutes
18:32 Calinou I don't see Technical above me
18:32 Calinou so it is not in europe
18:32 OldCoder ?
18:32 OldCoder Ah
18:32 OldCoder Technic
18:32 Calinou :p
18:33 OldCoder Not Technical. Excuse me
18:33 khonkhortisan VanessaE, this is how well I cook: http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/8071573683/in/photostream/lightbox/
18:33 Calinou cooking sauerbraten much?
18:33 Calinou gtg, dinner :P
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18:34 OldCoder anunakki, wb
18:37 OldCoder Worlds going down
18:38 * Jordach has pain over over his own body
18:38 OldCoder Worlds back up. Updated Technic. Added Locked Signs. Added RBA Lava. Jordach sorry to hear it.
18:41 OldCoder Mika_R, RealBadAngel: Anunakki Land going down
18:42 RealBadAngel ok
18:42 Mika_R ok
18:42 Mika_R i started to wonder why the dirt didn't accept my seeds
18:42 RealBadAngel use the hoe
18:42 RealBadAngel then place the seed
18:43 Mika_R its done, but if server was shutting down it explains
18:43 OldCoder Not until I said
18:43 RealBadAngel aaah
18:44 OldCoder Mika_R, RealBadAngel: All worlds including Anunakki Land restarted with Wool Fix and RBA Lava. Try them out.
18:50 RealBadAngel uploaded vid with lava
18:50 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAh2yxSxGUs&amp;feature=youtu.be
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18:57 rubenwardy PilzAdam, i have done the user list: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/user.php
18:59 RealBadAngel hes gone
18:59 rubenwardy oh well
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19:07 bulletrulz back
19:08 bulletrulz OldCoder, u here\
19:08 OldCoder yes
19:09 bulletrulz OldCoder, u dl the iso?
19:09 OldCoder Downloaded the ISO yes
19:09 OldCoder Will start new build shortly
19:09 bulletrulz ok
19:11 RealBadAngel OldCoder, seen the vid?
19:11 rubenwardy bye
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19:11 OldCoder RealBadAngel, No
19:11 OldCoder But link
19:11 OldCoder again
19:11 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAh2yxSxGUs&amp;feature=youtu.be
19:11 OldCoder k
19:12 bulletrulz hi RealBadAngel
19:12 OldCoder RealBadAngel, that does look nice
19:12 RealBadAngel hi
19:12 RealBadAngel it took me a few hrs today
19:12 OldCoder Well it's in there now
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19:26 envoyxiphos Hello.
19:29 OldCoder envoyxiphos, Hello
19:29 envoyxiphos Oh Hey!!!
19:29 envoyxiphos The Movie was great. xD
19:29 OldCoder Glad to hear it
19:30 envoyxiphos Yeah. ^^
19:30 envoyxiphos Just got home from school.
19:30 OldCoder k
19:31 envoyxiphos Im logging on the M13 server atm.
19:31 OldCoder The old or new one?
19:31 envoyxiphos New one.
19:31 envoyxiphos Seeing if he is on.
19:32 OldCoder envoyxiphos, PM
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19:37 NakedFury working on my desert base
19:41 bulletrulz envoyxiphos, u got linux now/
19:44 NakedFury we need to come up with aore generation code that makes it so each "vein or pocket" of ores has a radius or perimeter where no other ore can generate
19:45 khonkhortisan why?
19:45 envoyxiphos No i do not it wasnt very good in performance.
19:46 bulletrulz OH
19:46 NakedFury so we dont have coal+iron+other ore all generated together. this can stop what some call the rainbow cave phenomenon
19:47 bulletrulz En that was cause u were on live cd
19:48 bulletrulz it simpossivke for windows to be faster
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19:54 bulletrulz envoyxiphos,
19:55 envoyxiphos yes?
19:55 bulletrulz En that was cause u were on live cd
19:55 bulletrulz En that was cause u were on live cd
19:55 bulletrulz envoyxiphos,
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19:55 bulletrulz wubdiws cannot be fasrer impossibke
19:56 sdzen wubdiws?
19:56 sdzen windows?
19:57 sdzen windows can be faster
19:57 sdzen just a matter of the proper tweaking
19:57 thexyz yep, tweaking...
19:57 thexyz the best tweak i know is to remove windows and install some os
19:58 sdzen yes it is
19:58 thexyz http://www.debian.org/distrib/
19:58 sdzen registery editing works too
19:58 T_A_N_K Today i will restart my server
19:58 khonkhortisan "Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, olny taht the frist and lsat ltteres are at the rghit pcleas. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed ervey lteter by ilstef, but the wrod as a wlohe."
19:58 khonkhortisan found that on a juice bottle
19:58 sdzen wow
19:59 sdzen and i just read that perfectly
19:59 khonkhortisan some people can't
19:59 sdzen deleting system 32 helps
20:00 khonkhortisan I think I have more than one, due to playonlinux
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20:05 Uberi cornernote: just wondering, what happened to the minetest-api project?
20:07 thexyz http://api.minetest.net/
20:07 Uberi whoa, neat
20:07 khonkhortisan you can only comment, not edit
20:08 Uberi it's on the real site now? did celeron55 come back?
20:08 khonkhortisan also to cornernote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psCJHV2EOJ4&amp;feature=plcp
20:12 NakedFury the geothermal generator work with either lava or water?
20:13 Jordach sdzen
20:14 * Jordach is heading off to bed...if i get out of school,see ya at 8:00am
20:14 Jordach night all
20:14 Uberi bye
20:15 Uberi cornernote: is there some way of cloning it like the GH repo? or is there a GH repo behind it?
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20:17 khonkhortisan There IS a way of cloning a website, the method even comes with the hacker os "BackTrack".
20:18 Uberi I don't mean like with WinHTTPTrack
20:18 Uberi I meant the Markdown source files :)
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20:18 Uberi like with the GitHub wiki that was up until today, I think
20:18 khonkhortisan oh yeah, I forgot markdown was for websites
20:20 OldCoder khonkhortisan> There IS a way of cloning a website, the method even comes with the hacker os "BackTrack".
20:20 RealBadAngel i was playin a bit more with that lava
20:20 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/lava/all7.zip
20:20 khonkhortisan Yes?
20:20 OldCoder Actually for static wget -c -r is fine
20:20 RealBadAngel heres new version :)
20:20 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Updating
20:20 RealBadAngel this one i think is final
20:20 OldCoder RealBadAngel, It is fine
20:20 OldCoder As many as you like
20:21 khonkhortisan I never tried it, I just knew it could be done.
20:21 RealBadAngel take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p35e3ZCdDVU&amp;feature=youtu.be
20:22 RealBadAngel made some comparision for water and lava
20:22 OldCoder Reviewing. Added. Will appear on next restarts.
20:26 T_A_N_K we need setplayer velocity, set player acceleration
20:26 NakedFury RBA will you eventually do the mining stuff of technic?
20:29 RealBadAngel NakedFury, what mining stuff do you mean?
20:30 NakedFury one moment
20:31 NakedFury well in minecraft after setting a power stuff you connected them to a block that when activated started mining an area and using the tubes to pass the mined things to chests or some place else
20:31 NakedFury cant find the names
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20:32 RealBadAngel i know what you mean. the quarry from buildcraft i think
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20:35 RealBadAngel but i rather was thinkin bout somethin like this:
20:35 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_XbgSKKhBI
20:35 RealBadAngel mesecons controlled node breakers
20:37 Uberi whoa
20:39 khonkhortisan the chest in that video can't be made in minetest
20:39 Uberi the one near the player?
20:39 khonkhortisan look at 1:45
20:39 khonkhortisan nodeboxes can't be rotated
20:40 Uberi they can, khonkhortisan
20:40 khonkhortisan ?
20:40 Uberi how do you think piston pushers are rotated?
20:40 Uberi it uses facedir and param2
20:41 khonkhortisan that's facedir/wallmounted. Minetest doesn't even have xyz rotation in 90° increments
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20:41 khonkhortisan That chest has smooth rotation when it's opened
20:41 Uberi khonkhortisan: oh I thought you meant the chest as a whole
20:42 Uberi yeah I'd like a way to set angular velocity and rotation
20:42 khonkhortisan I should release the rubik's cube mod to show how difficult it is to fake xyz rotation
20:42 Uberi you faked xyz rotation? how?
20:44 khonkhortisan One node has all six colors on the faces. I register that one. Then I rotate the textures along the x axis and register a second node. Then I rotate the textures along the z axis and register a third node, until I have six nodes.
20:44 khonkhortisan Then when I want to rotate one, I figure out which texture will be on top to get the node I want, then change the facedir until the side texture matches.
20:45 NakedFury RBA yes! multiple YESes!
20:45 Uberi that is pretty neat
20:45 NakedFury I have seen several insane redpower structures
20:45 khonkhortisan So I have a node/facedir for loop and don't know for sure that it will return a match (though currently it does)
20:45 Uberi NakedFury: ever see those insane ComputerCraft structures? :P
20:46 Uberi an internet browser, really now, that would break immersion somewhat
20:46 NakedFury not computercraft but some insane mining operations made with redpower that use the computer script in that mod
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20:56 envoyxiphos LAD get on my server
20:56 LAD joined #minetest
20:56 envoyxiphos Hey lad
20:56 envoyxiphos Get on skype.
20:56 LAD srry cant talk
20:57 envoyxiphos y?
20:57 LAD realy busy
20:57 envoyxiphos can you get on my server?
20:57 LAD no
20:57 envoyxiphos Why?
20:57 LAD realy busy
20:57 LAD came on here to ask a qestion
20:57 envoyxiphos what is it?
20:58 LAD a thing cant tell realy privet
20:58 Uberi LAD: in that case, your answer is 42
20:58 bulletrulz envoyxiphos, ok are u sure lm 13 mate had pore preformance
20:58 LAD 42
20:58 Uberi correct
20:59 LAD ????
20:59 Uberi ?????
20:59 khonkhortisan 42: The answer to life, the universe, and everything!
20:59 khonkhortisan But what is the question?
20:59 OldCoder That is the question
20:59 Uberi How many roads must a man walk down?
20:59 OldCoder What question to ask
20:59 OldCoder Before...
20:59 OldCoder Heh
21:00 envoyxiphos According to "The HitchHiker's Guide To The Universe)
21:00 bulletrulz khonkhortisan, what would u do for a kuandike bar is the qeastion
21:00 envoyxiphos Klondike Bar*
21:00 khonkhortisan You must ask the right questions
21:00 khonkhortisan whoops
21:00 bulletrulz envoyxiphos, r u sure it had bad performance??
21:00 khonkhortisan "My responses are limited... You must ask the right question"
21:01 khonkhortisan my mouse didn't copy right
21:02 khonkhortisan If only there was a way to encode binary data in forum posts so the pictures would be stuck there
21:02 Uberi do data:// schema URLs work?
21:03 NakedFury what mod has the stone slabs+ thingy? I need to know how to make vertical slabs un a L manner
21:04 Uberi you mean stairs?
21:04 bulletrulz is it possible to install minetest on solusOS
21:05 khonkhortisan I want to end my sentence with three squared, but if I write "3³." the period is too far away and if I write "3.³
21:05 NakedFury there are stairs but there are also sort of fence style slabs. 1/4 of a block posts. mega thin slabs
21:05 Uberi khonkhortisan: 3^2?
21:05 NakedFury what is that mod name?
21:05 khonkhortisan *three cubed | ... the cubed is out of the sentence
21:05 * khonkhortisan pressed enter prematurely
21:05 khonkhortisan stairsplus
21:06 khonkhortisan I think you're looking for the half stair?
21:06 NakedFury stairsplus mod by calinou
21:06 NakedFury god he needs to do recipes with screenshots
21:07 khonkhortisan yeah, I got the miniblock confused with trapgrass
21:08 NakedFury im working with panels
21:08 NakedFury but I need a panel that goes in a L shape
21:08 NakedFury cant find the way to do it
21:09 T_A_N_K my minetest server is back up
21:09 T_A_N_K help me test it, here are the 4 hamachi servers http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=AJZBmUMG
21:09 T_A_N_K brb
21:09 khonkhortisan there are 1/2 width L's but not 1/4th width L's.
21:09 Uberi oh man I was reminding myself to uninstall hamachi for the past week
21:10 khonkhortisan I haven't gotten hamachi running yet
21:10 NakedFury I got it khonkortisan. it was a stair then placing two next to each other in the craft grid
21:11 bulletrulz trying to install mietest on solusOS
21:11 bulletrulz and here is what i get
21:12 bulletrulz Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libstdc++6 (>= 4.5
21:12 khonkhortisan try crafting a stick on the material, then put that on a panel. That's how you get half stairs.
21:15 NakedFury now I need to make more technic stations and plug them to my geothermal generator
21:21 Uberi bulletrulz: building from source?
21:23 khonkhortisan I'd recommend not changing libstdc++
21:23 OldCoder bulletrulz, I am building it
21:26 bulletrulz OldCoder, ok
21:27 OldCoder bulletrulz, May take a couple of days this time
21:27 OldCoder I'd like to get it right
21:28 bulletrulz OldCoder, k
21:29 khonkhortisan Do you ever type something in irc before you actually want to send it and just leave it there?
21:29 OldCoder khonkhortisan, not sure I understand
21:29 Uberi occasionally, yeah
21:30 khonkhortisan The place where I typed this, but without pressing enter
21:30 khonkhortisan Where you want to say something but it's not the time to say it yet
21:30 khonkhortisan Like if you're about to release a mod: /me just released his second mod
21:31 khonkhortisan I wouldn't press enter because I haven't pressed submit on the forum yet
21:41 khonkhortisan http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=46854#p46854 just functional enough to release
21:44 Uberi nice one, khonkhortisan
21:44 khonkhortisan the features list makes it seem much less impressive :P
21:45 khonkhortisan Are tags for version numbers?
21:46 Uberi yep, or milestones
21:46 Uberi I prefer full tags for those, and light tags for milestones
21:47 khonkhortisan my repo is small enough that I don't have to separate my versions from my milestones
21:48 khonkhortisan I think
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22:15 NakedFury clay is found in the world right? it doesnt have anything to do with gravel like in skyblocks?
22:15 khonkhortisan normally they're separate
22:16 khonkhortisan you'll find clay in shallow water near sand
22:16 khonkhortisan and gravel near caves
22:18 NakedFury lucky, found clay near my base
22:22 khonkhortisan the trick is to recognize it
22:22 khonkhortisan I had a house built out of everything I could find but not clay
22:28 FreeFull Clay is grey
22:29 FreeFull But a different grey from stone
22:30 khonkhortisan light gray
22:31 FreeFull It usually is found where there isn't stone visible anyway
22:34 NakedFury my clay is red
22:35 khonkhortisan desert clay?
22:35 NakedFury no, its just redish
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22:37 bulletrulz hmmm
22:37 khonkhortisan hmmm is not here
22:38 khonkhortisan hmmmm is though
22:42 bulletrulz ik i was thinking i kinda wanna play minetest but i dont know how hmmm
22:42 khonkhortisan then you need the craft_guide mod
22:43 khonkhortisan http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2334
22:44 bulletrulz khonkhortisan, no no im an orignal player first 100 i have a dependicie probllem when trying to install
22:44 khonkhortisan :)
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22:44 khonkhortisan I think I'm pre-3,000
22:45 khonkhortisan I didn't install after compile, I just use run-in-place
22:45 bulletrulz khonkhortisan, SO ur new but not all new
22:45 khonkhortisan yeah
22:45 bulletrulz khonkhortisan, not compiling
22:45 bulletrulz just dled the .deb from the site im lazy
22:46 bulletrulz but i get the dependicie error
22:46 bulletrulz Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libstdc++6 (>= 4.5)
22:47 khonkhortisan Huh. The fedora download link gives me an untrusted connection warning.
22:48 bulletrulz fedora dl link?
22:48 bulletrulz theres a fedora dl link oh by OldCoder
22:48 OldCoder Hi!
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22:48 OldCoder The Fedora version has a couple of quirks
22:48 OldCoder I'll take care of them if somebody will help me test
22:48 khonkhortisan "Get me out of here!"
22:48 OldCoder ?
22:48 OldCoder Oh!
22:48 OldCoder Yes
22:49 bulletrulz OldCoder, im fucked
22:49 OldCoder How so?
22:49 OldCoder bulletrulz, ^
22:49 khonkhortisan apparently community.dev.fedoraproject.org isn't included in *.fedoraproject.org
22:49 bulletrulz minetest needs libstdc++6 but debian has 6.0
22:49 OldCoder bulletrulz, It is fine
22:50 OldCoder bulletrulz, I am making you a client
22:50 OldCoder bulletrulz, This time it may take a day or two
22:50 bulletrulz OldCoder, really?? ^_^
22:50 bulletrulz oh ok
22:50 OldCoder I installed the OS
22:50 OldCoder Right now
22:50 OldCoder Two people have lost their forums
22:50 OldCoder I am repairing the crashes
22:51 OldCoder Somebody else needs help with a proxy
22:51 OldCoder You are in line after that
22:51 bulletrulz OhK
22:52 * VanessaE peeks in
22:52 * iqualfragile pokes her
22:52 khonkhortisan VanessaE, this is my cooking skills: http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/8071573683/in/photostream/lightbox/
22:52 VanessaE I saw :)
22:52 khonkhortisan oh.
22:53 khonkhortisan You're quiet
22:53 khonkhortisan :P
22:53 VanessaE I wasn't here earlier :-)
22:54 bulletrulz hi VanessaE
22:54 VanessaE hi
22:54 Uberi don't you hate it when that happens khonkhortisan
22:54 VanessaE OldCoder: what is the name of the mod you use on your servers for node protection?
22:54 Uberi always forget that coal doesn't go in the oven
22:54 VanessaE the one that provides those silver-green blocks
22:54 VanessaE Uberi: actually, it does - those ovens are fully functional :-)
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22:55 bulletrulz well bye guys ttyl
22:56 khonkhortisan it doesn't do that on its own - afaik
22:56 VanessaE eh?
22:56 khonkhortisan the burners don't generate fire
22:57 VanessaE nope, they're purely decorative :-)
23:00 khonkhortisan Is there a way to catch right-click yet?
23:00 VanessaE nope
23:00 khonkhortisan :(
23:00 Uberi unless you add a hook to every single tool and item in the game
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23:01 Uberi but really now that's not very practical
23:08 NakedFury yeah got my electric furnace
23:08 NakedFury Furnace, Electric Furnace, Battery Box, Grinder, Alloy Furnace. All connected to a geothermal plant
23:11 OldCoder VanessaE, go to http://minetest.org/
23:11 OldCoder First line goes to the page
23:11 OldCoder That has all the mod lists
23:11 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
23:11 VanessaE glomie protector
23:12 OldCoder protector
23:12 OldCoder Yes
23:12 OldCoder glomie
23:12 VanessaE ok
23:12 VanessaE bingo
23:12 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2793
23:15 VanessaE ok, got the code in front of me.  I need to add support for this mod to homedecor so doors can't be placed in protected areas.
23:16 VanessaE (I fixed it for node_ownership last night and now I need to cover this one also.
23:16 VanessaE OldCoder: any objection to using one of your servers as a guinea pig later? ;-)
23:19 khonkhortisan c++ is less legible than lua
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23:21 doesnotmatter good evening
23:21 VanessaE hi
23:22 doesnotmatter VanessaE: :)
23:22 doesnotmatter just came here to tell you ppl to keep up with the good work, this is a great project
23:22 OldCoder Hi
23:22 OldCoder VanessaE, No objections at all
23:22 VanessaE we will :-)
23:22 doesnotmatter :)
23:22 OldCoder I will be away for 2 to 3 hours shortly
23:22 VanessaE OldCoder: ok, I will begin working on that later.
23:22 OldCoder k
23:23 VanessaE you will need to be on hand to clean up my mess when I'm done :-)
23:25 khonkhortisan what are Object Properties? It has both on_dig and on_rightclick
23:26 VanessaE dunno'
23:26 khonkhortisan wait, nevermind. Read that wrong
23:26 VanessaE on_rightclick is probably to pop up a formspec, e.g. a chest
23:26 Uberi override every on_rightclick for every item in the game :)
23:26 khonkhortisan I could make a gui with a single button in it
23:27 khonkhortisan items don't have rightclick
23:27 Uberi oh never mind then
23:28 khonkhortisan If I call my own on_receive_fields will the gui go away?
23:29 VanessaE bbl
23:32 NakedFury ok im finally technicated
23:33 OldCoder Technicated
23:33 Uberi I like that, "technicated"
23:33 OldCoder good word
23:33 OldCoder What does it mean?
23:33 NakedFury yeah. got all the needed stations. 2 energy generators and wires going on
23:33 OldCoder Ah
23:35 NakedFury and I made a fake desert wall to cover my HQ from the public eye
23:37 khonkhortisan you can always hide a ladder under a ttree
23:38 Uberi with pistons!
23:38 NakedFury there are no trees in a desert, only cactuses
23:38 NakedFury evil cactus
23:38 khonkhortisan if you cover the tunnel in with cactus no one will want to go in
23:39 NakedFury cover the base with locked chests which are covered with a terrain block
23:39 NakedFury only I can enter
23:39 Uberi good idea
23:41 NakedFury next step is a pyramid
23:41 khonkhortisan locked chests only need one thing in them
23:41 khonkhortisan but they aren't easily stackable
23:42 NakedFury it would be a nightmare to do a base like that
23:43 NakedFury but on the plus side you have lots and lots of storage spae
23:43 khonkhortisan it could be done, just have to surround it in something else
23:43 NakedFury space
23:43 khonkhortisan and you have little living space
23:43 NakedFury idea:     base area|lockedchests|dirt and stone making a mountain
23:43 khonkhortisan how would you put any furniture in?! it would be a major renovation just to place one thing inside
23:44 NakedFury make the base first THEN place the chests
23:44 khonkhortisan then place a chair on the chest?
23:45 khonkhortisan dig two chests, place dirt, place chair, replace dirt with chest, place chest on outside dirt
23:45 khonkhortisan I think the fridge should craft into fridges with different styles of doors
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23:55 khonkhortisan lua api says button[<X>,<Y>;<W>,<H>;<name>;<label>] so I did button[0,0;10,10;button1;Click Me!] but it says 16:55:21: ERROR[main]: WARNING: invalid use of button without a size[] element
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23:56 iqualfragile yeah, there is a difference between ; and .
23:57 iqualfragile * between ; and ,
23:57 khonkhortisan I think I got that part right
23:57 khonkhortisan [ , ; , ; ; ]
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23:58 iqualfragile yeah, but try replacing the , seperated parts by a set
23:58 RealBadAngel button[6,4;1,2;stop;Stop]
23:58 RealBadAngel thats a workin example
23:59 RealBadAngel maybe that space
23:59 RealBadAngel tried with ' '?
23:59 iqualfragile maybee the error is outside of that specific declaration

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