IRC log for #minetest-mods, 2012-07-13

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17:47	jordach	anyone has a fix: http://codepad.org/hrjDkQRz
17:49	VanessaE	run the code in minetest and see what happens
17:50	jordach	fails the function
17:51	jordach	have you seen the stairs function? its identical
17:52	jordach	i need mark right now...anbd hes not here
17:52	VanessaE	seems like you're overthinking it
17:52	jordach	well
17:53	VanessaE	get rid of the second function entirely.
17:53	jordach	okay
17:53	VanessaE	just call the first function
17:53	VanessaE	sp, delete lines 34, 35 and 41
17:54	VanessaE	also fix your indentation on line 31 (add one tab)
17:57	VanessaE	also,
17:57	VanessaE	you're passing five parameters to the cotton.register_block function, but you only allowed four.
17:58	jordach	huh
17:58	VanessaE	(name, recipe_a, recipe_b, description) ... where's the texture?
17:58	VanessaE	try this on line 24: function cotton.register_block(name, recipe_a, recipe_b, description, texture)
17:58	VanessaE	and line 27: tiles = texture,
18:00	* VanessaE	waits...
18:03	jordach	19:02:36: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from
18:03	jordach	19:02:36: ERROR[main]: /home/jordan/Desktop/latest git/bin/../games/minimal/mods/cotton/init.lua:
18:03	jordach	19:02:36: ERROR[main]: ...latest git/bin/../games/minimal/mods/cotton/init.lua:24: attempt to index global 'cotton' (a nil value)
18:03	jordach	19:02:36: ERROR[main]: stack traceback:
18:03	jordach	19:02:36: ERROR[main]: ...latest git/bin/../games/minimal/mods/cotton/init.lua:24: in main chunk
18:03	jordach	with http://codepad.org/z50TGxfj
18:04	jordach	no idea
18:04	VanessaE	so get rid of the cotton. in front of the function and function calls
18:04	VanessaE	it's redundant anyway
18:04	VanessaE	make it register_cotton_block
18:06	jordach	thank you
18:06	jordach	it works
18:06	jordach	just register_block works
18:07	VanessaE	excellent.
18:07	jordach	so thank you
18:07	jordach	now, i need to implement shapeless recipes
18:07	jordach	using the two items defined
18:07	VanessaE	"the more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain."
18:07	VanessaE	that's easy
18:08	* jordach	get off yer soapbox vanessa
18:08	VanessaE	look at unifieddyes code, that's how I define everything
18:08	VanessaE	shapeless recipes derived from the base colors.
18:09	jordach	okidokey
18:12	jordach	hm
18:12	jordach	problem
18:12	jordach	crafts will have to be by hand
18:12	jordach	i cant use a function
18:13	VanessaE	use a loop.
18:14	VanessaE	for i = 1, 12 do
18:14	VanessaE	hue = HUES[i]
18:14	VanessaE	minetest.register_craft( {
18:14	VanessaE	type = "shapeless",
18:14	VanessaE	output = "unifieddyes:dark_" .. hue .. "_s50 2",
18:14	VanessaE	recipe = {
18:14	VanessaE	blah blah blah },
18:14	VanessaE	})
18:14	VanessaE	where HUES is a table containing the 12 base colors
18:16	VanessaE	in my case there are 8 register_craft calls within the loop, one for each of the variants.
18:16	jordach	erm, is it possible to chop the output
18:16	VanessaE	chop it?
18:16	jordach	because all my nodenames will reflect the dyes
18:16	jordach	such as lightgrey
18:17	VanessaE	look at my code
18:17	VanessaE	all of the item names are derived piecemeal
18:18	jordach	but how
18:18	jordach	I NEED THE name from the dye to GO INTO THE NODE NAME
18:18	VanessaE	yeah?
18:18	VanessaE	look at the above
18:18	jordach	thats why i need to chop it
18:18	VanessaE	minetest.register_craftitem("unifieddyes:medium_" .. hue .. "_s50", {
18:18	VanessaE	canot register_node do the same thing?
18:19	jordach	but how would this WORK WITH: cotton:
18:19	VanessaE	the same way, just build the names up from pieces.
18:19	jordach	you will exploade my head in a sec
18:20	VanessaE	minetest.register_node ("cotton:dark_" .. hue .. "_s50",
18:20	VanessaE	tiles = "cotton:dark_" .. hue .. "_s50.png",
18:20	VanessaE	and so on.
18:20	VanessaE	(using "hue" as the index in this case, you get the idea)
18:20	jordach	VanessaE, would a function variable go straight into "recipe_a" like so
18:21	VanessaE	it should - just TRY it. :-)
18:21	jordach	no wait
18:21	jordach	my problem is ME
18:21	VanessaE	facepalm
18:21	jordach	fuck you left hemisphere
18:21	VanessaE	you suck. :-)
18:21	jordach	i was thinking a different texture name space
18:22	jordach	okay, now i just realize that im stupid when mirroring ideas
18:22	jordach	FUCK FUCK FUCK
18:22	jordach	but
18:23	jordach	how would the light textures work, then we are fucked
18:23	VanessaE	light textures are defined explicitly
18:23	jordach	from where, codepad it
18:23	VanessaE	with normal register_craftitem/register_craft calls outside the loop
18:23	VanessaE	then the loop uses THOSE to define the rest
18:23	VanessaE	read. the. code.
18:23	VanessaE	:-)
18:24	VanessaE	it's all there ;-)
18:24	jordach	but, {"cotton:dark" .. hue .. "_s50", throws me
18:24	VanessaE	what?
18:24	VanessaE	that's just how it works :-)
18:24	VanessaE	the ".." concatenates stuff
18:25	jordach	because of " cotton:dark " it specifies it WILL be DARK
18:25	VanessaE	so you're saying "cotton:dark_" plus the string in "hue" plus the phrase "_s50"
18:25	jordach	nonononono
18:25	VanessaE	where hue is the index of your loop reading through that table I mentioned
18:25	jordach	what if I WANT A LIGHT colour, and cotton:dark was there
18:25	VanessaE	um
18:25	jordach	see
18:25	VanessaE	add another register_node without the "dark_" part? :-)
18:25	VanessaE	like I did. :-)
18:25	jordach	but, they RUN ON THE SAME BIT
18:26	jordach	how can you
18:26	jordach	you might wanna just add the crafting
18:26	jordach	ive already blown my hemispheres
18:26	VanessaE	inmy code, I define each class of colors separately.
18:26	VanessaE	ine register_craft for dark, one for medium, one for dark s50, one for medium s50, etc.
18:27	VanessaE	ine->one
18:27	jordach	what?
18:27	VanessaE	you can put them all in the same loop, one after another
18:27	jordach	just read through it
18:27	jordach	makes no sense
18:28	jordach	im trying to walk on water, when i can only crawl
18:28	jordach	but in understand how to do it
18:28	VanessaE	read the code again :-)
18:28	VanessaE	let it soak in for a bit
18:28	jordach	two words:
18:28	jordach	you bitch
18:28	VanessaE	then all of a sudden you'll be like FUCKING DUH!
18:28	VanessaE	;-)
18:28	* jordach	starts crying in the cornet
18:28	jordach	corner*
18:29	VanessaE	all of a sudden it'll dawn on you - OH THAT's why she did that, that makes total sense!
18:29	jordach	im going to nick all the code and redo it as cotton
18:29	jordach	this is fucking annoying me
18:31	jordach	VanessaE, crafting......i giveup
18:31	VanessaE	heh
18:31	jordach	thats yours
18:32	jordach	for how much there is, zbslfhwsdiofpverpogqep
18:33	jordach	SHUT UP AND TAKE MY CODE http://codepad.org/UemKBmFJ
18:33	jordach	i give the crafting to you
18:33	VanessaE	heh
18:33	jordach	im trying to reduce line clutter
18:34	VanessaE	output = "cotton:" .. ,
18:34	VanessaE	cotton-what? ;-)
18:35	jordach	as a general
18:35	VanessaE	so add 7 more register_craft calls
18:35	jordach	so then using something, we can add dark, light depending on the item
18:35	VanessaE	customize each one for dark, medium, bright, dark s50, medium s50, bright s50
18:36	VanessaE	er, 7 -> 5.
18:36	VanessaE	use a loop to iterate through all 12 hues
18:39	* VanessaE	considers writing the damn thing... ;-)
18:44	jordach	well, you clearly understand the code, just write it, (oh, btw, im on xubuntu atm, i can use your bash)
18:48	VanessaE	Busy </>
18:48	jordach	alright
18:48	VanessaE	Busy <->
18:48	VanessaE	Busy <\>
18:48	jordach	three times, was there a need?
18:48	VanessaE	to show the animated cursor ;-)
18:48	jordach	ikr
18:49	jordach	or you have a really slow pc
18:49	VanessaE	no, it's a quite quick PC... just a slow brain
18:49	jordach	btw, listcolours.sh wont work
18:49	jordach	running as executable
18:49	jordach	just says file / directory not found
18:50	VanessaE	you have to cd into the unifieddyes directory first
18:50	VanessaE	./listcolors.sh
18:50	VanessaE	it's a commandline app.
18:51	jordach	>:C
18:52	jordach	better
18:58	VanessaE	working on an autogenerator script. Got the 12 base colors from a single red texture, now for the variants.
19:09	VanessaE	generating......
19:11	jordach	lol
19:11	VanessaE	done
19:11	jordach	does it make the textures?
19:11	VanessaE	yes
19:11	jordach	:O
19:11	VanessaE	ok, here's the situation.
19:11	VanessaE	you make a single texture, BRIGHT RED, must be damn close to 100% saturation on average, but as textured as you want
19:12	VanessaE	name it red_base_wool.png
19:12	jordach	why wool
19:12	VanessaE	ok fine, let's make it cotton
19:12	VanessaE	stand by.
19:12	jordach	you know thats my mod
19:12	jordach	i have image magick on standby
19:13	* jordach	is happy, thanks to some blogger that allows me to get oracles java 7, mc wont run otherwise
19:14	VanessaE	working...
19:14	jordach	okay
19:14	jordach	thank you
19:14	VanessaE	this script might actually be useful for someone else later
19:16	jordach	thanks
19:20	jordach	hows it
19:20	jordach	going*
19:20	VanessaE	almost there.
19:20	jordach	cant you use find and replace
19:20	VanessaE	checking the output of it now
19:21	VanessaE	(I'm using it against a 512px base texture, so it takes a minute to run)
19:23	jordach	VanessaE, -j16
19:26	VanessaE	working on it still
19:32	jordach	done yet?
19:32	VanessaE	no, having trouble with it
19:34	jordach	oh#
19:34	VanessaE	what moron decided that hue should be a percentage of change!?
19:34	VanessaE	bah
19:35	jordach	tell me about stupid or what
19:40	VanessaE	this complicates things a little.
19:45	VanessaE	make that a LOT
19:45	VanessaE	it isn't a percentage either. it's a value 0-300, in counter-clockwise steps.
19:45	VanessaE	yet somehow a value of 200 is equal to 180 degrees
19:56	VanessaE	this is fucking stupid
19:57	VanessaE	let's see if this does the trick..
19:59	VanessaE	think I got it
20:05	jordach	yay
20:06	VanessaE	http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/gentextures.sh
20:06	VanessaE	ok here's how it works
20:06	VanessaE	1. make a directory
20:06	VanessaE	2. put this script there
20:06	VanessaE	3. make a single texture in bright red, 100% saturation, hue = 0. In other words, as close to #FF0000 as you can get without losing the detail of your texture
20:06	VanessaE	name it red_base_cotton.png
20:07	VanessaE	./gentextures.sh
20:07	VanessaE	(from inside the directory you created)
20:07	VanessaE	it'll create all 77 colors from that single one.
20:09	VanessaE	then use gthumb or ristretto or something to view the images, compare their filenames to the colors you get, and cross-compare with the dyes' actual colors to make sure they came out right
20:09	VanessaE	(from my end, they look right)
20:09	jordach	awesome
20:10	VanessaE	I believe all 32 colors from your original wool are represented here, or at least damn close.
20:16	jordach	that was fast
20:16	jordach	all textures in about 0.75 seconds
20:16	VanessaE	nod it's quick with smaller files
20:16	VanessaE	but did it produce what you want?
20:18	jordach	yep
20:18	VanessaE	excellent!
20:19	VanessaE	shall I publish this script?
20:20	jordach	YEP
20:20	jordach	go ahead
20:20	jordach	btw: i could do with a hand on the crafting
20:21	jordach	i understand if i = 1 do this forever, but, how they syntax works just loses me
20:22	jordach	thats where i am stuck
20:25	VanessaE	if i?
20:25	VanessaE	you me for i
20:25	VanessaE	mean
20:25	VanessaE	bah!
20:25	VanessaE	"if i"?
20:25	VanessaE	you mean "for i".
20:25	jordach	yes
20:25	VanessaE	for i = 1, 12
20:25	jordach	its just the wording gets me in the jam
20:26	VanessaE	means count from 1 to 12, placing the value in 'i'.
20:26	VanessaE	HUES[i] means "the item in location 'i' of the HUES table"
20:27	VanessaE	(which translates to the i'th line in the table as you see it in the code)
20:28	VanessaE	there, added some basic sanity checks - the script requires the presence of a textures/ directory, and the red_base_xxxx.png must be found therein
20:29	jordach	huh
20:29	jordach	prefered it without the textures folder
20:29	VanessaE	should help avoid "your script doesn't work!" complaints later.
20:29	jordach	yep
20:29	jordach	all im asking for is help with unifieddyes crafting intergration
20:29	jordach	i have no idea
20:30	VanessaE	give me a bit to finish this
20:30	jordach	alright
20:30	jordach	i dont expect it done by tomorrow
20:30	jordach	do it bit by bit
20:31	jordach	bas080 can eat my dust
20:31	jordach	(however, i will pass on the universal dying of one block)
20:33	VanessaE	ok, I'm gonna call the folder generated-textures, and the script will just create it and dump the results there
20:33	VanessaE	to avoid cluttering up the current dir.
20:34	jordach	alright i suppose
20:34	jordach	VanessaE, keep the old style dye system: once dyed, no returns
20:34	VanessaE	old style?
20:35	jordach	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKC1skLtbiI&feature=plcp
20:35	jordach	like that
20:35	jordach	MC has the no-return system
20:35	VanessaE	ohh
20:35	jordach	like tbhat
20:36	jordach	that*
20:36	VanessaE	well afaic, you shouldn't be able to un-dye something anyway
20:36	jordach	because that would fuck the colourant up
20:37	VanessaE	but, it might be good if you could convert medium grey and dark grey wool into medium and dark grey colors by adding the appropriate full-saturation dye (since unifieddyes does this internally to craft those colors anyway)
20:37	jordach	(but old wool did this)
20:37	VanessaE	excuse me, medium/dark grey COTTON.
20:37	jordach	yep
20:37	jordach	cotton is catching people off guard
20:38	VanessaE	it's okay, cotton makes more sense since the flowers can be found easily
20:38	VanessaE	maybe call this "fabric" instead of cotton, specifically
20:38	VanessaE	that way one could, say, craft wool, cotton, or some other textile into these blocks.
20:39	jordach	meh
20:39	jordach	i dont plan on any conversions
20:39	jordach	...yet
20:39	VanessaE	plan for the future.
20:39	jordach	i could write a abm that converts wool 32/16 into cotton
20:41	jordach	my gpu is 63'c
20:41	VanessaE	naw
20:41	VanessaE	don't do that, just leave existing stuff where it is
20:41	VanessaE	I'm thinking more like if the player has a shitload of wool "flowers" in their inventory already, maybe they could use those with my dyes to create these generic "textiles" blocks
20:42	jordach	dont worry
20:42	VanessaE	or if some time in the future, animals becomes a standard mod, sheep therein can be sheared for the wool
20:42	jordach	the abm will just remove them on_place
20:42	VanessaE	or the player can just go around collecting cotton flowers.
20:42	jordach	or just remove them for good
20:43	jordach	more minetest.register_alias("wool:flower", "flowers:cotton_flower")
20:43	jordach	old flowers -> ironzorgs
20:44	VanessaE	well as long as it's the standard flower, whether it's ironzorg's original mod or neko259's nature pack or whatever
20:44	jordach	hahahahahahahahahaha, my foss friend told me html5 and flash are bad for the planet.........
20:45	jordach	<offtopic/>
20:50	jordach	night all
20:50	jordach	but ill be on me tablet
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20:58	jordach\|tablet	back
21:07	jordach\|tablet	sigh
21:09	VanessaE	wb
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21:50	jordach\|tablet	ow, that hurts
21:52	jordach\|tablet	my bones clicked.
21:52	jordach\|tablet	night
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23:57	jordach\|tablet	eurgh...fuckin cold
23:57	jordach\|tablet	cant sleep, fun

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