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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2021-02-28

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02:54 MTDiscord <Jordach> alternatively, make a brand new game using the MT engine
02:54 MTDiscord <Jordach> maybe something that doesn't have the 7 years of historical cruft like CTF
02:58 VanessaE but without that 7 years' worth of cruft, existing mods may break :P
03:12 MTDiscord <Jordach> who gives a fuck about that
03:12 MTDiscord <Jordach> i shouldn't have to snap my spine in twain because of someones inability to keep up
03:17 VanessaE who cares?  just about every modder :P
03:17 VanessaE no one's gonna code mods for a one-off game that no one uses
03:17 VanessaE well almost no one
03:18 VanessaE that's why when I restarted Dreambuilder I stuck with mtg for its base files, though they do get small changes here and there.
03:18 VanessaE still, DB should be fully compatible with everything.
03:18 VanessaE (provided those things are in turn compatible with 5.4.0)
03:26 MTDiscord <Jonathon> looks at nodecore
03:28 VanessaE *shrug* just my opinion
03:29 VanessaE I google that term and I get some java package
03:32 VanessaE (though I did find the MT one quickly enough)
03:32 VanessaE to be fair, Jordach is pretty biased against mtg :P
03:33 VanessaE which reminds me, whatever became of BFD?
03:40 MTDiscord <Jonathon> searching it via tor on google/duckduckgo, nodecore on cdb is the first result, followed by the java package
03:41 MTDiscord <Jonathon> i believe he has a test server for it
03:42 MTDiscord <Jonathon> @Jordach
03:45 MTDiscord <Jordach> several game descendants
03:45 MTDiscord <Jordach> one of them specifically being the most impressive game for the engine
03:45 MTDiscord <Jordach> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5dolTfaPgA
03:46 VanessaE ah it was the first result for me, but for some reason my eyes just skipped over it
03:46 VanessaE all anyone needs is Dreambuilder Game. :)
03:46 VanessaE (or will, once I declare it ready to use)
03:48 MTDiscord <Jonathon> "all anyone needs is Dreambuilder Game. 🙂" if they enjoy being lag
03:48 MTDiscord <Jonathon> *lagged
03:49 MTDiscord <Jordach> on march 4th i'm coming into possession of one of those funky ARM MacBooks
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03:54 MTDiscord </g/> Diversity i guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯
04:10 VanessaE Jordach, in practice DB doesn't lag in singleplayer, and even on my Creative server it's usually quite reasonable.  it's not vanilla mtg but then what do you expect, it has a fuckton of mapgen mods
04:10 MTDiscord <Jordach> i've gone from using a VPS to just paying the ISP a bit more money for business class internet
04:10 VanessaE (well my server runs the old modpack version but the game version is pretty much the same apart from the theming and getting rid of those fucking fake apple trees.)
04:10 MTDiscord <Jordach> because my Ryzen 5 box can handle far more than a single core Xeon that's effectively shared
04:11 MTDiscord <Jordach> think you're looking for one of these
04:11 MTDiscord <Jordach> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747163533212516474/815436019486818364/71xB6oRV1bS.png
04:11 VanessaE heh
04:12 VanessaE fwiw I've been eyeing a Ryzen 5/3600 based machine
04:12 VanessaE once I can afford ity
04:12 MTDiscord <Jordach> i already have that machine
04:12 MTDiscord <Jordach> was tempted to spend my big flex money on a Ryzen 5800X and a RX 6800XT
04:13 VanessaE wanna put an AMD RX 5500 XT on it but G*d damn those have gotten expensive.  doubled in price in the past month or so
04:13 VanessaE (presently ~$520 according to pcpartpicker)
04:13 VanessaE https://pcpartpicker.com/user/VanessaE/saved/#view=7tV7RB
04:13 VanessaE this is my plan
04:14 MTDiscord <Jordach> i current wield a GTX 1080ti
04:14 VanessaE it was in the upper $700 range when I started it, now > $1000 and nothing's changed but the vendor the GPU comes from (I keep having to update it) :(
04:14 MTDiscord <Jordach> protip
04:14 MTDiscord <Jordach> you can get away with certain B450 boards
04:14 VanessaE anything nVidia is a hard pass form me
04:15 MTDiscord <Jordach> mine supports the 5800X
04:15 MTDiscord <Jordach> i actually sent my old machines DDR3 RAM to Emerald
04:16 MTDiscord <Jordach> yes i paid the express shipping tax
04:16 MTDiscord <Jordach> it's 7 years old by that point and i have nothing it goes in
04:16 VanessaE I think my current machine still runs DDR3.. :P  (1333 iirc)
04:16 MTDiscord <Jordach> mine was 1600
04:17 VanessaE if you didn't look at the pcpartpicker link, the new one will have DDR4-3200
04:17 MTDiscord <Jordach> i got 2x16GB DDR4 @ 3200 for less than $120
04:18 VanessaE and maybe that GPU or whatever I put in it will be new enough for blender to actually use for rendering :P
04:18 VanessaE (my current R9 280X is too old for OpenCL)
04:18 MTDiscord <Jordach> >using amd for cycles
04:18 MTDiscord <Jonathon> prices of components have gone crazy due to scalpers and shortages
04:18 MTDiscord <Jordach> you've done it wrong lass
04:18 MTDiscord <Jordach> Cycles is moving towards RTX
04:18 VanessaE Cycles?  Eevee is the new hawtness nowe.
04:18 VanessaE -e
04:18 MTDiscord <Jordach> it's not RT
04:18 MTDiscord <Jordach> it looks like a cheap game engine duct-taped
04:18 VanessaE I've done what wrong?
04:19 MTDiscord <Jordach> the Cycles raytracer is moving towards OptiX / RTX
04:20 MTDiscord <Jordach> Eevee also fucking sucks for my things that depend on custom texturing implementations
04:20 MTDiscord <Jordach> while it uses Principled, it still takes forever to rebuild the textures
04:21 MTDiscord <Jordach> as i do a lot of per-channel processing
04:21 MTDiscord <Jordach> even alpha
04:21 VanessaE you know, now that I've said that... I think my renders are still based on Cycles
04:21 VanessaE *checks*
04:22 MTDiscord <Jordach> nVidia drivers works on my machine
04:22 MTDiscord <Jordach> and i drive a weird combo of 29" Ultrawide + 165hz ASUS panel
04:22 VanessaE hm.  yep, Cycles for rendering.  I think it's just the "lookdev" 3d view mode that uses Eevee.
04:23 VanessaE btw, I ever show you how far along my skillz have gotten? :)
04:23 VanessaE https://gitlab.com/VanessaE/my-hypercube-files-big-version-320x320/-/blob/master/Images/Render.png
04:23 VanessaE (note to self: re-render that, the toolhead is out of date)
04:24 MTDiscord <Jordach> my house at this point is wired with enterprise wireless AP, cat 7 eth, etc
04:24 MTDiscord <Jordach> i can pull a few nosehairs over a gigabit on wifi
04:24 MTDiscord </g/> :dungeonmaster:
04:24 MTDiscord </g/> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747163533212516474/815439366771572816/20210227_232420.jpg
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