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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2020-08-30

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14:27 rubenwardy !help https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10894522
14:27 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
14:28 rubenwardy !title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10894522
14:28 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Is LGPL3 permitted on the appstore? | Hacker News
14:28 rubenwardy argh, I read something whilst typing
14:28 rubenwardy That thread seems to think that LGPLv2 can be on the app store, but GPLv2 can't
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17:23 celeron55 let's try to have a vote and discussion about the discord bridge about 2 hours from now at UTC 19:30
17:24 Lone_Wolf :eyes:
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19:35 MTDiscord <J​onathon> discussion starting late?
19:36 GreenXenith Seems so
19:37 MTDiscord <J​onathon> ok, ty
19:38 sfan5 here's my opinion either way: I don't mind the discord bridge and think it's overall positive for the often quite empty #minetest-hub and also for connecting the community
19:39 celeron55 let's start with the votes, only regular IRC users may vote: should the bridge stay and be further developed? no / yes / yes, but: (some change that you think has to be made)
19:41 celeron55 well, i guess discord can have its own vote too, GreenXenith can decide about that
19:42 GreenXenith I think that vote happened years ago
19:42 MTDiscord <J​onathon> lol
19:42 celeron55 i mean, vote among discord users about the bridge
19:43 MTDiscord <L​one_Wolf> 60 vs 7 for making the Discord official at least
19:43 GreenXenith As far as I am aware, the majority of Discord users are fine with anything that will bring the communities together more
19:43 MTDiscord <L​one_Wolf> A few of the people opposing are no longer with us
19:43 GreenXenith And on top of that, Discord users have the freedom to just mute and ignore the bridge channels
19:43 sfan5 my vote is yes in case that isn't obvious
19:45 celeron55 i'm also voting yes
19:49 rubenwardy yes
19:55 Warr1024 aye
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20:04 GreenXenith How many votes are we looking for?
20:05 celeron55 doesn't really matter, i'm just looking at the ratio
20:05 celeron55 looks like 100% yes so far, not likely we'll get 4 "no"s tonight
20:05 GreenXenith If anyone opposes later, they could bring it up then for discussion
20:06 GreenXenith When the bridge was first online it didnt seem like anyone had much against it either
20:09 celeron55 let's roll with the bridge then. adding #minetest to it might be something to look into
20:09 GreenXenith we can at least make it a read-only for now, if that seems reasonable
20:13 celeron55 personally i've been using the bridge to peek at these channels on my phone as most of the time i'm not connecting its irc client to freenode, and 75% of time the irc client isn't even running to begin with
20:13 GreenXenith Heh
20:15 celeron55 basically it's better than irccloud's free version
20:15 GreenXenith Something to note is there may be a way to automatically let certain Discord users speak in the read-only channel(s), since some users have expressed interest in speaking in the dev channel for questions and whatnot -- our server has automatic roles assigned based on activity in the discord, which could be used to only allow established members speak in those channels and filter out the newbies so you dont get accidental noise.
20:17 celeron55 i don't think activity on any chat platform correlates a lot with the ability to ask good development questions but i would be fine trying some very high requirement for it
20:19 GreenXenith No, it doesnt really correlate at all, but thats not the point. The idea is that the people that can speak in the channels will only do so if they have something meaningful to contribute. Otherwise, they will probably leave it alone.
20:19 GreenXenith Anyone that cant speak in the channel can just fire up an IRC client anyway
20:21 GreenXenith Its only a possibility that I thought of, there may be better ways
20:23 MTDiscord <L​one_Wolf> They can be pretty well trusted not to spam at the very least
20:23 celeron55 i guess it's worth testing out
20:25 GreenXenith Ill set it to Regular users and higher .. if it doesn't work out ill limit it to Established and higher
20:25 GreenXenith Seem reasonable enough?
20:26 celeron55 well, you know how discord works, not me 8)
20:26 celeron55 i will be surprised if we get actual engine development discussion between IRC and discord
20:27 GreenXenith We have a dedicated engine dev channel already, but I would expect a few people to pop in here if they have questions that devs would be more able to answer (since our dev presence on Discord is rather slim :])
20:29 celeron55 add #minetest while at it and we'll see how that goes also
20:29 GreenXenith Would you like that read-only, role-locked, or open?
20:30 celeron55 open
20:30 celeron55 it's a weird channel these days and this'll make it even weirder
20:30 GreenXenith hehe
20:30 celeron55 but let's see
20:32 celeron55 in theory if any noob questions end up there, more eyes means there will be an answer more likely
20:32 celeron55 but as a fact there are not even noob questions there these days
20:33 MTDiscord <L​one_Wolf> Got plenty of them here lol
20:33 celeron55 for some reason a relatively massive amount of people still hang around on #minetest though
20:33 celeron55 with nobody talking for weeks
20:34 GreenXenith Restarting bridge
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20:34 Topic for #minetest-hub is now Offtopic welcome if brief, otherwise use #minetest-chat | Info/Rules: http://hub.minetest.net/ | Logs: http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-hub/
20:35 MTDiscord <G​reenXenith> We have lift-off
20:36 MTDiscord <G​reenXenith> Interestingly, the relay colors names in #minetest but not -hub
20:36 rubenwardy !rainbow test
20:36 MinetestBot 4t7e8s3t
20:36 MTDiscord <G​reenXenith> wack
20:36 rubenwardy lol
20:36 rubenwardy !rainbow test
20:36 MinetestBot test
20:36 rubenwardy thanks chanserv
20:36 MTDiscord <G​reenXenith> Huh, interesting
20:37 sfan5 I don't think +C matters at all
20:37 sfan5 and you need to remove +c from the mlock
20:37 MTDiscord <G​reenXenith> test
20:40 MTDiscord <G​reenXenith> Hm, seems having name color helps clarity when reading.. may be worth having in this channel as well, idk
20:40 rubenwardy I don't have access to the mlock, afaik
20:56 celeron55 then we have the question of whether there's need for #-hub these days vs. just #minetest
20:56 celeron55 but i don't feel like doing anything about this right now
20:57 celeron55 just keep in mind that it might make sense to talk on #minetest if you like to talk with random people instead of ones you already know
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22:48 MTDiscord <J​ordach> What’s the worst that can happen
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