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BillyS |
Can't a tool's tool_capabilities be modified now in MT 5? |
| 00:33 |
rubenwardy |
BillyS: yes, stack:set_tool_capabilities(spec) |
| 00:33 |
BillyS |
Sweet, thanks |
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Fixer |
https://i.redd.it/b041awp4pps21.jpg |
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| 15:52 |
tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 15:52 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 15:53 |
tenplus1 |
hi Vanessa, what's new ? |
| 15:53 |
VanessaE |
nuffin' |
| 15:53 |
tenplus1 |
:P same... |
| 15:54 |
tenplus1 |
seen a few new hardcore servers on list, look interesting |
| 15:54 |
VanessaE |
you wanna take on another project that could use your "redo" magic? :) |
| 15:55 |
tenplus1 |
whassat ? |
| 15:56 |
VanessaE |
fork homedecor's wardrobe. make it read from an arbitrary folder full of skins, instead of the fixed-10 thing it does now. :) |
| 15:56 |
VanessaE |
it needs a rewrite and I'm too f'ing lazy :) |
| 15:57 |
tenplus1 |
you included wardrobe mod in the pack ? |
| 15:57 |
VanessaE |
not a mod, it's an old node that's been there forever |
| 15:57 |
VanessaE |
has no relation to any existing wardrobe-type mods |
| 15:57 |
tenplus1 |
ahh, heh, just checking :D |
| 15:58 |
VanessaE |
but they all suck imho :) |
| 15:58 |
tenplus1 |
*gasp* even Simple Skins ? |
| 15:58 |
VanessaE |
that one sucks the least :) |
| 15:58 |
tenplus1 |
ehehehe |
| 15:58 |
VanessaE |
maybe fork the wardrobe node out of homedecor, combine it with simple skins |
| 15:59 |
tenplus1 |
will check it out and see what I can do :) would be more interesting to have players build a wardrobe first before they could change skins |
| 15:59 |
VanessaE |
then I could re-incorporate it as a standalone-able component of the modpack :) |
| 15:59 |
VanessaE |
I think a search-filter would be a good idea, too |
| 16:00 |
VanessaE |
kinda like the one in unified inventory |
| 16:00 |
tenplus1 |
searcxh skin titles and author |
| 16:00 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 16:00 |
VanessaE |
or filename or wtf ever is easiest |
| 16:00 |
VanessaE |
but see, |
| 16:00 |
VanessaE |
simple skins requires too much effort on the part of the admin |
| 16:01 |
tenplus1 |
it does ? I just plot a new skin in and call it character_000.png and the list adds it |
| 16:01 |
VanessaE |
I'd like to be able to just plunk a file into a dir, keeping its raw filename (if the name makes sense), and just let the mod build the list |
| 16:02 |
tenplus1 |
will look into that... but... custom player skins are in th same dir... would include those too even when you wouldnt want it to |
| 16:02 |
VanessaE |
i.e. "also... pop into the meta directory and make a new XXXXXX file with this text inside it" is too much work |
| 16:03 |
VanessaE |
and it should support the 64x64 skin format if possible |
| 16:03 |
VanessaE |
and mesh nicely with 3darmor |
| 16:03 |
tenplus1 |
it will... since 5.0 player model supports it already |
| 16:03 |
VanessaE |
and...and...and... |
| 16:03 |
VanessaE |
;) |
| 16:03 |
VanessaE |
wait what? |
| 16:03 |
tenplus1 |
3d_armor supports simple skins already so will build on that |
| 16:03 |
VanessaE |
I've been cropping skins to 64x32 since forever - player_textures mod. |
| 16:04 |
tenplus1 |
I had a "WeeSkin" mod that worked like player_textures but did 64x64 |
| 16:04 |
VanessaE |
also, |
| 16:04 |
VanessaE |
it's a bad idea to have one file per player for anything |
| 16:05 |
tenplus1 |
sskins uses player meta to set skin :D no files needed |
| 16:05 |
VanessaE |
lots of small files (i.e. as created over time as a server ages) take geological time to back up if you're using a HDD |
| 16:05 |
VanessaE |
eh? |
| 16:05 |
VanessaE |
what about: also... pop into the meta directory and make a new "character_31.txt" file with this text inside it" |
| 16:05 |
VanessaE |
first post of simple skins forum thread |
| 16:06 |
tenplus1 |
that's only for the skin itself, if I'm adding all those to a single file it would do away with it |
| 16:06 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 16:06 |
VanessaE |
your work makes my life easier, just trying to help :) |
| 16:07 |
tenplus1 |
got the wardrobe extracted with files, will check it out |
| 16:07 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 16:09 |
tenplus1 |
much prefer the model wardrobe instead of 2 nodes... they should change beds to do this also |
| 16:37 |
Fixer |
Hey, little drums *,,,,,* |
| 16:37 |
tenplus1 |
o// |
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| 16:40 |
tenplus1 |
hi Banzai |
| 16:40 |
BuckarooBanzai |
hey :) |
| 16:41 |
BuckarooBanzai |
whats up? |
| 16:41 |
tenplus1 |
building a wardrobe :P |
| 16:41 |
BuckarooBanzai |
from VanessaE's homedecor..? |
| 16:41 |
tenplus1 |
hehe yeh |
| 16:41 |
VanessaE |
tenplus1: if mtg had a good public beds api I'd make homedecor override the mtg bed and use it. homedecor's beds are one node apiece, even king size |
| 16:42 |
BuckarooBanzai |
tenplus1: nice :D |
| 16:42 |
tenplus1 |
could always simplify bed api like I did with sethome |
| 16:43 |
BuckarooBanzai |
i'm just putting that here: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=21999 (incremental mapserver) should be stable/mature now... :) |
| 16:43 |
VanessaE |
well it's not so much that it's complicated. it's not really public, and what parts are are undocumented afair, |
| 16:44 |
tenplus1 |
le map |
| 16:49 |
tenplus1 |
you try to do too much within homedecor Vanessa, gotta start relying on other mods like inttlib etc |
| 16:53 |
VanessaE |
I know |
| 16:53 |
VanessaE |
a lot of that is old cruft |
| 16:53 |
VanessaE |
years of development.. |
| 16:53 |
VanessaE |
the whole thing needs refactored |
| 16:53 |
tenplus1 |
am jumping back and forward through lua's to see how the wardrobe works :) you have custom functions for most things :DDD |
| 16:54 |
VanessaE |
yep, like I said... lots of cruft :) |
| 17:00 |
tenplus1 |
w00t! we have separation... working as standalone mod now |
| 17:01 |
VanessaE |
\o/ |
| 17:01 |
VanessaE |
how much code were you able to delete from homedecor? |
| 17:01 |
* tenplus1 |
stores a wardrobe inside a wardrobe... ooooOOOooohhh! |
| 17:01 |
tenplus1 |
I stripped down homedecor to the bare min to get wardrope working :) can prolly strip it even further |
| 17:02 |
VanessaE |
:+1: |
| 17:02 |
tenplus1 |
is sitting at 117kb |
| 17:04 |
VanessaE |
that's homedecor sans wardrobe? |
| 17:04 |
tenplus1 |
oh sorry, wardrobe on it's own with textures is sitting at 117kb |
| 17:05 |
VanessaE |
eek |
| 17:05 |
VanessaE |
sounds like a bunch of HD crap is still sticking to it :) |
| 17:05 |
tenplus1 |
lotta homedecor.* dependency functions, stripping those now :D |
| 17:09 |
VanessaE |
homedecor practically went the way of emacs: it's almost become an operating system ;) |
| 17:09 |
tenplus1 |
lol yeah :P |
| 17:09 |
tenplus1 |
never actually used emacs all that much |
| 17:11 |
VanessaE |
you have I believe exio4 to thank for the current state of HD - it woulda been much worse without his input :) |
| 17:16 |
tenplus1 |
102kb |
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| 17:21 |
tenplus1 |
hi rafi |
| 17:22 |
Rafi59 |
Hi :) |
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| 17:33 |
tenplus1 |
hi Megaf |
| 17:35 |
tenplus1 |
95kb |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
tenplus1: I assume you'll make a PR to move it to its own mod? I think it should be called "homedecor_wardrobe" |
| 17:35 |
tenplus1 |
yep :) |
| 17:37 |
VanessaE |
I think a good start for refactoring HD, after you get the wardrobe separated-out, would be to move all those extra functions and handlers, all the generic materials, into like "homedecor_api", then turn each of the "foo.lua" files that provides items/nodes, into a separate mod i.e. foo.lua -> homedecor_foo/init.lua and make each depend on that api component |
| 17:37 |
VanessaE |
I can do that. |
| 17:38 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, simplify the whole thing and remove a buttload of dependencies |
| 17:41 |
BuckarooBanzai |
VanessaE: will you make it backward compatible? :) that would spare everybody some trouble when upgrading... :D |
| 17:41 |
VanessaE |
it would be yeah |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
all players would need to do is re-enable the whole modpack |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
that way they'll see no obvious changes, aside from the work tenplus1 is doing on the wardrobe of course |
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| 17:46 |
tenplus1 |
hiraven |
| 17:46 |
Raven262 |
Hi ten |
| 17:59 |
VanessaE |
oh, and since there'll still need to be a "homedecor" mod (i.e. by that specific name), I'll build it off of misc-nodes.lua. |
| 18:06 |
rubenwardy |
anyone here speak portugese? https://twitter.com/zacariasxatt/status/1118539292450729985 |
| 18:06 |
rubenwardy |
might be worth saying the 0.4.13 is very old |
| 18:06 |
* VanessaE |
peeks over tenplus1's shoulder.... um, why'd you move that block of code there? and shouldn't *that* texture be used instead? :) |
| 18:06 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: ^ |
| 18:06 |
VanessaE |
I think he does? |
| 18:07 |
tenplus1 |
rubenwardy: "Tfw you install Minecraft on the computers at the college" ? |
| 18:07 |
rubenwardy |
I know what it says |
| 18:07 |
tenplus1 |
eheh oh :P |
| 18:07 |
VanessaE |
look at the window title bar, tenplus1 |
| 18:07 |
rubenwardy |
I've learned that replying using Google Translate is a bad idea |
| 18:08 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 18:17 |
tenplus1 |
87kb :P |
| 18:17 |
VanessaE |
how much of that is the textures, btw? |
| 18:18 |
tenplus1 |
textures and model are 79kb |
| 18:18 |
VanessaE |
so only 8 kb of code, that's not so bad |
| 18:18 |
tenplus1 |
getting there |
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| 18:20 |
tenplus1 |
wb |
| 18:24 |
VanessaE |
back in a bit |
| 18:31 |
kaeza |
Hm? |
| 18:32 |
kaeza |
Greetings. |
| 18:32 |
tenplus1 |
o/ kaeza |
| 18:32 |
kaeza |
o/ tenplus1 |
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tenplus1 |
hi ssieb |
| 18:50 |
ssieb |
hi |
| 18:50 |
VanessaE |
back |
| 18:52 |
tenplus1 |
wb |
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tenplus1 |
wb |
| 19:08 |
tenplus1 |
will leave it there for now... 8.6kb and working a-ok :) |
| 19:08 |
Megaf |
Hey tenplus1 |
| 19:08 |
tenplus1 |
hi dude |
| 19:09 |
Megaf |
hows things mate |
| 19:10 |
tenplus1 |
not bad, tinkering with vanessa's wardrope in homedecor... separated it into it's own mod for now... yourself ? |
| 19:10 |
Megaf |
hah, been far away from minetest for a while |
| 19:10 |
tenplus1 |
time off for good behaviour :D |
| 19:11 |
Megaf |
hah |
| 19:11 |
Megaf |
so, I got these two ThinkPads |
| 19:11 |
Megaf |
very happy with them, and they run MT quite well |
| 19:11 |
tenplus1 |
nice one, thinkpads are quite stable :D |
| 19:11 |
Megaf |
I also've been testing Clear Linux in one of them |
| 19:12 |
tenplus1 |
I keep trying that one, my non-uefi nettop doesnt wanna boot it |
| 19:12 |
Megaf |
oh, just use clover efi in one usb |
| 19:12 |
Megaf |
lemme get you the link |
| 19:13 |
Megaf |
tenplus1, https://sourceforge.net/projects/cloverefiboot/ |
| 19:13 |
Megaf |
so, with that you can boot EFI stuff on BIOS only PCs |
| 19:13 |
tenplus1 |
thankies |
| 19:13 |
Megaf |
it can boot even macOS :P |
| 19:13 |
tenplus1 |
o.O dont think I'll go that far :D |
| 19:14 |
Megaf |
so you boot Clover Boot from the flash drive, then plug in clear linux flash drive and done |
| 19:14 |
Megaf |
though I dont think Clear Linux supports Atom, it needs a second gen i3/5/7 at least |
| 19:15 |
tenplus1 |
prolly why I'm having issues... might just stick to Kubuntu 19.04 for now :D |
| 19:16 |
Megaf |
hah, I just upgraded my main ThinkPad from Debian Stretch (Stable) to Debian Buster (RC1) |
| 19:16 |
tenplus1 |
looks like I'm gonna have to go through all the licenses for mobs redo when I have some time off... am getting issues on notabug regarding textures it seems |
| 19:16 |
Megaf |
I have one of the ThinkPads for work/college and other for fun |
| 19:17 |
Megaf |
tenplus1, just use my very own license |
| 19:17 |
Megaf |
:P |
| 19:17 |
tenplus1 |
work and fun :) the two shall never mix :D |
| 19:17 |
tenplus1 |
https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/mobs_monster/issues/1 |
| 19:17 |
Megaf |
https://gist.github.com/Megaf/a4a131027db7deb612c71556886a300a |
| 19:17 |
Megaf |
my license... ^ |
| 19:18 |
tenplus1 |
lol, nice one :D |
| 19:18 |
Megaf |
it's a mix of with do what the fuck you want with beer license |
| 19:19 |
Megaf |
what the fuck you want license -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTFPL |
| 19:19 |
Megaf |
Beer License -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beerware |
| 19:19 |
tenplus1 |
hehe, I use MIT mostly for simplicity;'s sake and use in schools |
| 19:29 |
tenplus1 |
nite all |
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BuckarooBanzai |
bye all |
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Megaf |
sorry, internet issues |
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Megaf |
oh, he is gone already |
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Emerald2 |
Dangit I missed tenplus1 |
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sofar |
!tell Megaf clearlinux supports Atom processorts - most 2014+ models work fine |
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MinetestBot |
sofar: I'll pass that on when Megaf is around |
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