| Time |
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| 00:07 |
rubenwardy |
Controversial |
| 00:09 |
IhrFussel |
Any new server that didn't have a 0.4.X userbase before can run on 5.0.0 without any impact |
| 00:10 |
kaeza |
Greetings, Megaf. |
| 00:10 |
IhrFussel |
Any server where the target userbase is PC users and mobile doesn't matter much can also upgrade to 5.0.0 without much problems |
| 00:11 |
IhrFussel |
If mobile users matter to you (especially iOS) stay on 0.4.X for now |
| 00:13 |
IhrFussel |
I expect the iOS 3rd-party apps to upgrade soon... cause they want to make more money with their ads/inapp purchases |
| 00:14 |
IhrFussel |
Probably when they realize most major servers run on 5.X |
| 00:16 |
IhrFussel |
in the future* |
| 00:16 |
rubenwardy |
Loyal players will follow you to 5.x |
| 00:16 |
IhrFussel |
They can't on iOS |
| 00:16 |
rubenwardy |
It's only guests and those stuck on iOS won't |
| 00:16 |
IhrFussel |
That's the point |
| 00:17 |
rubenwardy |
And I don't care about iOS |
| 00:17 |
rubenwardy |
We can't make a legal apps |
| 00:17 |
rubenwardy |
All apps there are illegsl |
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| 00:17 |
IhrFussel |
Well over 30% of my mobile userbase is iOS and I won't discriminate them now |
| 00:18 |
rubenwardy |
A lot of the iOS apps will have fly hacks and such too |
| 00:18 |
rubenwardy |
For an IAP |
| 00:19 |
IhrFussel |
You make that decision when you make your server...whether or not you allow certain apps/users to connect... if you do it later, you waste their time in case some of them put lots of effort into your server just to be greeted by a 'sorry cannot play here' message some day |
| 00:20 |
rubenwardy |
If we were following the law to the letter, we should probably DMCA all the apps on iOS |
| 00:20 |
rdococ |
Why hasn't Apple banned Powerpoint from their app store yet? |
| 00:20 |
rubenwardy |
Sorry for being cynical |
| 00:21 |
rubenwardy |
I'm just annoyed that we can't legally compete because we're held to a higher standard |
| 00:21 |
rdococ |
nvm, I was going to make a joke but I think it's not a great time to do so |
| 00:23 |
IhrFussel |
It's bad that MT doesn't support iOS... we can pretend that those users don't matter all we want...the facts show us something different |
| 00:23 |
IhrFussel |
We could very well use the people |
| 00:23 |
rubenwardy |
We legally can't support them |
| 00:24 |
IhrFussel |
I already know that, but it's just a bad situation overall... we are missing out on a lot of potential players only cause of licensing issues |
| 00:25 |
rubenwardy |
Yeah |
| 00:25 |
rubenwardy |
We could ignore the licensing issues |
| 00:25 |
rubenwardy |
But all it would take was some zealot from our community or FSF |
| 00:25 |
rubenwardy |
Or from competing apps |
| 00:27 |
rubenwardy |
That's how VLC got removed |
| 00:27 |
IhrFussel |
The only realistic case would be that Apple somehow suddenly allows our license |
| 00:29 |
IhrFussel |
But not sure if MT would even have a chance still... imagine how many clone apps existed over the past years...the Android app is available since (2013?) at least |
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| 01:46 |
Emerald2 |
Hey paramat could you please voice Ganome? |
| 01:51 |
Emerald2 |
Or somebody. :) |
| 02:14 |
paramat |
Shara if you're around ^ |
| 02:14 |
paramat |
i can't permanently voice someone, but Shara can |
| 02:16 |
Shara |
Around, yes. Awake... debatable. |
| 02:21 |
Shara |
Is it someone who is known? |
| 02:21 |
Emerald2 |
Yep I play on his server. |
| 02:21 |
Emerald2 |
He is having some uhh, adventures with getting it set up. |
| 02:21 |
Emerald2 |
Like a world with nothing but air below -800. That was great. |
| 02:23 |
Emerald2 |
Thank you. :) |
| 02:23 |
Shara |
Done :) |
| 02:31 |
rubenwardy |
IcyDiamond: do you know any mods which are like tinker's construct |
| 02:32 |
rubenwardy |
I think you mentioned it at some point? |
| 02:35 |
GreenDimond |
Melterns |
| 02:35 |
GreenDimond |
rubenwardy: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=19916 |
| 02:36 |
rubenwardy |
thanks |
| 02:36 |
rubenwardy |
someone on twitter was asking |
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| 03:09 |
paramat |
Ganome i did get your private message, i was just busy :) |
| 03:12 |
paramat |
tinker's construct eh ... i used to watch MC multiplayer videos but became fed up when most of them became endless fiddling with machines, not much fun to watch |
| 03:13 |
paramat |
it feels like MC had moved towards play being endless crafting and fiddling with machines, instead of adventure |
| 03:18 |
paramat |
and building, etc. |
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| 03:43 |
benrob0329 |
paramat: there are only so many times that one can kill the ender dragon I suppose |
| 03:46 |
paramat |
but then it may have just been the interests of the MC players i was following: guude, vintagebeef and friends |
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| 08:21 |
Emerald2 |
Ugh. Where is moretrees hiding all the rubber trees? |
| 08:23 |
Emerald2 |
I blame VanessaE :P |
| 09:02 |
VanessaE |
pull requests welcome :P |
| 09:02 |
Emerald2 |
They're supposed to be near water on dirt with grass, right? |
| 09:03 |
VanessaE |
if I remember right yes |
| 09:03 |
VanessaE |
but there are other controls as wel |
| 09:03 |
VanessaE |
well* |
| 09:04 |
VanessaE |
temperature, humidity, elevation, land fertility, and more. |
| 09:05 |
Emerald2 |
oof yeah, I looked at the code but I haven't got to where I understand heat and humidity yet |
| 09:05 |
Emerald2 |
Does carpathian mapgen effect it? |
| 09:08 |
VanessaE |
dunno |
| 09:08 |
VanessaE |
humidity and so on are all managed by biome_lib, not by the mapgen |
| 09:09 |
VanessaE |
though I tried to at least match that one to mgv6's normal setting. |
| 09:24 |
Emerald2 |
Didn't see either kind of palm yet, either. |
| 09:33 |
VanessaE |
those grow on sand, near water |
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| 10:21 |
Emerald2 |
Found a palm beach by a cold desert biome. |
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| 11:02 |
ANAND |
Just to confirm, CC0 doesn't require any sort of attribution, right? |
| 11:05 |
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| 11:05 |
ANAND |
Hmm... it doesn't. |
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| 11:39 |
IhrFussel |
I told you that forcing people on Ubuntu to 5.0.0 will cause problems https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=346788#p346788 ... you basically took away the ability to reinstall stable 0.4 from the PPAs ... so if people don't manage to compile manually they are out of luck on Linux |
| 11:42 |
IhrFussel |
On Windows you can simply download an older zip from github releases ... for Linux there are no final executables to download |
| 11:43 |
IhrFussel |
You could probably link the .deb files to github/forum but I'm not sure if a MT version that was only tested for an older Ubuntu release will now magically work on the newest Ubuntu versions |
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| 15:04 |
Krock |
ANAND: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/8385#issuecomment-475967160 |
| 15:04 |
Krock |
Do you mean that "For more information, click on any entry in the list...." should be replaced with "" in this case? |
| 15:05 |
Krock |
if it's just about collapsing, then I don't think that the fields are sent |
| 15:06 |
Krock |
i.e. not possible to update anything just by collapsing |
| 15:46 |
Peppy |
login Peppy Gvppmp4TL |
| 15:46 |
Peppy |
gr |
| 15:47 |
* Peppy |
changes pwd |
| 15:50 |
Krock |
cd .. |
| 15:51 |
Krock |
pwd |
| 15:51 |
Krock |
> Your password needs at least one special character. |
| 15:52 |
Peppy |
fixed, thanks |
| 15:52 |
Calinou |
sam8 |
| 15:52 |
Calinou |
if you type your password it displays as ***! |
| 15:52 |
benrob0329 |
Hmm, Qt gets away with LGPL on iOS |
| 15:54 |
Krock |
hunter2 |
| 15:57 |
IcyDiamond |
:D |
| 15:58 |
benrob0329 |
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/35068054/does-app-store-accept-qt-app-linked-with-qt-library-lgplv3 |
| 15:58 |
benrob0329 |
I'm remembering why I dislike GNU licenses |
| 16:05 |
ANAND |
Krock: I was referring to the command description |
| 16:05 |
ANAND |
+ textarea |
| 16:06 |
Krock |
benrob0329: *why you dislike the app store |
| 16:07 |
ANAND |
When the relevant list has been collapsed, the textarea still displays the command help. |
| 16:07 |
ANAND |
But I understand fields aren't sent on expanding/collapsing trees. |
| 16:09 |
Krock |
well yeah, no sent fields = no action = no hiding of the description |
| 16:27 |
benrob0329 |
Krock: the problem seems to be that there isn't a good way to replace those LGPL libraries on mobile platforms |
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* Sokomine |
looks around hopefully, wishing for someone who can combine some textures for her... |
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| 18:12 |
Sokomine |
it's not that tricky (i hope!) |
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| 18:13 |
Sokomine |
mostly, i need one texture superimposed on another (something which mt can do by default) - but i do not want this texture to fill the entire space. it ought to be smaller... |
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| 18:14 |
NathanS21 |
Can't you just layer the files in Gimp? |
| 18:17 |
Sokomine |
er... |
| 18:17 |
* Sokomine |
looks at gimp and runs away! |
| 18:19 |
Sokomine |
i do have my handle_schematics mod. up to now, i used the chest-textures for the building spawner/build chest. i've now changed it to a more sign-like nodebox. now, what i want is to display a floor plan texture (grundriss) on that sign. if i use the floor plan as a texture for the front, it'll take up the entire front space. but i want it to be...just..pinned...onto the wood, with some |
| 18:19 |
Sokomine |
wood-texture remaining around |
| 18:20 |
NathanS21 |
sounds simple enough. |
| 18:20 |
NathanS21 |
I could do it for you. |
| 18:20 |
Sokomine |
that would be great :-) |
| 18:31 |
ircSparky |
how am i supposed to use old_craft_grid on the register_on_craft_method? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L3820 |
| 18:32 |
ircSparky |
it dosnt seem to be a normal table |
| 18:33 |
ircSparky |
a string table i mean |
| 18:34 |
ircSparky |
ah its a table of itemstacks |
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| 19:08 |
GreenDimond |
2 new PRs on drawers for you, sofar ;p |
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| 20:06 |
garywhite |
they released it? |
| 20:07 |
rubenwardy |
a summary |
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| 20:30 |
IhrFussel |
Is the crosshair at exactly x=0.5, y=0.5 in terms of formspec? |
| 20:36 |
IhrFussel |
Looks like it |
| 20:37 |
Sokomine |
was there a general way to tell i.e. mesecon pushing nodes that a particular node does not want to be pushed around? |
| 20:39 |
IhrFussel |
Sokomine, I think in the mvps mod there is something that controls this...one sec |
| 20:40 |
IhrFussel |
https://github.com/minetest-mods/mesecons/blob/master/mesecons_mvps/init.lua#L16 |
| 20:43 |
Sokomine |
hmm. i was hoping for a group or something like that... |
| 20:45 |
IhrFussel |
Nope but I found the actual register call |
| 20:46 |
IhrFussel |
mesecon.register_mvps_stopper(nodename) |
| 20:47 |
Sokomine |
hmm. better than nothing. still...such interfaces may change.... |
| 20:47 |
Sokomine |
thanks for finding it! |
| 20:51 |
IhrFussel |
I don't think it will change...from what I can see it didn't change in the last years |
| 20:51 |
IhrFussel |
No problem =) |
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kaeza |
Greetings. |
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Sokomine |
hi |
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