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paramat |
IhrFussel that CSM sounds mod on the forum has a folder that has to be put in the server mod folder, so it isn't a purely clientside mod, it's a serverside mod plus a clientside mod. only server owners can use it |
| 00:04 |
paramat |
somewhat weird |
| 00:05 |
IhrFussel |
Why not implement as server side mod then? |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
not so much |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
technic's music player works that way too |
| 00:05 |
IhrFussel |
Is there a callback the server cannot use in that CSM? |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
it won't play anything without a sound pack installed in the client. |
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GreenDimond |
:0 |
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GreenDimond |
well I finally understand how the music player works |
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paramat |
i can't see how technic music player works the same way, otherwise every player would have to install files locally |
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VanessaE |
paramat: bingo. |
| 00:17 |
VanessaE |
RBA did it that way because high quality music would demand huge downloads. |
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VanessaE |
better to have individual clients fetch and install sounds if they want them than to force all players to download at connect time |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
even low-quality would still add up.. say 10 MB worth of audio vs. 30 MB |
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IhrFussel |
Wait...that feature was available years ago? |
| 00:27 |
VanessaE |
yup. |
| 00:27 |
VanessaE |
you install the sounds as a pack, in a way similar to installing a texture pack. |
| 00:28 |
VanessaE |
though idk where to find any "official" sound pack for it. |
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paramat |
ah sound pack ok |
| 00:29 |
paramat |
that's not what this forum mod does, the sounds are on the server and sent to the client, the client uses CSM code to play them |
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IhrFussel |
So 'sound packs' allow to override server sounds still? |
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VanessaE |
paramat: yeah I know. but the idea is similar. |
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VanessaE |
IhrFussel: dunno, never tried. |
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paramat |
so this sounds mod is a 'manual server-sent CSM mod' (before SSCSM has been coded), you have to convince all your players to download the mod and install the client side part |
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VanessaE |
yeah, no. |
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VanessaE |
I hate that idea. |
| 00:31 |
VanessaE |
that's MC territory there |
| 00:32 |
paramat |
i downloaded the mod, i guess the advantage is inventory open/close, death and damage sounds without network delay |
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IhrFussel |
That might sound weird if the server DOES lag... cause then you hear the sound but visual is missing |
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paramat |
https://wiki.minetest.net/Sound_Packs and there's the technic music player info |
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IhrFussel |
Well and inventory callbacks are new to 5.0.0 |
| 00:34 |
IhrFussel |
At least server side... not sure if CSMs have those in 0.4.X |
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paramat |
seems similar to texture packs. there's perhaps an argument that a server should be able to override the client's choice of textures and sounds |
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IhrFussel |
For texture packs I guess a way to make 'sure' the client sees the texture the server wants them to see is by giving it a string no texture pack includes |
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IhrFussel |
Renaming the texture to 'texturename_[randomstring]' should already work...right? |
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paramat |
aah hmm |
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IhrFussel |
For sounds it is not as easy...not if you rely on default sounds |
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Fixer |
just use MOD/XM/AHX player in minetest, tiny downloads, thicc musik |
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Fixer |
but before put some mobs into mtg ofc, to increase the fun (cat_eyes.tga) |
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Fixer |
have a nice night |
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tenplus1 |
hi folks :) |
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* tenplus1 |
*boops* all |
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tenplus1 |
does anyone else use nvidia drivers ??? |
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tenplus1 |
hi CBugDCoder |
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CBugDCoder |
hi ten |
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tenplus1 |
:P |
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CWz |
I use nvidia drivers |
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tenplus1 |
hey CWz, are you using linux as well ? |
| 15:08 |
CWz |
Yes |
| 15:08 |
tenplus1 |
have you noticed that nvidia drivers uses a LOT of memory when using latest ? |
| 15:09 |
tenplus1 |
e.g. I use Kubuntu 19.04 and it sits nicely at 294mb, then I added nvidia drivers and it shot up to 590mb o.O |
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CWz |
Hmm i am using 18.04 and 396.54 |
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CWz |
so i might not have that issue |
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tenplus1 |
ahh, I have an Nvidia ion.v2 (gt-218) so needs 340 to work... bah! |
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CWz |
Sheep |
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tenplus1 |
sheep ? |
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CWz |
You went Bah |
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tenplus1 |
eheheh |
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tenplus1 |
just weird that it uses 300mb worth of driver memory, that's excessive |
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CWz |
is the open source driver any good? |
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tenplus1 |
noveau worked fine on initial install, but it's not as fast as binary blob |
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tenplus1 |
hi xenon |
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_Xenon |
Hi tenplus1 :) |
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tenplus1 |
o// |
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jas_ |
Cool. |
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