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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2018-12-14

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01:31 tumeninodes That's what proprietary can produce ;) I'm trying to figure which bits are actual gameplay and which are animation. If it's all actual gameplay then yah, what Jordach said x1000
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02:02 MinetestBot benrob0329: Dec-12 04:28 UTC <paramat> please restrain offtopic on -hub
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02:15 tumeninodes haha, we're IRC thugs
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07:09 nerzhul Jordach we can do this if we have a base good texture pack, i really like the color panel choose in this video, it's very proper
07:09 nerzhul minetest_game is too rough and old school
07:09 nerzhul with such colors it's nice
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07:37 Unarelith nerzhul, there are tons of Minecraft texture packs out there, some of them could have a compatible license, why not use that for MTG?
07:37 Unarelith I guessed this question has been asked many times ._.
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08:36 nerzhul i'm not a mtg coredev, but really i think a good texture pack which is similar to that game make it more attractive than our rough one
08:38 Unarelith I can't agree more
08:39 nerzhul maybe we can try to make it more attractive for 5.0.0
08:39 VanessaE use HDX ;)
08:39 nerzhul an old friend of mine did a good texture pack
08:39 Unarelith could be great for 5.0.0
08:39 nerzhul VanessaE the problem is not the resolution, but with 16x16 and a such color palette you can do nice things
08:40 VanessaE I was joking :P
08:40 nerzhul 8x8 is a little bit too limited in terms of precision i think
08:40 Unarelith agreed
08:40 nerzhul i'm not a mtg developer it's just a end user suggestion
09:43 BuckarooBanzai published my mail/webmail mod if anyone is interested: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=21567
09:56 IcyDiamond nice
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13:27 IhrFussel Hello there^^ I kinda doubt that a EULA is enough on a server to be allowed to allow 18+ content -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=338005#p338005 ... I mean legally
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13:33 rud0lf jas i malgosia
13:36 BuckarooBanzai IhrFussel: there are websites with 18+ content that don't ask for age or anything...
13:37 IhrFussel BuckarooBanzai, those are run by large companies that can likely defend themselves when a lawsuit flies into their office ... I wouldn't risk that as private person
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13:38 IhrFussel There are also many "nude pic" websites run by normal people but AFAIK nobody knows who really runs those
13:41 BuckarooBanzai i think as long as the content is still "legal" (18+ or not) there should be no issue...
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13:50 IhrFussel Didn't the devs once say they support no "sex servers" in the list? Or maybe that has changed
13:51 IhrFussel If a server is 18+ you can be sure that sex is one of the very first things that happen there
13:52 IcyDiamond Sex servers lmfao
13:53 IhrFussel I guess a "no rules" server is accepted in the list which means everything is allowed there, but the server owner is still liable for illegal activities...not sure if they realize that
13:54 jas_ what happened?
13:56 BuckarooBanzai jas_: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=338005#p338005
13:56 jas_ no i meant rud0lf telling me he was malgosia
13:56 MinetestSam Pretty weird since 'evrything' goes isn't a good term to usr
13:56 jas_ i'm not sure
13:56 MinetestSam use*
13:56 jas_ oh let me see here
13:57 jas_ i read that last night, i was gonna reply but
13:57 jas_ no
13:58 jas_ rules.  1) stay in school.  2) don't do drugs
13:58 jas_ shit.  double shit!
13:59 MinetestSam Heh
13:59 jas_ i don't like rules but you have to have them
14:00 MinetestSam Well yes you need to have some sort of rules
14:00 rud0lf jas_: jas i małgosia are polish "hansel and grettel"
14:00 rud0lf :)
14:01 jas_ i guess it's not the rules per se, it's oftentimes the enforcement that bothers me, or expectations of how exactly they're applied, etc
14:01 jas_ it's an issue for me
14:01 jas_ thanks rud0lf
14:01 rud0lf stay in school? even when i majored from it?
14:01 rud0lf "mom i'm 54.. can i go home now?"
14:01 MinetestSam Hah no
14:01 jas_ "no, it's better you just stay there"
14:02 jas_ basically rules are good but too strict enforcement or application isn't, i think
14:04 jas_ i dunno, guess it all depends.  operating MT servers has always been a sticky subject, but i figured that goes with any multiplayer game
14:05 jas_ guess it really boils down to, what's the game they're playing?  is it a social game?  is it a "multiplayer" game?  if the focus is building, or capturing the flag, you can narrow all focus there
14:06 jas_ but if it's just build and hang out, and chat and be social, then perhaps the rules are more challenging to create there?
14:12 jas_ i don't like to make them because as soon as they're made, they're sorta made to break in some people's eyes.
14:12 jas_ but it also saddens me that you have to remind people to "follow the law" or "be respectful"
14:12 jas_ oh well. /me heads out
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16:57 IhrFussel Wow someone called me "fashist" for enforcing my rules
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17:00 jas_ probably a bit strong, judging by this definition here
17:00 jas_ "characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy"
17:00 jas_ ?
17:00 rdococ IhrFussel: what rule did you enforce?
17:02 IhrFussel The rule was "no alternative accounts allowed" and the offending person created TWO at the same time and was online with BOTH... so I banned the alts and gave the original user a temp ban
17:03 rdococ do you know why they created those alt accounts and try to play with both at the same time? seems unusual for them to do that for no reason
17:04 IhrFussel To circumvent protection limits probably... but that was a bad idea...they could've instead asked me for more protection slots
17:04 IhrFussel The alts were also too obvious cause they added just 1 'E' for the 1st alt and 2 'E' for the 2nd alt account
17:04 rdococ ah
17:05 IhrFussel Plus the only commands these alt sent were protection commands
17:05 IhrFussel alts*
17:05 rdococ jas_: Minetest servers don't tend to be that democratic in all fairness
17:06 rdococ but that's for a number of reasions - it's just a game, you can leave if you want, etc.
17:06 IhrFussel I'm known as "one of the softest server owners in the entire list" so it's a bit funny to be called that
17:08 rubenwardy have you considered that they may be sibling?
17:08 IhrFussel Why would siblings name themselves all the same except adding another 'E' ? And why would the siblings be idle while just 1 account is moving?
17:09 IhrFussel Yes I can track people's movement ingame which is necessary sometimes
17:10 IhrFussel Nothing personal about virtual movement
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17:14 IhrFussel I know that it's very difficult to enforce such a "only 1 account per person" rule, but I try my best... the gameplay on my server would partially break if players could create and use multiple accounts ... since I have a level system and a party system you can maybe guess at least one BIG issue
17:14 jas_ could have them register their account somehow?
17:16 jas_ the bigger issue may be that he had to make more.  is it so hard to get extra space to protect?
17:17 jas_ i see what you mean by the party issue, tho.  i don't know the mechanics, but, sorry to hear that.
17:18 jas_ is it that the player most active receives the most experience points?
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17:35 rud0lf leave easy, die hard
17:39 IhrFussel jas_, all members level a bit when in a party so one could abuse it to push their alts ... each player can have 10 protection with 128x96x128 in size
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17:52 jas_ oh and the protection allowance grows with their level?
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18:48 IcyDiamond how can i make a node always drop two items
18:48 jas_ max_items = 2 ? (i'm not sure)
18:49 IcyDiamond max_items = 2,
18:49 IcyDiamond items = { "elepower_machines:accumulator", "elepower_machines:accumulator_filter", },
18:49 IcyDiamond my drops variable atm
18:49 IcyDiamond still drops itself for some reason
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18:50 jas_ idk, i just remembered this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L5995
18:50 jas_ i think you do items, within items..
18:50 IcyDiamond hmm
18:50 jas_ maybe
18:50 jas_ i never did wrap my head around that
18:51 jas_ it's right up there with digging speeds
18:51 IcyDiamond nope
18:52 IcyDiamond oh wait it's "drop" not "drops"
18:52 IcyDiamond damn you
18:52 jas_ haha
18:52 jas_ i was gonna say do after_dig_node, with a minetest.add_item lol
18:52 IcyDiamond lol
18:53 IcyDiamond items within items doesnt work either
18:54 jas_ rarity=1?
18:55 IcyDiamond nope
18:56 IcyDiamond it just drops nothing
18:57 jas_ got code?
18:57 IcyDiamond drop = {
18:57 IcyDiamond max_items = 2,
18:57 IcyDiamond items = { items = {"elepower_machines:accumulator", "elepower_machines:accumulator_filter"}, rarity = 1, }
18:57 IcyDiamond },
18:58 IcyDiamond the items are valid
18:58 jas_ needs more brackets?
18:58 jas_ i count two in lua_api.txt
18:58 jas_ https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L5998
18:58 IcyDiamond lol
18:59 jas_ ha
19:00 IcyDiamond yeah that did it
19:00 IcyDiamond what a retarded syntax
19:06 jas_ glad you got it to work at least
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19:30 Andrey01 hi, how to know which wall is a node directed to?
19:37 sofar you mean connected nodes from the wall mod?
19:37 MinetestBot sofar: Dec-12 08:39 UTC <paramat> i was wrong to generalise and say inflexible rules are pointless, that was meant to be specific and in context, sorry
19:40 Andrey01 well just which wall the node is attached
19:41 Andrey01 it may be connected with right/left node from this or with forward/back one
19:42 Andrey01 it`s important for me where the node is directed
19:42 sofar there is no way to find out other than to replicate the behavior
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20:18 Fixer *_*
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21:25 bobr ty
21:30 scr267 I was wondering if something like this has ever been tried with Minetest: https://github.com/torch/threads  ?   It's a Lua/LuaJIT thread management API with messaging sync
21:37 Unarelith hmm is StorageRef available only on load time and not on runtime?
21:38 Krock Unarelith: load it on load, use it whenever you want.
21:38 Unarelith oh ok thx
21:42 IcyDiamond minetest could use shader packs
21:42 IcyDiamond i'd love a reflective/refractive water shader
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23:04 bobr how do u compile minetest with level db
23:06 shivajiva with the switch denable_leveldb=1 and alter the world.mt to use it like this backend = leveldb
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23:26 nerzhul @twittermost check

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