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00:01 |
shivajiva |
https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3622966,4.886096,3a,75y,34.49h,86.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sO4CLqzuwhXbKSwN4zl3Dpg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 |
00:05 |
shivajiva |
that was the place, awesome tali and naan cooked fresh in the tandoor |
00:07 |
shivajiva |
surprised to see googlemaps lets you inside the melkweg to look around |
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12:06 |
ANAND |
https://minecraft.net/en-us/article/scripting-api-now-public-beta |
12:11 |
sfan5 |
looks like javascript |
12:12 |
sfan5 |
ew |
12:19 |
rubenwardy |
6 years later, Minecraft is catching up with minetest |
12:19 |
rubenwardy |
Also, that was months ago |
12:21 |
sfan5 |
oh huh |
12:21 |
sfan5 |
guess the scripting api was not that much of a big deal then |
12:27 |
ANAND |
Oh... 6 months old. It just popped up on my Discord frontpage today. o_O |
12:28 |
ANAND |
> But what is scripting API (Application Programming Interface)? Essentially, it's the art of tweaking a game’s insides – writing new commands into Minecraft's texty innards to modify the game. |
12:28 |
ANAND |
lol |
12:41 |
nerzhul |
yeah it's a trivial API |
12:48 |
ChimneySwift |
that's like the biggest oversimplification ever lol |
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18:31 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: nah, forge is as old as minetest |
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18:32 |
rubenwardy |
not official though |
18:32 |
Fixer |
i doubt pipol will rewrite all those awesome mods to some "official" |
18:32 |
rubenwardy |
doesn't count if it's hacked on by some third party |
18:32 |
Fixer |
unless they dump java version, this will cause a huge backlash |
18:32 |
rubenwardy |
they will dump Java version |
18:33 |
Fixer |
minecraft will die then |
18:33 |
rubenwardy |
they will put it into bug fixes only, then eventually stop maintaining it |
18:33 |
rubenwardy |
Minecraft will die then :) |
18:33 |
Fixer |
except pirate version ofc |
18:33 |
Fixer |
HAR HAR |
18:33 |
Fixer |
pirates have everything, all server/client versions, forge, mods etc |
18:33 |
Fixer |
and MS has this microtransaction store, what? |
18:34 |
Fixer |
what was free before now I need to buy>? |
18:34 |
Fixer |
not happening |
18:34 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: MC had amazing mods when we built amazingly shitty cobble structures in minetest in 2011 with no carts |
18:35 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: even without forge, it was moddable as fuck |
18:35 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: you directly inserted mods into JAR |
18:35 |
rubenwardy |
their "mods" are hacks |
18:35 |
rubenwardy |
also, you're thinking way too much of just a funny jab |
18:36 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: yet modding is huuuuuuge compared to minetest |
18:36 |
rubenwardy |
stop pinging me, I'm already here |
18:36 |
rubenwardy |
I was just joking about them finally introduced a modding API 6 years after Minetest |
18:37 |
Fixer |
official api, yes, but nobody caresa |
18:37 |
Fixer |
I'm playing beta 1.7.3 minecraft from 2011 with minimap from 2011 that runs freaking FAST and has tons of features compared to our crippled minishit |
18:38 |
rubenwardy |
why are you here when all you do is complain and post pictures of Minecraft? I don't understand |
18:38 |
Fixer |
i do like those datapacks thing in 1.13 though |
18:39 |
Fixer |
still feeling good about minetest |
18:40 |
Fixer |
the one trully alive and opensource voxel ga.engine |
18:43 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: have you looked into that noscreenshots bug in content tab? |
18:44 |
rubenwardy |
I haven't been able to reproduce it, unfortunately |
18:44 |
rubenwardy |
I wish that Minetest had a screenshot_url[] element just for the main menu |
18:44 |
* rubenwardy |
is spoiled by Picasso on Android |
18:45 |
rubenwardy |
showing an image is as simple as: Picasso.url("https://example.com/screenshot.png").into(image_element) |
18:45 |
rubenwardy |
or smth |
18:46 |
Fixer |
is there way I can debug it? |
18:47 |
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18:47 |
Peppy |
hi |
18:49 |
Peppy |
something strange in my logs today : |
18:49 |
Peppy |
Moving boriska8 to static spawnpoint at (0,15,0) |
18:49 |
Peppy |
Giving initial stuff to player boriska8 |
18:49 |
Peppy |
boriska8 leaves game. List of players: |
18:49 |
Peppy |
but I have no : |
18:49 |
Peppy |
boriska8 [xx.xx.xx.xx] joins game. |
18:51 |
Peppy |
did this already happened on anyone's server ? |
18:53 |
Peppy |
(server is running 0.4.17.1 ) |
18:54 |
Peppy |
nothing in xban.db |
18:55 |
Peppy |
nothing in ipnames.data |
19:03 |
rubenwardy |
are there any mods which add crude oil, petrol, or plastics? |
19:07 |
rubenwardy |
ah, basic_materials, but there's no spawrning |
19:33 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/rubenwardy/oil |
19:50 |
rubenwardy |
Gonna add fun stuff like super flamable liquids |
19:50 |
rubenwardy |
Liquids will catch on fire immediately instead of after a delay |
19:50 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: you make the oil from leaves. |
19:51 |
VanessaE |
there was a crude oil mod some years ago |
19:51 |
rubenwardy |
Heh |
19:51 |
VanessaE |
I think sfan5 made it? |
19:51 |
rubenwardy |
By sfan5 |
19:51 |
rubenwardy |
The link is dead noe |
19:51 |
rubenwardy |
I'd like something more realistic, with more of a process |
19:51 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: missing depends.txt |
19:52 |
rubenwardy |
Depends.txt is deprecated |
19:52 |
VanessaE |
oh |
19:52 |
VanessaE |
meh |
19:52 |
rubenwardy |
Lol |
19:52 |
sfan5 |
my oil mod is so old that you dont even want the code |
19:52 |
rubenwardy |
Lol fair |
19:52 |
VanessaE |
wait a minute.... rubenwardy is using basic_materials?! |
19:52 |
* VanessaE |
falls over |
19:53 |
rubenwardy |
I'm not going to be using it |
19:53 |
rubenwardy |
But it has support for it if the mod is installed standalone |
19:53 |
VanessaE |
good enough :) |
19:54 |
rubenwardy |
I'll add a clear recipe for the leaves -> oil bottle tjing |
19:54 |
rubenwardy |
The mod would act as a more realistic way to get oil when installed standalonr |
19:54 |
rubenwardy |
By standardalone I mean not in my capitalism game |
19:56 |
Fixer |
VanessaE is Debian of Minetest |
19:57 |
VanessaE |
:P |
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20:01 |
rubenwardy |
Who made the textures in basic materials? Just you? |
20:02 |
Fixer |
gear looks wayy too fancy |
20:07 |
rubenwardy |
Does technic have any fractional distillation stuff? |
20:07 |
rubenwardy |
From what I can see, no |
20:21 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: oh, btw, is that pathetic brexit is over or not? I'm puzzled with this soap opera, please notify us when that is finally done |
20:22 |
rubenwardy |
March 2019 |
20:24 |
rubenwardy |
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/364/195/a1c.jpg |
20:26 |
shivajiva |
the pantomime has just begun, if brexit is EU rules with no power the government will be overthrown and you will have to negotiate a new set of terms, you need the 39 billion and we are not likely to pay it if it doesn't yield us what we want, quite simple really |
20:28 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: youth are too blame, they had to vote, instead they spend their already boring time in facebook or whatever |
20:29 |
rubenwardy |
It's more disillusionment |
20:29 |
rubenwardy |
Doesn't apply so much in a referendum though |
20:33 |
shivajiva |
the bankers are not just going to fall into line with the Bundesbank given history, if we don't clear the euro through our banks we don't need Europe telling us what to do anymore, the incentive has been removed at a fundamental level imo |
20:48 |
Fixer |
oh my bar, is that new wikipedia search functionality finally improved, oly hit |
20:49 |
Fixer |
wonder if calinou is yellow something |
20:50 |
Fixer |
or maybe he is not using diesel |
20:52 |
shivajiva |
it's reasonable to assume the institutions that form the backbone of the UK want us out on the basis they let the proletariat vote in the first place |
20:57 |
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20:58 |
* tumeninodes |
starts sketching out a mod for a flamethrower using rubenwardy's flammable liquids |
21:00 |
Calinou |
Fixer: my parents' cars are both diesel now |
21:00 |
Fixer |
kek! |
21:02 |
tumeninodes |
US looooves diesel. Every male within a 2 state vicinity of me has a 4x4, quad-cab, extra super duty, duelly axel, supercharged, diesel pickup truck |
21:02 |
Calinou |
France loves diesel too |
21:03 |
tumeninodes |
nice |
21:04 |
tumeninodes |
used to be the cheapest fuel of all, now is the most expensive (supply and demand) |
21:04 |
Fixer |
everyone uses <2L cars here |
21:04 |
Fixer |
1.6 or so |
21:04 |
Fixer |
non diesel |
21:05 |
Fixer |
diesel for loosers, real people use LPG |
21:06 |
tumeninodes |
only loosers can't spell loser XD |
21:06 |
Fixer |
close enough, you don't need huge 4x4 oversized tracks or whatever |
21:07 |
Fixer |
US is very problematic with fuel saving |
21:07 |
Fixer |
wasting food, water, fuel, everything |
21:07 |
tumeninodes |
it's a trend thing here... and literally everyone in the US is a trend follower, we have a plethora of wanna-be bad-ath bikers too |
21:07 |
tumeninodes |
with pipes you can hear from 5 miles away |
21:07 |
Fixer |
cheap fuel is not helping |
21:08 |
Fixer |
hey, I can take off my car pipe and it will sound as good |
21:08 |
tumeninodes |
I think we should go back to horse n buggy |
21:08 |
tumeninodes |
no... loud cars get tickets and fines |
21:08 |
Fixer |
from WHO? |
21:08 |
tumeninodes |
policia |
21:08 |
Fixer |
pfff |
21:09 |
Fixer |
make it switchable, turn it on when nobody is around |
21:09 |
tumeninodes |
haha |
21:10 |
tumeninodes |
I never understood advertising cars with high horsepower and not to 60 in 2 seconds etc... when there is a speed limit anyway... which most don;t even pay attention too in the first place. nothing makes sense anymore |
21:11 |
tumeninodes |
the human race is a plague/virus |
21:11 |
Fixer |
also, people actually buy new cars |
21:11 |
tumeninodes |
not everyone can afford a new car every 5 years |
21:11 |
Fixer |
buy every 50 years |
21:11 |
VanessaE |
tumeninodes: high horsepower has a legit use even within the speed limit: passing/overtaking on 2-lane bidirectional highways |
21:12 |
VanessaE |
quick 0-60 or quarter-mile is just fun :) |
21:12 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: are your highways 300 km/h or smth |
21:12 |
tumeninodes |
which is about as long as cars are made to ast these days... and emissions parts go sooner and then the car outs out higher polution than cars made before emissions was a thing |
21:12 |
tumeninodes |
well she's in US too so... yes |
21:12 |
Fixer |
even on 1.6L i was amazed how fast it overtook |
21:12 |
tumeninodes |
:P |
21:13 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: of course not, but if you're driving some POS US econbox and need to overtake and you're already close to the speed limit, you need the power to get around the other car quickly. |
21:13 |
Fixer |
also, everyone here is punished hard on anything diesel or >2L |
21:13 |
* Peppy |
wonders if pepper spray is good for environment ? |
21:13 |
tumeninodes |
limit on highways here are 55/65 yet everyone drives 100+ |
21:13 |
Fixer |
km/h? |
21:13 |
VanessaE |
here, 55-60 but people go 70-80. mph |
21:13 |
tumeninodes |
I'm US... mph |
21:14 |
tumeninodes |
only 70/80? that's so slow |
21:14 |
VanessaE |
when you're going those speeds, it's hard to overtake if your car is too anemic. |
21:14 |
VanessaE |
(or heavy) |
21:16 |
tumeninodes |
I had a 1974 ford f-350 with a 460, blown... I could pass a jet fighter with that thing and the front would come off the ground about 2 inches when I would drop it down a gear and punch it |
21:16 |
VanessaE |
tumeninodes: well, here the roads are curvy enough that even 60 is on the edge of unsafe in some areas. |
21:16 |
tumeninodes |
our are too and full of potholes but that don;t slow anyone down haha |
21:17 |
Fixer |
you are sooo spoiled |
21:18 |
tumeninodes |
muahahahaha |
21:18 |
VanessaE |
heh |
21:18 |
tumeninodes |
nah my fast days ended long ago |
21:18 |
tumeninodes |
but I was smart... used to go to the track to go fast not on the public roads |
21:19 |
shivajiva |
:) |
21:19 |
tumeninodes |
but I will confirm (as a US citizen) that the US is full of meatheads |
21:19 |
Fixer |
it is not just us |
21:19 |
tumeninodes |
I know |
21:21 |
rubenwardy |
The US elected a climate change denier as a president, so not surprising |
21:21 |
tumeninodes |
but there are other countries which far outdo the US in regards to waste and polution... yet the world only focuses on the US |
21:21 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: you mean our shithead electoral college did. |
21:22 |
tumeninodes |
he was the lesser of the two evils folks |
21:22 |
benrob0329 |
I have to wonder if the extra exhaust created by diesels is offset by their better efficiency |
21:22 |
Fixer |
stuff like China |
21:22 |
Fixer |
India |
21:22 |
Fixer |
burning coal like crazy |
21:22 |
tumeninodes |
has not been a truly decent pres choice in the US for a few generations |
21:22 |
shivajiva |
'lesser of the 2 evils' hehehe |
21:23 |
VanessaE |
the day someone offers to upgrade my car to EV (either by replacing it or rebuilding it), at a price point I can afford, I'm all over it. |
21:23 |
tumeninodes |
horse n buggy... just sayin |
21:23 |
Fixer |
start walking, people |
21:23 |
Fixer |
nobody is walking in US from what I've heared |
21:23 |
Fixer |
to/from work |
21:23 |
Fixer |
public transport is weak |
21:24 |
VanessaE |
nobody has any way TO walk |
21:24 |
tumeninodes |
does not work so well for those of us not inner city folk |
21:24 |
VanessaE |
you need sidewalks to have somewhere safe to walk on, and a fairly dense metropolis to have somewhere to walk TO in a reasonable timeframe. |
21:24 |
tumeninodes |
^ |
21:25 |
VanessaE |
and yeah, public transport sucks ass here. |
21:25 |
benrob0329 |
^ this tbh |
21:25 |
tumeninodes |
^ |
21:25 |
benrob0329 |
as do our sidewalks |
21:25 |
benrob0329 |
Everyone on my street: "What's a sidewalk?" |
21:25 |
tumeninodes |
I have 0 sidewalks and 0 public transit near me |
21:25 |
Fixer |
lool |
21:26 |
shivajiva |
come to Europe we have great pavements and less space between everything xD |
21:26 |
Fixer |
us is not ready for oil crisis |
21:26 |
tumeninodes |
and a whole lotta crazy 4x4 quadcab suprcharged diesel tricks flying around |
21:26 |
benrob0329 |
if you walk, it would take you at least an hour (if not two) to reach the nearest sidewalk from here |
21:26 |
VanessaE |
where I live, I'd have to walk about 2 miles to the nearest place to shop, all without sidewalks == along the edge of the street, some of which is 45 mph speed limit |
21:27 |
tumeninodes |
and no street lights either |
21:27 |
tumeninodes |
and... we have bears, coyote, fisher cats and other manners of (it's gonna kill you) |
21:27 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: why people don't open shops in your area? |
21:27 |
Fixer |
it is weird to drive 5 km to just ... shop... |
21:28 |
benrob0329 |
tumeninodes, thats what I like about Michigan, we're pretty much the least deadly state |
21:28 |
Fixer |
i """"drive"""" with my feat for about 100 meters to my shop |
21:28 |
Fixer |
feet* |
21:28 |
tumeninodes |
cuz not everywhere wants to turn into a congested shit hole urban environment with air and sound pollution |
21:28 |
shivajiva |
economics probably |
21:29 |
tumeninodes |
benrob, my neighbors are from Michigan |
21:29 |
benrob0329 |
cool, tell them the roads still suck :P |
21:29 |
Fixer |
still too lazy to walk 100 meters... let alone drive 5 km to just buy some bread |
21:29 |
tumeninodes |
The Boston area is a crazy place to live |
21:29 |
tumeninodes |
hahahaha |
21:30 |
benrob0329 |
and that driving in Detroit is still confusing as hell |
21:30 |
Fixer |
suburbs should have their own shops |
21:30 |
tumeninodes |
they know, they go every Summer... last couple years the lakes have been quite low too |
21:30 |
tumeninodes |
Im not in suburb... I am rural |
21:31 |
Fixer |
rural still have shops... |
21:31 |
Fixer |
even in fucking excommie shitholes |
21:31 |
benrob0329 |
the closest town for me is basically a four-way stop |
21:31 |
Fixer |
literally |
21:31 |
tumeninodes |
hahaha |
21:31 |
tumeninodes |
we used to have parades when a car drove by |
21:31 |
Fixer |
maybe some very special village |
21:32 |
Fixer |
religious or smth |
21:32 |
Fixer |
people from 1800 still using steam engines and those oil light bulbs |
21:32 |
tumeninodes |
religion is for the weak minded |
21:32 |
shivajiva |
lol |
21:33 |
tumeninodes |
I should have lived in the 1800s, I would have been happy (maybe), though I might have been Jack the Ripper too, who knows :P |
21:33 |
benrob0329 |
everyone has faith in something, even if its just the forces of the universe holding everything together |
21:33 |
Fixer |
i'm in doubt about electric cars, you need shit-tons of them, and to usem them for much longer time to have any advantage, also, cobalt |
21:33 |
tumeninodes |
whoah there Mason |
21:34 |
benrob0329 |
we should all burn hydrogen :P |
21:34 |
tumeninodes |
elec cars are worse for the env than gas cars, those who will makes all the $$$$ are the ones teling you otherwise |
21:34 |
benrob0329 |
water vapor exhaust :D |
21:34 |
tumeninodes |
horse n buggy |
21:34 |
Fixer |
oil is gonna depleat slolwly with rising costs and people will be forced to use LPG or smth, electric for whealthy only |
21:34 |
Fixer |
slolwly ... |
21:34 |
tumeninodes |
actually... hampsters n buggys would be cool |
21:35 |
Fixer |
people still use horse n buggy in some areas |
21:35 |
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21:35 |
tumeninodes |
yep, Pennsylvania |
21:35 |
benrob0329 |
there are actually books on converting your gas vehicle to hydrogen (splitting water in the tank) |
21:35 |
tumeninodes |
been there... loved it |
21:35 |
VanessaE |
benrob0329: which is a stupid idea. |
21:36 |
* Fixer |
splits water with bare hands |
21:36 |
benrob0329 |
VanessaE, perhaps, but an interesting one nonetheless |
21:36 |
VanessaE |
you'll never get more energy out of burning the hydrogen than you put into the splitting process. |
21:36 |
tumeninodes |
all these pricey alt fuel cars people buy... even though we still have no stable alt fuel and are not even close hahaha "KA-CHING!" |
21:36 |
Fixer |
if scientist don't work on that fusion thing, everyone is fucked |
21:36 |
VanessaE |
better to load up with batteries or fuel cells. |
21:37 |
benrob0329 |
VanessaE, apparently it works, but I've never tested it so I can't say for sure |
21:37 |
tumeninodes |
solar panels manufacturing and disposal are also bad for the env... yet everyone wants them sp they can seem smart |
21:37 |
Fixer |
too much typos for me |
21:38 |
tumeninodes |
I can't help it, my keyboard moved |
21:38 |
VanessaE |
benrob0329: it works, but is impossible to be efficient, so says the laws of thermodynamics. |
21:38 |
tumeninodes |
if someone could make an engine run on bullshit... the world would be all set |
21:38 |
tumeninodes |
:P |
21:38 |
Fixer |
yes |
21:38 |
VanessaE |
tumeninodes: better a "toxic" solar panel sitting in one place, than hydrocarbons getting everywhere |
21:39 |
tumeninodes |
I could just talk for 10 minutes and have a full tank :D |
21:39 |
benrob0329 |
everyone should have a passive-solar heat system and a bicycle |
21:39 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: solar and battery power is expensive as fuuuck |
21:39 |
tumeninodes |
damn hydrocarbons |
21:39 |
Fixer |
i fear when we depleat oil, we move back to coal |
21:39 |
benrob0329 |
or wood fuel |
21:39 |
Fixer |
no wood here |
21:40 |
tumeninodes |
I don't care... it will be my kid's problem hahahaha |
21:40 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: expense does not correlate with environmental impact, only greed. |
21:40 |
Fixer |
exactly |
21:40 |
Fixer |
fuck kids |
21:40 |
Fixer |
let them sort that out |
21:40 |
Fixer |
darwin winks |
21:40 |
tumeninodes |
I'm dying here |
21:40 |
Fixer |
also, we clearly need more wood |
21:41 |
VanessaE |
plant some saplings then :P |
21:41 |
tumeninodes |
kids n buggy |
21:41 |
benrob0329 |
wood is at least a renewable resource |
21:41 |
Fixer |
some parts of europe have very few wood of any kind |
21:41 |
benrob0329 |
and can be converted to a usable fuel outside of burning logs |
21:41 |
tumeninodes |
that's their own fault and their problem |
21:41 |
Fixer |
some areas are literally "no forest" zones due to nature reasons |
21:41 |
Fixer |
too hot and stuff |
21:41 |
benrob0329 |
Fixer, we literally can't keep up with the deadfall in many places |
21:41 |
tumeninodes |
get a diesel fan and suck it up |
21:42 |
Fixer |
saplings go up so slow and meh |
21:42 |
tumeninodes |
nah... 15/20 mintutes |
21:42 |
tumeninodes |
and you can always change the setting |
21:42 |
Fixer |
some trees go nice |
21:42 |
Fixer |
like nuts |
21:42 |
benrob0329 |
iirc some places stopped deadfall removal because deforestation and..welp now we have a very flammable region of the country |
21:42 |
shivajiva |
octane rating of hydrogen isn't sufficient when split from water which is why it's used in fuel cells to power electric motors latterly |
21:43 |
Fixer |
my area has NO natural forests, never had from what i've heared |
21:44 |
Fixer |
places like kazahstan/mongolia/north china feel the pain |
21:44 |
VanessaE |
pleeeeeeenty of trees here |
21:44 |
Fixer |
it is soo coold at winter and no fucking trees |
21:45 |
Fixer |
interestingly britain has few forests or smth |
21:46 |
Fixer |
also, when you travel from no tree zone to tree zone you literally notice trees getting taller |
21:46 |
shivajiva |
the UK was a huge forest, it's just been stripped over time |
21:46 |
Fixer |
https://www.efi.int/sites/default/files/styles/content_fill_w100_x_auto/public/images/maps/forestmap5_50dpi.png?itok=zRqg119o |
21:49 |
shivajiva |
we had to build all those ships to conquer the world remember :) |
21:50 |
Fixer |
someone raped journalist again |
21:50 |
Fixer |
Moon now has black side |
21:51 |
Fixer |
and China have launched the probe to it |
21:52 |
Fixer |
dark side of the minetest-hub |
21:54 |
Fixer |
s/depleat/deplete/ |
21:55 |
Fixer |
english is horrible to learn, german is too |
21:57 |
Fixer |
i'm looking into some 18xx french art books and really sad i can't translate it on the fly or smth |
21:59 |
Fixer |
they look so nice |
22:06 |
Fixer |
Calinou: anything new on FOSS fronts? |
22:06 |
Calinou |
which FOSS fronts? |
22:07 |
Fixer |
Calinou: Open Source fronts |
22:07 |
Fixer |
Calinou: anything new, hip, nonhip, new releases, etc |
22:07 |
Fixer |
also TrueCraft is dead |
22:08 |
Fixer |
Calinou: i remember you had some good stuff, like links to useful programs and such, where are they in 2018? |
22:10 |
Fixer |
------- will kill us all |
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22:17 |
rubenwardy |
Global solar minimum doesn't account for the relatively massive increase in temperature |
22:48 |
benrob0329 |
rubenwardy, they'd tell you that Global Warming doesn't account for the relatively massive decrees in temperature, and increased snowfall (playing devil's advocate) |
23:03 |
tumeninodes |
"Global Warming" changed to "Climate Change" when everyone was getting blizzards and temps dropping 1/2 is true and real, the other 1/2 is BS to scam and rake in the $$$. Those who go to the summits have lifestyles which are the worst of the worst regarding carbon footprint. |
23:04 |
tumeninodes |
and most countries will never meet their goals and will never be penalized for it either, all the cost hits the average consumer, not the wealthy |
23:04 |
rubenwardy |
Global warming is still accurate, it's just misleading for the scientifically illiterate |
23:05 |
tumeninodes |
so basically call anyone who does not 100% agree... illiterate and stupid... I guess that works |
23:08 |
tumeninodes |
It does not matter that most who fully agree do so just to fit in and not look illiterate and are also very gullible, and do not care that all the cost is hitting them but not those who are pushing all the laws and taxes, and flying private jets to the summits and staying in top tech posh hotels etc and driving luxury cars around etc |
23:09 |
tumeninodes |
those same people want to turn the entire globe into one urban environment, making pollution even worse and warming by deforesting the entire planet |
23:10 |
tumeninodes |
and all the world super powers ship all our electronic waste to Africa and China where they literally burn it down for the metals filling the air with toxins, etc... |
23:11 |
tumeninodes |
hypocrisy all around with all this stuff... all it does is make the elite richer each and every day while the poor become poorer and more dumbed down... swallowing any and everything the govts tell them |
23:12 |
tumeninodes |
check into the lifestyles of some of those who attend the GW summits |
23:13 |
tumeninodes |
if they really cared they would live in grass huts and live off the land |
23:13 |
tumeninodes |
and the PC (computer/tech) industry is the biggest contributor to pollution fr exceeding the auto industry now |
23:14 |
tumeninodes |
so we are all guilty and going to hell |
23:14 |
tumeninodes |
*far |
23:15 |
tumeninodes |
so if you're gonna preach about GW, you should chuck all your tech gadgets out the window first and build a hut |
23:15 |
tumeninodes |
afk |
23:15 |
benrob0329 |
that uh, escalated quickly |
23:16 |
tumeninodes |
nah... just truth. |
23:16 |
tumeninodes |
people often think I am angry when I say stuff like that but I'm not :P |
23:16 |
tumeninodes |
I am 50/50 on the subject |
23:17 |
tumeninodes |
I won;t follow either side blindly |
23:17 |
tumeninodes |
there is so much money to be made from both sides, you can't fully trust wither of them |
23:18 |
tumeninodes |
*either |
23:18 |
tumeninodes |
that is why they are so "passionate" about it |
23:19 |
VanessaE |
the earth is warming, humankind is at fault, but I don't think it's anything we can't handle. |
23:26 |
shivajiva |
I'm sure I read an article from NASA that showed all the planets in the solar system were heating up currently |
23:32 |
tumeninodes |
Vanessa, not much we can do about it either... we can do "some" but not enough. Human race is a virus. The Earth has been dying since the day it came to be |
23:32 |
shivajiva |
doesn't look like our emissions help either but it's helpful to be able to separate the 2 causes |
23:34 |
tumeninodes |
but everyone who attends GW summits have a much bigger carbon footprint than I do, but I pay more for mine than they do. Even though I live a measly pathetic existence compared to them |
23:34 |
tumeninodes |
everyone should be accountable... except for them |
23:35 |
shivajiva |
taxes are leveraged on the poorer sections of a society |
23:35 |
shivajiva |
nothing new in that |
23:35 |
tumeninodes |
absolutely.. |
23:36 |
tumeninodes |
and the US has met more of its goals than any other country yet everyone talks about how bad the US is... big bad USA |
23:36 |
tumeninodes |
that scenario goes for other topics as well concerning the US |
23:37 |
tumeninodes |
has met more of its goals regarding GW, takes in more immigrants than any other country, etc., etc... |
23:38 |
shivajiva |
whelp the US sticks it's neck out and manipulates the rest of the world, that's why you are the first to have the finger pointed at, WHO, WBO the list goes on doesn't it? |
23:38 |
tumeninodes |
the East US is going to have it's coldest Winter coming |
23:38 |
shivajiva |
the theft of the gold that instigated fractional monetary on the world |
23:39 |
tumeninodes |
The US also sticks its neck out to protect many others as well... at very little cost to the inhabitants while other nations do not pay their share |
23:39 |
shivajiva |
the list is as long as any other country but you folks do it bigger |
23:39 |
tumeninodes |
well that goes for the good and the bad |
23:40 |
shivajiva |
the world put's it's gold in your safe and you literally steal it and make the world bankrupt, not easy to forget |
23:41 |
tumeninodes |
it's the average citizen of each country that matters to me... Govts are a needed thing but they are all deeply corrupt |
23:41 |
tumeninodes |
but it is not the average US citizen who has done those things |
23:41 |
shivajiva |
but hey it's okay because we have the petro dollar to poison the world with next...some time later... |
23:41 |
shivajiva |
history is amusing |
23:42 |
tumeninodes |
it is |
23:43 |
shivajiva |
the same rip offs over and over, just updated for the times |
23:43 |
tumeninodes |
when peope talk about how the US was built on genocide... and it was... but so was Canada, Mexico, and all other countries in the world |
23:44 |
tumeninodes |
haha... today has been SO off topic... beating are bound to be distributed |
23:45 |
tumeninodes |
and I don;t have any of your gold... just to be clear :P |
23:45 |
shivajiva |
mankind is warped, when does grave robbing become archaeology? Who get's to choose and why :) |
23:46 |
tumeninodes |
the elite and wealthy... because |
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23:47 |
shivajiva |
we have no respect for anything, least of all ourselves for going along with it |
23:47 |
tumeninodes |
archeology mod |
23:47 |
tumeninodes |
well, some do... just that most do not |
23:48 |
tumeninodes |
I don't go along with anything... I get lost on my own path |
23:49 |
tumeninodes |
though I have to admit, as a boy, I wanted to be an archaeologist |
23:50 |
tumeninodes |
It's good if we can actually learn about the past, and people of the past but, it should have been done far more respectfully than it has been throughout history |
23:52 |
shivajiva |
to look for slartibartfasts signature I hope ;) |
23:53 |
tumeninodes |
haha |
23:53 |
tumeninodes |
no... actually smitty werbenjagermanjensen's |
23:54 |
shivajiva |
no spongebob pls :P |
23:54 |
tumeninodes |
awww |
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23:56 |
* tumeninodes |
is making "I want my 0.5.0" t-shirts... on sale soon.... ish |
23:57 |
shivajiva |
shouldn't that be 5.0 |
23:57 |
tumeninodes |
omg... did I really just screw that up? |
23:58 |
tumeninodes |
and ruined my own joke in the process |
23:58 |
* tumeninodes |
is self destructive |
23:58 |
tumeninodes |
any other time I would have typed 5.0 |
23:59 |
shivajiva |
xD |
23:59 |
tumeninodes |
another perfect end to another perfect day :D |
23:59 |
tumeninodes |
I must have had my head in your clouds |