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00:01 shivajiva https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3622966,4.886096,3a,75y,34.49h,86.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sO4CLqzuwhXbKSwN4zl3Dpg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
00:05 shivajiva that was the place, awesome tali and naan cooked fresh in the tandoor
00:07 shivajiva surprised to see googlemaps lets you inside the melkweg to look around
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12:06 ANAND https://minecraft.net/en-us/article/scripting-api-now-public-beta
12:11 sfan5 looks like javascript
12:12 sfan5 ew
12:19 rubenwardy 6 years later, Minecraft is catching up with minetest
12:19 rubenwardy Also, that was months ago
12:21 sfan5 oh huh
12:21 sfan5 guess the scripting api was not that much of a big deal then
12:27 ANAND Oh... 6 months old. It just popped up on my Discord frontpage today. o_O
12:28 ANAND > But what is scripting API (Application Programming Interface)? Essentially, it's the art of tweaking a game’s insides – writing new commands into Minecraft's texty innards to modify the game.
12:28 ANAND lol
12:41 nerzhul yeah it's a trivial API
12:48 ChimneySwift that's like the biggest oversimplification ever lol
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18:31 Fixer rubenwardy: nah, forge is as old as minetest
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18:32 rubenwardy not official though
18:32 Fixer i doubt pipol will rewrite all those awesome mods to some "official"
18:32 rubenwardy doesn't count if it's hacked on by some third party
18:32 Fixer unless they dump java version, this will cause a huge backlash
18:32 rubenwardy they will dump Java version
18:33 Fixer minecraft will die then
18:33 rubenwardy they will put it into bug fixes only, then eventually stop maintaining it
18:33 rubenwardy Minecraft will die then :)
18:33 Fixer except pirate version ofc
18:33 Fixer HAR HAR
18:33 Fixer pirates have everything, all server/client versions, forge, mods etc
18:33 Fixer and MS has this microtransaction store, what?
18:34 Fixer what was free before now I need to buy>?
18:34 Fixer not happening
18:34 Fixer rubenwardy: MC had amazing mods when we built amazingly shitty cobble structures in minetest in 2011 with no carts
18:35 Fixer rubenwardy: even without forge, it was moddable as fuck
18:35 Fixer rubenwardy: you directly inserted mods into JAR
18:35 rubenwardy their "mods" are hacks
18:35 rubenwardy also, you're thinking way too much of just a funny jab
18:36 Fixer rubenwardy: yet modding is huuuuuuge compared to minetest
18:36 rubenwardy stop pinging me, I'm already here
18:36 rubenwardy I was just joking about them finally introduced a modding API 6 years after Minetest
18:37 Fixer official api, yes, but nobody caresa
18:37 Fixer I'm playing beta 1.7.3 minecraft from 2011 with minimap from 2011 that runs freaking FAST and has tons of features compared to our crippled minishit
18:38 rubenwardy why are you here when all you do is complain and post pictures of Minecraft? I don't understand
18:38 Fixer i do like those datapacks thing in 1.13 though
18:39 Fixer still feeling good about minetest
18:40 Fixer the one trully alive and opensource voxel ga.engine
18:43 Fixer rubenwardy: have you looked into that noscreenshots bug in content tab?
18:44 rubenwardy I haven't been able to reproduce it, unfortunately
18:44 rubenwardy I wish that Minetest had a     screenshot_url[]    element just for the main menu
18:44 * rubenwardy is spoiled by Picasso on Android
18:45 rubenwardy showing an image is as simple as:    Picasso.url("https://example.com/screenshot.png").into(image_element)
18:45 rubenwardy or smth
18:46 Fixer is there way I can debug it?
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18:47 Peppy hi
18:49 Peppy something strange in my logs today :
18:49 Peppy Moving boriska8 to static spawnpoint at (0,15,0)
18:49 Peppy Giving initial stuff to player boriska8
18:49 Peppy boriska8 leaves game. List of players:
18:49 Peppy but I have no :
18:49 Peppy boriska8 [xx.xx.xx.xx] joins game.
18:51 Peppy did this already happened on anyone's server ?
18:53 Peppy (server is running 0.4.17.1 )
18:54 Peppy nothing in xban.db
18:55 Peppy nothing in ipnames.data
19:03 rubenwardy are there any mods which add crude oil, petrol, or plastics?
19:07 rubenwardy ah, basic_materials, but there's no spawrning
19:33 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/oil
19:50 rubenwardy Gonna add fun stuff like super flamable liquids
19:50 rubenwardy Liquids will catch on fire immediately instead of after a delay
19:50 VanessaE rubenwardy: you make the oil from leaves.
19:51 VanessaE there was a crude oil mod some years ago
19:51 rubenwardy Heh
19:51 VanessaE I think sfan5 made it?
19:51 rubenwardy By sfan5
19:51 rubenwardy The link is dead noe
19:51 rubenwardy I'd like something more realistic, with more of a process
19:51 VanessaE rubenwardy: missing depends.txt
19:52 rubenwardy Depends.txt is deprecated
19:52 VanessaE oh
19:52 VanessaE meh
19:52 rubenwardy Lol
19:52 sfan5 my oil mod is so old that you dont even want the code
19:52 rubenwardy Lol  fair
19:52 VanessaE wait a minute....  rubenwardy is using basic_materials?!
19:52 * VanessaE falls over
19:53 rubenwardy I'm not going to be using it
19:53 rubenwardy But it has support for it if the mod is installed standalone
19:53 VanessaE good enough :)
19:54 rubenwardy I'll add a clear recipe for the leaves -> oil bottle tjing
19:54 rubenwardy The mod would act as a more realistic way to get oil when installed standalonr
19:54 rubenwardy By standardalone I mean not in my capitalism game
19:56 Fixer VanessaE is Debian of Minetest
19:57 VanessaE :P
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20:01 rubenwardy Who made the textures in basic materials? Just you?
20:02 Fixer gear looks wayy too fancy
20:07 rubenwardy Does technic have any fractional distillation stuff?
20:07 rubenwardy From what I can see, no
20:21 Fixer rubenwardy: oh, btw, is that pathetic brexit is over or not? I'm puzzled with this soap opera, please notify us when that is finally done
20:22 rubenwardy March 2019
20:24 rubenwardy https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/364/195/a1c.jpg
20:26 shivajiva the pantomime has just begun, if brexit is EU rules with no power the government will be overthrown and you will have to negotiate a new set of terms, you need the 39 billion and we are not likely to pay it if it doesn't yield us what we want, quite simple really
20:28 Fixer rubenwardy: youth are too blame, they had to vote, instead they spend their already boring time in facebook or whatever
20:29 rubenwardy It's more disillusionment
20:29 rubenwardy Doesn't apply so much in a referendum though
20:33 shivajiva the bankers are not just going to fall into line with the Bundesbank given history, if we don't clear the euro through our banks we don't need Europe telling us what to do anymore, the incentive has been removed at a fundamental level imo
20:48 Fixer oh my bar, is that new wikipedia search functionality finally improved, oly hit
20:49 Fixer wonder if calinou is yellow something
20:50 Fixer or maybe he is not using diesel
20:52 shivajiva it's reasonable to assume the institutions that form the backbone of the UK want us out on the basis they let the proletariat vote in the first place
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20:58 * tumeninodes starts sketching out a mod for a flamethrower using rubenwardy's flammable liquids
21:00 Calinou Fixer: my parents' cars are both diesel now
21:00 Fixer kek!
21:02 tumeninodes US looooves diesel. Every male within a 2 state vicinity of me has a 4x4, quad-cab, extra super duty, duelly axel, supercharged, diesel pickup truck
21:02 Calinou France loves diesel too
21:03 tumeninodes nice
21:04 tumeninodes used to be the cheapest fuel of all, now is the most expensive (supply and demand)
21:04 Fixer everyone uses <2L cars here
21:04 Fixer 1.6 or so
21:04 Fixer non diesel
21:05 Fixer diesel for loosers, real people use LPG
21:06 tumeninodes only loosers can't spell loser XD
21:06 Fixer close enough, you don't need huge 4x4 oversized tracks or whatever
21:07 Fixer US is very problematic with fuel saving
21:07 Fixer wasting food, water, fuel, everything
21:07 tumeninodes it's a trend thing here... and literally everyone in the US is a trend follower, we have a plethora of wanna-be bad-ath bikers too
21:07 tumeninodes with pipes you can hear from 5 miles away
21:07 Fixer cheap fuel is not helping
21:08 Fixer hey, I can take off my car pipe and it will sound as good
21:08 tumeninodes I think we should go back to horse n buggy
21:08 tumeninodes no... loud cars get tickets and fines
21:08 Fixer from WHO?
21:08 tumeninodes policia
21:08 Fixer pfff
21:09 Fixer make it switchable, turn it on when nobody is around
21:09 tumeninodes haha
21:10 tumeninodes I never understood advertising cars with high horsepower and not to 60 in 2 seconds etc... when there is a speed limit anyway... which most don;t even pay attention too in the first place. nothing makes sense anymore
21:11 tumeninodes the human race is a plague/virus
21:11 Fixer also, people actually buy new cars
21:11 tumeninodes not everyone can afford a new car every 5 years
21:11 Fixer buy every 50 years
21:11 VanessaE tumeninodes: high horsepower has a legit use even within the speed limit: passing/overtaking on 2-lane bidirectional highways
21:12 VanessaE quick 0-60 or quarter-mile is just fun :)
21:12 Fixer VanessaE: are your highways 300 km/h or smth
21:12 tumeninodes which is about as long as cars are made to ast these days... and emissions parts go sooner and then the car outs out higher polution than cars made before emissions was a thing
21:12 tumeninodes well she's in US too so... yes
21:12 Fixer even on 1.6L i was amazed how fast it overtook
21:12 tumeninodes :P
21:13 VanessaE Fixer: of course not, but if you're driving some POS US econbox and need to overtake and you're already close to the speed limit, you need the power to get around the other car quickly.
21:13 Fixer also, everyone here is punished hard on anything diesel or >2L
21:13 * Peppy wonders if pepper spray is good for environment ?
21:13 tumeninodes limit on highways here are 55/65 yet everyone drives 100+
21:13 Fixer km/h?
21:13 VanessaE here, 55-60 but people go 70-80.  mph
21:13 tumeninodes I'm US... mph
21:14 tumeninodes only 70/80? that's so slow
21:14 VanessaE when you're going those speeds, it's hard to overtake if your car is too anemic.
21:14 VanessaE (or heavy)
21:16 tumeninodes I had a 1974 ford f-350 with a 460, blown... I could pass a jet fighter with that thing and the front would come off the ground about 2 inches when I would drop it down a gear and punch it
21:16 VanessaE tumeninodes: well, here the roads are curvy enough that even 60 is on the edge of unsafe in some areas.
21:16 tumeninodes our are too and full of potholes but that don;t slow anyone down haha
21:17 Fixer you are sooo spoiled
21:18 tumeninodes muahahahaha
21:18 VanessaE heh
21:18 tumeninodes nah my fast days ended long ago
21:18 tumeninodes but I was smart... used to go to the track to go fast not on the public roads
21:19 shivajiva :)
21:19 tumeninodes but I will confirm (as a US citizen) that the US is full of meatheads
21:19 Fixer it is not just us
21:19 tumeninodes I know
21:21 rubenwardy The US elected a climate change denier as a president, so not surprising
21:21 tumeninodes but there are other countries which far outdo the US in regards to waste and polution... yet the world only focuses on the US
21:21 VanessaE rubenwardy: you mean our shithead electoral college did.
21:22 tumeninodes he was  the lesser of the two evils folks
21:22 benrob0329 I have to wonder if the extra exhaust created by diesels is offset by their better efficiency
21:22 Fixer stuff like China
21:22 Fixer India
21:22 Fixer burning coal like crazy
21:22 tumeninodes has not been a truly decent pres choice in the US for a few generations
21:22 shivajiva 'lesser of the 2 evils' hehehe
21:23 VanessaE the day someone offers to upgrade my car to EV (either by replacing it or rebuilding it), at a price point I can afford, I'm all over it.
21:23 tumeninodes horse n buggy... just sayin
21:23 Fixer start walking, people
21:23 Fixer nobody is walking in US from what I've heared
21:23 Fixer to/from work
21:23 Fixer public transport is weak
21:24 VanessaE nobody has any way TO walk
21:24 tumeninodes does not work so well for those of us not inner city folk
21:24 VanessaE you need sidewalks to have somewhere safe to walk on, and a fairly dense metropolis to have somewhere to walk TO in a reasonable timeframe.
21:24 tumeninodes ^
21:25 VanessaE and yeah, public transport sucks ass here.
21:25 benrob0329 ^ this tbh
21:25 tumeninodes ^
21:25 benrob0329 as do our sidewalks
21:25 benrob0329 Everyone on my street: "What's a sidewalk?"
21:25 tumeninodes I have 0 sidewalks and 0 public transit near me
21:25 Fixer lool
21:26 shivajiva come to Europe we have great pavements and less space between everything xD
21:26 Fixer us is not ready for oil crisis
21:26 tumeninodes and a whole lotta crazy 4x4 quadcab suprcharged diesel tricks flying around
21:26 benrob0329 if you walk, it would take you at least an hour (if not two) to reach the nearest sidewalk from here
21:26 VanessaE where I live, I'd have to walk about 2 miles to the nearest place to shop, all without sidewalks == along the edge of the street, some of which is 45 mph speed limit
21:27 tumeninodes and no street lights either
21:27 tumeninodes and... we have bears, coyote, fisher cats and other manners of (it's gonna kill you)
21:27 Fixer VanessaE: why people don't open shops in your area?
21:27 Fixer it is weird to drive 5 km to just ... shop...
21:28 benrob0329 tumeninodes, thats what I like about Michigan, we're pretty much the least deadly state
21:28 Fixer i """"drive"""" with my feat for about 100 meters to my shop
21:28 Fixer feet*
21:28 tumeninodes cuz not everywhere wants to turn into a congested shit hole urban environment with air  and sound pollution
21:28 shivajiva economics probably
21:29 tumeninodes benrob, my neighbors are from Michigan
21:29 benrob0329 cool, tell them the roads still suck :P
21:29 Fixer still too lazy to walk 100 meters... let alone drive 5 km to just buy some bread
21:29 tumeninodes The Boston area is a crazy place to live
21:29 tumeninodes hahahaha
21:30 benrob0329 and that driving in Detroit is still confusing as hell
21:30 Fixer suburbs should have their own shops
21:30 tumeninodes they know, they go every Summer... last couple years the lakes have been quite low too
21:30 tumeninodes Im not in suburb... I am rural
21:31 Fixer rural still have shops...
21:31 Fixer even in fucking excommie shitholes
21:31 benrob0329 the closest town for me is basically a four-way stop
21:31 Fixer literally
21:31 tumeninodes hahaha
21:31 tumeninodes we used to have parades when a car drove by
21:31 Fixer maybe some very special village
21:32 Fixer religious or smth
21:32 Fixer people from 1800 still using steam engines and those oil light bulbs
21:32 tumeninodes religion is for the weak minded
21:32 shivajiva lol
21:33 tumeninodes I should have lived in the 1800s, I would have been happy (maybe), though I might have been Jack the Ripper too, who knows :P
21:33 benrob0329 everyone has faith in something, even if its just the forces of the universe holding everything together
21:33 Fixer i'm in doubt about electric cars, you need shit-tons of them, and to usem them for much longer time to have any advantage, also, cobalt
21:33 tumeninodes whoah there Mason
21:34 benrob0329 we should all burn hydrogen :P
21:34 tumeninodes elec cars are worse for the env than gas cars, those who will makes all the $$$$ are the ones teling you otherwise
21:34 benrob0329 water vapor exhaust :D
21:34 tumeninodes horse n buggy
21:34 Fixer oil is gonna depleat slolwly with rising costs and people will be forced to use LPG or smth, electric for whealthy only
21:34 Fixer slolwly ...
21:34 tumeninodes actually... hampsters n buggys would be cool
21:35 Fixer people still use horse n buggy in some areas
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21:35 tumeninodes yep, Pennsylvania
21:35 benrob0329 there are actually books on converting your gas vehicle to hydrogen (splitting water in the tank)
21:35 tumeninodes been there... loved it
21:35 VanessaE benrob0329: which is a stupid idea.
21:36 * Fixer splits water with bare hands
21:36 benrob0329 VanessaE, perhaps, but an interesting one nonetheless
21:36 VanessaE you'll never get more energy out of burning the hydrogen than you put into the splitting process.
21:36 tumeninodes all these pricey alt fuel cars people buy... even though we still have no stable alt fuel and are not even close hahaha "KA-CHING!"
21:36 Fixer if scientist don't work on that fusion thing, everyone is fucked
21:36 VanessaE better to load up with batteries or fuel cells.
21:37 benrob0329 VanessaE, apparently it works, but I've never tested it so I can't say for sure
21:37 tumeninodes solar panels manufacturing and disposal are also bad for the env... yet everyone wants them sp they can seem smart
21:37 Fixer too much typos for me
21:38 tumeninodes I can't help it, my keyboard moved
21:38 VanessaE benrob0329: it works, but is impossible to be efficient, so says the laws of thermodynamics.
21:38 tumeninodes if someone could make an engine run on bullshit... the world would be all set
21:38 tumeninodes :P
21:38 Fixer yes
21:38 VanessaE tumeninodes: better a "toxic" solar panel sitting in one place, than hydrocarbons getting everywhere
21:39 tumeninodes I could just talk for 10 minutes and have a full tank :D
21:39 benrob0329 everyone should have a passive-solar heat system and a bicycle
21:39 Fixer VanessaE: solar and battery power is expensive as fuuuck
21:39 tumeninodes damn hydrocarbons
21:39 Fixer i fear when we depleat oil, we move back to coal
21:39 benrob0329 or wood fuel
21:39 Fixer no wood here
21:40 tumeninodes I don't care... it will be my kid's problem hahahaha
21:40 VanessaE Fixer: expense does not correlate with environmental impact, only greed.
21:40 Fixer exactly
21:40 Fixer fuck kids
21:40 Fixer let them sort that out
21:40 Fixer darwin winks
21:40 tumeninodes I'm dying here
21:40 Fixer also, we clearly need more wood
21:41 VanessaE plant some saplings then :P
21:41 tumeninodes kids n buggy
21:41 benrob0329 wood is at least a renewable resource
21:41 Fixer some parts of europe have very few wood of any kind
21:41 benrob0329 and can be converted to a usable fuel outside of burning logs
21:41 tumeninodes that's their own fault and their problem
21:41 Fixer some areas are literally "no forest" zones due to nature reasons
21:41 Fixer too hot and stuff
21:41 benrob0329 Fixer, we literally can't keep up with the deadfall in many places
21:41 tumeninodes get a diesel fan and suck it up
21:42 Fixer saplings go up so slow and meh
21:42 tumeninodes nah... 15/20 mintutes
21:42 tumeninodes and you can always change the setting
21:42 Fixer some trees go nice
21:42 Fixer like nuts
21:42 benrob0329 iirc some places stopped deadfall removal because deforestation and..welp now we have a very flammable region of the country
21:42 shivajiva octane rating of hydrogen isn't sufficient when split from water which is why it's used in fuel cells to power electric motors latterly
21:43 Fixer my area has NO natural forests, never had from what i've heared
21:44 Fixer places like kazahstan/mongolia/north china feel the pain
21:44 VanessaE pleeeeeeenty of trees here
21:44 Fixer it is soo coold at winter and no fucking trees
21:45 Fixer interestingly britain has few forests or smth
21:46 Fixer also, when you travel from no tree zone to tree zone you literally notice trees getting taller
21:46 shivajiva the UK was a huge forest, it's just been stripped over time
21:46 Fixer https://www.efi.int/sites/default/files/styles/content_fill_w100_x_auto/public/images/maps/forestmap5_50dpi.png?itok=zRqg119o
21:49 shivajiva we had to build all those ships to conquer the world remember :)
21:50 Fixer someone raped journalist again
21:50 Fixer Moon now has black side
21:51 Fixer and China have launched the probe to it
21:52 Fixer dark side of the minetest-hub
21:54 Fixer s/depleat/deplete/
21:55 Fixer english is horrible to learn, german is too
21:57 Fixer i'm looking into some 18xx french art books and really sad i can't translate it on the fly or smth
21:59 Fixer they look so nice
22:06 Fixer Calinou: anything new on FOSS fronts?
22:06 Calinou which FOSS fronts?
22:07 Fixer Calinou: Open Source fronts
22:07 Fixer Calinou: anything new, hip, nonhip, new releases, etc
22:07 Fixer also TrueCraft is dead
22:08 Fixer Calinou: i remember you had some good stuff, like links to useful programs and such, where are they in 2018?
22:10 Fixer ------- will kill us all
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22:17 rubenwardy Global solar minimum doesn't account for the relatively massive increase in temperature
22:48 benrob0329 rubenwardy, they'd tell you that Global Warming doesn't account for the relatively massive decrees in temperature, and increased snowfall (playing devil's advocate)
23:03 tumeninodes "Global Warming" changed to "Climate Change" when everyone was getting blizzards and temps dropping 1/2 is true and real, the other 1/2 is BS to scam and rake in the $$$. Those who go to the summits have lifestyles which are the worst of the worst regarding carbon footprint.
23:04 tumeninodes and most countries will never meet their goals and will never be penalized for it either, all the cost hits the average consumer, not the wealthy
23:04 rubenwardy Global warming is still accurate, it's just misleading for the scientifically illiterate
23:05 tumeninodes so basically call anyone who does not 100% agree... illiterate and stupid... I guess that works
23:08 tumeninodes It does not matter that most who fully agree do so just to fit in and not look illiterate and are also very gullible, and do not care that all the cost is hitting them but not those who are pushing all the laws and taxes, and flying private jets to the summits and staying in top tech posh hotels etc and driving luxury cars around etc
23:09 tumeninodes those same people want to turn the entire globe into one urban environment, making pollution even worse and warming by deforesting the entire planet
23:10 tumeninodes and all the world super powers ship all our electronic waste to Africa and China where they literally burn it down for the metals filling the air with toxins, etc...
23:11 tumeninodes hypocrisy all around with all this stuff... all it does is make the elite richer each and every day while the poor become poorer and more dumbed down... swallowing any and everything the govts tell them
23:12 tumeninodes check into the lifestyles of some of those who attend the GW summits
23:13 tumeninodes if they really cared they would live in grass huts and live off the land
23:13 tumeninodes and the PC (computer/tech) industry is the biggest contributor to pollution fr exceeding the auto industry now
23:14 tumeninodes so we are all guilty and going to hell
23:14 tumeninodes *far
23:15 tumeninodes so if you're gonna preach about GW, you should chuck all your tech gadgets out the window first and build a hut
23:15 tumeninodes afk
23:15 benrob0329 that uh, escalated quickly
23:16 tumeninodes nah... just truth.
23:16 tumeninodes people often think I am angry when I say stuff like that but I'm not :P
23:16 tumeninodes I am 50/50 on the subject
23:17 tumeninodes I won;t follow either side blindly
23:17 tumeninodes there is so much money to be made from both sides, you can't fully trust wither of them
23:18 tumeninodes *either
23:18 tumeninodes that is why they are so "passionate" about it
23:19 VanessaE the earth is warming, humankind is at fault, but I don't think it's anything we can't handle.
23:26 shivajiva I'm sure I read an article from NASA that showed all the planets in the solar system were heating up currently
23:32 tumeninodes Vanessa, not much we can do about it either... we can do "some" but not enough. Human race is a virus. The Earth has been dying since the day it came to be
23:32 shivajiva doesn't look like our emissions help either but it's helpful to be able to separate the 2 causes
23:34 tumeninodes but everyone who attends GW summits have a much bigger carbon footprint than I do, but I pay more for mine than they do. Even though I live a measly pathetic existence compared to them
23:34 tumeninodes everyone should be accountable... except for them
23:35 shivajiva taxes are leveraged on the poorer sections of a society
23:35 shivajiva nothing new in that
23:35 tumeninodes absolutely..
23:36 tumeninodes and the US has met more of its goals than any other country yet everyone talks about how bad the US is... big bad USA
23:36 tumeninodes that scenario goes for other topics as well concerning the US
23:37 tumeninodes has met more of its goals regarding GW, takes in more immigrants than any other country, etc., etc...
23:38 shivajiva whelp the US sticks it's neck out and manipulates the rest of the world, that's why you are the first to have the finger pointed at, WHO, WBO the list goes on doesn't it?
23:38 tumeninodes the East US is going to have it's coldest Winter coming
23:38 shivajiva the theft of the gold that instigated fractional monetary on the world
23:39 tumeninodes The US also sticks its neck out to protect many others as well... at very little cost to the inhabitants while other nations do not pay their share
23:39 shivajiva the list is as long as any other country but you folks do it bigger
23:39 tumeninodes well that goes for the good and the bad
23:40 shivajiva the world put's it's gold in your safe and you literally steal it and make the world bankrupt, not easy to forget
23:41 tumeninodes it's the average citizen of each country that matters to me... Govts are a needed thing but they are all deeply corrupt
23:41 tumeninodes but it is not the average US citizen who has done those things
23:41 shivajiva but hey it's okay because we have the petro dollar to poison the world with next...some time later...
23:41 shivajiva history is amusing
23:42 tumeninodes it is
23:43 shivajiva the same rip offs over and over, just updated for the times
23:43 tumeninodes when peope talk about how the US was built on genocide... and it was... but so was Canada, Mexico, and all other countries in the world
23:44 tumeninodes haha... today has been SO off topic... beating are bound to be distributed
23:45 tumeninodes and I don;t have any of your gold... just to be clear :P
23:45 shivajiva mankind is warped, when does grave robbing become archaeology? Who get's to choose and why :)
23:46 tumeninodes the elite and wealthy... because
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23:47 shivajiva we have no respect for anything, least of all ourselves for going along with it
23:47 tumeninodes archeology mod
23:47 tumeninodes well, some do... just that most do not
23:48 tumeninodes I don't go along with anything... I get lost on my own path
23:49 tumeninodes though I have to admit, as a boy, I wanted to be an archaeologist
23:50 tumeninodes It's good if we can actually learn about the past, and people of the past but, it should have been done far more respectfully than it has been throughout history
23:52 shivajiva to look for slartibartfasts signature I hope ;)
23:53 tumeninodes haha
23:53 tumeninodes no... actually smitty werbenjagermanjensen's
23:54 shivajiva no spongebob pls :P
23:54 tumeninodes awww
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23:56 * tumeninodes is making "I want my 0.5.0" t-shirts... on sale soon.... ish
23:57 shivajiva shouldn't that be 5.0
23:57 tumeninodes omg... did I really just screw that up?
23:58 tumeninodes and ruined my own joke in the process
23:58 * tumeninodes is self destructive
23:58 tumeninodes any other time I would have typed 5.0
23:59 shivajiva xD
23:59 tumeninodes another perfect end to another perfect day :D
23:59 tumeninodes I must have had my head in your clouds

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