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rdococ |
idea 2: electric boogaloo: area protection tied to land certificates - whoever owns the certificate pertaining to that area can interact with it |
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Megaf |
Hi folks |
| 01:20 |
Megaf |
I am working on a new license, it's 100% future proof, the first one of it's kind. What you think? |
| 01:20 |
Megaf |
https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Megaf/a4a131027db7deb612c71556886a300a/raw/1d66832bc5d95ca15c031eac68abeb1f24fc7f94/MGF%2520License%2520V.01%2520Draft |
| 01:20 |
Megaf |
https://gist.github.com/Megaf/a4a131027db7deb612c71556886a300a |
| 01:21 |
Megaf |
and it's comatible with GPL |
| 01:22 |
Megaf |
and WTYL and Beer-ware |
| 01:22 |
Megaf |
Inspited by MIT, Bee-ware and Do The Fuck You Want Licenses. |
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| 01:29 |
Megaf |
v0.2 release |
| 01:29 |
Megaf |
released* |
| 01:30 |
Mr_Pardison |
release notes: spelling corrected |
| 01:32 |
Megaf |
actually the text changed a bit as well |
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* Megaf |
is proud of his creation |
| 01:33 |
rdococ |
my new favorite license |
| 01:33 |
Mr_Pardison |
shall we celebrate with something? |
| 01:33 |
Megaf |
Actually I will change the formating, not very happy with it |
| 01:34 |
Megaf |
Thanks rdococ :) |
| 01:35 |
Megaf |
of course when you use the license you replace Megaf <megaf email.com> with your name and your email |
| 01:39 |
Megaf |
Yep, looks better now |
| 01:46 |
Megaf |
ALrght, still have many mistakens to get ironed out |
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* Mr_Pardison |
hands Megaf an ironing board and an iron |
| 01:53 |
Megaf |
Mr_Pardison: it worked :) |
| 01:54 |
Megaf |
look, wrinkles removed. https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/6201512/45130307-0570aa00-b180-11e8-9c14-cd6fdf03b638.png |
| 01:54 |
Mr_Pardison |
did you use starch? :P |
| 01:54 |
Megaf |
Tho it strached a bit, it was smaller before https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/6201512/45129913-449dfb80-b17e-11e8-9d81-0c2f6d8575b5.png |
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Mr_Pardison |
? |
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xerox123 |
how do you check the value of a digiline channel inside a luac? |
| 12:41 |
xerox123 |
if <channel "tank" = on> then port.a = true |
| 12:45 |
benrob0329 |
xerox123: digilines doesn't work like that |
| 12:45 |
benrob0329 |
Its a message based thing, not power |
| 12:46 |
benrob0329 |
So You'd need to poll the other end, or have the other end send a state message occasionally |
| 12:48 |
ChimneySwift |
the lua controller will fire an event when the digiline state changes iirc |
| 12:48 |
ChimneySwift |
it's in the docs |
| 12:49 |
ChimneySwift |
me seconds has an excellent documentation website |
| 12:49 |
ChimneySwift |
*mesecons |
| 12:51 |
benrob0329 |
ChimneySwift: thats only for mesecon connections |
| 12:52 |
benrob0329 |
Digilines is strictly a message based conductor |
| 12:53 |
ChimneySwift |
yes I'm aware, bot fire events if I'm not mistaken... |
| 12:53 |
ChimneySwift |
I might be completely wrong if so sorry, I can't check rn |
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benrob0329 |
The LuaC will fire an event, but when either a mesecons line powers, or when a digilines line sends a message |
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ChimneySwift |
ah, yeah not state the word is messages yeah |
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xerox123 |
got it working |
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xerox123 |
if event.type == "digiline" then\n if event.channel == "vTank" and event.msg == "contain" then\n port.a = true\n end\n end |
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tenplus1 |
o/ folks :) |
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tenplus1 |
hi Jordach |
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benrob0329 |
Hello tenplus1, Jordach_ |
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tenplus1 |
hi benrob |
| 14:10 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 14:11 |
tenplus1 |
ben bot 3000 |
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benrob0329 |
Ben9000 |
| 14:12 |
benrob0329 |
"I'm sorry Ten, but I'm afraid I can't let you do that." |
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tenplus1 |
ehehe |
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tenplus1 |
wb mister |
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Mr_Pardison |
ty. |
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tenplus1 |
wb |
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tenplus1 |
o/ aerozoic |
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tenplus1 |
hi fussel |
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aerozoic |
hi tenplus1 |
| 15:42 |
IhrFussel |
Hey tenplus1 and others |
| 16:07 |
IhrFussel |
Selling critical privs for ingame money lol... |
| 16:08 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 16:08 |
rubenwardy |
why would you sell it for ingame money when you can sell it for real mone |
| 16:08 |
rubenwardy |
noobs |
| 16:08 |
IhrFussel |
Just need to find an exploit and you will become admin possibly |
| 16:08 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 16:10 |
IhrFussel |
Would you allow such a server on the forums? One that gives privs for real money or one that implements loot boxes? |
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| 16:10 |
rubenwardy |
there's no rule against it |
| 16:10 |
IhrFussel |
I think that would be a horrible idea to provide a platform/service that lets server owners publicly exploit kids |
| 16:11 |
rubenwardy |
loot boxes could be an issue, as gambling |
| 16:11 |
rubenwardy |
what about a server that sells skins? |
| 16:11 |
Mr_Pardison |
what's the base issue we are talking about here? |
| 16:12 |
Mr_Pardison |
*core issue |
| 16:12 |
xerox123 |
selling privs for IRL moneis |
| 16:12 |
IhrFussel |
Most people agree that cosmetics behind paywalls are mostly fine...just that crucial gameplay elements shouldn't be locked |
| 16:12 |
xerox123 |
and would it be allowed on the forums is such server had it |
| 16:12 |
rubenwardy |
also worth noting that the forums isn't the main distribution channel |
| 16:12 |
rubenwardy |
like, main way to find servers |
| 16:13 |
IhrFussel |
No but the main way to promote your server |
| 16:13 |
Mr_Pardison |
selling privs for actual IRL money is basically pay to win and I can't stand that since they just buy the best stuff while those of us who rely on skill work for it. |
| 16:13 |
IhrFussel |
Make it clickbait, suck as many kids in as possible and then sell out |
| 16:14 |
xerox123 |
https://youtu.be/v9EKV2nSU8w |
| 16:14 |
xerox123 |
!title |
| 16:14 |
MinetestBot |
xerox123: The nightmare videos of childrens' YouTube — and what's wrong with the internet today | James Bridle - YouTube |
| 16:15 |
IhrFussel |
Some people are desperate enough to do whatever the admin wants just to get a higher rank |
| 16:15 |
Mr_Pardison |
yeah. |
| 16:15 |
Mr_Pardison |
I'm more the skill and hard work kind of person who doesn't pay for things (esp. since I can't really afford much). |
| 16:15 |
IhrFussel |
That includes sexting and stuff |
| 16:16 |
Mr_Pardison |
you're basically exploiting people which is illegal in most countries. |
| 16:17 |
IhrFussel |
Some probably agreed to sex chats just to get unbanned...it's terrible when you think about it |
| 16:17 |
tenplus1 |
erk |
| 16:18 |
rubenwardy |
that's never been reported, and any such servers would be removed from the list |
| 16:18 |
Mr_Pardison |
the kind of person who would even do that in the first place (the one who offered to get them unbanned in exchange for that) is one that doesn't deserve to have a server much less run one. |
| 16:18 |
IhrFussel |
Or maybe they have to pay some real money to get unbanned...and depending on how popular the server is/how important it is to them they will |
| 16:19 |
IhrFussel |
rubenwardy, With 200+ servers in the list and most of them being "unknown" you never know what happened there in the past |
| 16:20 |
rubenwardy |
stop with the baseless accusations and superiority complex about your server, it's getting boring |
| 16:20 |
sfan5 |
by that logic we also don't know whether such a thing has happened on your server |
| 16:21 |
IhrFussel |
I didn't talk about any specific server... it can happen on ANY server and you are naive beyond believe if you think no server owner EVER did that |
| 16:22 |
IhrFussel |
It could've happened on my server but not myself involved then... could have been done by a MOD who knows really |
| 16:23 |
tenplus1 |
fussel, it does not happen in Xanadu, that I can attest to |
| 16:23 |
tenplus1 |
no-one has ability to grant privs apart from myself, only admin with 'limit' command can revoke them if they breakrules |
| 16:24 |
IhrFussel |
Each server owner needs to decide between reading PMs and breaching privacy or respecting privacy by not reading PMs |
| 16:24 |
tenplus1 |
reading pm's is necessary to keep ppl safe and stop pedo's from talking to kids |
| 16:24 |
tenplus1 |
logging pm's is another story |
| 16:25 |
IhrFussel |
MT logs them by default which makes sense...so that you can also check what happened recently between users |
| 16:26 |
IhrFussel |
I only run a certain script though the PMs once in a while...that script counts "suspicious" contents and if the amount reached a certain threshold I read the PMs by that user |
| 16:27 |
tenplus1 |
keyword flagging is important |
| 16:27 |
IhrFussel |
Yeah but regex is required not just case-insensitive search...pedos are too smart and know how to mask dirty words |
| 16:28 |
tenplus1 |
not so muchdirty words but keywords they could possibly use |
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IhrFussel |
Yes but I mean they can self-censore the words to an extent |
| 16:30 |
tenplus1 |
true |
| 16:30 |
rubenwardy |
hmmm cc1plus: warning: -Wabi won't warn about anything [-Wabi] |
| 16:30 |
IhrFussel |
Recently kids in my chat talked about "smashing" and I first didn't know what they meant... well turns out they just decided on a fake word to use for sex |
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rubenwardy |
that's a pretty common euphemism |
| 16:32 |
IhrFussel |
People in RL say "Let's smash"? |
| 16:32 |
tenplus1 |
lol,there's plenty of ways to say it |
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rubenwardy |
well, no |
| 16:33 |
tenplus1 |
hi paramat |
| 16:33 |
rubenwardy |
it's more often used like "Oh you know Alice and Bob? They smashed the other night" |
| 16:34 |
tenplus1 |
you havent seen some of the weirder meme's then ruben :PP |
| 16:34 |
rubenwardy |
"Eve, unfortunately, was listening" |
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tenplus1 |
ahahaha |
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tenplus1 |
hi Krock |
| 17:07 |
Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
| 17:07 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 17:13 |
tenplus1 |
if a mob is punched in mobs redo with damage_groups = {fleshy=5, fire=1} it will drop cooked items when it dies |
| 17:15 |
Mr_Pardison |
oh cool. |
| 17:15 |
tenplus1 |
so any weapon or punch() with that group will be checked :DDD |
| 17:15 |
tenplus1 |
same with knockback setting |
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tenplus1 |
laters all |
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Fixer |
O,,,,,,,,,O |
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atorian37 |
o/ does anybody know where to change the cost for mesecon (in wich file) in the mod file? |
| 19:29 |
atorian37 |
1 mesecrystal gives 18 mesecons, can i change this somewhere in the mod? |
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VanessaE |
Is there any way to close a formspec that was opened by minetest.show_formspec(), but give the player the node's metadata formspec then? |
| 21:26 |
VanessaE |
I know I can just show_formspec() to get the desired replacement form to show, but then none of its buttons work. I guess because they're normally handled in the node's on_receive_fields callback |
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nerzhul |
interesting lighting work: https://twitter.com/tuxedolabs/status/1037405060379160578 |
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Megaf |
Eh, Shara what have I done |
| 23:19 |
Megaf |
Hi tenplus1 |
| 23:20 |
Megaf |
I made you uncover a dirty whole (there's a good expression for that which I forgot) |
| 23:26 |
Shara |
Megaf, bad things! |
| 23:26 |
Shara |
I stared at engine code and lost a few more braincells :( |
| 23:28 |
Megaf |
Well, I guess is good after all, fixes can come for problem we didnt know we had. |
| 23:28 |
Megaf |
hopefuly no company will ever hire me to find problems, they will bankcorrupt for sure |
| 23:28 |
Megaf |
lol |
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ChimneySwift |
lol |
| 23:32 |
ChimneySwift |
the engine is ridic complex lol |
| 23:34 |
Megaf |
the map limit thing is new |
| 23:34 |
Megaf |
it wasnt there by desing |
| 23:36 |
Shara |
Not that new.. since 0.4.16 at least |
| 23:51 |
Megaf |
for me that's new :P |
| 23:51 |
Megaf |
It was already after I got myself more distant |
