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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2018-03-16

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02:04 Sokomine ups. sorry. my nick was wrong
02:55 rubenwardy PIA has gone open source :D
03:05 paramat PIA?
03:06 rubenwardy private internet access
03:10 paramat i see, found it
03:10 rubenwardy oh, looks like paramat has left MT for another project
03:10 rubenwardy sorry guys
03:12 lumberJ lol
03:12 lumberJ oh well
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03:53 Sokomine anyone got a hint for a box on inside the box?
03:53 * Sokomine stares at rubenwardy
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04:17 rubenwardy don't play that
04:17 rubenwardy got one for CTF though, Sokomine
04:17 rubenwardy "Don't die"
04:21 Sokomine :-)
04:22 Sokomine pvp is about equally worse as parcours :-)
04:23 Sokomine er, equally bad...
07:22 nerzhul rubenwardy, which project ?
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14:16 tenplus1 hi folks
14:16 tenplus1 hey Krock
14:18 Krock hi tenplus1
14:18 tenplus1 o/
14:18 Krock o\
14:19 tenplus1 ehehe, been playing with "Your Dad's BBQ Mod"... nicely done :) so many foody items
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14:35 tenplus1 hi sniper
14:38 tenplus1 would it be worth adding the {food_apple=1} and {food_wheat=1} groups into default ?
14:39 sniper338 ohayo tenplus1
14:39 tenplus1 :P
14:39 Krock tenplus1, that's way too specific
14:40 tenplus1 many new food crafts would find it easier to use food_? groups
14:40 tenplus1 but I suppose they are in default anyhoo so wouldnt really change
14:49 tenplus1 added it to farming_redo instead :D
14:50 lumberJ hey tenplus1
14:51 tenplus1 hi lumberJ
14:52 lumberJ any interest in having foods in farming redo be placeable nodeboxes, rather than just inventory/craft items?
14:52 lumberJ i'm thinking about working on that for my future reboot of my server
14:52 tenplus1 would be a handy feature although this is waht itemframes were originally made for
14:53 lumberJ yeah, but i mean like being able to set it on a table for example and have a 3d nodebox donut, or muffin for example
14:53 lumberJ not just a picture on the wall
14:54 lumberJ anyways i'll show you what i come up with when i get around to it and if you are interested i'll be glad to share :)
14:54 tenplus1 thanks :)
14:54 tenplus1 xanadu has placable muffins already, just not the blueberry one in farming (yet)
14:59 lumberJ ah, cool
14:59 tenplus1 I have permission to use the textures on server, if I can get permission to use them in a mod then I'll add to pie mod :D
15:00 lumberJ nice
15:01 tenplus1 what if all food items had an on_place that would use the inventory image and a flat nodebox to place on any surface ? punching would either pick up or drop as item
15:02 tenplus1 and the one's which have specific nodeboxes like cupcakes and salt shaker etc can use it's own box
15:03 lumberJ yeah i like that action
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15:09 tenplus1 o/
15:11 tenplus1 could have a farming.place_item function that could handle all on_rightclick food items, and it'll check if it's to be placed flat on a table or on a wall for instance
15:12 twoelk o/
15:16 lumberJ in my case i'm mostly interested in having food items as realistic decor for like setting a table or display in a bakery/cafe type build
15:16 twoelk yeeees
15:17 * twoelk looks around and hopes he didn't yell in the wrong channel again
15:17 lumberJ by realistic i mine cubic-realism
15:17 tenplus1 so for things like fruit n cakes a plantlike node would work, but for wheat/barley flat nodes
15:18 lumberJ primarily thinking about finished/edible foods
15:18 tenplus1 that would be nice, but wouldnt having so many food items with many nodeboxes for realism slow down FPS
15:18 twoelk :-(
15:18 twoelk well my gaze does sort of slow down in a backery
15:18 lumberJ hadn't thought about that. cant be worse than having mobs on a server though
15:18 tenplus1 eheheh
15:19 twoelk maybe some stacks of certain items?
15:19 twoelk stacks of bread or crates of carrots
15:20 lumberJ yeah, that would make sense
15:20 lumberJ especially for the more farming/produce oriented items
15:20 tenplus1 yeah, a wooden box for fruit/veg so it can be placed :) much better
15:20 tenplus1 9x9 carrot = box of carrots
15:20 tenplus1 er.. 3x3 even
15:20 lumberJ lol
15:20 lumberJ even
15:22 tenplus1 I like the idea of specific nodes, 2x2 bread = breadbox... etc
15:23 tenplus1 could be made as a separate mod :P
15:23 tenplus1 FoodDecor to go along with HomeDecor :) ehehe
15:27 twoelk would make markets and shops nicer to decorate
15:27 * twoelk still dreams of a nice restaurant mod
15:27 tenplus1 it'll happen :)
15:28 tenplus1 we are slowly getting more weird and wonderful mods, and I mentioned earlier about Grizzly's BBQ mod that was pretty good
15:28 Krock tenplus1, needs more wood for a box. drying out the bread takes too much time to manufacture a solid case for them
15:28 Krock *with them
15:29 lumberJ the more good mods like that the better though. allows more diversity between servers
15:29 tenplus1 yeah :)
15:32 twoelk i once started a restaurant mod and stumbled over the cloth :-P
15:33 tenplus1 -5 HP for bad etiquette :P
15:33 twoelk making tablecloths that fit most tables in mods was more difficult than I thought
15:34 lumberJ did you have the table cloth tucked in you pants when you went to use the restroom?
15:34 tenplus1 lolol
15:38 * twoelk secretly checks his pants
15:43 lumberJ well you also sat on a brownie
15:43 lumberJ :P
15:46 twoelk hrm, can't bend my body to check that anymore, too old for that, or fat     .....   maybe both     .....  sigh
15:47 tenplus1 a new fancy table with tablecloth to be added for fancy eating :P
15:50 lumberJ sounds fancy
15:50 lumberJ be back in a bit, lunch time :)
15:51 tenplus1 nom time :) enjoy
15:55 twoelk mind the cloth though
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15:59 tenplus1 wn sniper
15:59 tenplus1 *b
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16:01 tenplus1 hi mransom
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16:16 Fixer hi
16:18 Fixer hi
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16:19 tenplus1 hi lumidify
16:19 Fixer oops
16:19 tenplus1 o/ fixer
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17:13 tenplus1 hi Gael-de-Sailly
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17:31 tenplus1 hi Peppy
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17:34 Peppy hi tenplus1
17:35 tenplus1 o/
17:41 * sofar hi's everyone
17:41 tenplus1 hi sofar
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17:45 tenplus1 hi Darcidride
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18:06 tenplus1 hi paramat
18:11 tenplus1 bbl
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18:52 tenplus1 back...
18:54 tenplus1 *now
18:56 Shara Hello :)
18:56 tenplus1 hi Shara :)
18:57 tenplus1 what's new ?
18:57 Shara Just worn out from work :P
18:57 tenplus1 erk, least the weekend is here :)
18:58 * Fuchs places Shara on a couch and adds tea and blanket
18:58 tenplus1 ehehe
18:59 Shara Yay
18:59 Shara Tea and blanket sounds nice right now. It's kinda chilly here
18:59 Fuchs it was 12°C here, got myself some ice cream
18:59 Shara Hehe
19:00 tenplus1 if only, 3c here today...
19:00 Fuchs ouch
19:01 Shara Quick look at forcast tells me snow this weekend...
19:01 * tenplus1 stocks up on hot chocolate
19:01 Shara But snow rarely happens here even when forcast :(
19:02 Fuchs next week is going to be colder again as well, probably no more snow though
19:02 celeron55 it's just -16°C here, better get some ice cream
19:03 tenplus1 hi celeron, how about a crepe with ice cream :) hot n cold :D
19:03 Shara Now you all made me want ice cream
19:04 tenplus1 muhahahaha
19:04 celeron55 (my freezer isn't even on, i just put stuff on my balcony if i need to)
19:04 celeron55 just finland things
19:04 tenplus1 hehe, saves you electricity :D
19:05 Fuchs Shara: get some ice cream, then :p
19:07 Shara I think tea is easier :)
19:09 Fuchs ice cream float, with tea.
19:16 * Shara boils kettle
19:17 Shara And I was planning on testing some mods tonight :P
19:18 Krock tenplus1, why is in each scene a figure that shakes the head??
19:18 tenplus1 that's the guy talking to the watchers while he's building it :)
19:22 tenplus1 Farming Redo has been updated, it adds food_? groups to crops AND default apple/brown mushroom
19:35 tenplus1 wb lisac
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19:40 tenplus1 hi Robbie
19:43 RobbieF hey tenplus1 how are you?
19:43 tenplus1 not bad thanks :) how's you ?
19:50 RobbieF very well thanks!
19:50 RobbieF Miss my kids... they've been away for march break
19:50 tenplus1 lucky :) they off anywhere nice ?
19:50 tenplus1 disneyworld!!!!!!!!!!
19:53 lisac hey tenplus1
19:53 tenplus1 hi lisac
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20:15 tenplus1 hi atorian37
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20:30 tenplus1 o/ Jordach
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20:32 Jordach >trying to figure out OS X
20:32 tenplus1 *shudder*
20:32 Jordach i installed it onto a non Apple device without having access to a Mac
20:32 Jordach meanwhile my RX480 worked out of the box
20:33 tenplus1 sweet, time to learn a new Os :P ehehe
20:33 Jordach other than my windows being the new ctrl key
20:34 Jordach (and minor GPU corruption at boot)
20:34 tenplus1 I just upgraded my main desktop to Lubuntu 18.04 beta 1... am getting better speeds on desky now :) and newer nvidia drivers
20:35 Jordach i threw in the kernel extension for RX 480 (and Polaris) series cards
20:35 Jordach it's on a mechanical disk and it's faster than my SATA III Win 10 Edu install
20:35 tenplus1 ati graphics seem to work better for open-source than nvidia  :P
20:35 Jordach they do
20:37 tenplus1 kinda wish nvidia would follow suit and open their blob
20:38 Jordach you should see how much of a twat os x is to nvidia drivers
20:38 tenplus1 shame, would at least give it decent capability for games
20:38 Jordach the MBP has a RX 560 in the damn thing
20:39 Jordach nice keyboard too, as is the Air
20:40 tenplus1 I do like a nice keyboard :D
20:40 Jordach the MBP board is extremely tactile and almost mechanical
20:40 Jordach despite how thin they push inward
20:40 tenplus1 tactile
20:40 Jordach they click
20:40 Jordach they're worse than these Razer switches
20:41 tenplus1 ehehe... so long as they last
20:41 tenplus1 ooh sweet, am getting OpenGL 3.3.0 now :) w00000t!
20:41 Jordach they do if you don't get dust in it
20:41 tenplus1 or half a mars bar
20:41 Jordach dust will kill those butterfly keys
20:42 Jordach the MBairs are far more resiliant (and in my opinion, better overall)
20:42 Jordach not to mention the insane battery life (and magsafe :D)
20:43 tenplus1 how long u getting from battery /
20:43 Jordach i've got a desktop silly tenplus
20:43 Jordach a fully operable hackintosh setup
20:43 tenplus1 oh, thought u had lappy also
20:43 Jordach unusually, nothing is broken
20:44 Jordach my housemate's surface book started being a git
20:44 Jordach the MBPro (£2400 model) has 0 issues since he bought it last week
20:46 tenplus1 until next update :PPPPPP then they will magically appear
20:46 Jordach nah. the iOS and Mac teams are separate
20:47 Jordach https://jordach.net/images/ixgbhvoyodlnzcybk.png
20:48 tenplus1 daww
20:49 tenplus1 did I show you my desky ?
20:50 Jordach no
20:50 tenplus1 https://imgur.com/a/X8rqs
20:50 Jordach currently my soundblaster z has no sound since there's no drivers for it, but my yeti mic does have it out of the box
20:50 Jordach (as does HDMI audio)
20:51 tenplus1 sb should have a default driver it uses for compatibility at least
20:51 Jordach doesn't bother me too much
20:51 Jordach ALC audio is really great apparently
20:52 tenplus1 that's what I have here
21:00 paramat enough offtopic :]
21:00 paramat -> #minetest-chat
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21:01 tenplus1 hi mister
21:01 Mr_Pardison hey
21:14 tenplus1 nite folks
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21:30 Fixer rubenwardy: yet minetest still can;t into z-sorting
21:30 Jordach meanwhile MC's render redo does
21:32 sofar we just need to find some CS interns to do this over the summer
21:32 Jordach inb4 GSoC
21:32 Fixer or celeron over weekend
21:32 sofar forget gsoc
21:33 Jordach feed c55 booze and ideas
21:33 Jordach it's how we got MT
21:33 sofar gsoc is an advertisement scam
21:33 Jordach heh
21:33 Fixer google summer of celeron
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21:48 benrob0329 >booze and ideas
21:49 benrob0329 Is that why the Lua API is so inconsistent?
21:49 * benrob0329 hides
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21:51 sofar how is it inconsistent? aside the troll/joke, I often don't have issues finding stuff or understanding it
21:51 sofar maybe I'm just not seeing the inconsistency you see
21:51 sofar so, enlighten me :)
21:51 Jordach probably the weird way it's handled
21:52 benrob0329 sofar: lua entities normally vs on_step for example
21:52 benrob0329 Its not too bad, just some things are inconsistent
21:53 sofar normally vs on_step? what does that mean?
21:53 sofar #define "some things"
21:53 benrob0329 You have to call..get_properties or something to get the actual object normally
21:54 benrob0329 But in on_step you dont
21:54 sofar because it's part of the object and has a reference to `self`
21:54 sofar that's not inconsistent
21:54 benrob0329 Other things in the object aren't like that iirc
21:54 benrob0329 Only on_step
21:55 sofar nonsense
21:55 sofar https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L4687
21:55 sofar 5 methods, all have `self` as first argument
21:55 sofar entirely consistent with methods
21:55 sofar 6 even, I can't count :)
21:56 benrob0329 Jordach: you've done more with entities than I have, you can probably explain better
22:01 sofar I don't mean to be rude
22:01 sofar I'd love to see maybe a FAQ that explains some of this
22:01 benrob0329 A Lua API FAQ? That'd be nice
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22:19 Jordach there we go
22:19 Jordach SASL setup on the OSX machine
22:20 Fixer benrob0329: maybe you should do booze itself to syncronize with lua API
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