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MTDiscord |
<MikeNight> Is anyone currently investigating this? Can I help with providing logs or debug info? I'm constantly getting "connection timed out" on two devices. https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9107 |
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| 14:12 |
rubenwardy |
Any idea of the best way to get a .tr compatible lang-code in the mainmenu? |
| 14:12 |
rubenwardy |
as in, the current user locale |
| 14:17 |
erle |
rubenwardy what have you tried so far so that we can rule it out? |
| 14:18 |
erle |
and what are you actually trying to do, a language selector? or a locale selector? |
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rubenwardy |
I'm adding support for title and short description translations |
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rubenwardy |
for mods, games, and texture packs |
| 14:22 |
rubenwardy |
I've tried seeing how the client does it, looks like the server sends them the correct translations from the start |
| 14:23 |
erle |
how are you adding it though, can i see? |
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rubenwardy |
found i |
| 14:23 |
rubenwardy |
Client-side translation uses gettext("LANG_CODE"); |
| 14:23 |
erle |
i have a bit of experience with locale code, but not *too* much (see my complains about gettext in really old minetest lol) |
| 14:24 |
erle |
note that language != locale though |
| 14:24 |
erle |
you *probably* don't want locale, only language |
| 14:24 |
erle |
otherwise your numbers may format weirdly, for example. |
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rubenwardy |
I don't mean C locale |
| 14:26 |
rubenwardy |
> In computing, a locale is a set of parameters that defines the user's language, region and any special variant preferences that the user wants to see in their user interface. |
| 14:26 |
rubenwardy |
Specifically I want the user's language here |
| 14:27 |
rubenwardy |
but the context of "the lang code" is "the curren user's locale" |
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sfan5 |
well the thing we have for this is LANG_CODE |
| 14:30 |
sfan5 |
because we termined that there was no way to just ask gettext for it |
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rubenwardy |
does this mean that you can't have a mod translation if there's no engine translation for that lang code? |
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rubenwardy |
the translation system isn't very flexible - it's normal to have a list of preferred languages, rather than just one, and also support generalisation like `en-US` -> `en` for example |
| 14:31 |
rubenwardy |
maybe this isn't such a huge issue |
| 14:31 |
sfan5 |
yes to your question |
| 14:31 |
rubenwardy |
oh wait, you can't select a language if there's no engine translation, let alone LANG_CODE |
| 14:32 |
rubenwardy |
I guess the engine is fairly well translated anyway |
| 14:34 |
rubenwardy |
argh, warr has pointed out that this doesn't work very well for games - as there's no toplevel locale folder, and they may centralise translations |
| 14:34 |
rubenwardy |
so it'll need to check all locale media folders for the translation, and have a key for the textdomain in game.conf |
| 14:35 |
sfan5 |
I don't think the client-side translation system makes sense for this anyway (except maybe for consistency for the game author) |
| 14:36 |
rubenwardy |
consistency is exactly the goal here |
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sfan5 |
I'd just put a description.de, description.fr, description.ko field in the game.conf otherwise |
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rubenwardy |
wouldn't be able to use weblate to automate that |
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sfan5 |
not like weblate can automate .tr without external help can it? |
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rubenwardy |
weblate doesn't support .tr, but some users convert .tr to gettext/json for weblate. And I'd like to support gettext in the future |
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rubenwardy |
see nore's PR |
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nore |
aaaa not enough time, I still need to finish that PR :'( |
| 14:39 |
nore |
hi everyone by the way :) |
| 14:40 |
rubenwardy |
also, there's an argument that maybe a .json format could be worth using instead if gettext is that complex to parse. Weblate supports a few of them |
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rubenwardy |
consistency with engine translation would be nice though |
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nore |
well, gettext is not *that* complex to parse |
| 14:41 |
nore |
also, .mo files have the advantage of being quite compact |
| 15:49 |
erle |
most important for mod authors is having something easy to author |
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erle |
so matching other translations is a good thing |
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rubenwardy |
#12208 |
| 15:58 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/12208 -- Add support for translating content titles and descriptions by rubenwardy |
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erle |
rubenwardy does LANG have to be an ISO-639-1 code? |
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erle |
i mean, i already have translation files for de, ru, fr, es … but i wonder now |
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rubenwardy |
I don't know what standard it uses, but it's the same as engine translations |
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rubenwardy |
And there needs to be a matching engine translation to translate a mod into that language |
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