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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> As you get into the pre 5.0 GCC era and especially those distributions using them, you get into really inconsistent experiences |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> I live and breathe that era at work and I hate it. |
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luk3yx |
Can https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8316 please be reconsidered? It was closed about one and a half years ago due to a lack of core dev support. I originally sent this in #minetest but wsor thinks it might be more appropriate here. |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> ^agree on re opening it. additionally it might be benifical to allow certain entities to be hidden, but i think? there is another issue for that |
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Pexin |
so if I'm near an invis player, I see nodes appearing/disappearing with no explanation, which seems likely to be used for griefing public mining areas. also how does this affect pvp? |
| 03:18 |
Pexin |
example of griefing: the floor disappears from under me |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> it will only be able to be used for griefing if some mod is dumb enough to allow normal users to use it uncontrolled |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> not to mention there are logs |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> so i fail to see how that is a valid concern at all |
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Pexin |
I guess I misunderstood the use case |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> i believe? luk3yx main use case is for the cloaking mod |
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erlehmann |
regarding https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8316 i can confirm that invisibility potion is useless againnst hacked clients |
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nrz |
logical if the player is sent to client |
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rubenwardy |
Is there a size limit to mod names? |
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sfan5 |
probably not |
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sfan5 |
you'll want to keep the name shorter than 256 (+ safety space) to avoid filesystem issues |
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rubenwardy |
ContentDB uses a VARCHAR(100) for mod names |
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rubenwardy |
The mod storage sqlite PR uses TEXT |
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erlehmann |
minetest has no problems with a mod.conf having a name that contains 32767 times the letter x |
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erlehmann |
rubenwardy, what is the longest name in contentdb? i am curious |
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rubenwardy |
moremesecons_adjustable_player_detector | 39 |
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erlehmann |
ah, that is the filename. i meant the display name. |
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rubenwardy |
that is the longest name |
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erlehmann |
but for mod storage purposes, the filename is prob the primary key? |
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rubenwardy |
mods have a technical name, it's usually also the directory name but it's set by mod.conf name |
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erlehmann |
juuuuuuuuust a small question, is the “move mod storage sqlite PR” backwards compatible? i am asking for a bunch of servers that have portal target coordinates in mod storage. |
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rubenwardy |
there's also a human-readable title which doesn't need to unique |
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rubenwardy |
It's the same as any other backend. You can migrate between them, and files will still work |
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erlehmann |
what does contentdb use for the human-readable title? |
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erlehmann |
ah, good |
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rubenwardy |
VARCHAR(100) |
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rubenwardy |
well, ContentDB actually uses UNICODE(100) |
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rubenwardy |
but same thing |
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erlehmann |
so what exactly happens if the human readable title is longer than that? it gets cut off? |
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rubenwardy |
the form submission fails |
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rubenwardy |
with an error |
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erlehmann |
sounds good |
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sfan5 |
do you have your charset set correctly for emoji to work |
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rubenwardy |
I have tested that emoji works |
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rubenwardy |
oh, in the length count? |
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rubenwardy |
no idea |
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rubenwardy |
I use wtfform validation for that |
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sfan5 |
no not that |
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sfan5 |
the default mysql/mariadb charset calls itself unicode but only handles codepoints until U+10000 |
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sfan5 |
which doesn't include emoji |
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rubenwardy |
the ORM I use calls it `db.Unicode` |
| 17:20 |
rubenwardy |
using `information_schema`, it looks like postgresql is using "charecter varying" |
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sfan5 |
oh, postgres |
| 17:21 |
sfan5 |
that's fine |
| 17:23 |
erlehmann |
yeah, the mysql equivalent to java “unicode is two bytes” is “unicode is three bytes” |
| 17:24 |
rubenwardy |
unicode is ? |
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erlehmann |
rubenwardy, for test purposes: http://news.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/bin/unicode |
| 17:25 |
erlehmann |
; unicode 1f300-1f304 |
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erlehmann |
1F300 ?1F301 ?1F302 ?1F303 ?1F304 ? |
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erlehmann |
etc. |
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kilbith_ |
I'm not happy with inventory lists being just plain 2D rectangles; for a modern UI, they should be skinable such as image buttons |
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kilbith_ |
but this is easy to change that |
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kilbith_ |
and such as the scrollbars, properties like `listcolors` must be migrated into style[] |
| 21:19 |
kilbith_ |
lots of inconsistencies in this API |
| 21:24 |
MTDiscord |
<Sublayer plank> there's ways to simulate list cell images, but it would still be pretty cool to have official support in the engine for it |
| 21:27 |
kilbith_ |
yes but you cannot emulate hovering and pressing for lists |
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kilbith_ |
for textures that is |
