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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2021-11-01

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00:01 rubenwardy sfan5: #10429
00:01 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/10429 -- add integration test skeleton by BuckarooBanzay
00:01 rubenwardy runs devtest integ tests
00:02 sfan5 I don't remember looking at this PR
00:02 sfan5 must've done it in my sleep
00:02 rubenwardy oh snap
00:02 rubenwardy re: label
00:02 rubenwardy oh, it's only taken yours
00:03 rubenwardy s/snap/ninjad
00:06 rubenwardy we're so close to <100
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00:26 rubenwardy #10166 looks useful
00:26 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/10166 -- Unittest/collision by scrain777
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01:01 rubenwardy RE: unnecessary errors in https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/11495#discussion_r739882111
01:01 rubenwardy they were introduced in 2011 by kahrl: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/63266928a5e2b6f4b712695eb56cb1de3899ba21
01:01 rubenwardy commit isn't very helpful
01:03 rubenwardy those functions are set directly from `new XSceneNodes`, so should never be null
01:04 rubenwardy looks like Camera::successfullyCreated should just be deleted
01:04 rubenwardy celeron55_: any idea why this was done?
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01:11 rubenwardy (S/directly/indirectly.    m_somethingnode = smgr->addSomethingNode(), all of which return new SomethingSceneNode)
02:08 MTDiscord <exe_virus> What would it take to have more camera control? Roll, locking a players viewpoint, etc?
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09:09 celeron55_ rubenwardy: no idea, seems really weird indeed
09:10 celeron55_ i'm sure nobody has ever seen any of those errors
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12:17 rubenwardy merging #11495 in 10
12:17 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/11495 -- Localize error messages in mainmenu by snowyu
12:17 sfan5 ten what
12:18 rubenwardy (actual_merge_time / now()) / 10
12:18 rubenwardy *    (actual_merge_time - now()) / 10
12:19 * rubenwardy looks up what the actual rules are
12:19 sfan5 🤔
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14:54 rubenwardy weird bug: for some reason, pressing Super L causes F1 to be received by Minetest and X11 xev
14:54 rubenwardy perhaps a hardware issue. Although, doesn't happen in Firefox
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16:42 MTDiscord <luatic> Minetest controls are very weird: Only some can be pressed at the same time.
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17:03 sfan5 that's a recent change
17:03 sfan5 I noted it while reviewing the PR but it was considered not a problem
17:04 rubenwardy RE: lunatic?
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17:19 MTDiscord <luatic> It was considered not a problem!?
17:21 MTDiscord <luatic> The problem is that it's absolutely random as far as I can tell: Try pressing W / forward, shift / sneak and C / camera, it'll work. Now press W / forward, E / aux and C / camera - the camera doesn't change. Why is that?
17:21 MTDiscord <luatic> Most likely it's the tip of the input handling issue iceberg.
17:29 sfan5 I was talking about the fact that you cannot press contradictory direction keys anymore
17:29 sfan5 you appear to have found a bug
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17:40 v-rob luatic: are you sure that's just not the keyboard? Most keyboards have an issue where it may not register all simultaneously pressed keys because of the underlying electronics.
17:42 v-rob Just tested: on my keyboard, W+Shift+C registers all keys, but W+E+C doesn't register C. Tested using random JavaScript thing I looked up and found: https://jsfiddle.net/HwR9N/3/
17:42 v-rob That would imply that it's not a Minetest bug at all, but normal keyboard behaviour
17:43 sfan5 oh of course
17:43 sfan5 I have a gaming keyboard so that works for me
17:51 MTDiscord <luatic> v-rob: Whoa, didn't know that was a thing. You seem to be right.
17:54 sfan5 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollover_(key)#Key_jamming_and_ghosting
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20:57 MTDiscord <exe_virus> Sdl input when?
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22:38 v-rob "Sdl input when?" As soon as possible, I say
22:38 v-rob I have no end to the list of benefits.
22:39 v-rob And I still believe it's possible to make a slow transition instead of all at once.
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