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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2018-09-18

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17:59 paramat hm so many of the blockers for release are android issues or PRs. it seems to take up a disproportionate amount of time and effort
18:00 paramat but it seems we should at least get it working for release
18:03 paramat any more thoughts on #7569 ?
18:03 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7569 -- Send custom floats (log2) by SmallJoker
18:07 paramat also #7395 will need processing before release, i intend to test that
18:07 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7395 -- Add Lua methods 'set_rotation()' and 'get_rotation()' by CoderForTheBetter
18:08 paramat nerzhul if you can look at #7483 sometime that would be great, just needs 1 more approval
18:08 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7483 -- Move touchscreen input handling to base GUIModalMenu class by stujones11
18:35 nerzhul paramat i open the tab
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19:17 paramat thanks for reviewing
19:24 paramat although the author is not very happy :3
19:26 paramat *sigh* i know we probably shouldn't but it would be a relief to completely drop android support =/ maybe we can't fix it before 5.0.0
19:26 paramat although that would be rather embarassing
19:27 paramat we also need to deal with #7525 and #7672
19:27 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7525 -- GL_INVALID_ENUM on Android
19:27 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7672 -- Android App crashes on start with `SettingNotFoundException: Setting [TMPFolder] not found.`
19:33 paramat well, i'm going to remove 'blocker' from all android issues and PRs. maybe they'll get fixed but i don't think it's worth them delaying a release, otherwise it will be many months
19:34 VanessaE um
19:34 paramat and dev is too slow
19:34 VanessaE bad idea...
19:35 VanessaE 75% of MT players are on mobiles...
19:37 rubenwardy no
19:37 paramat i know :)
19:37 rubenwardy don't do that
19:38 rubenwardy well
19:38 rubenwardy remove the less important ones
19:38 rubenwardy but not the big crashes and such
19:38 rubenwardy *at most remove
19:38 Shara Should just assess whether a thing really is a blocker to a release or not
19:38 rubenwardy although this is a release to get right on mobile :)
19:38 paramat well we either need to attend to them or not let them block
19:38 rubenwardy yeah
19:38 Shara Some of those android issues seem pretty bad...
19:39 paramat they can still be labelled high priority
19:39 Shara paramat: if they are serious issues, they should still be blockers
19:40 paramat i want android fixed for 5.0.0 too but at this dev rate it will be a struggle to attend to just the non-android blockers
19:40 paramat well, i sort of agree with you but ..
19:42 Shara paramat: seriously #7122 should be a blocker
19:42 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7122 -- Android: confirmation dialog is... unreable and crashes
19:42 Shara That's a new feature for 5.0 (a terrible one in my opinion but whatever) and will stop android users knowing how to join servers
19:42 paramat ok, i'll let others add the labels and won't argue
19:45 paramat however, we need core devs to actually attend to these issues, i would do it if i was able but much of this android stuff is beyond my expertise :/
19:46 Shara Then in the case of 7122, if it can't be fixed, the "feature" needs to be removed, at least for android
19:47 paramat if core dev time is near-zero then that can't block a release only due to android. very few use the official app and it's always very broken anyway, so i can't see much loss, hmmm
19:49 Shara I guess it's another release with more new bugs for lots of users then.
19:52 paramat well, hopefully not, i hope they get attended to
19:52 VanessaE paramat: why's dev so slow lately?
19:53 paramat ok, i'll re-add the blocker labels =s
19:53 paramat lol
19:53 VanessaE "at this dev rate" implies that you think things are going too slow..
19:54 paramat it's got nothing to do with me, ask the others :)
19:55 paramat apart from krock who is my hero
19:57 VanessaE I was probing for your opinion :)
19:59 paramat no idea, i guess people are busy, understandable
19:59 paramat blocker labels re-added, you were right, i was just irritated
20:01 paramat also Shara has been active recently i must add, much appreciated
20:19 rubenwardy having both blocker and high priority is silly
20:19 rubenwardy blocker is a priority above high priority
20:19 sfan5 supposedly blocker issues are ones that definitely need to be solved
20:19 sfan5 the same often (if not always) applies to high prio issues too
20:24 paramat hm
20:25 paramat it seems the distinction makes some sense, in that we need a label for something that specifically must be done before a release, that is not necessarily identical to high priority. but i see what you mean
20:26 paramat for example, particle performance is high priority but doesn't need fixing before release
20:28 paramat oh but, blocker obviously means high prioriy, yeah :3
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21:15 rubenwardy oh nice!
21:15 rubenwardy 2 new GH feature on a comment:
21:15 rubenwardy the ability to quote it
21:15 paramat actually, no, because of results when filtering by 'high priority' =s
21:15 rubenwardy and the ability to open a new issue with its contents
21:15 rubenwardy is there an inclusive OR?
21:16 rubenwardy really this should be a field
21:16 rubenwardy rather than a label
21:16 paramat oh yeah
21:16 rubenwardy it would have a numeric value then, and you could do "high priority or above"
21:16 rubenwardy but alias
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