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CoderForTheBett1 |
@nerzhul, have a second to answer a question I have about my Lua 'set_rotation()' and 'get_rotation' PR? Should I keep getYaw() instead of replacing with getRotation.Y in areas like https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/7395/files#diff-27330fe8b12f281b2b6d288458912306L138 |
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CoderForTheBett1 |
I'm thinking of changing it back to make it more clear |
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paramat |
nerz will be asleep currently (France), he tends to leave his username not marked away overnight |
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paramat |
maybe i'll consider this myself too |
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CoderForTheBett1 |
Dang, thanks for letting me know. Yeah if you, or anyone else, wants to chime in please do |
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nerzhul |
oh yeah my IRC custom client doesn't make me afk but it's not a problem heh |
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celeron55 |
>Your project needs to use a standard open source license and must be non-commercial. |
| 08:24 |
celeron55 |
>Your project should not have paid support or pay contributors. |
| 08:24 |
celeron55 |
this is quite vague |
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celeron55 |
(about the gitlab gold for OSS that nerzhul mentioned) |
| 08:32 |
nerzhul |
we don't pay our contributors and we don't provide paid support, we are eligible |
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nerzhul |
forks are not eligible |
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nerzhul |
merging #7411 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7411 -- CSM/SSM: Add on_mods_loaded callback by nerzhul |
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Krock |
nerzhul, regarding #7410 I'd like to see more dev opinions before we re-structure the entire thing |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7410 -- Modernize lua read (part 2): C++ templating assurance by nerzhul |
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Krock |
s/structure/design/ |
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Krock |
Merging #7417 in 10 minutes |
| 12:21 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7417 -- Stop autoforward on BACKWARD key-press (if autoforward is active) by tukkek |
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Krock |
Merging.. |
| 12:38 |
nerzhul |
Krock as you want, maybe add a point on a meeting |
| 12:38 |
Krock |
indeed, will set up a new discussion soon |
| 12:40 |
nerzhul |
the general idea is to make our Lua API implementation a little bit high level to renforce it and make it more durable and easier to use without performance pernalty |
| 12:41 |
nerzhul |
(it's the global idea, if i'm not there at the meeting like often :) ) |
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rubenwardy |
Callbacks are a bit fucked currently |
| 12:50 |
rubenwardy |
Especially anything to do with node actions |
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nerzhul |
rubenwardy, if you answer to my message it's not related to callbacks |
| 13:00 |
rubenwardy |
No, you're talking about making the API nicer |
| 13:01 |
sfan5 |
>Will there be a 0.4.18 release? |
| 13:01 |
sfan5 |
i thought we had that already |
| 13:03 |
Krock |
yes, but to clarify because paramat would like to have one |
| 13:03 |
Krock |
to finally have that discussed |
| 13:04 |
Krock |
or there was already this topic and a final conclusion but I couldn't find any IRC logs whether that happened |
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JDCodeIt |
I see pipeworks made the leap to GitLab. Is there a plan for MT to migrate? |
| 13:36 |
Krock |
open the issue tracker. first page. |
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rubenwardy |
That's by Vanessa |
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rubenwardy |
She's independent |
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VanessaE |
yeah, not exactly on-topic for here :) |
| 13:49 |
VanessaE |
besides, it's more nore's mod than mine :P |
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nerzhul |
omg sqlite 3.24 released with upserts, nice :) |
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nerzhul |
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=SQLite-3.24-Released-UPSERT |
| 14:55 |
nerzhul |
for the 0.4.18 it don't think it's needed if we just define a 0.5 release in 1 or 2 months, with 3 weeks of feature freeze |
| 14:56 |
nerzhul |
(as it's a big release 3 weeks should be sufficient and necessary) |
| 14:56 |
nerzhul |
and as i already said, 0.5.0 cannot be a perfect release, like any other software |
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rubenwardy |
What's your opinion on adding encryption to the protocol? |
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rubenwardy |
As that's a network breaking change |
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Fixer |
as usual https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22One+approval%22 |
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nerzhul |
rubenwardy, useless as the only sensitive information is the password, which uses SRP |
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rubenwardy |
Injection of csms though |
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nerzhul |
you mean injecting rogue mods during loading phasis ? |
| 17:08 |
nerzhul |
the current protocol cannot be easily encrypted |
| 17:08 |
nerzhul |
and also it will slow down reassembly process |
| 17:08 |
nerzhul |
also unreliable packets like movement should not be encrypted because latency is highly important |
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rubenwardy |
May be worth commenting this in that thread |
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Krock |
Updated the discussion with the two reported issues of 0.4.17 to probably do a bugfix-bugfix release 8) https://github.com/orgs/minetest/teams/engine/discussions/11 |
| 19:56 |
Krock |
Maybe further issues will be reported in the next few days - hopefully not, but it's hard to see whether all bugfixes were backported actually |
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VanessaE |
inb4 "crap, that/0.4.14.1 wasn't enough, here comes 0.4.14.2" ;) |
| 19:58 |
rubenwardy |
drop the 0. |
| 19:58 |
rubenwardy |
s/0.5.0/2.0.0/g |
| 19:59 |
nerzhul |
why 2 and not 1 ? |
| 19:59 |
Krock |
s/2.0.0/2.0-dev/ |
| 19:59 |
rubenwardy |
if we were using semvar, 1.0.0 would be around 0.4.1 |
| 19:59 |
rubenwardy |
and 0.5.0 would be 2.0.0 |
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rubenwardy |
lol |
| 20:00 |
rubenwardy |
mainly because I dislike releasing a 1.0.0 because of the implication |
| 20:00 |
rubenwardy |
the implication |
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nerzhul |
2.0 means rewrite the 1.0 :p |
| 20:04 |
rubenwardy |
I'm willing to compromise and go for 1.0.0 though |
| 20:04 |
rubenwardy |
although |
| 20:04 |
rubenwardy |
let's not do this discussion again |
| 20:04 |
nerzhul |
i don't care , for me it's 0.5 :p |
| 20:05 |
Krock |
says the one who started it <.< |
| 20:05 |
nerzhul |
at least we should define a 0.5 release & freeze at a point |
| 20:05 |
nerzhul |
.1 and more are allowed :) |
| 20:05 |
Krock |
nerzhul, it's not ready. there are plenty of crashes. with these it's yet not possible to set a date |
| 20:06 |
nerzhul |
freeze, fix the crashes when ready release ? |
| 20:06 |
Krock |
counter question: then why not fix them and merge like any regular PR to include more features? |
| 20:07 |
nerzhul |
do you think the release miss some features ? :p |
| 20:07 |
nerzhul |
i never see a such release on MT since 4 years :) |
| 20:08 |
Krock |
honestly I have no idea which circumstances cause these crashes to happen and that's what worries me what the release actually could delay |
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nerzhul |
do you get a backtrace somewhere ? |
| 20:16 |
Krock |
#7272 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7272 -- Occasional crash on shutdown / other reported crashes |
| 20:16 |
Krock |
so yes, backtrace is available. |
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nerzhul |
wow so many crashed on shutdown |
| 20:27 |
nerzhul |
does other coredevs continues to add unittests when regression are fixed or new features ? |
| 20:27 |
nerzhul |
it's one way to prevent those crashed, by ensuring code quality |
| 20:27 |
Krock |
the itemstack meta crash seems familiar to what I observed in older Minetest versions already, so that's most likely not caused by any recent commits |
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