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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2018-05-19

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01:52 paramat game#2128
01:52 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/2128 -- TNT: Raise cost of TNT by adding a TNT stick crafting stage by paramat
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14:39 Krock so, 0.4.17-dev seems to compile with C++03 now - at least mostly
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14:43 Krock however, the Win32/64 and OS X build scripts are currently broken: https://travis-ci.org/minetest/minetest/builds/381081541
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15:13 nerzhul Krock nice job
15:13 nerzhul Krock i think sfan5 removed the blob from its server
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15:20 rubenwardy please may you look into the clang-tidy job at some point? As our resident CI expert
15:21 rubenwardy it fails randomly. Even if it's travis being unreliable (Which I doubt) there's probably a work around
15:21 rubenwardy if not, then it should be removed as the build failing randomly is more damaging than the lints it gives
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15:28 nerzhul it failed randomly due to some travis instability sometimes
15:28 nerzhul but if you show me a job maybe i can verify there is no problem in the CI step
15:29 rubenwardy see my reorder PR
15:29 rubenwardy not sure if that's because the steps are actually dependent
15:30 nerzhul which steps ?
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15:46 Krock nerzhul, when would the best meeting time be for you?
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16:25 paramat Krock nerzhul nore rubenwardy sfan5 Shara sofar meeting in 35 mins? or would 1h35mins be better for anyone?
16:25 Krock both fine
16:26 paramat i'm here from now on
16:26 rubenwardy here
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17:02 Krock paramat, probably wait an hour - in hope a few more devs will be online then
17:03 paramat yeah
17:03 paramat should be better for nerzhul
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17:35 paramat will merge game#2130 in 15mins
17:35 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/2130 -- Kelp: Add 'paramtype = light' to avoid black plantlike extension by paramat
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17:56 paramat merging
17:57 paramat done
17:59 Krock nerzhul, paramat, rubenwardy, sfan5, Shara, sofar: Meeting starts in a minute. Again the same link as last time: https://github.com/orgs/minetest/teams/engine/discussions/10
18:02 Krock Okay - 0.4.17 again. What's left over to do?
18:04 Krock The majority of builds work - the other are failing due to missing files (even the GitLab pipeline seems to struggle)
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18:08 paramat the failed builds seem to be due to travis errors
18:09 Krock exactly. compiling works in theory but our services fail
18:09 paramat failed connection to 'minetest.kitsunemimi.pw'
18:10 Krock this means that either our build script is outdated or sfan5 deleted the required files
18:10 paramat and 1 build fails with '/Users/travis/.travis/job_stages: line 166: shell_session_update: command not found'
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18:11 paramat but it seems c++03 changes are done?
18:12 paramat did c++11 stuff creep in accidently or were we planning to have 0.4.17 as c++11?
18:13 Krock it's stuff that was backported from our C++11 master branch
18:14 paramat seems accidental then,
18:14 Krock and nerzhul is against bumping it to C++11 in order to keep it bugfix-only and harder to backport more advanced features
18:15 paramat but i guess mainly it's so android 0.4.17 works
18:17 paramat lets see what we can do over the weekend, but hopefully freeze within the next week
18:18 paramat hmm it seems people are around more during the week actually
18:19 paramat or maybe sunday is better for meetings
18:21 paramat no objections to #7019
18:21 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7019 -- Colorize command parameters and privilege names by Wuzzy2
18:23 paramat but yeah, let's discuss when people are around. i support having meetings but it's funny how quiet they usually are, like quieter than most other times :)
18:24 paramat makes me wonder if there's any point having a fixed time
18:24 paramat as it tends to then create disappointment
18:26 paramat no opinion on PR7011
18:28 paramat keeping 0.4.17 c++03 is fine for me, it's good if it helps android work. i had the impression c++11 was a 0.5 thing anyway
18:30 rubenwardy Shouldn't be too much work to change to 03
18:30 paramat game#2128 updated
18:30 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/2128 -- TNT: Raise cost of TNT by adding a TNT stick crafting stage by paramat
18:31 Cornelia One of these days I'll get in on MT dev.. one of these days... :P
18:32 sfan5 Krock, i deleted those files
18:32 sfan5 there's already a TODO in the backports pr for me to update thes
18:32 sfan5 e
18:32 Krock oh I see!
18:35 * sofar & working outside today, waves
18:35 Krock well so #7019 - any other opinions?
18:35 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7019 -- Colorize command parameters and privilege names by Wuzzy2
18:36 * Krock waves sofar
18:36 Krock paramat, if it looks good to you (code quality ok, working) then feel free to approve it
18:37 Krock rubenwardy, right it's not too much but still unnecessary work to do - sadly.
18:38 rubenwardy Isn't cpp11 one of the breaking changes thoughm
18:42 paramat i can't be bothered to code review the colorize PR =) sorry. prioritising
18:42 paramat unnecessary? thought it was to get android working
18:44 sfan5 the c++03 changes are not needed for android and don't help in any way with 0.5 either
18:44 paramat i'll just mention again: i bumped all old (> 2 years) feature requests which have no core dev support, please go through these if you can, they're all labelled under 'possible close'
18:45 paramat hm then why?
18:45 paramat oh you said above
18:46 paramat can't see any practical reason then :)
18:54 Krock So should we also add https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/4bb41a19dc ?
18:55 Krock protection from CSM is what servers wanted - since the flavours (or however they are called now) are 0.5.0 only, this seems worthy to backport
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18:58 paramat seems to me it should be backported
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19:25 Krock paramat, actually I quite like that paper idea. It would add some complexity to crafting
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19:37 paramat hm the issue is 27 paper for 1 TNT, or, very messy recipes
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19:42 nerzhul it was never the contract, but we wait months and months to release...
19:42 nerzhul rubenwardy cpp11 was the main breaking change
19:45 paramat yes that's why it seems natural for 0.4.17 to be c++03
19:46 nerzhul yeah
19:46 nerzhul backporting fix is not difficult and it seems we fixed all C++03 points
19:46 nerzhul android compiler on 0.4.X branch doesn't support C++11 if i remember
19:46 paramat yeah it's done now
19:46 paramat ah
19:47 paramat so it does help android
19:47 nerzhul we use the old compiler instead of clang if i'm correct
19:47 nerzhul yes, and it helps the old distros
19:47 nerzhul and recent too
19:49 paramat ok so we just need to sort out the failing builds and/or travis, to know if we can freeze
19:49 Krock or rather: freeze as soon it's fixed and the last remaining commit backported
19:50 nerzhul the compilation is okay, the problem is sfan5 dropped old windowns & mac osx blobs to compile them
19:50 nerzhul (with the CI
19:50 Krock )
19:50 nerzhul then it's good as those releases are done by himself and a more recent compiler is not a problem for windows build, it was only on linux & bsd builds
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22:55 rubenwardy merging #7302 in 20m
22:55 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7302 -- Add screenshots to online repository browser by rubenwardy
23:01 Fixer this has one approval, don't let it die https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6898
23:01 Fixer those too https://github.com/minetest/minetest/labels/One%20approval
23:02 paramat we won't forget about PRs with 1 approval :)
23:25 rubenwardy done
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