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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2018-03-14

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01:14 sonosfuer are there any devs available that can explain minetest.setting_* to me, The available documentation I have found states to use it but the game itself running complains that it is depreciated.
01:24 paramat be with you in a min
01:29 paramat see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/43d1f375d18a2fbc547a9b4f23d1354d645856ca for examples of the new usage
01:29 paramat it's now 'minetest.settings: ...' with a colon
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01:36 paramat docs here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/92ca9dda54299a9ccbccf43071f6d44468cac05d/doc/lua_api.txt#L4431
01:40 sonosfuer Reading now
01:40 sonosfuer So its that simple of a change
01:43 paramat yes
01:43 sonosfuer Would it be fair to update this page on the information http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.setting_get
01:50 paramat oh the wiki, it's often very out of date, best go by lua_api.txt
01:51 paramat fair yes
01:52 sonosfuer -_- So the login for the dev wiki is different than that of the regular wiki?
01:53 sonosfuer Yea, the wiki is easier to read, eventually I want to edit it to become uptodate but apparently the login I got only works for one wiki
01:53 paramat i see
01:54 paramat devs don't have time to update the wiki so it gets left to others, and becomes out of date
01:55 sonosfuer Yea, it would be cool if a script could generate a wiki from the documentation but all we have is doxygen which goes way beyond mod developer help
01:56 paramat there's an issue suggesting autogeneration of a markdown form of lua_api.txt somewhere
01:57 sonosfuer I will have to look for it, although I think html would be the most friendly for the entry level modders
01:57 paramat but of course lua_api.txt is very concise and technical, although improving
01:57 paramat it needs to remain fairly concise to be quick to update in commits
01:59 sonosfuer It would be cool to see something to could update all of the entries in the wiki with the concise information while leaving the extra examples and explanation alone.
02:11 paramat but the examples and explanation needs to change too :]
02:18 paramat so i think we need to make lua_api.txt a little more friendly and descriptive
02:24 sonosfuer I guess that is fair, although the information the wiki can provide in the visual way it can provide it is beyond what a .txt can do
02:24 sonosfuer Or atleast naturally do*
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02:37 paramat yes
02:39 paramat i guess we need dedicated people who update the wiki immediately. issue is #7084
02:39 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7084 -- Consolidate API documentation
03:31 sonosfuer I still think a form of automation is the right direction. I joined the discussion on github
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04:18 paramat will merge #7130 in a few mins
04:18 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7130 -- Lua_api.txt: Split long lines part 4 by paramat
04:26 paramat merging
04:32 paramat done
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07:07 nerzhul Krock i just pushed #7131 as we talked yesterday
07:07 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7131 -- Server: delegate mod management & config to ServerModConfiguration by nerzhul
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09:50 Megaf meh, the cleverer HTML IDEs try to be the more stupid they get
09:50 Megaf here is how the code is and what the IDE shows https://imgur.com/a/HGoim
09:50 Megaf suggestions?
10:01 Megaf well, responsive gallery to  come https://www.w3schools.com/bootstrap/bootstrap_images.asp
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10:09 Megaf Folks, for screenshots, should we add screenshots showing other games and mods or just vanilla stuff?
10:10 sfan5 pretty sure that was discussed in the issue
10:10 Megaf I think we should show of either, watchuthink?
10:10 Megaf oh
10:10 Megaf will have a look
10:21 Megaf web#124 nothing there yet, just ideas and discussion
10:21 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest.github.io/issues/124 -- [WIP] Screenshots And Artwork by Megaf
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14:04 Thomas-S https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L585 Shouldn't `drawtype` be `paramtype2` in this line and the following ones?
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18:06 paramat Thomas-S  correct, will fix, thanks
18:07 Thomas-S Thanks for fixing it!
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19:08 Megaf Thomas-S: thanks for reporting that
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19:29 nerzhul Krock: i found a way to load minimal directly for unittest heh and it works well, pushing that + copyright fix
19:34 nerzhul Krock: pr is now okay
19:34 nerzhul CI should just pass fine
19:34 nerzhul and the tests load minimall
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