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Hijiri |
was setting item texture implemented? I don't see it in lua_api.txt |
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Hijiri |
doesn't look like it was |
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Hijiri |
is there any way to delete a detached inventory |
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sofar |
don't they disappear on logout? |
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Hijiri |
Do they? |
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Hijiri |
I don't knopw |
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Hijiri |
That would only apply to detached inventories associated with a player, but that is the kind I am thinking of working with anyway |
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jas_ |
i think u just make a detached inventory nil |
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jas_ |
unless that makes no sense heh *heads back over the #minetest* |
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Hijiri |
doesn't make sense to me |
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Hijiri |
but I have to sleep, good night |
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blackjack4it |
hi there, why having the same mods installed both in a pc and in an android phone the first is running without problems and the second crashes everytime I open/create a world? |
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blackjack4it |
is latest luajit 2.0.1 (the one without OOM error) already inside the latest android build? |
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sfan5 |
let me answer your question properly this time |
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sfan5 |
blackjack4it: since android is not compiled with luajit the concerns about the OOM bug don't apply |
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sfan5 |
meaning if your phone crashes loading a world with mods it simply does not have enough RAM |
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blackjack4it |
:( ok I'm a bit sad about this now |
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blackjack4it |
teorically is possible to create a swap file? |
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sfan5 |
in theory yes |
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sfan5 |
but android doesn't allow you to i'm fairly sure |
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blackjack4it |
:( ok thanks for now |
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blackjack4it |
oh a little last question, is there a hook to know when the left click is on hold? |
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blackjack4it |
I'm trying to do a mod for creative mode that let users delete a block instantly like in minecraft but it destroy a lot of other blocks if I keep pressed left click |
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sfan5 |
i don't think so |
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sfan5 |
this sounds like it would better be implemented as a core feature, consider making an issue on github |
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blackjack4it |
ok I'll take a look there, thanks and have a good day |
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glut32 |
hello, I'm looking for a mingw compiler for windows with target=windows. I would like to compile minetest. I used 3 differents mingw480/mingw530/mingw710 for windows/windows. I can compile and link and generate an exe but I cannot execute the exe under windows. I have a message box error like that "This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. Please contact the application's support team for |
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glut32 |
more information." |
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glut32 |
"Runtime error" |
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Krock |
wrong bundled dlls? |
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glut32 |
I used/added the dlls of my mingw cuz without this I have missing functions |
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Krock |
are you sure that those are the right dll versions? |
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glut32 |
in message box errors |
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glut32 |
Yes it works with mingw-linux (target=windows) |
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Krock |
does it also work in wine? |
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glut32 |
I dont check |
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Krock |
I mean, starting the executable. Never tried before |
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Krock |
at least the MSVC binary starts nicely in wine :) |
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glut32 |
the mingw64-linux (target = windows) works fine |
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glut32 |
on all windows (vista/7/8/10) |
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glut32 |
minetest.exe can run |
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glut32 |
how people compiles minetest on mingw windows (target=windows) ? |
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Krock |
well, there's the buildbot in util/ that does everything |
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glut32 |
it's for linux |
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glut32 |
I use also buildbot on Linux |
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glut32 |
& Windows (but with a wrong generated exe) |
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Krock |
*shrug* |
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glut32 |
I use a modified version of minetest. It doesn't link on Linux but it links on Windows |
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Hijiri |
in set_attach, is orientation euler angles or a direction vector? |
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Krock |
vector, IIRC |
| 16:54 |
Krock |
v3f type on C++ side, so it's a vector. |
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nerzhul |
merging #6470 in ~ 10 mins |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6470 -- Add session_t typedef + remove unused functions by nerzhul |
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rdococ |
yay |
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nerzhul |
rdococ, ? |
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Hijiri |
Krock: ok, but what is the meaning of the vector? by euler angles I meant represented as a vector |
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Hijiri |
v3f could be a direction, or it could be the angles on each axis |
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Hijiri |
The reason it might not be a direction is because then you wouldn't be able to specify all axes of rotatino |
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Megaf |
https://travis-ci.org/minetest/minetest |
| 18:56 |
Megaf |
Travis is not happy with Minetest |
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Hijiri |
well, I looked through the source, and it looks ilke that vector is plugged directly into irrlicht |
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Hijiri |
sourceforge is down so I can't see the online docs, but I'm assuming it's euler angles since irrlicht would support arbitrary rotations since it's supposed to be for general rendering |
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Hijiri |
there's an example on http://www.irrlicht3d.org/wiki/index.php?n=Main.GettingStartedWithBullet that uses euler angles |
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rdococ |
hm |
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Hijiri |
anyone know which issue it was that Wuzzy reported blackened textures |
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Wuzzy |
Hijiri: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4876 |
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Hijiri |
thanks |
| 20:13 |
Hijiri |
someone on my server is experiencing it from what looks like almost immediately |
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Hijiri |
actually this may be a different bug |
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nerzhul |
Megaf, exact, wtf i fixed that problem but it seems my commit doesn't pass before merge :) will fix it a little bit later |
| 20:31 |
Hijiri |
this is what the bug looks ilke: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6472 |
| 20:42 |
nerzhul |
seems macosx build is unstable, another time, due to travis |
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nerzhul |
i pushed the lint fix |
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rdococ |
0.5.0 should have a compatibility feature for older servers |
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VanessaE |
afaik, it won't. |
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VanessaE |
expect massive breakages, injured ferrets, black holes, dogs and cats living together... you know, mass hysteria. |
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rdococ |
lol |
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nerzhul |
it won't, it's a major release, we need it to solve some historical problems :) |
| 21:00 |
rdococ |
true |
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VanessaE |
nerzhul: is 0.4.17 still expected soon? |
| 21:02 |
nerzhul |
VanessaE, i don't have a visual on it, but i know sfan5 added some issues to the merge list |
| 21:02 |
VanessaE |
ok. |
| 21:02 |
nerzhul |
we should defined a date at a point, we said we will do a such release in november, it's in 1 month |
| 21:03 |
nerzhul |
merging trivial #6469 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6469 -- Fix recent commit: std::max -> std::fmax for floats by paramat |
| 21:03 |
rdococ |
I tried the 0.6.0 beta recently |
| 21:03 |
rdococ |
it was awesome |
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nerzhul |
there is no 0.6.0 |
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VanessaE |
don't forget about that beds/param2 issue in mt_game (paramat) |
| 21:03 |
rdococ |
Portal 3 is also a must-play |
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rubenwardy |
please stop |
| 21:04 |
rubenwardy |
it would be great to see 0.6 quicker than 0.5. Could be used for your network rewrites, nerzhul |
| 21:04 |
nerzhul |
rubenwardy, who ? |
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rubenwardy |
rdococ |
| 21:04 |
rdococ |
I was going to, but now I feel kind of afraid |
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nerzhul |
rubenwardy, my network rewrite can take some time i'm tired these days, but i started the full rewrite on a branch :p (doesn't compile but it's proper :p) |
| 21:05 |
nerzhul |
and it's a poc, i'm pretty sure it can be better, but i can be wrong |
| 21:05 |
rubenwardy |
well, 0.4 -> 0.5 was 5 years |
| 21:05 |
nerzhul |
and i will need a stress test with 20-30 players when ready i think |
| 21:05 |
nerzhul |
yeah 5 years is huge, 3 years is nice |
| 21:06 |
nerzhul |
it permits to switch to c++14 when we will really use C++11 features :p |
| 21:06 |
rdococ |
heh |
| 21:07 |
nerzhul |
rubenwardy, i hope i can do my dev in 1 month, it can be done, actually i need to make minetest compile and use a single session, then add multiple session proper support and move some server code part to network thread to reduce server thread load |
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rubenwardy |
sounds good |
| 21:07 |
rubenwardy |
is it know what the main bottlenecks are or block sending/loading/view distance? |
| 21:08 |
nerzhul |
except network and a NPC API i don't have any roadmap in head for MT, it's the major concerns for me |
| 21:08 |
nerzhul |
i think network usage can be one problem when there are many players |
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rubenwardy |
would be great to see some actual stats |
| 21:08 |
nerzhul |
if a player has a slow connection i think he slows downs the server for everybody |
| 21:09 |
rubenwardy |
I don't think it works like that |
| 21:09 |
rubenwardy |
UDP is usually send and forget |
| 21:09 |
rubenwardy |
any queues would be at some random router on the path |
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nerzhul |
it's not like that in fact in MT protocol |
| 21:09 |
nerzhul |
it's why i'm using ASIO and i will try TCP + UDP (i tested it on my server, very good latency and maximum throughput => 100Mbps symetrical) |
| 21:10 |
nerzhul |
if i remember, MT needs to have a full packet before looking next packet |
| 21:10 |
nerzhul |
1 full packet ~= 1 Network Packet buffered object with MT header |
| 21:10 |
nerzhul |
splited in 5xx bytes parts |
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rubenwardy |
well, fragmented packets are usually OS level |
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nerzhul |
asio manage it very well |
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sofar |
nerzhul: if you work on anything, make it csm mod sending |
| 21:11 |
nerzhul |
i sent 6k buffers directly over internet without problem |
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rubenwardy |
so it should buffer them and only provide them when all parts are ready. Others are available in the mentime |
| 21:11 |
sofar |
NPC api work is entirely premature imho, but you know that |
| 21:11 |
nerzhul |
sofar, yeah there is this feature, you are free to help i'm working on network |
| 21:11 |
rdococ |
Why isn't the rotation of ObjectRefs stored as a quaternion or something similar? |
| 21:11 |
sofar |
my work time is so limited atm, meh |
| 21:11 |
nerzhul |
asio properly handle the network fragmentation (TCP, IP, for my example) |
| 21:12 |
rdococ |
(Or, rather, it might be, but Lua doesn't have access to it.) |
| 21:12 |
nerzhul |
rubenwardy, here is my poc |
| 21:12 |
nerzhul |
https://gist.github.com/nerzhul/8a02cfd49ee4573f32f77c700cb35a59 |
| 21:12 |
nerzhul |
(without MT implementation, baremetal ASIO over network) |
| 21:13 |
nerzhul |
it's pretty sexy implementation, lightweight and very performant, i tested 100 clients connected sending 4k buffers it works very nice |
| 21:14 |
nerzhul |
i talked with some great game dev working on AAA games (Bethesda for example) and asio is for them the must have library for network |
| 21:14 |
nerzhul |
asio has a chance to be part of C++20 standard at a point (especially sockets par, but maybe the other parts too) |
| 21:14 |
nerzhul |
network portability lacks in stdc++ lib |
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rdococ |
hm, can I add tags to issues I open? |
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sofar |
no, I think only devs can add tags |
| 21:22 |
rdococ |
ah |
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nerzhul |
hmm i forgot some u16 -> session_t, i push a commit for that, there were a little bit hidden in my first commit search i push those forgotten trivial type name fixes |
| 21:49 |
nerzhul |
rubenwardy, another interesting enhancement part is to switch to faster comprssion algorithm |
| 21:49 |
nerzhul |
in a bare metal minetest_game 25% CPU is spend in comprssion/decompression using gzip |
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nerzhul |
also maybe some local map caching can be good, and have the compressed mapblock somewhere in a cache to send it directly to client too |
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Fixer |
!tell glut have you tried this? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=17797 |
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ShadowBot |
Fixer: O.K. |
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