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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2017-09-19

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07:29 paramat #6437 will merge in a few mins
07:29 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6437 -- Rooted plantlike drawtype: Add remaining documentation by paramat
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08:26 paramat merging
08:29 paramat actually no, i need to improve it a little first
08:32 paramat nah, it's ok, merging
08:39 paramat done
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13:27 paramat #6438 *sigh* i think i need help with this one
13:27 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6438 -- Biome API: Add 'get heat / humidity / biome at pos' by paramat
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13:50 paramat thanks
13:58 Megaf #6439
13:58 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6439 -- Build not linking.
14:01 Fixer smth about irrlicht
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14:10 Megaf Irrlicht is blame for almost everything
14:10 Megaf from font size to shader stuff
14:10 Megaf blamed*
14:10 Megaf why the heck would we use Irrlicht if it's so bad?
15:00 celeron55 looks like somebody has added a unit test that requires something from the irrlicht library instead of just irrlicht's headers
15:00 celeron55 -> server won't build
15:00 celeron55 or alternatively your irrlicht is somehow broken
15:01 celeron55 asking "why the heck would we use Irrlicht if it's so bad" is like asking "why the heck do cars use gasoline if it's so bad"
15:03 celeron55 or maybe irrlicht has moved some stuff from its headers to implementation files
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15:18 sfan5 it's the latter
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15:19 nerzhul celeron55, be or not to be, that is the question
15:20 Megaf Why are unittests built at all?
15:20 Megaf They should be optional IMHO
15:20 Megaf by the way, same error when building client only
15:21 nerzhul #ifdef USERQUESTIONS abort(); #endif
15:21 Megaf of my my irrlicht is broken, problem is always my system...
15:21 Megaf always standard Debian 9 install fault
15:22 Megaf I have Irrlich 1.8.4
15:22 Megaf Indeed MT doesnt work with 1.8.4 from what I can recall...
15:28 Megaf wait! no! 1.9 that's broken
15:28 Megaf 1.8.4 should work
15:36 Megaf Trying to build again using latest stabe Irrlich from its website
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15:48 paramat #6440
15:48 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6440 -- CAO footstep sounds: Reduce gain to balance volume by paramat
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16:06 RoaryTiger linking fails with clean irrlicht from irrlich website too
16:06 RoaryTiger suggestions?
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16:11 sofar master or tag?
16:12 RoaryTiger stable-0.4
16:18 sfan5 works with 1.8.4 on both arch and windows
16:24 celeron55 irrlicht 1.9 is unstable, i guess they don't promise it's always working
16:24 celeron55 (at least that's what unstable usually means)
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18:35 jas_ i would like to make an issue on minetest tracker; i think on_grant/revoke callbacks were added, but i am looking for on_add_player_attr, because: https://i.imgur.com/f6C2k18.png <-- minimap is only disable IF player lacks map item.
18:35 jas_ (but i dunno about making this issue...)
18:36 jas_ paramat: because i don't even get feedback when trying to zoom, just not even a message it's disabled.  and it's a key setting in the menu, so this is confusing imo
18:36 sfan5 if in doubt just make an issue
18:36 jas_ okie dokie ty
18:43 paramat but those PRs are not even merged yet (map item, binocular item) so just comment in my PR threads
18:43 jas_ oh too late now
18:43 paramat those PRs aren't finished either
18:43 jas_ but really, i think it's a general enough issue.. what do you say?
18:43 jas_ #6445
18:43 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6445 -- Add on_add_player_attribute() callback?
18:44 jas_ i mean, attributes are a big enough deal to warrant it maybe?
18:44 jas_ i dunno, close away if u may, it makes no nevermind hehe
18:44 jas_ o/
18:45 paramat ill look at it
18:45 paramat it's ok
18:46 paramat a request for an 'on attribute' callback is valid
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21:46 Fixer please reopen https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3576#issuecomment-330682814
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22:08 Fixer since clientside translations are merged, should mtg team start thinking about adding translations to mtg now?
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22:57 Wuzzy YES!!!
22:58 Wuzzy Was that a question or an observation? :D
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