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paramat |
merging #6361 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6361 -- World start time: Add as setting, default unchanged by paramat |
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paramat |
done, no more getting up early for me :D |
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nerzhul |
hello :) can someone can finish the #6369 review to make it merged ? |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6369 -- Implement minetest.register_can_bypass_userlimit by nerzhul |
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Fixer |
had crash on newest minetest |
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Fixer |
during connection to server |
| 12:26 |
nerzhul |
please give us a backtrace |
| 12:26 |
nerzhul |
and what is MT version of cleint and server |
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Fixer |
unfortunately i was running nondebug one, client: newest (a383...), server: 0.5.0-dev, "dcbl" on serverlist |
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nerzhul |
it's possible this server is not up-to-date no ? |
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Fixer |
there are two 0.5.0-dev servers available, i was on time travel, but server itself crashes like crazy, so I connected to dcbl one and just right before having entered - got crash |
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nerzhul |
it's not recommended to use 0.5.0-dev in production |
| 12:30 |
Fixer |
nerzhul: possible |
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nerzhul |
if you can connect on dcbl with 0.4.16 client it's a not up to date server |
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Fixer |
dcbl just went down :/ can't check |
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Fixer |
nerzhul: not possible to connect via 0.4.16 to dcbl |
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Fixer |
I guess I need to compile debug version |
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nerzhul |
y |
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jas_ |
dcbl is running a383eb0e at the moment |
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Fixer |
oh wait |
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Fixer |
it crashed ^_^ |
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Fixer |
nerzhul: https://pastebin.com/raw/bCTf6RRR |
| 12:58 |
nerzhul |
Fixer, i see another SharedBuffer copy problem |
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nerzhul |
when i will get much more time i need to enhance another time the network code to have a nicer packet buffer and cleaner reading, the packet movement inside the code is a little bit crazy to follow, it works, but it's not optimal |
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Fixer |
issue is opened here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6373 |
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nerzhul |
ok |
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nerzhul |
i'm polishing mod channel PR and i will look at it after doing some work at work |
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nerzhul |
sfan5, i enhance mod channel PR (#6351). I prepared work for readonly state on channels (handled but not settable by API atm), i added sender in the callback (missed mandatory field) |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6351 -- Implement mod communication channels by nerzhul |
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Calinou |
I'm trying to compile Minetest using MSYS2 (just for fun), how do you solve the missing OpenGL libraries? I installed Mesa using pacman already |
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Calinou |
(I successfully compiled Sauerbraten using the same MSYS2 setup, so it should be possible) |
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sfan5 |
shouldn't your toolchain have the gl headers? |
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sfan5 |
my mingw one does |
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nerzhul |
I push another concurrency problem fix in connection.h, reported by Fixer, due to network refactor. Those copies are useful, sometimes... but we really should have a better network buffer with concurrency fixes, later :) |
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Fixer |
Calinou: i just use modified buildbot with libs provided by sfan |
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Fixer |
for msys2 |
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Calinou |
sfan5: I have an OpenGL DLL, but no headers, it seems |
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jas_ |
nerzhul: now i'm crashing left and right, i'll let you know |
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nerzhul |
what does that mean ? |
| 15:12 |
jas_ |
(i'm doing make clean now, maybe that will change it) |
| 15:13 |
nerzhul |
do you have a backtrace i can see ? |
| 15:13 |
jas_ |
i got new crashes and non-connections on current head, but let me verify and i'll let you know. : ) |
| 15:14 |
Fixer |
nerzhul: still crashing, does server need to update as well? |
| 15:14 |
nerzhul |
no it's purely binary problem, Fixer is this the same backtrace ? i need to be sure |
| 15:15 |
nerzhul |
maybe there is another part i should fix, but i need to be sure |
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jas_ |
ye i gonna have to take my time and compile a debug version finally, lmao |
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nerzhul |
sorry i crashed, you can now send me a backtrace |
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jas_ |
ok iwill, i'll run DEBUG builds from now on. i just connected OK so it's possible i forgot to ctrl+c and restart the server (i'm tried) |
| 15:22 |
jas_ |
gn? |
| 15:23 |
jas_ |
no this was a client crash: https://gist.github.com/jastevenson303/e73ef5151fcdc8cf618cc4db08c48f90 -- i'll send the backtrack soon as i have it |
| 15:24 |
nerzhul |
this assertion is client side |
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Fixer |
i need to compile debug one |
| 15:28 |
nerzhul |
reverting the last fix, it's not good |
| 15:28 |
nerzhul |
i will take more and more time to find the real issue |
| 15:29 |
jas_ |
okie doke. |
| 15:29 |
nerzhul |
it's a concurrency problem but it seems it's not here, i should take more time to find the deletion issue, i don't understand why data is removed while used |
| 15:29 |
nerzhul |
i think i need to graph the code |
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jas_ |
quick question: should i be doing make clean every time? |
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Calinou |
you don't need to perform a "make clean" unless you're getting build errors |
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nerzhul |
jas_, it's not needed |
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jas_ |
ah very good, thx! |
| 15:30 |
nerzhul |
except if you change compilation options |
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nerzhul |
oh t0ny2 found a typo |
| 15:34 |
nerzhul |
it's why it bugz |
| 15:35 |
jas_ |
*\:D/* |
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nerzhul |
okay, reapplying the fix with the typo fix |
| 15:35 |
nerzhul |
jas_ = t0ny2 ? |
| 15:35 |
nerzhul |
sorry for the history... |
| 15:35 |
jas_ |
nope, jas = jas |
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jas_ |
(one day i'll be able to read c++ heh) |
| 15:37 |
nerzhul |
okay it's pushed |
| 15:37 |
nerzhul |
you can test it now Fixer jas_ |
| 15:37 |
nerzhul |
withtout the typo fix it's better |
| 15:38 |
nerzhul |
i prefer to see that typo error than searching deeper if there were an error elsewhere, whereas i found this should be the concurrency cause (2 threads using this object) |
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jas_ |
recompiling. sounds deep, nerzhul |
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nerzhul |
concurrency is not easy |
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jas_ |
fewer rewards if it were, perhaps |
| 15:43 |
nerzhul |
network is clearer now, but some optimization side effets appeared, i need to finish my current opened PR to re-read another time the network code to cut that network lag problem we got hen someone is slow in queue |
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jas_ |
good luck, i salute you |
| 15:46 |
nerzhul |
? |
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jas_ |
lmao " |
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jas_ |
a gesture of respect, homage, or polite recognition or acknowledgment, especially one made to or by a person when arriving or departing. |
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nerzhul |
yea :) |
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nerzhul |
i just hope your server will be running smooth |
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nerzhul |
0.5.0-dev is for crazy man :p |
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jas_ |
got plenty of time, let's hope it's well spent |
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jas_ |
my server is live. i thought you had a testing server too, no nerzhul? |
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jas_ |
off to play for a bit b4 bed, gn o> |
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nerzhul |
i run tests on my machine, i have APpletree live server but it's quite old with old MT code base and many changes, it's not easily upgradeable |
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nerzhul |
hopefully i backported may changes to MT core but i need to convert map |
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Fixer |
new crash on newest git |
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Fixer |
will run under gdb, crash mid game |
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nerzhul |
ty |
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nerzhul |
i keep an eye on this network problem, but i need to fix various other apps too |
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paramat |
celeron55_ Krock nerzhul nore rubenwardy sfan5 sofar , lhofhansl is ok with being a core dev https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/4959#issuecomment-326868784 any support / objections? |
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celeron55_ |
the core dev question? |
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Krock |
No objections from my side |
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paramat |
+1 for me |
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Fixer |
if someone tests newest git, use debug one, for backtraces, there are crashes |
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nore |
+1 from me as well |
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sfan5 |
no objections from me |
| 19:05 |
paramat |
radical suggestion: are the official MT mobile apps free in the app stores? if so how about charging a low price (less than other apps) to bring a small amount of money in to cover c55's costs? these clone apps cause problems, this way we can turn the app market to our advantage |
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sfan5 |
you just turned a small amount of android users into zero android users, congrats |
| 19:07 |
sfan5 |
also how does that turn the app market to our advantage? |
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Raven262 |
Add a donate option, maybe? |
| 19:07 |
Fixer |
nerzhul: sharedbuffer related crash ;) |
| 19:10 |
red-001 |
I agree with sfan5 |
| 19:11 |
Fixer |
nerzhul: https://pastebin.com/raw/qFGptxV3 / c05228f |
| 19:11 |
red-001 |
even when it has no ads and is completely free the official app has a far smaller marketshare |
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paramat |
my thought is, very many players are willing to pay money for unofficial apps, so they might be fine with spending less for the official one |
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DS-minetest |
what about a premium version for mobile, with different set default values for settings, enable everything, that looks special and good, even if it costs performance, just add a different initial minetest.conf |
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rubenwardy |
paramat, they're not though |
| 19:12 |
rubenwardy |
they use a bunch of free apps with *ads* |
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Fixer |
and ads are cancer |
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paramat |
hmm, my impression was most clones charge |
| 19:14 |
paramat |
ok |
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paramat |
odd that most players choose unofficial apps |
| 19:15 |
paramat |
must have poor taste |
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nerzhul |
paramat, first MT app on play store is free, second a free app cannot be non free after first publish, last, no |
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Raven262 |
Or the apps have fancy names. |
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nerzhul |
Fixer, in destructor i see |
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paramat |
can't be non-free due to licence? |
| 19:16 |
paramat |
lol yes it's the fancy names |
| 19:16 |
nerzhul |
no, when you register app you choose: free or paid, paid can become free, free cannot become paid |
| 19:16 |
paramat |
ok |
| 19:17 |
paramat |
could open a new app account |
| 19:17 |
nerzhul |
gg travis, they break clang-4.0 builds |
| 19:18 |
nerzhul |
where are the fucking packages |
| 19:18 |
nerzhul |
https://travis-ci.org/minetest/minetest/jobs/271782487 |
| 19:18 |
paramat |
anyway i realise this probably won't happen |
| 19:18 |
paramat |
and our app is in poor state also |
| 19:19 |
Raven262 |
Somebody made lots of spam accounts on the forums. Check out the "Congratulations to" section. |
| 19:19 |
Raven262 |
All randomly generated names. |
| 19:19 |
Raven262 |
plus completely random bio on each one. |
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Raven262 |
and all 36 today |
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nerzhul |
merging #6369 in ~ 5 mins |
| 20:01 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6369 -- Implement minetest.register_can_bypass_userlimit by nerzhul |
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nerzhul |
Fixer, can you test the following patch please ? i restore the prvious old behaviour in the critical network part which cause problem |
| 21:01 |
nerzhul |
https://hastebin.com/efolayocun.hs |
| 21:02 |
nerzhul |
i think this should do the trick, i don't see any other problem in the refactor code, this is the only difference on this critical part |
| 21:02 |
nerzhul |
it seems the refcount cut is mandatory |
| 21:04 |
Fixer |
nerzhul: will look, but it does not crash that fast |
| 21:05 |
nerzhul |
take your time, test it for one day if possible, if it's okay tomorrow i will push it |
| 21:06 |
Fixer |
nerzhul: https://pastebin.com/raw/DuT53LNc |
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nerzhul |
hu ? |
| 21:07 |
nerzhul |
can you apply it manually ? it's tiny changes |
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nerzhul |
see you tomorrow, hope you can confirm it's okay :) |
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paramat |
trivial #6376 |
| 22:49 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6376 -- Network protocol documentation: Add 'can_zoom' to version 36 by paramat |
| 22:52 |
ShadowNinja |
Megaf, nerzhul, celeron55_: Regarding auto-formating: I wrote an Astyle PR since Astyle is less nitpicky and doesn't require everything to perfectly match its "one true style". It ignores some minor stylistic differences which don't really matter that clang-format will "fix", resulting in an error. IIRC it's also a lot faster since it actually ignores whitelisted files instead of formatting them regardless and then ignoring the results |
| 22:52 |
ShadowNinja |
if it's whitelisted. |
| 22:57 |
paramat |
ShadowNinja any comment on lhofhansl possibly becoming a new core dev? |
| 22:57 |
paramat |
sofar too ^ |
| 22:58 |
ShadowNinja |
paramat: I don't know enough about lhofhansl to have an opinion on him. sofar sounds good. |
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ShadowNinja |
... I've beed away too long, I thought you were asking about sofar too. I thought he was a core dev too but I couldn't remember for sure :-P |
| 23:00 |
ShadowNinja |
been* |
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sofar |
lhofhansl is cool, +1 |
| 23:01 |
ShadowNinja |
Sorry sofar :-D. I'd better get back to other sutff now. |
| 23:02 |
sofar |
no worries |
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paramat |
hehe |
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paramat |
conf.example needs updating by auto-generation so will do that now and merge with 6376 |
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paramat |
#6377 will merge these 2 now |
| 23:23 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6377 -- Conf.example: Update using auto-generation by paramat |
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paramat |
done |
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Megaf |
+1 for sofar as core dev |
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sfan5 |
wot |
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Megaf |
[23:57:32] <paramat> ShadowNinja any comment on lhofhansl possibly becoming a new core dev? |
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Megaf |
[23:57:49] <paramat> sofar too ^ |
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Megaf |
xP |
| 23:54 |
Megaf |
[23:58:56] <ShadowNinja> paramat: I don't know enough about lhofhansl to have an opinion on him. sofar sounds good. |
