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Zeno` |
#3985 |
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ShadowBot |
Zeno`: Error: Delimiter not found in "HTTP Error 404: Not Found" |
| 11:23 |
Zeno` |
oops, #3958 |
| 11:23 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3958 -- Fix warnings from 01ae43c48009f816f4649fae2f7f6997452aa6cf by ssieb |
| 11:23 |
Zeno` |
was discussed on IRC the other night and it's the same solution as I would have written |
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Zeno` |
if someone else can review also and commit that'd be great |
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sfan5 |
Zeno`: blit_with_interpolate_overlay removed because unused? |
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sfan5 |
in any case: looks good to me |
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nrzkt |
sfan5 clang report unused static function outside of classes |
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Zeno` |
actually, I'd probably prefer the blit_with_interpolate_overlay function to be simply ifdef'd away, but it's kind of debatable what the best course would be (I mean the code is still in the repo) |
| 12:33 |
nore |
I found how to fix the die on login bug |
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nore |
I'm on my phone right now, so I can't test it |
| 12:34 |
nore |
but it should be enough to set speed_f to zero when we return early from collisionMoveSimple |
| 12:35 |
nore |
in the test that was added in the commit that broke it |
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nore |
if someone wants to test that, feel free, else I will do that tonight |
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est31 |
!tell hmmmm who gave the second approval for #3899 ? |
| 12:50 |
ShadowBot |
est31: O.K. |
| 12:50 |
est31 |
i hope its the right number of m's |
| 12:52 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3949#issuecomment-205658992 |
| 12:52 |
rubenwardy |
#3899 |
| 12:52 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3899 -- Add an option to colorize to respect the destination alpha by ssieb |
| 12:54 |
est31 |
~tell hmmmm who gave the second approval for #3899 ? (sorry if this message reaches you twice but !tell may be broken) |
| 12:54 |
ShadowBot |
est31: O.K. |
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est31 |
I've asked him via github before, but he didn't seem to react |
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est31 |
i guess he doesn't read github notifications |
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nrzkt |
est31 nobody as it seems |
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nrzkt |
he commits because he wants to commit |
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foghrye4 |
In enviroment.cpp vertical collision damage is applied based on speed difference extracted from CollisionInfo. |
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rubenwardy |
shieettt |
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foghrye4 |
What? |
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rubenwardy |
net split |
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foghrye4 |
Anyway, in collision.cpp collisioninfo is updated only if all function is not return value early, therefore instant death on player joining to server cannot be caused by speed-related damage. Am i correct? |
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foghrye4 |
*whole |
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Zeno` |
Actually, if there was already one approval than hmmmm himself obviously made the second approval |
| 13:35 |
Zeno` |
which is how it's always been |
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Zeno` |
Oh, I see |
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Zeno` |
#3940 ... I am on Windows at the moment but does the fix suggested by kahrl affect non-c++11 builds? If not I think it should be fixed since it's so simple |
| 13:56 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3940 -- testAtomicSemaphoreThread failures (C++11) |
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Zeno` |
It seems pretty reasonable to actually initialise it |
| 14:09 |
Zeno` |
it may have been a gcc bug actually, but I don't think it should have been initialised to 0 even prior to c++11 |
| 14:09 |
Zeno` |
(I mean the compiler shouldn't have) |
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nore |
foghrye4: what happens is that speed increases, and player dies when the map finally loads |
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foghrye4 |
@nore a, ye, i can see that now. Enviroment.cpp at 2431. |
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rubenwardy |
#1075 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1075 -- Allow changing per-player FOV from Lua. by kaeza |
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sofar |
oh, I had never seen a github comment from Krock until now, or did he change his github name? |
| 16:12 |
Krock |
sofar, my email changed |
| 16:13 |
sofar |
ahh |
| 16:13 |
Krock |
6 commits in total.. they were all +/- trivial |
| 16:14 |
Krock |
(Those with the old email) |
| 16:14 |
sofar |
I'm like, who's this nice chap making sensible and positive comments in a decent tone? :) |
| 16:14 |
Krock |
Heh yes.. my active period was short |
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| 16:35 |
sfan5 |
i feel like we need a "what people say" section on minetest.net |
| 16:35 |
sfan5 |
we should put this there: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4dg0ca/why_the_free_and_open_minetest_not_microsofts/d1qreo1 |
| 16:39 |
Krock |
Nice idea! That's well known from the new movies, where they add quotes from newspapers |
| 16:40 |
Krock |
So new players can see what others think about it |
| 16:47 |
VanessaE |
I never knew there even WAS /r/minetest |
| 16:48 |
VanessaE |
(mentioned in the other comments) |
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Calinou_ |
Krock, "An impressive and thrilling open source game" -New York Times |
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* Calinou_ |
runs |
| 16:54 |
Krock |
Calinou_, serisously? o.0 |
| 16:54 |
Krock |
*seriously |
| 16:56 |
Calinou_ |
Krock, was a joke :p |
| 16:56 |
Krock |
Calinou_, but something like that is what we need |
| 16:57 |
Krock |
if there's nothing - just include stuff from erdit |
| 16:57 |
Krock |
*redit |
| 16:58 |
sofar |
rss feed on the main page in MT? |
| 16:58 |
sofar |
could be interesting |
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| 17:12 |
Fixer |
minetest does not even have a wikipedia page because some MC-nazies are blocking it :/ |
| 17:13 |
VanessaE |
"not notable" :-/ |
| 17:14 |
Fixer |
****** |
| 17:14 |
Krock |
Fixer, go and find a page about a person with less than 50 words :) |
| 17:14 |
Fixer |
even small brogue game has its page but not minetest |
| 17:14 |
Krock |
and ask them if that one is notable |
| 17:20 |
Fixer |
and page is protected from recreation and needs contact with admins |
| 17:25 |
sofar |
that's a #minetest-project topic |
| 17:25 |
sofar |
non-core devs should track down reputable articles and rebuild it with the proper support and references. |
| 17:25 |
VanessaE |
we tried before. |
| 17:25 |
sofar |
it's been a long time |
| 17:26 |
VanessaE |
no matter how well-written the article was and how many sources we found (a lot) it wasn't good enough. |
| 17:26 |
Calinou_ |
they consider even regular Minetest players as Minetest developers |
| 17:27 |
Calinou_ |
we need Selena Gomez to tweet about Minetest, that's all |
| 17:27 |
sofar |
good idea |
| 17:27 |
VanessaE |
get Bernie Sanders to tweet about it :) |
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VanessaE |
(you know, I think he actually *would*) |
| 17:28 |
Fixer |
yeah, bias against minetest on wikipedia is strange |
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sofar |
it's percieved as a clone/ripoff/copy |
| 17:29 |
sofar |
the bar is much higher then |
| 17:29 |
Krock |
Also get a negative feedback from Kayne West |
| 17:30 |
Fixer |
clone? any fps game is clone of every fps game, any rpg game is mostly clone of other rpg game %) |
| 17:30 |
Fixer |
wth are they talking |
| 17:30 |
Fixer |
it is not like it is a scam project |
| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
well one can always try again to re-create the page |
| 17:30 |
hmmmm |
if you've read about or seen the politics of wikipedia it'd really turn you off to it |
| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
maybe sofar is right |
| 17:30 |
sfan5 |
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minetest ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 17:30 |
Fixer |
open source game that can be clone of everything really |
| 17:31 |
Krock |
Aww.. I'd know such a good pun in a comic about clones but it doesn't work in english :< |
| 17:31 |
hmmmm |
minetest is big enough to be an article, but select wikipedia moderators have decided to be biased against it |
| 17:31 |
hmmmm |
i cannot have any respect for wikipedia |
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sfan5 |
VanessaE: "So... exactly what IP was stolen?" why are you feeding the trolls |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
actually I was just trying to bait the bastard into making a bigger fool of himself :) |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
no matter what answer he comes up with, it'll be wrong :) |
| 17:36 |
Krock |
But... but... there are so many people on earth, it could be that someone has used my IP before!!! |
| 17:39 |
hmmmm |
i still don't understand how minetest can be "good for teaching" |
| 17:39 |
hmmmm |
what is this meme and why is it so often repeated? |
| 17:39 |
hmmmm |
and then we get people on #minetest saying something to the effect of, "hi I'm trying to use minetest to teach my students and blah blah blah" |
| 17:40 |
VanessaE |
didn't you know? it's open source, so it's automatically the best thing ever to teach with. |
| 17:41 |
Fixer |
students in architecture or mining ops? |
| 17:41 |
Fixer |
arts? |
| 17:41 |
VanessaE |
I can see it being useful for teaching programming, particularly in practical skills. |
| 17:41 |
sfan5 |
hmmmm: this is apparently very useful https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=14365 |
| 17:41 |
VanessaE |
do this --> this happens on screen, that sort of thing |
| 17:41 |
sofar |
you can program a mod in minetest without compiling code and just a text editor |
| 17:41 |
sfan5 |
i wrote it more as a PoC because it was talked about in some topic |
| 17:41 |
sofar |
that's accessible... |
| 17:41 |
hmmmm |
that's such silly stuff |
| 17:42 |
Fixer |
::)) |
| 17:42 |
sfan5 |
modding is most likely what you want to teach though |
| 17:42 |
hmmmm |
maybe.. probably not |
| 17:42 |
hmmmm |
the modding api is NOT simple |
| 17:42 |
hmmmm |
it might've been at some point in history but certainly not anymore |
| 17:42 |
sfan5 |
do you want to teach elementary maths instead? :P |
| 17:42 |
hmmmm |
i don't want to teach anything |
| 17:42 |
Fixer |
hehe |
| 17:43 |
Fixer |
kids are messed up anyway |
| 17:44 |
Fixer |
Azad has letters mod, so you can put words and numbers with that mod |
| 17:55 |
hmmmm |
i fail to see how any of those are any more fun or educational than a set of flash cards |
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Krock |
or the cheat game with a 36-cards deck :) |
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Fixer |
oh well, you can't even teach with a stick and one hand |
| 18:02 |
Fixer |
can* |
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paramat |
hmmmm or anyone #3959 |
| 18:07 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3959 -- Mapgen: Optimise cave noises and tunnel excavation by paramat |
| 18:10 |
hmmmm |
paramat, what about your other PR you have open? |
| 18:10 |
hmmmm |
the one marked WIP |
| 18:11 |
hmmmm |
are you finished working on that one? |
| 18:11 |
paramat |
not yet |
| 18:17 |
Obani |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/3958 |
| 18:17 |
Obani |
two approvals ? |
| 18:18 |
paramat |
yes |
| 18:20 |
hmmmm |
i think the issue is more or less that people are too lazy to fetch the branch and merge it |
| 18:22 |
celeron55 |
that's not an issue actually anymore |
| 18:22 |
celeron55 |
press the "merge pull request" button and see |
| 18:26 |
hmmmm |
? |
| 18:26 |
rubenwardy |
github can automatically squash and merge commits no |
| 18:26 |
rubenwardy |
*now |
| 18:27 |
rubenwardy |
no more "merge branch..." |
| 18:27 |
rubenwardy |
commits |
| 18:27 |
rubenwardy |
although it must be enabled by the owner of the repo |
| 18:27 |
hmmmm |
doesn't it have to be set to do that? |
| 18:27 |
rubenwardy |
there's a setting in the github setttings |
| 18:31 |
rubenwardy |
on my server, items are taking ages to move, yet players seem to move ok |
| 18:32 |
rubenwardy |
I took an item from a chest and put it into my inventory. It disappears from the chest, and doesn't reappear. I keep taking items, none appear in my inventory. When the chest is empty it disapears which shows that the server knows that you've taken items (chests disappear when empty) |
| 18:33 |
rubenwardy |
about a minute later the items appear in the inventory |
| 18:33 |
rubenwardy |
I recently pushed a commit which, every 10 seconds, sends 6*3 hud updates to each player |
| 18:34 |
rubenwardy |
the packet counter records an average of about 10 per second |
| 18:34 |
rubenwardy |
Every so often it goes to 25 |
| 18:35 |
rubenwardy |
Both the server and I have 100 Mbps connections. |
| 18:36 |
rubenwardy |
!c 6*3*18 |
| 18:36 |
ShadowBot |
rubenwardy: math calc <math expression> |
| 18:36 |
rubenwardy |
!math calc 6*3*18 |
| 18:37 |
ShadowBot |
rubenwardy: 324 |
| 18:37 |
rubenwardy |
that's my answer, I guess. It must be filling up the buffers |
| 18:49 |
celeron55 |
rubenwardy: there may have been some node metadata sending changes lately |
| 18:49 |
celeron55 |
(i'm not sure if they have been merged yet) |
| 18:50 |
celeron55 |
if they have been, they could be the reason |
| 18:50 |
Fixer |
not yet merged i believe |
| 18:50 |
rubenwardy |
my server is running b9068 |
| 18:50 |
rubenwardy |
Revert "Translated using Weblate (German)" |
| 18:55 |
rubenwardy |
I wish there were more tools to see where the network is getting clogged up at |
| 18:55 |
rubenwardy |
heh |
| 19:02 |
paramat |
game#1014 is ready for review |
| 19:02 |
ShadowBot |
paramat: Error: Delimiter not found in "Page is too big or the server took too much time to answer the request." |
| 19:02 |
paramat |
yep github is slow |
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rubenwardy |
That's not funny |
| 19:09 |
Obani |
Ban this ip |
| 19:09 |
Obani |
wait |
| 19:09 |
Obani |
it was voiced ? |
| 19:09 |
Taoki |
It might be someone who's opening one of his computers |
| 19:09 |
rubenwardy |
<realbadangel__> Sorry that Me Mati`1 |
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sofar |
it's a good time to revoke his github privs, or check that it has |
| 19:52 |
sofar |
nore: VanessaE: ShadowNinja: what about minetest-technic? |
| 19:54 |
rubenwardy |
He's not a core dev in minetest |
| 19:54 |
sofar |
it was a more general comment. he may have push privs to other peoples repos. |
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est31 |
hmmmm, seen my message? |
| 21:47 |
est31 |
http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2016-04-05#i_4575599 |
| 22:01 |
est31 |
about the wikipedia discussion: I'm afraid we must play with their terms |
| 22:01 |
est31 |
we have to get newspapers / news websites that are large enough to feature minetest |
| 22:01 |
est31 |
the best thing to get that happen is to write to them |
| 22:02 |
est31 |
press releases when we do a new release |
| 22:02 |
est31 |
etc |
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nrzkt |
est31, in fact a new release should be done before doing that. then release this 0.4.14 and stop waiting for god |
| 22:04 |
jin_xi |
huh |
| 22:05 |
est31 |
is there somebody who can do that |
| 22:05 |
est31 |
write press releases? |
| 22:07 |
nore |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/compare/master...Ekdohibs:die_fix |
| 22:07 |
nore |
github won't let me create a pull request :/ |
| 22:10 |
nore |
#3965 |
| 22:10 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3965 -- Fix #3955 by Ekdohibs |
| 22:11 |
est31 |
Perhaps a nicer commit msg |
| 22:11 |
est31 |
with the results of the discussion in 3955 |
| 22:11 |
nore |
est31: will do |
| 22:11 |
nore |
Fixer: could you check it works please? |
| 22:12 |
est31 |
you know, first line concise, second line empty, third line and following with text |
| 22:14 |
nore |
est31: done :) |
| 22:14 |
est31 |
did you push? |
| 22:14 |
est31 |
ah |
| 22:14 |
nore |
yep |
| 22:14 |
est31 |
yeah got it |
| 22:14 |
est31 |
+1 |
| 22:15 |
nore |
github is a bit slow though :/ |
| 22:15 |
est31 |
nore, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3955#issuecomment-206006506 |
| 22:16 |
nore |
est31: replied to your comment |
| 22:17 |
est31 |
not that its a bug and we are missing it :) |
| 22:18 |
nore |
would be good if someone could check it works before merging though |
| 22:18 |
* nore |
goes to bed |
| 22:19 |
est31 |
bye |
| 22:19 |
est31 |
and thanks for the fix |
| 22:19 |
celeron55 |
what would the press release after 0.4.14's release even say? |
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celeron55 |
"we've been making this minetest thing for quite some years now and released a new version; it doesn't really do anything spectacular but here are one hundred tiny changes; don't ask for a mission statement or anything because that didn't really happen even while one person got a bit mad about it missing" |
| 22:23 |
celeron55 |
i'm the best marketer, hands down |
| 22:23 |
est31 |
:) |
| 22:24 |
celeron55 |
the website traffic pretty much doubled today |
| 22:25 |
rubenwardy |
from Linux reddit, you think? |
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est31 |
it was all the minetest subreddit |
| 22:25 |
est31 |
what else |
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Fixer |
nore, i'm back |
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Hijiri |
what happened with wikipedia, minetest not notable enough? |
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Fixer |
i actually proud of 0.4.14 |
| 22:28 |
Fixer |
'm |
| 22:29 |
Fixer |
nore, check #3955? i will do it, need 30 min |
| 22:29 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3955 -- Death on login [commit with regression identified] |
| 22:30 |
est31 |
http://pasteboard.co/2Odh3F2M.png |
| 22:30 |
est31 |
nothing much has changed on github |
| 22:31 |
Fixer |
i want to go back to HEAD, do i need git checkout HEAD? |
| 22:31 |
est31 |
no |
| 22:31 |
est31 |
that makes no sense |
| 22:32 |
est31 |
except your working directory isn't clean |
| 22:32 |
Fixer |
i'm at sep 26 2015 now, i need to go back to newest |
| 22:32 |
est31 |
do git log |
| 22:32 |
est31 |
ah to newest |
| 22:32 |
est31 |
git checkout origin/master |
| 22:32 |
est31 |
that's the newest |
| 22:33 |
est31 |
(or upstream/master) |
| 22:34 |
est31 |
ookay celeron55 you say when I press the "merge PR" button ,it won't create a merge commit? |
| 22:34 |
est31 |
lets try it |
| 22:34 |
celeron55 |
rubenwardy: i don't collect proper statistics to really say, but there are a lot of referer entries from that article and reddit |
| 22:35 |
est31 |
somehow this UI is weird |
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| 22:35 |
Fixer |
ok, compile time |
| 22:36 |
est31 |
ah nice |
| 22:36 |
est31 |
it works https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/24b32ab09d1967866ddc092cadc6f6d678dac0c6 |
| 22:37 |
Fixer |
thanks for info |
| 22:38 |
Fixer |
ugh |
| 22:40 |
Fixer |
missed new commit by 1 minute |
| 22:41 |
celeron55 |
rubenwardy: or, well, i mean, there are a lot of statistics from www.minetest.net; that one tells me that practically nobody came from reddit and everyone from ocsmag.com |
| 22:41 |
celeron55 |
but in there it was only like a 50% increase |
| 22:41 |
rubenwardy |
makes sense, as there were no links to minetest.net but there was in ocsmag.con |
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| 23:07 |
Fixer |
nore, fixes issue for me |
| 23:09 |
est31 |
great |
| 23:09 |
est31 |
then I'm merging the PR |
| 23:09 |
est31 |
(nore's in bed) |
| 23:10 |
Fixer |
i will play it locally to see if smth breaks |
| 23:11 |
Fixer |
i doubt it breaks anything, nice that nore fixed it, this is horrible bug |
| 23:12 |
Fixer |
O_O paramats v7 is sooo strange at times /O_O |
| 23:14 |
Fixer |
never seen anything like this before: https://i.imgur.com/9WkNgWp.jpg |
| 23:18 |
sofar |
yeah, it can get neat |
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| 23:54 |
Fixer |
oh damn |
| 23:54 |
Fixer |
another possible light in caves bug :/ |
| 23:54 |
Fixer |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3964 |
| 23:55 |
Fixer |
can't reproduce yet |
