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hmmmm |
Zeno`: Hey I haven't read much of the backlog to answer your question, 0.4.12 can be released when that super nasty performance regression is fixed |
| 05:32 |
Zeno` |
ok, just wanted to make sure that was the major stumbling block |
| 05:34 |
Zeno` |
It's not the easiest regression in the world to find :/ |
| 05:35 |
est31 |
havent you found it |
| 05:35 |
est31 |
that viewrange adjustment? |
| 05:35 |
Zeno` |
nah, it's not that |
| 05:36 |
Zeno` |
I am now suspecting the MeshUpdateThread |
| 05:37 |
Zeno` |
hmmmm, have you had any luck with it? |
| 05:37 |
hmmmm |
i haven't had any chance to look at it |
| 05:37 |
Zeno` |
est31, I asked Wayward_One to try something for me but I'm not sure if he did or not |
| 05:38 |
est31 |
did the bisect you did fail? |
| 05:39 |
Zeno` |
it didn't go so well, no |
| 05:42 |
Zeno` |
Mainly because I have to artificially slow things down to actually experience the issue |
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* Zeno` |
doesn't understand |
| 06:21 |
Zeno` |
#2252 |
| 06:21 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2252 -- Framerate cut in half, HUD problem ? |
| 06:22 |
hmmmm |
whaat |
| 06:22 |
est31 |
is this dpi calculation going on every draw? |
| 06:23 |
hmmmm |
oh shit.. |
| 06:23 |
Zeno` |
when I am running in callgrind drawtime with hud disabled is ~35. with hud enabled drawtime is about 250 |
| 06:23 |
Zeno` |
average 200 |
| 06:23 |
Zeno` |
that's a pretty large difference |
| 06:23 |
est31 |
can you try whether you get it with other formspec too |
| 06:24 |
est31 |
or is HUD no formspec |
| 06:25 |
Zeno` |
inventory formspec open or closed makes not much difference (if any) |
| 06:27 |
hmmmm |
yuppers |
| 06:27 |
hmmmm |
try reverting e201620ee1051545ed7856fb18f805c67adccc85 |
| 06:28 |
hmmmm |
rather not that one |
| 06:30 |
hmmmm |
0f1d33933d264fa84b2d97668258d066da0ca01c |
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| 06:39 |
Zeno` |
+1 |
| 06:39 |
Zeno` |
drawtime is now the same with or without HUD |
| 06:40 |
Zeno` |
~~40.... rather than 200 :) |
| 06:41 |
est31 |
as it seems its doing a call to XOpenDisplay and XCloseDisplay at every render loop |
| 06:41 |
hmmmm |
christ |
| 06:41 |
hmmmm |
thanks a lot sapier :) |
| 06:42 |
hmmmm |
thanks Zeno`, est31, for tracking this down |
| 06:42 |
hmmmm |
you guys are awesome |
| 06:42 |
hmmmm |
I feel bad for not doing anything to help :( |
| 06:42 |
est31 |
Zeno` did the time intensive work |
| 06:43 |
Zeno` |
hmmmm, you can help by checking my conflict resolution ;) |
| 06:43 |
Zeno` |
will push in a second |
| 06:43 |
hmmmm |
well |
| 06:43 |
hmmmm |
obviously don't revert the commit |
| 06:43 |
hmmmm |
just cache the value |
| 06:43 |
est31 |
^ |
| 06:44 |
Zeno` |
duh |
| 06:44 |
* Zeno` |
slaps himself. wake up |
| 06:44 |
hmmmm |
lol |
| 06:44 |
hmmmm |
what time is it there in aussieland |
| 06:45 |
est31 |
lol its calling that 4 times |
| 06:46 |
hmmmm |
now I suppose the real question is why bisecting failed here |
| 06:46 |
hmmmm |
we want to learn from our mistakes |
| 06:47 |
Zeno` |
there was no real way for me to measure it :/ |
| 06:48 |
Zeno` |
/ctcp time Zeno` |
| 06:48 |
Zeno` |
might not work |
| 06:49 |
Zeno` |
haha |
| 06:49 |
hmmmm |
lol |
| 06:49 |
hmmmm |
you inverted your arguments |
| 06:49 |
Zeno` |
4:50PM Thursday |
| 06:49 |
hmmmm |
you're not supposed to fall asleep BEFORE dinner |
| 06:49 |
Zeno` |
oh :) |
| 06:50 |
Zeno` |
why not? |
| 06:50 |
hmmmm |
because you get tired after you eat |
| 06:51 |
* Zeno` |
makes a note |
| 06:51 |
hmmmm |
I wish you could set color themes for windbg :( |
| 06:51 |
hmmmm |
white backgrounds == eyerape at night |
| 06:51 |
Zeno` |
windbg? |
| 06:52 |
Zeno` |
https://github.com/Zeno-/minetest/commit/970b75550a36b6812432c7c3cc6665e9c0dc639f |
| 06:53 |
est31 |
I'd cache it inside porting.cpp |
| 06:53 |
hmmmm |
probably a better idea |
| 06:53 |
hmmmm |
i was just about to say that fontengine could use that too |
| 06:53 |
Zeno` |
ok |
| 06:54 |
est31 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/search?p=1&q=getDisplayDensity&utf8=%E2%9C%93 |
| 06:55 |
est31 |
when the progress bar at loading is drawn its called too |
| 06:56 |
est31 |
and at other places |
| 06:59 |
Zeno` |
ugh, it's a float |
| 07:00 |
Zeno` |
will have to add an is_cached bool I guess |
| 07:00 |
est31 |
or cache it everywhere |
| 07:01 |
Zeno` |
nah I mean I was just going to set it to -1 if not initialised |
| 07:01 |
Zeno` |
but I don't like comparing floats; would rather add the bool |
| 07:02 |
est31 |
ah you want to calculate it at the first draw? |
| 07:02 |
Zeno` |
yeah |
| 07:02 |
Zeno` |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/2260 |
| 07:03 |
Zeno` |
where did you mean to cache it? |
| 07:04 |
est31 |
when the program starts |
| 07:04 |
Zeno` |
add an initDisplayDensity() function or something? |
| 07:04 |
est31 |
static float c_display_density = getDisplayDensity(); |
| 07:04 |
Zeno` |
and have it as global? |
| 07:04 |
Zeno` |
oh |
| 07:04 |
Zeno` |
yeah |
| 07:04 |
est31 |
the way you do it, it is regenerated every iteration |
| 07:04 |
est31 |
:) |
| 07:04 |
Zeno` |
no it's not :p |
| 07:05 |
est31 |
ahh ok youre right |
| 07:08 |
Zeno` |
this is an alternative: https://gist.github.com/Zeno-/1d01769ee969ebeec50c |
| 07:08 |
Zeno` |
I probably like that better |
| 07:09 |
Zeno` |
saves a conditional :3 |
| 07:09 |
Zeno` |
lol |
| 07:09 |
Zeno` |
I leave it to you and hmmmm to vote |
| 07:10 |
Zeno` |
I'm going with the gist... updating PR |
| 07:10 |
hmmmm |
wait make that g_static_cached_display_density |
| 07:11 |
Zeno` |
it's not global |
| 07:11 |
hmmmm |
ohhh |
| 07:11 |
hmmmm |
sorry i misread that |
| 07:11 |
hmmmm |
yup sounds good |
| 07:11 |
Zeno` |
#2260 |
| 07:11 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2260 -- Fix performance regression by Zeno- |
| 07:11 |
est31 |
it was my idea, so why be against it? :) |
| 07:11 |
Zeno` |
merging soon then |
| 07:11 |
hmmmm |
LGTM |
| 07:12 |
Zeno` |
thanks for the help hmmmm and est31 |
| 07:12 |
hmmmm |
the coding purists are probably rolling in their graves right now |
| 07:12 |
hmmmm |
OH MY GOD GLOBAL STATIC VARIABLES |
| 07:12 |
est31 |
1 question: does this also get executed for the server? |
| 07:12 |
hmmmm |
WHY AREN'T YOU USING A SINGLETON DESIGN PATTERN WITH WIN-WIN SYNERGY AND REACTOR OBSERVER MVCS |
| 07:12 |
est31 |
because then the other might seem better |
| 07:12 |
Zeno` |
heh |
| 07:12 |
Tesseract |
Zeno`: Wait. |
| 07:13 |
* Zeno` |
halts |
| 07:13 |
hmmmm |
est31, it doesn't get executed for the server unless XORG_USED is defined |
| 07:13 |
Tesseract |
Zeno`: Make it a static inside the function. No global needed. |
| 07:13 |
est31 |
that was the approach before |
| 07:13 |
Zeno` |
swap it back? lol |
| 07:13 |
est31 |
(the alternative) |
| 07:13 |
Tesseract |
static x = init(); return x; |
| 07:14 |
Tesseract |
Zeno`: If that's what you had before. |
| 07:14 |
Zeno` |
oh. ok |
| 07:14 |
hmmmm |
thats' better |
| 07:14 |
hmmmm |
also it's probably a good idea to change getDisplayDensity_init to something like... calcDisplayDensity |
| 07:15 |
hmmmm |
and don't make it static so other people can call it if they explicitly want to |
| 07:15 |
hmmmm |
for whatever odd reason... |
| 07:16 |
Zeno` |
demands, demands, demands |
| 07:16 |
Zeno` |
changing now |
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* est31 |
is happy the issue got nailed down |
| 07:17 |
hmmmm |
me too =] |
| 07:20 |
Zeno` |
calcDisplayDensity() being public... kind of silly imo |
| 07:20 |
Zeno` |
I'll have to add versions for non xorg builds :/ |
| 07:20 |
hmmmm |
oh |
| 07:20 |
hmmmm |
nevermind |
| 07:21 |
Tesseract |
Oh, I mentioned two bugfix pulls a few hours ago -- did you check those? |
| 07:21 |
hmmmm |
i forgot about that |
| 07:21 |
* Tesseract |
looks for #s |
| 07:21 |
Zeno` |
good :) |
| 07:21 |
Zeno` |
didn't want to type toooooo much |
| 07:21 |
Zeno` |
heh |
| 07:21 |
Tesseract |
#2245 & #2256 |
| 07:21 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2245 -- Fix dying of lava causes repeated death by gregorycu |
| 07:21 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2256 -- Give full breath after death by SmallJoker |
| 07:23 |
Tesseract |
Zeno`: Your patch LGTM now. |
| 07:24 |
Zeno` |
ok thank you |
| 07:25 |
Tesseract |
hmmmm: Those two O.K.? |
| 07:26 |
Zeno` |
2256 is fine; I looked at it last night |
| 07:26 |
Zeno` |
2245 makes sense as well |
| 07:28 |
Tesseract |
Zeno`: Great! Can you also check #2176? It's a bit bigger. |
| 07:29 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2176 -- Fix translation issues by ShadowNinja |
| 07:30 |
Tesseract |
Oh, and you can merge those two, or wait til tomorrow and I'll do it then. |
| 07:30 |
Zeno` |
Ok, I'll merge mine and those 2 in a few minutes |
| 07:30 |
Zeno` |
2176 may take me a while to look through |
| 07:33 |
hmmmm |
yeah those works |
| 07:34 |
hmmmm |
I would prefer that he used getS32NoEx() instead but it's fine |
| 07:34 |
hmmmm |
yeah those work* |
| 07:36 |
Tesseract |
hmmmm: What are you reffering to by getS32NoEx? None of the last 4 patches mentioned uses it or a related function. |
| 07:37 |
hmmmm |
https://github.com/SmallJoker/minetest/commit/28e0c9ba5e9a31519f896dbca297249f0d2f627e ???? |
| 07:37 |
hmmmm |
am I going nuts |
| 07:38 |
hmmmm |
try { foo = args.getS32("foo"); } catch (SettingNotFoundException &e) { foo = FOO_DEFAULT; } can be replaced with foo = FOO_DEFAULT; args.getS32NoEx("foo", foo); |
| 07:39 |
Tesseract |
Ah, yes. He didn't write that, but it could be amended. |
| 07:39 |
hmmmm |
for some reason I thought that was gregorycu's commit |
| 07:39 |
hmmmm |
hmm |
| 07:39 |
hmmmm |
yea it's okay like i said, not a deal breaker by any means |
| 07:40 |
Tesseract |
Alright. It would be great if you could check out my translation pull too hmmmm. But G'Night now. o/ |
| 07:41 |
hmmmm |
good night |
| 07:42 |
hmmmm |
excellent |
| 07:42 |
hmmmm |
2176 looks great to me. lots of nagging issues fixed |
| 07:44 |
Zeno` |
night |
| 07:44 |
* Zeno` |
looks outside. It's still light |
| 07:46 |
hmmmm |
the days pass by way too quickly |
| 07:51 |
Zeno` |
I'd prefer the comment // You must free the returned string! (const wchar_t *narrow_to_wide_c(const char *mbs)) to actually indicate that the mem was allocated with new, but that's being pedantic (i.e. 2176 looks fine to me) |
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paramat |
hmmmm, if you have time #2229 is ready (good screenshots too) |
| 08:11 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2229 -- Mgv7: Bugfixes for 0.4.12 and update conf.example by paramat |
| 08:13 |
Zeno` |
The endless vertical walls has been the main reason I've avoided mgv7 so far |
| 08:15 |
paramat |
they only occur if you use custom noiseparams in a recent version, i removed a rangelim a few weeks ago :} |
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hmmmm |
great stuff |
| 08:21 |
hmmmm |
paramat, do you have anything more you'd like me to merge while i'm at it? |
| 08:21 |
paramat |
wow nice fix, my latest build runs faster now |
| 08:21 |
paramat |
nothing else thanks |
| 08:21 |
hmmmm |
btw add an extra newline in between your first and second lines in the git commit |
| 08:22 |
hmmmm |
that way when it gets printed as a single line only the first line gets printed |
| 08:22 |
paramat |
okay, looks neater |
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paramat |
recently, every time i started a new world and first turned around i noticed the terrain would take ages to appear, now fixed |
| 08:25 |
paramat |
by the HUD bugfix |
| 08:25 |
hmmmm |
amazing how such an inoccuous looking commit could have such a big effect |
| 08:26 |
hmmmm |
so glad we didn't release this without fixing the regression |
| 08:26 |
hmmmm |
in any case, 0.4.12 is supposed to last us a while before 1.0.0 |
| 08:27 |
paramat |
im working on improved noiseparams for mgv7, the cliffs work if you boost the noise scale to 20+, i can get nice mgv6 type terrain now |
| 08:27 |
hmmmm |
but one question: |
| 08:27 |
hmmmm |
how did that have anything to do with singleplayer? |
| 08:29 |
hmmmm |
boost what noise scale to 20+? |
| 08:29 |
paramat |
ah i see mediacrush is closing down |
| 08:30 |
paramat |
mgv7_np_height_select = 0, 20, (500, 500, 500), 4213, 5, 0.7, 2.0 |
| 08:30 |
hmmmm |
so it DID work |
| 08:30 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: wait, the formspec scaling thing still needs fixed |
| 08:30 |
hmmmm |
VanessaE, ?? whathhahtah |
| 08:31 |
hmmmm |
I am so not getting involved with the formspec scaling issue |
| 08:31 |
VanessaE |
look at the pause menu at different window sizes. |
| 08:31 |
VanessaE |
also the HUD. |
| 08:31 |
paramat |
perhaps some donation maoney could fund image hosting for MT, it's always a problem for me, back to imgur |
| 08:31 |
VanessaE |
well that should be fixed before 0.4.12 goes out, it's a regression |
| 08:31 |
nrzkt |
VanessaE, approved |
| 08:34 |
paramat |
hmmmm, http://i.imgur.com/lLg0RES.png |
| 08:34 |
nrzkt |
wtf xD |
| 08:35 |
hmmmm |
well that's interesting terrain to say the least |
| 08:35 |
paramat |
next i'll tune the 3d mountain noise, i could even use it to create floatlands throughout the atmosphere if you guys approve |
| 08:41 |
paramat |
so i have a feel now for what you were attempting with v7 base terrain, my work has been to realise that, using the existing code if possible |
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paramat |
so, in mgv7 rare and scattered 3d noise can be the floatlands but also the mountains where they intersect the ground. i have been getting requests for 'levels' in core mapgen. the floatland noiseparams could be an alternative set, not necessarily the default :) |
| 08:46 |
paramat |
http://i.imgur.com/jnZ15hj.png |
| 08:46 |
VanessaE |
O_o |
| 08:47 |
VanessaE |
looks like a technological ant colony |
| 08:48 |
paramat |
my 'projecs' mod. very neglected mod with huge potential for endless growing architecture |
| 08:48 |
paramat |
must work on it .. |
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puhfa |
Calinou: hmm, lowered gain to .5 and max_hear_distance to 6, still hearing it full-force at 200 m |
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puhfa |
is there a good working example in one of the mods? |
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VanessaE |
puhfa: homedecor's door sounds. |
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puhfa |
ty |
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VanessaE |
pos, gain and max_hear_distance have to all be specified, and the sound has to be 1-channel (mono) |
| 11:09 |
VanessaE |
otherwise it won't behave as you expect it to |
| 11:10 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack/blob/master/homedecor/doors_and_gates.lua#L414 |
| 11:10 |
VanessaE |
example ^^^ |
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puhfa |
yes, just copied those parameters, still the same |
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puhfa |
arent you using oggs there as well? |
| 11:11 |
VanessaE |
yep. |
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puhfa |
weird |
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VanessaE |
make sure your sound file is mono |
| 11:11 |
puhfa |
oh |
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puhfa |
it should be |
| 11:14 |
puhfa |
well, it is |
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VanessaE |
*shrug* |
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gregorycu |
So, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/9a0dd47057cad18522e43d159a06c856dfdeeef4 fixes perf issues? |
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gregorycu |
Ahh linux only, can't really look at that |
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gregorycu |
game time |
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paramat |
hmmmm #2175 is ready for review and merge O/ |
| 12:57 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2175 -- Mgv5: Remove blobgen, add large caves. De-link terrain level from water level. by paramat |
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Wayward_One |
latest git still gives me the massive lag in singleplayer :( |
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Zeno` |
Wayward_One, but changing the thread priority (the patch I asked you to test last night) made a difference? |
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Wayward_One |
it seemed to, a little |
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Zeno` |
sigh |
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Zeno` |
can you try the patch again now? (on top of latest git)? |
| 13:57 |
Zeno` |
and maybe change the line (in client.cpp) porting::threadSetPriority(threadId(), 9); to porting::threadSetPriority(threadId(), 20); |
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Wayward_One |
ok |
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Zeno` |
'tis driving me nuts |
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Wayward_One |
sorry, lost the link >.< |
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nrzkt |
Zeno`, can you look at your PM ? :) |
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Zeno` |
I don't have any PMs (?) |
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nrzkt |
strange, i have a working conversation with you on IRC |
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nrzkt |
pidgin doesn't tell me there is a problem |
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Zeno` |
lol |
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sfan5 |
nrzkt: tip: pidgin is a bad irc client |
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nrzkt |
sfan5 maybe but it's my choice and it works properly for my needs. |
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Calinou |
translations don't work in latest Git |
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Tesseract |
Calinou: Specify "don't work". |
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Calinou |
the game just uses English |
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Calinou |
no errors in log |
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Tesseract |
I tested with language=es and it worked in spanish for me. |
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Calinou |
I'll try manually specifying language |
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Tesseract |
You've got gettext support enabled, translations compiled, and are using a supported laguage? |
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Calinou |
yes (French) |
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Calinou |
-- GetText enabled; locales found: |
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Zeno` |
Wayward_One, do you experience the singleplayer lag issue with 0.4.11? |
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Zeno` |
or 0.4.10? |
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Tesseract |
Calinou: Manual language works or not? |
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Calinou |
nope |
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Tesseract |
Calinou: Found the issue. *grumbles something about C's stupid preprocessing functionality* |
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Tesseract |
Calinou: Fixed. |
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Zeno` |
the c preprocessor is great! |
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Wayward_One |
Zeno`, just tested 0.4.10, lag seemed normal, let me try 0.4.11 |
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Zeno` |
the C preprocessor is the greatest invention since sliced mushrooms |
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Tesseract |
Zeno`: Maybe, but it could stand some improvement, like "#if LOLNOTDEFINED" being an error. |
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Zeno` |
you can do that with #error can't you? |
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Zeno` |
e.g. #ifndef LOL #error "oops" #endif |
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Tesseract |
Zeno`: No, I mean using undefined values should be an error, like "if (typodvarname)" is an error. |
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Tesseract |
Zeno`: You could do that of course, but it adds three lines to every use of #if on a defined constant. |
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Zeno` |
make a macro! :) |
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init |
make a macro that adds a macro for you |
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init |
s/adds/makes |
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Zeno` |
j/k ... the thing is it failed and was easy to find. Stuff happens. |
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Zeno` |
i.e. no big deal IMO :P |
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Wuzzy |
Hi! Is the bug that the big subgame logo in the main menu is not shown for some resolutions already known? |
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VanessaE |
as far as I can see it's only omitted if it won't fit |
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VanessaE |
(just tried it) |
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Wuzzy |
Yes, that's what I meant. |
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Wuzzy |
But isn't the logo scaled anyways? So this behavior is inconsistent |
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VanessaE |
it only scales with window witch |
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VanessaE |
width* |
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VanessaE |
ah |
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Wuzzy |
Hmpf, this sucks. :-( |
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VanessaE |
but the formspecs scale with window *height |
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VanessaE |
therein lies the problem |
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Wuzzy |
So: Should I report on GitHub? :P |
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Wuzzy |
or is this not news to you? |
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VanessaE |
I knew the scaling was undesirable, but I didn't know the two were scaling by different "keys". definitely report it. |
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VanessaE |
(scaling of formspecs is undesirable I mean) |
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VanessaE |
I believe I made the suggestion once before, but I will say it again for the record: if you're gonna scale something in a windowed setting like this, you need to scale based on the smaller of width vs. height of the window at any given moment, not just arbitrarily pick one or the other ahead of time. |
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VanessaE |
and apply that idea to every element/group where there's window-size-based scaling, so stuff like your bug doesn't happen. |
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VanessaE |
(nevermind that formspecs shouldn't scale to *begin* with) |
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Wuzzy |
Reported. Issue #2262. |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2262 -- Subgame banner is hidden for wide windows |
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est31 |
Wuzzy: add screenshot? |
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Wuzzy |
if you insist ... |
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Wuzzy |
but its REALLY easy to test IMO |
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Wuzzy |
just start minetest and scale the window around and see what happens |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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sofar |
VanessaE: do you happen to know if PilzAdam is still active? He's made a ton of mods that are useful but I don't see him doing much maintenance on them. |
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shadowzone |
So, is there gonna be a release anytime soon? Cause I think Zeno` assigned me to change logs. |
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