| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:25 |
Piggybear87 |
Where would I find libgd? I need it to make minetest mapper. The C++ one. |
| 00:30 |
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| 00:32 |
VanessaE |
Piggybear87: libgd2-xpm-dev - GD Graphics Library (transitional package) |
| 00:32 |
VanessaE |
(or -noxpm- if you don't want to have that capability, should some other lib also need it) |
| 00:33 |
Piggybear87 |
I got ligbd-dev and it's compiling now. I guess anything with libgd works. Lol. |
| 00:33 |
VanessaE |
yup |
| 00:33 |
VanessaE |
sorry I missed you earlier, I had to turn my attention elsewhere., |
| 00:34 |
Piggybear87 |
It's ok. I got fed up with that guy though so I rage-quit for a few to cool off. |
| 00:35 |
Piggybear87 |
Now I have the C++ minetestmapper. How do I use it? |
| 00:36 |
VanessaE |
one sec |
| 00:36 |
Piggybear87 |
OK. |
| 00:36 |
VanessaE |
had to get my switches :) |
| 00:36 |
VanessaE |
you seen my worldmaps? |
| 00:36 |
Piggybear87 |
No. |
| 00:37 |
VanessaE |
./minetestmapper --drawscale --geometry -5000:-7500+12000+15000 -backend xxxxxx -i /path/to/your/world_folder -o /path/to/your/output_image.png |
| 00:37 |
VanessaE |
where xxxxxx is either leveldb or sqlite3 |
| 00:37 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/worldmaps/Creative_World.png |
| 00:37 |
VanessaE |
it will produce images like this ^^^^ |
| 00:39 |
VanessaE |
you can leave the geometry arguments off if you want it to just render the whole world |
| 00:39 |
VanessaE |
and if you just do minetestmapper with no arguments at all it will give you a summary of the other switches that are available |
| 00:40 |
VanessaE |
it can done some fancy shit like translucent water for example |
| 00:40 |
VanessaE |
do some* |
| 00:40 |
VanessaE |
(I'll have to try that one later, myself)( |
| 00:41 |
Piggybear87 |
Wow, I can't open that link.. My machine just lagged horribly.. Is there a way to make some like 2000x2000? |
| 00:41 |
VanessaE |
yes, the geometry argument does that |
| 00:42 |
VanessaE |
--geometry centerX:centerY+sizeX+sizeY |
| 00:42 |
VanessaE |
(where either of both of centerX/centerY can be positive or negative) |
| 00:43 |
VanessaE |
here's the reduced version of that image, which I use in the forum posts as clickable link/preview: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/worldmaps/Creative_World-small.png |
| 00:44 |
Piggybear87 |
So from 0,0,0 I would put? |
| 00:45 |
VanessaE |
0:0+XXXXX+YYYYY |
| 00:45 |
VanessaE |
for whatever size XXXXXX x YYYY you want |
| 00:45 |
VanessaE |
no wait |
| 00:46 |
VanessaE |
the center is relative to the size of the image |
| 00:46 |
Piggybear87 |
ok "0:" is the start point? and then 2000 x 2000? |
| 00:47 |
VanessaE |
if your map is centered at 0,0,0 and you want it to be 2000x2000 then you'd do something like -1000:-1000+2000+2000 |
| 00:49 |
VanessaE |
brb |
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| 00:53 |
Piggybear87 |
cj cj-T3882:~/minetestmapper$ ./minetestmapper --drawscale --geometry -1000:-1000+20002000 -backend sqlite3 -i /home/cj/minetest-minetest-832d797/worlds/Server -o home/cj/desktop/map.png |
| 00:54 |
Piggybear87 |
And I get the options... |
| 00:54 |
Piggybear87 |
I did something wrong. |
| 00:54 |
Piggybear87 |
OH! |
| 00:57 |
VanessaE |
well? |
| 00:57 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 00:57 |
* VanessaE |
waits for links... |
| 00:57 |
Piggybear87 |
Now I just get a bunch of unknown nodes. |
| 00:58 |
VanessaE |
that's normal |
| 00:58 |
VanessaE |
the mapper can't know ALL of them after all |
| 00:58 |
VanessaE |
but it only tells you of the ones it didn't recognize |
| 00:58 |
VanessaE |
look at colors.txt in the mapper dir |
| 00:58 |
VanessaE |
you can see what it already knows about |
| 00:59 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/colors.txt |
| 00:59 |
VanessaE |
you can pull some entries from this also |
| 00:59 |
VanessaE |
whatever's missing from the default one you might be able to find here. |
| 00:59 |
VanessaE |
(but most likely, the default already has most of that) |
| 01:01 |
Piggybear87 |
It has all of mesecons and homedecor, but not moretrees, flowers, and bushes. |
| 01:01 |
VanessaE |
mine has those |
| 01:02 |
VanessaE |
copy&paste from mine into your mapper's default colors.txt and just re-run it |
| 01:04 |
Piggybear87 |
OK. As far as links are concerned, I barely started with my spawn. Lol. |
| 01:04 |
VanessaE |
strange thing is, my overview map clearly has moretrees et al. in it |
| 01:05 |
VanessaE |
which items weren't recognized? (just for example) |
| 01:07 |
Piggybear87 |
http://pastebin.com/XzRE3xbP |
| 01:07 |
VanessaE |
interesting |
| 01:07 |
Piggybear87 |
Is there a way to make it ignore? because flowers and bushes still don't work. |
| 01:08 |
VanessaE |
you have to supply colors.txt entries |
| 01:08 |
VanessaE |
otherwise those nodes simply won't appear on the image at all |
| 01:08 |
Piggybear87 |
I don't care about those showing up, It just wont make the map right now. |
| 01:09 |
VanessaE |
ok, your copy of the mapper is not right |
| 01:09 |
VanessaE |
your colors.txt is either missing or broken |
| 01:09 |
VanessaE |
or something. |
| 01:09 |
VanessaE |
hrm |
| 01:09 |
VanessaE |
wait. |
| 01:09 |
Piggybear87 |
Nope, it's there. |
| 01:10 |
VanessaE |
ah |
| 01:10 |
VanessaE |
I see |
| 01:10 |
VanessaE |
indeed moretrees never made it into the default colors.txt |
| 01:10 |
* VanessaE |
pokes sfan5 |
| 01:10 |
VanessaE |
copy&paste the entries from mine into yours |
| 01:11 |
Piggybear87 |
I did. |
| 01:11 |
VanessaE |
re-run the mapper now :) |
| 01:11 |
Piggybear87 |
My input = cjcj-T3882:~/minetestmapper$ ./minetestmapper --drawscale --geometry -1000:-1000+2000+2000 --backend sqlite3 -i /home/cj/minetest-minetest-832d797/worlds/Server -o map.png |
| 01:11 |
Piggybear87 |
And the output = cjcj-T3882:~/minetestmapper$ ./minetestmapper --drawscale --geometry -1000:-1000+2000+2000 --backend sqlite3 -i /home/cj/minetest-minetest-832d797/worlds/Server -o map.png |
| 01:11 |
Piggybear87 |
Sorry. Unknown nodes: |
| 01:11 |
Piggybear87 |
bushes:blackberry_bush |
| 01:11 |
Piggybear87 |
bushes:blueberry_bush |
| 01:11 |
Piggybear87 |
bushes:raspberry_bush |
| 01:11 |
Piggybear87 |
flowers:seaweed_2 |
| 01:11 |
Piggybear87 |
flowers:seaweed_3 |
| 01:11 |
Piggybear87 |
flowers:seaweed_4 |
| 01:11 |
Piggybear87 |
flowers:waterlily_s1 |
| 01:12 |
Piggybear87 |
flowers:waterlily_s2 |
| 01:12 |
VanessaE |
whao whoia |
| 01:12 |
kaeza |
:| |
| 01:12 |
Piggybear87 |
flowers:waterlily_s3 |
| 01:12 |
VanessaE |
stop |
| 01:12 |
Piggybear87 |
flowers:waterlily_s4 |
| 01:12 |
VanessaE |
halten |
| 01:12 |
VanessaE |
alto |
| 01:12 |
VanessaE |
those nodes are supplied by the plantlife modpack. |
| 01:12 |
VanessaE |
though mine are outdated |
| 01:13 |
VanessaE |
(my colors entries) |
| 01:13 |
VanessaE |
just ignore those |
| 01:14 |
Piggybear87 |
One more time. It won't ignore. It just gives me that output and doesn't make a map. |
| 01:15 |
VanessaE |
check again |
| 01:15 |
VanessaE |
it *will* make a map |
| 01:15 |
VanessaE |
even if it has unknown nodes |
| 01:16 |
VanessaE |
it's not segfaulting or something is it? |
| 01:16 |
VanessaE |
brb |
| 01:17 |
Piggybear87 |
Ok, I was looking in the wrong place, but it's not the right size. I can fiddle with that to get it right though. |
| 01:19 |
VanessaE |
yeah, it'll stop at the map's extents |
| 01:20 |
VanessaE |
so if you try to render say 2000x2000 offset by 1000x1000 but the map stops like 500x500 short of those edges somewhere, it'll just render whatever it can get within that region |
| 01:20 |
Piggybear87 |
Hmm, because I was setting up a town at 2000,x,0 and it's not showing up. |
| 01:20 |
VanessaE |
try leaving off the --geometry and its argument entirely, see how big of an image it generates |
| 01:20 |
Piggybear87 |
OK. |
| 01:22 |
Piggybear87 |
Ah, Ok. Now I see it! |
| 01:22 |
* VanessaE |
tries the --drawalpha argument... |
| 01:26 |
Piggybear87 |
That mapper is at least 10X faster that the Python one. |
| 01:26 |
VanessaE |
close to 50x faster in some cases. |
| 01:27 |
Piggybear87 |
That's why I thought it wasn't building the map. And because I was looking in the wrong place... |
| 01:27 |
Exio4 |
lol |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 01:29 |
Exio4 |
nice one |
| 01:29 |
Exio4 |
the mapper is so fast it feels it does nothing! |
| 01:29 |
Piggybear87 |
Lol, yes. :) |
| 01:30 |
Piggybear87 |
Here's the start of my spawn. :) Very very W.I.P. http://tinypic.com/r/14bkode/8 |
| 01:30 |
VanessaE |
looks good |
| 01:31 |
ShadowNinja |
celeron55: It isn't documented, the docs still mention the minetest namespace. But it's hard to hide it. I'd have to do something like "local core = debug.getregistry().core" everywhere and use the registry instead of the global table, but that's very ugly. |
| 01:32 |
ShadowNinja |
Or "local core = core" in all builtin files and "core = nil" at the end. |
| 01:32 |
ShadowNinja |
Wait, no. |
| 01:32 |
ShadowNinja |
The C++ API looks for the table at runtime. |
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| 02:50 |
Megaf |
VanessaE; [100%] Built target minetestserver |
| 02:50 |
Megaf |
real3m55.989s |
| 02:50 |
Megaf |
That's on my ODroid |
| 02:50 |
Megaf |
not so slow uh? |
| 02:50 |
* VanessaE |
shrugs |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
it's okay I guess |
| 02:50 |
Megaf |
3 times slower than my 3,2 GHz four core AMD Phenom II |
| 02:51 |
Megaf |
actually, almost 4 times |
| 02:51 |
Megaf |
but still ok |
| 02:52 |
Megaf |
it uses 25 times less energy |
| 02:53 |
Megaf |
the whole board uses 25 less energy than the x86_64 CPU alone |
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| 03:07 |
Megaf |
VanessaE; right now I get max_lag=0.72 on minetest server running on my ODroid |
| 03:07 |
Megaf |
now, I don't know if is because of some sapier did or because I updated the kernel and tools or both |
| 03:08 |
VanessaE |
it's possibly a combination of things you both did |
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* sfan5 |
pokes VanessaE |
| 05:37 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: I was having an issue with the "alpha" mode in the mapper, but I seem to recall now that you and .....I forget who else.... already discussed this issue. |
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| 05:38 |
VanessaE |
what should be a smooth-ish gradient down the slope of a lake bed is spiky. instead of 0, -1, -2, -3, -4m... I see e.g. 0, -1, +1, -3, ... |
| 05:38 |
sfan5 |
the whole alpha thing is a mess |
| 05:39 |
sfan5 |
there are also other bugs |
| 05:39 |
VanessaE |
it's too bad, too, because it actually looks kick-ass when it works right |
| 05:39 |
sfan5 |
I _may_ take a look at it after my last exam |
| 05:39 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 05:41 |
VanessaE |
meanwhile: |
| 05:41 |
VanessaE |
the mapper is insanely fast with leveldb. |
| 05:42 |
VanessaE |
to the tune of at least 2x the speed of sqlite for the same map data. |
| 05:42 |
VanessaE |
probably more, hard to tell as I also run the images through pngcrush after they're generated. |
| 05:43 |
sfan5 |
you can thank ShadowNinja for that |
| 05:44 |
VanessaE |
thanks ShadowNinja ;) |
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| 06:04 |
RealBadAngel |
hi |
| 06:05 |
RealBadAngel |
sfan5, i was thnikin about issue with water |
| 06:06 |
RealBadAngel |
could you try my branch, unite, and see if you can reproduce that issue with it? |
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celeron55 |
ShadowNinja: if it cannot be hidden (i don't believe that), then it should be documented by saying that it exists, is not recommended at the moment and is just an alias for "minetest" |
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RealBadAngel |
celeron55, good news (i think) soonish i will be able to contribute waaay more |
| 07:04 |
RealBadAngel |
ofc if you dont mind ;) |
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ShadowNinja |
celeron55: It CAN be hidden, but using the registry, which is very ugly. I'll add that note to the API docs. |
| 15:46 |
celeron55 |
did you get anywhere with the thing that would warn about accessing unknown global variables? |
| 15:55 |
ShadowNinja |
celeron55: Yes, I finished it but didn't commit it, and I should have it stashed somewhere... |
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ShadowNinja |
Hmmm, not stashed. I remember pasting diffs here though... |
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celeron55 |
you should probably publish it in some form and get some comments |
| 16:00 |
celeron55 |
altough, in the past days core development discussion seems to be quite inexistent here |
| 16:01 |
ShadowNinja |
Ah, I did commit it in a separate branch. |
| 16:01 |
ShadowNinja |
I'll make a PR. |
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| 16:01 |
ShadowNinja |
celeron55: How's this? http://sprunge.us/RdEc?diff |
| 16:08 |
ShadowNinja |
Here's the strict code, it needs loads of rebasing though: http://sprunge.us/YbTZ?diff |
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BlockMen |
comments on #1352 ? |
| 16:52 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1352 -- Codestyle cleanup (mods.cpp, mapgen_math.cpp) by BlockMen |
| 16:55 |
kaeza |
s/if(/if (/ ? |
| 16:56 |
BlockMen |
kaeza, yes |
| 16:56 |
BlockMen |
and other things ;) |
| 16:57 |
kaeza |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1352/files#diff-83a82fb358181561e37ea431c4dc8420R186 |
| 16:58 |
BlockMen |
oh |
| 16:58 |
kaeza |
also 224, and 233 |
| 16:59 |
BlockMen |
yes, just using search function now ;) |
| 17:00 |
kaeza |
not sure about this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1352/files#diff-516797c75a56873a5d67ac35f5bbef2dR107 |
| 17:01 |
kaeza |
(and in other places too) |
| 17:01 |
ShadowNinja |
^ That's wrong. |
| 17:02 |
ShadowNinja |
The expression should be double-indented, not the code. |
| 17:02 |
kaeza |
the rest seems ok |
| 17:02 |
ShadowNinja |
That way you have a lot less indentation, without making things less clear. |
| 17:05 |
kaeza |
ShadowNinja, will you be merging the "strict" patch soon? |
| 17:12 |
BlockMen |
ShadowNinja, "you'll find it a lot easier to see how the indentation works if you have large indentations." -> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/CodingStyle |
| 17:13 |
RealBadAngel |
what about #1330 ? |
| 17:13 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1330 -- Allow dropping single items from stack while holding sneak key. by RealBadAngel |
| 17:14 |
RealBadAngel |
it looks like the very same thing was coded for 3 times already... |
| 17:15 |
BlockMen |
IMO we should merge #542 then |
| 17:15 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/542 -- New feature: drop a item instead a stack while... by Lord89James |
| 17:16 |
RealBadAngel |
code is almost the same, so doesnt really matter which one |
| 17:16 |
BlockMen |
RealBadAngel, it does. Ppl want contribute, let them |
| 17:16 |
RealBadAngel |
i just said it doesnt have to be mine pull |
| 17:17 |
BlockMen |
no, you said it doesnt matter. and i said it does ;) |
| 17:17 |
RealBadAngel |
ok ok, he was the first one with the idea |
| 17:18 |
RealBadAngel |
btw, about comments on possible dropping whole stack instead of one item, or being it hacky |
| 17:19 |
RealBadAngel |
it uses the very same mechanism as player movement |
| 17:19 |
RealBadAngel |
i mean reading the keys |
| 17:19 |
RealBadAngel |
and folks do not complain bout it |
| 17:19 |
BlockMen |
you mean animations? |
| 17:19 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
| 17:20 |
RealBadAngel |
i did that code for mirceakitsune |
| 17:20 |
RealBadAngel |
so if it works for animations, it will work for such an easy thing |
| 17:21 |
BlockMen |
actually the animations are hacky :P |
| 17:21 |
RealBadAngel |
a bit, yes |
| 17:22 |
BlockMen |
concerning the items, idk. i would like to hear other opinions on that |
| 17:22 |
RealBadAngel |
its just a small feature, nothing big, but useful |
| 17:23 |
BlockMen |
but idc that much about |
| 17:23 |
BlockMen |
if someone else agrees on it im fine with |
| 17:23 |
RealBadAngel |
ShadowNinja, how about you? |
| 17:25 |
RealBadAngel |
btw, i was trying lately to hook into player's inventory (main) callbacks |
| 17:26 |
RealBadAngel |
i mean same way as for detached ones, or any other |
| 17:26 |
RealBadAngel |
and i cant find a way to do so |
| 17:26 |
RealBadAngel |
does anybody have an idea how to do that? |
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ShadowNinja |
BlockMen: That's referring to using a tab width of 8, right? Not double indenting the wrong sections. |
| 17:37 |
ShadowNinja |
kaeza: Yes, or at least I plan on that. |
| 17:40 |
ShadowNinja |
RealBadAngel: Does that drop one item when clicking outside a formspec and using sneak? |
| 17:40 |
ShadowNinja |
If so, you can right-click for that. |
| 17:41 |
RealBadAngel |
its not related to formspecs |
| 17:41 |
RealBadAngel |
while in formspec you cannot read the keys |
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ShadowNinja |
RealBadAngel: So, 'q' drop? |
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BlockMen |
ShadowNinja, no its reffering ti indentation in general |
| 17:47 |
BlockMen |
*to |
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RealBadAngel |
ShadowNinja, it modifies action for "q" |
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| 18:34 |
ShadowNinja |
BlockMen: Nope. Context: Tabs are 8 characters, and thus indentations are also 8 characters. |
| 18:34 |
ShadowNinja |
There are heretic movements that try to make indentations 4 (or even 2!) |
| 18:34 |
ShadowNinja |
characters deep, and that is akin to trying to define the value of PI to |
| 18:34 |
ShadowNinja |
be 3. |
| 18:34 |
ShadowNinja |
Rationale: The whole idea behind indentation is to clearly define where |
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ShadowNinja |
a block of control starts and ends. Especially when you've been looking |
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ShadowNinja |
at your screen for 20 straight hours, you'll find it a lot easier to see |
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ShadowNinja |
how the indentation works if you have large indentations. |
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ShadowNinja |
Oops, that was supposed to de in two messages. |
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ShadowNinja |
RealBadAngel: Seems O.K. then. As long as "r" is renamed to something more descriptive. |
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BlockMen |
ShadowNinja, those are two paragraphs. and the second is about the general idea of indentation... |
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RealBadAngel |
ShadowNinja, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/542/files |
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ShadowNinja |
BlockMen: No, it isn't. You never use multiple levels of indentation instead of turning up your tab width. If you like I can look for the relevant section in there. |
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ShadowNinja |
BlockMen: The second paragraph starts with "Rationale: ". |
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ShadowNinja |
And that apparently isn't specified. O_O |
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BlockMen |
ShadowNinja, yes, like "reasons for Indentation" |
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BlockMen |
or "why you should use Indentation" |
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ShadowNinja |
LOL, "Why you should use indentation". |
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ShadowNinja |
Knowing that is assumed by all style guieds that I know of. |
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ShadowNinja |
Otherwise uglify.js wouldn't exist, we'd just write minified code. |
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BlockMen |
ShadowNinja, -.- |
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BlockMen |
its a caption |
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celeron55 |
wtf |
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celeron55 |
those "cleanup" changes are just wrong |
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celeron55 |
at least the indentation |
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celeron55 |
in my opinion those files aren't bad to begin with; it's useless to religiously format them |
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celeron55 |
but i'm not going to go against it assuming they're made to use the actual official style |
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celeron55 |
which they don't do now |
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