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| 00:02 |
Exio4 |
there will be a 0.4.9 in xmas |
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sapier |
did anyone ever try this one? minetest.hash_node_position????? |
| 00:13 |
ShadowNinja |
emptty: That's been around for a long time(Pre-0.4.3?), but usually it doesn't flash. |
| 00:14 |
emptty |
Exio4: cool! that's a good news |
| 00:15 |
emptty |
ShadowNinja: well, it was playable with 0.4.7, but it becomes rather difficult with the latest stable |
| 00:15 |
emptty |
(it was playable, even if it blinked from time to time, like when switching between "burning" and "not burning") |
| 00:25 |
sapier |
sadly hash_node_position is really a "hash" and not a 48 bit value |
| 00:30 |
emptty |
woot, it works perfectly with those three patches |
| 00:30 |
emptty |
thanks guys |
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ShadowNinja |
sapier: return (pos.z+32768)*65536*65536 + (pos.y+32768)*65536 + pos.x+32768 |
| 00:41 |
ShadowNinja |
sapier: Looks like a number to me... |
| 00:41 |
sapier |
if you do it backwards you see loss of z coordinate |
| 00:43 |
sapier |
funny thing is it's that symetric it can even be fixed |
| 00:47 |
sapier |
ok I don't understand whyt this code works https://gist.github.com/sapier/7865813 |
| 00:48 |
sapier |
ohhhh |
| 00:49 |
sapier |
guess I should've copied it to gist previously :-) |
| 01:03 |
iqualfragile |
sapier: what exactly do you not understand about it? |
| 01:05 |
sapier |
I didn't see the typo in 65535 ;-) |
| 01:06 |
iqualfragile |
k |
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leo_rockway |
greetings, y'all. |
| 01:14 |
leo_rockway |
the last few days I've been getting segfaults with latest builds. |
| 01:14 |
leo_rockway |
I just figured out it can be reliable reproduced with the indev map generator |
| 01:15 |
leo_rockway |
I start minetest, create a new map using indev and when I try to run it it segfaults. |
| 01:16 |
kaeza |
^ confirmed |
| 01:20 |
leo_rockway |
kaeza: ^ unconfirmed now? >.< |
| 01:20 |
kaeza |
wait... |
| 01:23 |
kaeza |
what is the point of the mapgen combo on the map settings if it's only applied when you actually enter the map (i.e. not after creating it) ? |
| 01:23 |
kaeza |
anyway, seems to crash reliably on indev |
| 01:24 |
leo_rockway |
alright |
| 01:24 |
kaeza |
for now, this is the gdb bt (release build): http://pastebin.com/pcWUJagb I'll build a debug version |
| 01:25 |
VanessaE |
I thought we weren't supposed to use release builds for now? |
| 01:26 |
VanessaE |
was that already fixed? |
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kaeza |
http://pastebin.com/ma3kGpHt |
| 01:46 |
daswort |
i get this error over and over again. looks a bit messy. https://dpaste.de/5LWx |
| 01:46 |
daswort |
why does MT write that error thousand times in the output even when there is not interaction with the menu? |
| 01:50 |
sapier |
yes VanessaE |
| 01:50 |
sapier |
got fixed following day |
| 01:50 |
VanessaE |
oh ok. |
| 01:51 |
VanessaE |
as always I'm a day late and a dollar short :P |
| 01:51 |
sapier |
indev is not recommended for production use |
| 01:51 |
VanessaE |
looks like it's not recommeded for *any* use at the moment :) |
| 01:51 |
sapier |
but be aware release builds usually are more crashy then debug builds |
| 01:52 |
sapier |
master is quite buggy atm ... guess we need to stop adding experimental things if we want to release until christmas |
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sapier |
a green tree ... I still don't have a christmas tree ... <<< fetching saw >>> |
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VanessaE |
ha! |
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hmmmm |
I see the problem with proller's mapgen |
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hmmmm |
he feels that he doesn't need to set ndef inside of his cave's ctor override |
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RealBadAngel |
nore's patch broke shaders on some GPUs, heres the fix (and some optimization, thx to nore's idea) |
| 08:13 |
RealBadAngel |
https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest/commit/39497c05b3ddebaec1783a16b6cec612d4b66ff7 |
| 08:13 |
RealBadAngel |
any objections? |
| 08:14 |
RealBadAngel |
btw patch is already tested by me, nore and VanessaE |
| 08:15 |
VanessaE |
works fine for me, no regressions that I could find after significant testing. |
| 08:15 |
nore |
I'm ok for it... |
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specing |
man it would be great if minetest actually remembered passwords |
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VanessaE |
G*d yes |
| 09:18 |
specing |
It would be much more great if it wre using pubkey auth! |
| 09:18 |
specing |
(quake style key) |
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specing |
I think boats are actually slower than jsut swimming |
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sapier |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1030 come on guys that one is sitting around for days now fully tested lacking ANY comment of a core dev |
| 16:54 |
sapier |
same for this one https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1027 |
| 16:54 |
sapier |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1036 and of course that one too ... john_minetest did quite a lot of testing for those |
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thexyz |
I think that for #1027 we should have a one hardcoded (client-side setting) CDN server which the client will always use before attempting any others |
| 16:55 |
thexyz |
this will improve player experience on servers that don't have remote media set up |
| 16:56 |
sapier |
interesting idea but wouldn't that put a lot of load to that server? |
| 16:57 |
thexyz |
for now we have minetest-cdn.net which is cloudflare'd |
| 16:57 |
thexyz |
and i set it up so that media requests are served by cloudflare |
| 16:57 |
sapier |
what about making server to tell client where to look for data? this way it's responsibility of server owner |
| 16:58 |
thexyz |
and the server itself only sets a redirect |
| 16:58 |
thexyz |
it's already this way, isn't it? |
| 16:58 |
thexyz |
the problem is that on old servers no one is going to care about this |
| 16:58 |
thexyz |
and having a "default" cdn server just works |
| 16:58 |
sapier |
thought it's always fetched from server |
| 16:59 |
thexyz |
what do you mean? |
| 16:59 |
sapier |
yes but how is client supposed to know textures on cdn are same server has? |
| 16:59 |
sapier |
e.g. if at server default textures are replaced |
| 17:00 |
thexyz |
did you even read this pull you're suggesting to merge? |
| 17:00 |
thexyz |
it uses sha hashes now instead of texture names |
| 17:00 |
thexyz |
and verifies them of course |
| 17:01 |
sapier |
I know so if server replaced the textures you do a useless lookup at cdn |
| 17:02 |
sapier |
I read it quite some time agon ... it's sitting around for months now ... can't tell I know any singel detail about it |
| 17:10 |
thexyz |
sapier: what do you mean "replaced the textures"? |
| 17:10 |
thexyz |
it works this way: client gets list of hashes from server, POSTs them to the CDN server, gets list of hashes of textures the CDN server has and requests them from the CDN server |
| 17:11 |
thexyz |
then with remaining textures/those that it failed to fetch it switches to the next CDN server |
| 17:11 |
thexyz |
and in the end just ask server to send them the usual way |
| 17:15 |
sapier |
this way EVERYTHING is checked by cdn server even if gameserver already KNOWS cdn server can't have the texture |
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thexyz |
gameserver doesn't know anything about cdn |
| 17:16 |
sapier |
and btw I have a very very bad feeling about minetest calling 100 servers once it's started without user knowing anything about it |
| 17:16 |
thexyz |
it doesn't call 100 servers either |
| 17:16 |
thexyz |
everything is checked, yes, but that's not the problem |
| 17:16 |
BlockMen |
a simple question. does another one need to agree for a typo fix in lua-api, or is it fine just to push |
| 17:17 |
thexyz |
(hint: calculate size of the hash we're using, multiply by average number of textures and compare to some texture .png) |
| 17:17 |
sapier |
every 2 months another server is added to be autochecked |
| 17:17 |
sapier |
serverlist |
| 17:17 |
thexyz |
what? |
| 17:17 |
sapier |
modlist |
| 17:17 |
sapier |
cdn server |
| 17:17 |
thexyz |
as you wish.. |
| 17:17 |
sapier |
what's going to be next? nsa "I'm now playing minetest" server |
| 17:17 |
thexyz |
I just felt that it'll improve player's game experience greatly |
| 17:17 |
thexyz |
no more lags even when playing on old servers which aren't going to be updated |
| 17:18 |
thexyz |
(when receiving media, that is) |
| 17:18 |
sapier |
it may help yes but I don't like it to be default |
| 17:18 |
thexyz |
whatever |
| 17:18 |
thexyz |
you should ask kahrl if his branch is merge-ready though |
| 17:18 |
sapier |
if it's disabled by default and you have to enable it in settings it's fine |
| 17:19 |
thexyz |
no it's not |
| 17:19 |
thexyz |
because no one will do this and those who won't do this (read: everyone) will complain about media transfer being very slow |
| 17:19 |
sapier |
it is as it's an active decision of user so he's aware of it |
| 17:19 |
thexyz |
and no one ever will complain about requests being made to some public cdn server |
| 17:20 |
sapier |
usually if commercial software does callbacks to servers I don't know I instantly block access to those servers |
| 17:21 |
sapier |
noone complains about nsa catching all data ... because most people can't imagine what amount of data is collected |
| 17:21 |
thexyz |
now that's some shitposting |
| 17:22 |
thexyz |
so I guess this conversation is pointless |
| 17:22 |
thexyz |
just ask kahrl if his branch is ready and if it is then just throw it in |
| 17:22 |
sapier |
no it isn't user does connect to a server whos ip or name he entered |
| 17:22 |
sapier |
usually I don't expect a application to call other servers too |
| 17:22 |
thexyz |
this won't lead us anywhere |
| 17:22 |
thexyz |
and I'm not in the mood to argue about it; I'll just fix it in the fork |
| 17:23 |
sapier |
quite obvious ... guess we need to agree that we don't have same opinion only |
| 17:23 |
thexyz |
indeed |
| 17:23 |
celeron55 |
thexyz: you shouldn't argue about it endlessly with a single other core dev; it's pointless |
| 17:23 |
thexyz |
I know |
| 17:23 |
thexyz |
rather than that, I shouldn't argue |
| 17:24 |
sapier |
how much forks are out there right now? |
| 17:24 |
thexyz |
oh |
| 17:24 |
thexyz |
I thought about creating a "minetest family tree" or something like that |
| 17:24 |
celeron55 |
i don't have much against using minetest-cdn.net as the default; but i know some people will hate it |
| 17:24 |
thexyz |
but I don't know minetest history enough |
| 17:24 |
thexyz |
I know about minetest-classic, freeminer; all others seem to be dead |
| 17:25 |
celeron55 |
there are one or two (or three?) forks by jachoo |
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thexyz |
aren't those dead? |
| 17:25 |
sapier |
if people do forks to get features instead of creating a game I guess we're doing something wrong |
| 17:25 |
celeron55 |
yes, but they would be interesting to have there |
| 17:25 |
thexyz |
sapier: or maybe right? |
| 17:25 |
thexyz |
who knows |
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celeron55 |
sapier: the only thing it means is that people have different opinions |
| 17:26 |
sapier |
maybe but our intention was to create a engine as flexible as possible ... imho that means forkin wouldn't be necessary |
| 17:26 |
celeron55 |
anyway, i also once made a fork of 0.4 for a paid project where some guy wanted to explore and dig around in his custom-generated voxel worlds 8) |
| 17:27 |
celeron55 |
and then bought a laptop with that money |
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sapier |
I'd not call this a "real fork" :-) but yes as of git naming it is |
| 17:28 |
celeron55 |
i consider dead forks very important |
| 17:28 |
celeron55 |
there's always a lot to learn from in them |
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celeron55 |
because they always become to exist for a reason |
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specing |
/data/specing/programs/minetest/minetest/src/inventory.cpp:624: ItemStack& InventoryList::getItem(irr::u32): Assertion 'i < m_size' failed. |
| 20:29 |
specing |
In thread 7f444d5867c0: |
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sapier |
what did you do? |
| 20:30 |
sapier |
what mt version? |
| 20:30 |
specing |
http://bpaste.net/show/LcHYEROz2Uy5tc7AE7C7/ |
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specing |
sapier: right click a craft guide |
| 20:30 |
specing |
4.8.0-dev (updated saturday?) |
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PilzAdam |
whats the server version? |
| 20:31 |
specing |
whatever clip's public server is running |
| 20:31 |
VanessaE |
0.4.8-dev |
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specing |
http://bpaste.net/show/o77onbC1u0Gj5zG7isMW/ |
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specing |
full session |
| 20:32 |
specing |
I clicked a craft guide near spawn |
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PilzAdam |
does it only happen for this single craftguide? |
| 20:34 |
specing |
I think it is pretty reproducable |
| 20:34 |
specing |
I got atleast 5 crashes on saturday |
| 20:34 |
specing |
not sure if only this one |
| 20:35 |
sapier |
seems we still miss a case of invaid data passed to scriptapi |
| 20:35 |
PilzAdam |
yea, I guess its a mod that messes it up |
| 20:35 |
sapier |
still we shouldn't crash that way |
| 20:36 |
sapier |
specing can you try to find out what is required to reproduce it? or maybe run within gdb? |
| 20:37 |
PilzAdam |
whats the server's IP? |
| 20:41 |
specing |
sapier: click on that craft guide :/ |
| 20:41 |
specing |
jsut crashed again |
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PilzAdam |
sapier, https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/7880453 |
| 20:41 |
specing |
yes, I saw PilzAdam crash :D |
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Exio4 |
>optimized out |
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sapier |
argh ... no idea why inventorylist believes to have to hande a size different from the one in its internal vector |
| 20:46 |
sapier |
ok inventory list is a little bit more complex to understand what's going on in 30 seconds |
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PilzAdam |
specing, how does the craftguide formspec look when it doesnt crash? |
| 20:48 |
PilzAdam |
or better, where is the mod sourcecode? |
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sapier |
InventoryList uses inconsistent size that's not a mod error |
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sapier |
inventory.cpp L592 returns size of vector direct |
| 20:53 |
sapier |
while assertion L618 and L624 is against m_size |
| 20:53 |
sapier |
and for delete m_items.size() is used again |
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specing |
PilzAdam: it looks like a crafting guide and idk where the source is |
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PilzAdam |
sapier, and where do they get out of sync? |
| 20:57 |
PilzAdam |
also changing m_size to m_items.size() in the assert() doesnt fix the crash |
| 20:57 |
sapier |
that'S what I haven't figured out but obviously they do |
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VanessaE |
guys, speaking of crashes, how long are you going to let the chat crash that nearly everyone gets bit by persist before investigating and fixing it? |
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specing |
Can someone implement quake-like client-server auth? |
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PilzAdam |
sapier, if(item_i >= (s32) ilist->getSize() || item_i < 0) guiFormspecMenu.cpp:1728 fixes it |
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sapier1 |
great so you do the right check and don't SEE the error any longer |
| 21:07 |
sapier1 |
l_inventory.cpp checks for m_size while the called getItem() checks against vectorsize .... meaning in this special case m_size and actual vector size have to be out of sync |
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PilzAdam |
<PilzAdam> also changing m_size to m_items.size() in the assert() doesnt fix the crash |
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PilzAdam |
seems like the index is just negative |
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sapier1 |
yes changing return m_size to return m_items.size() will fix the issue too |
| 21:09 |
sapier1 |
if I'm correct and really l_get_stack is called then index can't be negative |
| 21:09 |
sapier1 |
ok let's double check that assumption first |
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sapier1 |
I'd have to put a breakpoint there but according to eclipse search that's the only location at all where getItem is called |
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sapier |
(22:01:49) PilzAdam: also changing m_size to m_items.size() in the assert() doesnt fix the crash ooops ... where does that getItems() call originate from? |
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PilzAdam |
https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/7880453 |
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sapier |
590 lines of backtrace ;-/ |
| 21:29 |
PilzAdam |
well, 530 of it are the_game + main() |
| 21:29 |
sapier |
ok I've been completely wrong ... sorry |
| 21:33 |
PilzAdam |
hah |
| 21:33 |
PilzAdam |
list[context;space;0,0;10,1;-2] causes the crash |
| 21:33 |
PilzAdam |
i.e. a negative starting index |
| 21:33 |
sapier |
already admited I was wrong ;-) |
| 21:34 |
sapier |
but that size handling should be cleaned too |
| 21:34 |
PilzAdam |
now where is the list formspec parsed? |
| 21:34 |
sapier |
GuiFormSpecMenu.cpp |
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Megaf |
Folks, could you please fix this fucking annoying bug? This stinking shit keeps crashing when ones TRIES to send a not small chat message ~10 words |
| 21:36 |
Megaf |
http://paste.debian.net/70051/ |
| 21:36 |
Megaf |
I'm totally fed up with this shit |
| 21:36 |
sapier |
any idea how to reproduce it? |
| 21:37 |
Megaf |
download whatever new build you want, stable or master branch |
| 21:37 |
Megaf |
compile it whatever you want too |
| 21:37 |
sapier |
doesn't relieably crash for me everytime I trie to get it it's rocksolid |
| 21:37 |
Megaf |
join to whatever server, and write whatever you want with + 10 words |
| 21:37 |
sapier |
but I've seen those crashes too ... just everytime when I don't use a debugger |
| 21:38 |
PilzAdam |
sapier, https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/7881433 ? |
| 21:38 |
Megaf |
it will crash as soon as you hit enter and it wont send any message |
| 21:38 |
sapier |
ok push it |
| 21:38 |
Megaf |
also this bug is ~3 weeks old |
| 21:39 |
Megaf |
perhaps it happens only in my server anyhow |
| 21:40 |
Megaf |
its megaf.co.vu port 30003 |
| 21:43 |
PilzAdam |
specing, its fixed now, get the latest client |
| 21:44 |
PilzAdam |
oh, and whoever wrote the craft guide mod needs to fix it |
| 21:46 |
sapier |
ok megaf I stop annoying your users doesn't seem to depend on your server |
| 21:47 |
Megaf |
Ok, thanks |
| 21:47 |
Megaf |
glad that it's not an issue with my server |
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