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hmmmm |
hmmm |
| 05:37 |
hmmmm |
how do i use treegen's copy of make_tree() when now it takes a specific seed, screwing up backwards compatibility |
| 05:40 |
hmmmm |
i need to make a way to get myrand's next and pseudorandom's next. |
| 05:50 |
hmmmm |
i need a way to return the seed of PseudoRandom used in make_tree()... this is tough |
| 05:52 |
hmmmm |
going to need to modify make_tree to take a PseudoRandom * and just use that. no other way to do this with using disgusting hacks. sorry RBA, your modification had unforseen consequences. |
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RealBadAngel |
that was not my idea to add seeds to trees |
| 06:20 |
RealBadAngel |
i was PilzAdam's |
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RealBadAngel |
*it |
| 06:22 |
hmmmm |
nevermind, i'm just spazzing out. it's fine. i added the seed parameter back. |
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hmmmm |
it's random enough. |
| 06:23 |
hmmmm |
i just can't help but feel like our randomness seriously sucks, both because our LCG sucks and the way previous values are re-used by breaking them off into PseudoRandom objects and throwing away the resulting enthropy |
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PrEAroD21H |
Hi everyone |
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| 17:03 |
rubenwardy |
changelog completed: http://dev.minetest.net/User:Rubenwardy/changelog |
| 17:03 |
rubenwardy |
can I put it into http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog? |
| 17:03 |
rubenwardy |
ping: PilzAdam, Calinou, hmmmm |
| 17:10 |
celeron55 |
the credits seem a bit random at some points |
| 17:12 |
celeron55 |
"Map generation is now slightly faster and can be tweaked in minetest.conf (celeron55 & RealBadAngel & PilzAdam)" <- i don't think i have had anything to do with this, and most of that is the work of kwolekr |
| 17:13 |
celeron55 |
"Player physics are now tweakable by server admin (celeron55 && kwolekr)" <- nope; the authors are completely wrong, the real author is Taoki |
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RealBadAngel |
who made those texts? |
| 17:14 |
celeron55 |
i guess most are originally by Calinou, a few are by hmmmm and the rest is by rubenwardy |
| 17:15 |
RealBadAngel |
i shouldnt be mentioned in mapgen stuff |
| 17:15 |
rubenwardy |
100% of the text came from previous changlog |
| 17:15 |
rubenwardy |
I just reformated it to be easier to read |
| 17:15 |
rubenwardy |
feel free to change it |
| 17:16 |
RealBadAngel |
put there just hmmm(kwolekr) |
| 17:17 |
rubenwardy |
adjusted |
| 17:17 |
RealBadAngel |
i dont want to be blamed for mapgen being slow ;) |
| 17:17 |
celeron55 |
changed those two that i mentioned |
| 17:39 |
hmmmm |
people still consider mapgen slow |
| 17:39 |
hmmmm |
even though it's like 5000x faster than it was two versions ago |
| 17:41 |
Exio |
everything is slow |
| 17:41 |
Exio |
(for the people) |
| 17:41 |
Exio |
"the world takes more than 2 seconds to load, it is TOO SLOW!!!!!" |
| 17:42 |
hmmmm |
i do agree that it's too slow, but people shouldn't be exactly whining about it |
| 17:44 |
Jordach |
hmmmm, yeah, it's faster than the 0.2.x mapgen |
| 19:16 |
thexyz |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/536 |
| 19:16 |
thexyz |
hmmmm, darkrose, PilzAdam, celeron55 ^ |
| 19:17 |
hmmmm |
oh god @_@ |
| 19:17 |
hmmmm |
i really hope everything there works 100% |
| 19:18 |
darkrose |
this looks like a "merge and pray" commit |
| 19:18 |
hmmmm |
we need to make certain it's not going ot screw things up, but at the same time, we have to merge that asap or else it'll become problematic |
| 19:19 |
Exio |
for something is the git |
| 19:19 |
Exio |
it doesn't mean "super tested and everything working at the 100%"! |
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thexyz |
one more suggestion: remove all #if 0 blocks |
| 19:22 |
hmmmm |
those are mostly in the mapgen |
| 19:22 |
hmmmm |
which is under heavy development at the moment |
| 19:23 |
thexyz |
of course, this commit breaks nothing ^^ |
| 19:23 |
thexyz |
(because it's not merged yet) |
| 19:24 |
hmmmm |
you're absolutely sure you're not inadvertently inserting something that wasn't there by using []? |
| 19:24 |
hmmmm |
that's the #1 mistake really |
| 19:25 |
thexyz |
hm? |
| 19:26 |
thexyz |
any example? |
| 19:27 |
hmmmm |
well i don't mean your code in particular, i'm just saying that modifying a value like somemap[pos] = 5; would insert (pos, 5) if pos wasn't already there without you knowing that it was inserted |
| 19:28 |
thexyz |
doesn't irrlicht's .insert(key, value) work the same? |
| 19:28 |
hmmmm |
*shrug* |
| 19:28 |
hmmmm |
ah i like that you use std::set where appropriate |
| 19:28 |
thexyz |
oh, i see the difference |
| 19:28 |
thexyz |
it doesn't replace node when it already exists |
| 19:29 |
thexyz |
http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/docu/classirr_1_1core_1_1map.html#af9f8f34cab620e3bdc1ae72715ab9d15 |
| 19:29 |
hmmmm |
did you make that mistake at all? |
| 19:29 |
hmmmm |
:p |
| 19:31 |
thexyz |
I don't c++ that much |
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| 19:31 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, throw it in and wait for bug report |
| 19:32 |
hmmmm |
oh dear |
| 19:32 |
PilzAdam |
we cant find the bugs when simply not use the code |
| 19:33 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: can you make a windows build and check if it's working right? |
| 19:33 |
PilzAdam |
sure |
| 19:40 |
PilzAdam |
http://ompldr.org/vaHBxZw/minetest-0.4.5-stl2-win32.zip |
| 19:41 |
PilzAdam |
no problems while compiling and works in wine |
| 19:41 |
thexyz |
great, let's find some windows users now |
| 19:41 |
hmmmm |
i am really excited about the code cleanup that's been going on lately |
| 19:42 |
hmmmm |
things are looking neat, consistent, professional |
| 19:43 |
Jordach |
^^ i doubt it |
| 19:55 |
thexyz |
is everybody fine with me updating menulogo.png (Minetest-c55 → Minetest)? |
| 19:55 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 19:55 |
hmmmm |
yeah |
| 19:55 |
hmmmm |
the whole menulogo stuff is being updated along with the cloud thing anyway |
| 19:56 |
hmmmm |
i wonder if they got the two issues with it ironed out yet or not |
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